Greg Fleming

I'm like, well, maybe we could make restrictions around urban areas, but maybe it could be different in rural areas.

But the problem with that is it's actually a huge amount of feedback we got was from people who live in rural settings.

whose animals, like we've discussed, are the ones who suffer most.

So yeah, it didn't really matter what other...

Alternatives we considered were avenues we looked at.

In the end, the evidence was pretty clear.

There was only one way forward that we thought we could recommend.

And then as to what government thinks about that, well, time will tell.

I think so and hope so and I use my own experience as one so it's taken me 50 plus years to get to this point but I'm here now and yeah I'm optimistic that other people would be too

So it's all done online.

So if they just jump on the New Zealand government website or just Google it or ask your favourite AI and you fill it out there and then follow the process.

Currently there is no minimum number of signatures required.

So currently, and these things are constantly being reviewed like any part of government.

the parliamentary process, it comes up through a yearly review, and that's going on at the moment.

But currently it can be just you, and the topic itself has to be cleared by the clerks of the House, but they will work closely with you to help you get that across the line.

They host it then on the parliamentary site.

There's rules around – it's pretty generous, the scope of what you can host up there –

But there are minimum standards and things that can't be offensive or breach the Bill of Rights, et cetera, of what you're asking for.

And then they host it on the website, on the parliamentary website, usually for two to three months for opening signatures.

But it's up to you when you decide you're going to close it.