Graham Platner

And now I'm going to talk about how I don't want to talk about it for the next four hours and I'll never talk about raising taxes on billionaires.

And I think there's an element within the party that actually likes this stuff because it gives them this ability to pretend they hate this, but

But it sucks up all the oxygen, so then you never have to get around to the structural or systemic reforms that we have to make.

I do not back away from things.

I think all the wins we've made for justice and equality, we take no steps back from any of this stuff.

It might be, but we're not winning with that.

I mean, there's that great Chuck Schumer line.

Yeah, I know.

For every working class person we lose out in the countryside, we're going to gain two voters in the suburbs.

Suburb, yeah.

And it didn't happen.

Donald Trump won.

And then he won again.

And we lost a lot of seats around the country.

So clearly that math did not pan out.

I truly think that the only way forward for us as a party is to really become a real party of working people again.

And when you do that-

It doesn't mean you're like also not, I mean, look, when I talk about working people, I literally mean anybody that just makes money from wages, which is everybody.

I mean, I'll just be like, I've had a bunch of folks be like, well, what about the middle class?

I'm like, yeah, man, in this America, the middle class is the working class.