Greg Casar

But let's get started with, in my view,

taking on the AI lobby on something that makes sense to basically everybody watching at home.

Yeah, yeah.

But let's just talk about the surveillance pricing just for a second because it frankly pisses people off.

We had the other day somebody on Twitter tweet at JetBlue, I'm trying to get to a funeral.

Somebody just died.

And in the last day, the price on this flight has gone up like $250.

Mm-hmm.

And the customer service rep responded from JetBlue saying, clear your cash, clear your cookies.

And this is the thing that people know is going on.

You're getting your private data scooped up.

They run it through AI and they figure out how to set a price for you.

That is the kind of thing that should unite Democrats, but also tons of independent and Republican voters to say, yeah, these folks are using AI to screw us.

For me, being a progressive means at least two things.

One, being willing to unite lots and lots of people, all of the folks that are getting screwed over against the powers that be that are making your life worse, whether that is oppressing you on a civil rights issue or jacking up your costs like we just talked about.

It's about bringing the everyday person that may not have money power, but should have political power together to take them on.

And then second, I think being progressive is essentially a hopeful enterprise.

That you think, I think that the world can be much better, that we don't have to settle for crumbs or settle for the status quo.

How does that differentiate you from what we're seeing in establishment democratic politics today?

Yeah, if we want to talk about AI, which you just asked me a question about AI.