Greg Jenner

It is. It's greedy. And what about his childhood?

So there's an element of him telling his own history that he wants people to know. Oh, very much so, yes. Fair enough. But in 1492, do you know what happened in 1492, Jen? Oh my gosh, don't ask me.

So there's an element of him telling his own history that he wants people to know. Oh, very much so, yes. Fair enough. But in 1492, do you know what happened in 1492, Jen? Oh my gosh, don't ask me.

He is.

He is.

Yeah, well, more broadly in history, what do you think is happening in terms of Spanish history or global history in 1492? Some kind of war. I mean, there are a lot of wars, but it's Columbus.

Yeah, well, more broadly in history, what do you think is happening in terms of Spanish history or global history in 1492? Some kind of war. I mean, there are a lot of wars, but it's Columbus.

Hernán Cortés is seven years old. Columbus sails on behalf of the Spanish king and queen in search of India and bumps into what's called the New World, inverted commas. It's obviously not new to the people who live there. So what makes Hernan Cortes decide he wants to follow in Columbus's wake? Because soon after, like 10, 12 years later, he's on a ship.

Hernán Cortés is seven years old. Columbus sails on behalf of the Spanish king and queen in search of India and bumps into what's called the New World, inverted commas. It's obviously not new to the people who live there. So what makes Hernan Cortes decide he wants to follow in Columbus's wake? Because soon after, like 10, 12 years later, he's on a ship.

We should probably turn to Melintzin. In 1504, Cortes is 19 years old. Melintzin is...

We should probably turn to Melintzin. In 1504, Cortes is 19 years old. Melintzin is...

And we don't even know her real name, right? We know her by a later...

And we don't even know her real name, right? We know her by a later...

Oh, OK. So you say she was kidnapped, sold into slavery by the Maya, who were different people entirely from the Aztecs, who were different people entirely from the Nahuatl.

Oh, OK. So you say she was kidnapped, sold into slavery by the Maya, who were different people entirely from the Aztecs, who were different people entirely from the Nahuatl.

So we...

So we...

Gotcha.

Gotcha.

And you've mentioned the Aztecs. In our heads, I guess over here in the UK, we know the Aztecs as like the dominant superpower of the region.