Grant Clifton

And then use Wallet Wizard to pay it all off.

Yeah, that's right.

You go to a payday lender and pay 300%.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, it's a shame, unfortunately, in the Western world that, you know, debts become normalised.

You know, it's so easy to go.

You know, we talked about back in the day, you know, my father, we lived in this house and our carpet was worn in front of the couch and I was quite embarrassed to bring friends over because the carpet was all worn.

And the old man said to the old man, are we going to get some new carpet?

And he goes, no, nothing wrong with that.

And that was the mentality of the older ones back in the day, whereas now you'd just go and probably, if you couldn't afford to buy some new carpet, you'd go and put it on high purchase.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah.

So, yeah, just look, I always say, look, you don't need more money, you need less pressure in your life, you know.

And freedom's not about flexing, it's about breathing.

Yeah.

You know, it's.

Yeah.

100%, man.

Yeah.