Greg Isenberg

No, I mean, it's $20, which is like the price of a cocktail in Miami.

I have a feeling this is going to be a better end result.

Yeah.

I don't think we gave it any like design, like visual design, any, you know, so do you recommend, uh,

for folks to just get the MVP out, play around with it on local host, click some buttons and then update with the visual design from there.

We're not hitting any limits.

You know, we don't have to take out a second mortgages on our... Yeah, there you go.

Yes, it did.

Yeah, so you didn't really give it any specific, it should look like square.com.

No, no.

We'll basically see if codecs, if 5.3 has a little bit of taste.

It's not that different.

It's, I think, can I try something?

I would say, okay, thank you, but this was a minor design refresh.

I'm looking for a major one.

And then I'm going to say, pretend you are Jack Dorsey.

And how would he design this website to be clean, elegant, and full of interesting interactions?

Jack Dorsey, for people who don't know, co-founder of formerly known as Twitter and Square Block now.

He's a design guy.

I don't know, he's the first guy that came to mind or first person that came to mind.