Grant Harvey

Thanks for having me.

So we have invited Zuzana Stamorowska, CEO of Pathway, one of the boldest challengers to the reigning transformer-based AI paradigm.

And today we dig into what live AI really means, why Pathway is banking on it, and whether this could be the next major architectural leap in AI.

Well, what was the context or how did that happen?

What?

Like it's hard?

So was time the core insight or problem you were trying to solve, the three of you?

And everything is like a relationship to everything else, right?

Yeah, or the movie Memento where he's tattooing it on his arm.

So before we get into what you're doing differently than transformers, based on that thesis or that problem set, let's say, do you think that there's a plateau on the meter chart where only transformer-based language models can only get to like X hours of consistent tasks?

Do you think that there's like, and what hour mark would that be or day mark would that be?

It starts to make sense when you switch the perspective.

All right.

So we have to ask about the name, Baby Dragon Hatchling.

How did you come up with it?

And I have a theory, but I want to hear the actual explanation and I'll tell you my theory.

I love it.

Okay.

Cool.

I have not read that one, actually.