Grant Harvey
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That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you want to talk about obfuscation or what?
Ideally, you would want that language to be understandable by humans.
Right.
You also mentioned a monitorability tax where sometimes you might accept slightly worse performance to keep the AI systems more transparent.
Is that something that you I think you're advocating for that, right?
Exactly.
Yeah.
And when would when would paying that tax actually be worth it?
I guess this is a question.
Along the trace.
Yeah, yeah.
That makes sense.
So which one would be more expensive, I guess, with like a smaller model thinking for longer or bigger model thinking for shorter?
Right.
That's tricky.
Right.
I guess it makes me wonder, like if you were to like, let's say like the next scaling paradigm, whatever, whatever the next step up from here is, um, would that model be incredibly hard to, to read its traces?