Grant Clifton

Yeah.

So, yeah, in my 50s now.

yeah yeah so um yeah no it was in the 80s so it was a lot but where where that place is now used to take us two hours to drive there yeah um because there was no motorway so you'd have to go drive through suburbs to go over the harbour bridge in auckland head up up to what an area called fonga paroa and um used to take two hours to get there now you can get there in 30 minutes because it's motorway all the way yeah you know so that's how it's changed and that camp is is um

Just been sold, I've heard, and it's been turned into houses.

It was a great, yeah, growing up as a kid there.

Jumping off the wharf, swimming across the river.

Beautiful spot, yeah.

Well, we were playing rugby at the time.

Yeah.

So I was playing under 18s when it first started.

And the thing is, I think that back then, if you were doing a trade and you were an apprentice, you were earning stuff or money.

Yeah, yeah.

I think they were earning like 90 bucks a week.

Fucking hell.

And I started in the bank and I was getting 200.

Yeah.

So I was the one that was shouting the beers.

Yeah, you were.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.