Greg Eisenberg

It's helpful.

Even the little tidbit around for marketing-related projects, I just like to start with the Cloud interface.

The Mac app is interesting.

I mean, for context, eight months ago, you were

barely knew what this stuff was, right?

Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of people who listen to this podcast and it's like their first time setting up Claude Code and they'll set up like a thousand skills, like Claude skills, before building one thing.

And it's like, dude, no, no, no.

you could use things like skills.

You could use, you know, sub agents, you could use Ralph Wiggum, you could use all these like advanced techniques, but to start with, you really just want to figure out, okay, what is it?

What am I, you know, what does my team look like?

Even if it's a team of one, what are the things, what are the jobs to be done?

Yeah.

And how can I use this to create better products, to promote more, to experiment more?

Um,

And then just start making it part of your daily routine and over time you're going to learn, oh, okay, actually I could put a skill over here.

I'm going to do one skill.

And then over time, it doesn't need to be, don't be that person that measure twice cut once.

I'm going to be doing a lot more episodes of the podcast that are in this vein around vibe marketing, basically.

How do you use AI to get more customers?

I'm happy that you set the foundation around, okay, before you even do this sexy vibe marketing stuff, you kind of have to understand the foundation.