Graham Stephan

But no, I'm sure you both have seen articles about people making two or three hundred grand limit paycheck to paycheck.

It is all over the Silicon Valley.

Well, that's actually really interesting.

You guys did an interview with Caleb Hammer.

You asked him something like, have you seen people be successful at this?

Taking his advice and getting on this track for financial freedom.

And his answer was very spot on, in my opinion.

It's people who have gotten fit or overcome something hard.

Why was that?

I mean, that was the...

most valuable part of that conversation for me, because it is so true.

Getting financially fit is a 10-year journey, and most humans cannot do that for 10 years.

But you know what?

A health journey?

Six months.

You could change your body in six months, right?

So again, I think he's right.

The people that are going to figure out how to get wealthy have done something hard and seen the benefits.

Because if you can't make those connections, why are you going to sacrifice?

So again, I think if you want to get wealthy, get healthy.