Grant Harvey

interpersonal relationship with them.

Yeah, I think that's one of the best things that could happen from AI adoption anywhere is that we stop spending so much time on our keyboards and looking at screens and we actually spend more time with each other.

And that's my take.

You're right.

Yeah, I know.

I move so fast.

It's like, of course, that'll be done by, you know, three months ago.

But I'd love to get rid of the primary care doctor as the router that you have to go through to go to the specialist you actually need.

Like that is such a dumb, backward system where you have to see someone to tell you to see someone else.

Like, let's just automate all of that and get that over with.

Yeah.

So Ilya, when you published that in 2017, did you and the team anticipate that Transformers would become the foundation of everything today?

And what do you think about where we are now?

Like looking at it from the perspective of 2017 to today, do you think we're in the early innings or are we approaching some kind of inflection point?

What's your take?

We are.

Yeah.

I mean, that begs the question.

I mean, you know, there's a debate about whether or not we're hitting limits on scaling laws.

Personally, I've been tracking the switch to everyone spinning up RL environments for everything now.