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Greg Jackson

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

And the last bit, I think, is a lack of digitization.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

And I think it's shocking around the world how undigital grids are.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

We put smart meters in people's homes, but most major substations, components of the grid, are not metered in real time.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

There's not much telemetry.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

And then we rely upon manual control rooms.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

rather than automated systems to balance a grid.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

So around the world, the frequency of the grid, it was served for many purposes.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

It was an artifact, a product of the fact, you know, we had these big spinning generators.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

Now, part of the physics is when there's a very high load on a grid, the rotational speed of those generators slows down.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

And that's a signal that you need to put more generators on the system, right?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

So essentially... You're sort of bleeding energy, the inertial energy off to kind of keep the grid running.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

Basically, it's the physics is when you've got a high load on a generator, then that high load, it essentially acts as magnetism and stuff, right?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

But acts as drag on the speed.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

Right.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

When you see your generators slowing down, well, when you see the grid frequency dropping, you know you need to put more electricity onto the grid to reduce the load per generator, right?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

Essentially.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

So that was the feedback loop you could literally use to control the grid in the old days.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

Yeah, I think it's complicated, right?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

The simple thing is, if you keep an eye on frequency in a traditional grid, you know whether you've got excess load or indeed insufficient load, right?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
What does Spain’s blackout mean for the future of clean energy?

Right.