Greg Fleming

And the trauma that it must have been inflicting on all our sheep and cows and pigs.

We had a goat and horses.

But I don't know.

I guess it was just back in those days, if you're not aware of something, you don't know any different.

But now we do.

And that's what's changed for me.

Now that I'm aware of it, I can see.

I think we really should change it.

And then probably one more issue, not quite so major, but it is a big one, which is the distress to families, particularly in cities.

There's no regulation around when firecrackers can be used.

There's the potential for halfway legislation.

So rather than going with what we recommended, which is ceasing the sale and use of private fireworks, we could potentially move to restricting the use of fireworks to be, for example, the same four days that you can buy fireworks.

So you could say that at the moment you can buy fireworks, I think, what is it, the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th of November.

We could change the law to say, and those are the only four days that you're actually allowed to let them off.

And then there'd be four days of the year that animal owners and small families would have to...

you know, put up with that kind of noise and the distress that noise causes.

Yeah, potentially.

And that's my concern.

Yeah, I agree with you, absolutely.

And that's why we did have a discussion about that.