Graham Stephan

And they get the card.

They like push the sides down.

They clamp it.

They even can like paint on the card sometimes.

And I think to myself, why do I not invest in a...

PSA 7, PSA 6, and then just wait for the card repair to get involved with AI or whatever it is that takes it to the next level.

Hold onto this card until card repair becomes immaculate and then just get it regraded as a PSA 10 and sell it then.

It's true.

AI is going to get better on both sides.

Yeah, on both sides.

That's what I mean.

And it's also probably great dating as well.

And what I wonder is like, is a PSA, because you said, Graham, it's easier to get a PSA 10 a decade ago than it is today because they've gotten more strict.

So then does it make it more or less valuable to get something that was PSA 10, 10 years ago?

Because it could suggest the card is actually in worse condition, but at the same time, you know, it hasn't been tampered with.

What's the darkest side of the high-end Pokemon market that you've been aware of?

But if you signed a PSA 10 Charizard, you think that would increase the value of that card?

Another thing that came up that I'm really curious and I wanted to ask you about is I saw this video, Graham and I were talking about this before this podcast, where you were unboxing a bass set and you're pulling it out of the side of the box.

And then I read the comments and everyone in the comments are like, holy cow, he's trying to devalue this.

these cards when he's pulling it out and I looked at the video and it does look like transparently it looks like when you're pulling it out you're being rather aggressive like I would not be surprised if something could have happened based off the way you were unboxing it and I'm curious what was like what was the idea behind or lack of idea I guess or what was what do you respond to those that are saying that yeah I got absolutely murdered over that yeah I mean absolutely murdered over that and