Greg Jackson

At some point you start saying, should we open up a debate

that involves the demand side as well as the supply side.

1.6 million households signed up.

All we had to do was text them saying, tonight, earn a little bit of money by shifting your demand by an hour.

What we got was

equivalent of turning off all of the electricity in two major cities.

We signed deals in eight of the biggest house builders in the UK to build homes where there will never be an energy bill.

We shouldn't try to convince people this.

We should be able to show it because it's available right now, right here.

I mean, look, first of all, we should be clear that we don't know yet.

Looking into major events like this, which have usually got multiple causes, takes time.

And we have to let the orderly process of investigation go on.

There was a major blackout that affected a very large region of the UK, including some of the southeast or most populous regions in 2019.

Investigations of that, and it was a less serious event than it's been in Portugal, took many, many weeks.

And facts are still emerging down the road.

So let's be really clear about that.

But I think we can draw a few generic lessons.

And there have been kind of comparable ones.

I mentioned one in the UK.

We, I think in 2000, was it 2016?