Graham Hancock

He knew what he was facing getting into this, but he had, again, the courage and the integrity to stand up, to stand by me in that story. And I'm enormously grateful to him for doing that. And I found along the way, I suspected it when we knew each other just by Zoom and by email.

i found along the way what an incredible gentleman keanu reeves is how kind-hearted he is how humble he is how he turned up for the shoot carrying his own baggage um he he's just a gem of a human being and he he radiates kindness and decency and care and love towards others and i feel privileged to have had the opportunity to get to know him uh and i hope our paths will continue to cross in the future that's awesome

i found along the way what an incredible gentleman keanu reeves is how kind-hearted he is how humble he is how he turned up for the shoot carrying his own baggage um he he's just a gem of a human being and he he radiates kindness and decency and care and love towards others and i feel privileged to have had the opportunity to get to know him uh and i hope our paths will continue to cross in the future that's awesome

i found along the way what an incredible gentleman keanu reeves is how kind-hearted he is how humble he is how he turned up for the shoot carrying his own baggage um he he's just a gem of a human being and he he radiates kindness and decency and care and love towards others and i feel privileged to have had the opportunity to get to know him uh and i hope our paths will continue to cross in the future that's awesome

Above all, I'm grateful to him.

Above all, I'm grateful to him.

Above all, I'm grateful to him.

He's an awesome guy. Everything that people say about Keanu is right. He's a great man.

He's an awesome guy. Everything that people say about Keanu is right. He's a great man.

He's an awesome guy. Everything that people say about Keanu is right. He's a great man.

Thanks, Joe. Thanks for having me back on the show.

Thanks, Joe. Thanks for having me back on the show.

Thanks, Joe. Thanks for having me back on the show.

It would be better to describe it as a foundational sense of puzzlement and incompleteness in the story that we are taught about our past. which envisages more or less, there have been a few ups and downs, but more or less straightforward evolutionary progress. We start out as hunter-foragers, Then we become agriculturalists. The hunter-forager phase could go back hundreds of thousands of years.

I mean, this is where it's also important to mention that anatomically modern humans were not the only humans. We had Neanderthals from, I don't know, 400,000 years ago to about 40,000 years ago. They were certainly human because anatomically modern humans interbred with them and we carry Neanderthal genes. There were the Denisovans, maybe 300,000 to perhaps even as recently as 30,000 years ago.

And again, interbreeding took place. They're obviously a human species. So, you know, we've got this background of humans who didn't look quite like us. And then we have anatomically modern humans. And I think the earliest anatomically modern human skeletal remains are from Gebeler Hood in Morocco. and date to about 310,000 years ago. So the question is, what were our ancestors doing after that?

And I think we can include the Neanderthals and the Denisovans in that general picture. And why did it take so long? This is one of the puzzles, one of the questions that bother me. Why did it take so long when we have creatures who are physically identical to us?

We cannot actually weigh and measure their brains, but from the work that's been done on the crania, it looks like they had the same brains that we do with the same wiring. So if we've been around for 300,000 plus years at least... And if ultimately in our future was the process to create civilization or civilizations, why didn't it happen sooner? Why did it take so long?

Why was it such a long time? Even the story of anatomically modern humans has kept on changing. I remember a time when it was said that there hadn't been anatomically modern humans before 50,000 years ago. And then it became 196,000 years ago with the findings in Ethiopia and then 310,000 years ago. There's a lot of missing pieces in the puzzle there.

But the big question for me in that timeline is why didn't we do it sooner? Why did it take so long? Why do we wait until after 12,000 years ago, really after 10,000 years ago, to start seeing the beginnings, what are selected as the beginnings of civilization in places like Turkey, for example. And then there's a relatively slow process of adopting agriculture.