Greg Eghgian

particularly within military circles, particularly military pilots, but also civilian pilots, that there's been disincentives created to report these things because it was seen as a blemish on your record. It was seen as something that indicated that you might not be qualified for promotion down the road.

So they've come out very clearly and made it clear that they need to adopt a new approach to this. And so now the attitudes, at least in those circles, at least what they're saying is they are taking those reports seriously. They're trying to create channels for communicating this information without any stigma attached to it or consequences.

So they've come out very clearly and made it clear that they need to adopt a new approach to this. And so now the attitudes, at least in those circles, at least what they're saying is they are taking those reports seriously. They're trying to create channels for communicating this information without any stigma attached to it or consequences.

So they've come out very clearly and made it clear that they need to adopt a new approach to this. And so now the attitudes, at least in those circles, at least what they're saying is they are taking those reports seriously. They're trying to create channels for communicating this information without any stigma attached to it or consequences.

That said, in the end, intelligence services, and I would also say that civilian scientists, kind of agree on one thing, and that is they will never get the truth about this phenomenon by just relying on eyewitnesses. Eyewitnesses are not enough. They're going to need instruments detecting things.

That said, in the end, intelligence services, and I would also say that civilian scientists, kind of agree on one thing, and that is they will never get the truth about this phenomenon by just relying on eyewitnesses. Eyewitnesses are not enough. They're going to need instruments detecting things.

That said, in the end, intelligence services, and I would also say that civilian scientists, kind of agree on one thing, and that is they will never get the truth about this phenomenon by just relying on eyewitnesses. Eyewitnesses are not enough. They're going to need instruments detecting things.

They're going to need something that's incontrovertible, and that is not eyewitnesses from their standpoint.

They're going to need something that's incontrovertible, and that is not eyewitnesses from their standpoint.

They're going to need something that's incontrovertible, and that is not eyewitnesses from their standpoint.

So on June 24th, 1947, this private pilot by the name of Kenneth Arnold is flying his small plane around Mount Rainier. He's looking for the wreckage of a cargo craft that had crashed around there. There was a reward for anybody who spotted it. And he said that later on that when he was flying around there, he sees these nine, he first described them as pie pan shaped objects.

So on June 24th, 1947, this private pilot by the name of Kenneth Arnold is flying his small plane around Mount Rainier. He's looking for the wreckage of a cargo craft that had crashed around there. There was a reward for anybody who spotted it. And he said that later on that when he was flying around there, he sees these nine, he first described them as pie pan shaped objects.

So on June 24th, 1947, this private pilot by the name of Kenneth Arnold is flying his small plane around Mount Rainier. He's looking for the wreckage of a cargo craft that had crashed around there. There was a reward for anybody who spotted it. And he said that later on that when he was flying around there, he sees these nine, he first described them as pie pan shaped objects.

that were flying in close formation at very high speeds. Hadn't seen anything like it before. He was convinced that these were probably military aircraft, but he thought in any event he needed to report it. He lands, he reports it to media sources, media outlets, newspapers. He reports it to the military. And he gets interviewed.

that were flying in close formation at very high speeds. Hadn't seen anything like it before. He was convinced that these were probably military aircraft, but he thought in any event he needed to report it. He lands, he reports it to media sources, media outlets, newspapers. He reports it to the military. And he gets interviewed.

that were flying in close formation at very high speeds. Hadn't seen anything like it before. He was convinced that these were probably military aircraft, but he thought in any event he needed to report it. He lands, he reports it to media sources, media outlets, newspapers. He reports it to the military. And he gets interviewed.

He gets interviewed, and within just a day or two, he gets reporters who are following up on this. And one of them asks him, how did this thing move? How did they move? How would you describe it? He said, well, they moved like a saucer might if you skipped it across water.

He gets interviewed, and within just a day or two, he gets reporters who are following up on this. And one of them asks him, how did this thing move? How did they move? How would you describe it? He said, well, they moved like a saucer might if you skipped it across water.

He gets interviewed, and within just a day or two, he gets reporters who are following up on this. And one of them asks him, how did this thing move? How did they move? How would you describe it? He said, well, they moved like a saucer might if you skipped it across water.

He did not utter the phrase flying saucer, but a very, very clever journalist who knew a good headline when he heard one said, ah, flying saucer, and it became flying saucer. And we know that this becomes a kind of very ready-made meme out there.