Greg Jenner

Question nine. What was notable about Sojourner Truth's appearance and physicality?

Because she did all the work.

Because she did all the work.

And question 10. This for a perfect 10. So Jenna Truth met three U.S. presidents. Can you name two of them?

And question 10. This for a perfect 10. So Jenna Truth met three U.S. presidents. Can you name two of them?

Perfect. Well done. Desiree Birch, never in doubt, 10 out of 10. Well done.

Perfect. Well done. Desiree Birch, never in doubt, 10 out of 10. Well done.

Listener, if you want more from Desiree and Michelle, check out our episodes on Harriet Tubman and Josephine Baker, both extraordinary women. And for more abolitionist history, why not listen to our episode on Frederick Douglass, who was a very important and interesting man.

Listener, if you want more from Desiree and Michelle, check out our episodes on Harriet Tubman and Josephine Baker, both extraordinary women. And for more abolitionist history, why not listen to our episode on Frederick Douglass, who was a very important and interesting man.

Exactly that. I'm a big Douglas fan. But yes, I think there was genuine rivalry and respect. I think they're in a relationship with Sojourner Truth. But anyway, listen to that one too. And to you, lovely listener, join me next time as we follow in the footsteps of another forgotten firebrand.

Exactly that. I'm a big Douglas fan. But yes, I think there was genuine rivalry and respect. I think they're in a relationship with Sojourner Truth. But anyway, listen to that one too. And to you, lovely listener, join me next time as we follow in the footsteps of another forgotten firebrand.

But for now, I'm off to go and grow my beard, cover myself in gold and convince my neighbours that I am Jesus Christ. Hello. Bye. This episode of You're Dead to Me was researched by Madeleine Bracey. It was written by Madeleine Bracey, Emmy Rose Price Goodfellow, Emma Neguse and me. The audio producer was Steve Hankey and our production coordinator was Ben Hollands.

But for now, I'm off to go and grow my beard, cover myself in gold and convince my neighbours that I am Jesus Christ. Hello. Bye. This episode of You're Dead to Me was researched by Madeleine Bracey. It was written by Madeleine Bracey, Emmy Rose Price Goodfellow, Emma Neguse and me. The audio producer was Steve Hankey and our production coordinator was Ben Hollands.

It was produced by Emmy Rose Price Goodfellow, me and senior producer Emma Neguse and our executive editor was James Cook. You're Dead to Me is a BBC Studios audio production for BBC Radio 4.

It was produced by Emmy Rose Price Goodfellow, me and senior producer Emma Neguse and our executive editor was James Cook. You're Dead to Me is a BBC Studios audio production for BBC Radio 4.

Hello and welcome to You're Dead to Me, the Radio 4 comedy podcast that takes history seriously. My name is Greg Jenner. I am a public historian, author and broadcaster. And today we are grabbing our crowns and galloping back to the 16th century to learn all about the famous French queen Catherine de' Medici. And to help us, we have two very special guests.

Hello and welcome to You're Dead to Me, the Radio 4 comedy podcast that takes history seriously. My name is Greg Jenner. I am a public historian, author and broadcaster. And today we are grabbing our crowns and galloping back to the 16th century to learn all about the famous French queen Catherine de' Medici. And to help us, we have two very special guests.

In History Corner, she's Associate Professor in Early Modern History at Northeastern University London. She's an expert on royal and diplomatic studies in 16th and 17th century Europe, especially queenship. And luckily for us, she's also the author of The Incredible Blood, Fire and Gold, the story of Elizabeth I and Catherine de' Medici. It's Dr Estelle Perronc. Welcome, Estelle.

In History Corner, she's Associate Professor in Early Modern History at Northeastern University London. She's an expert on royal and diplomatic studies in 16th and 17th century Europe, especially queenship. And luckily for us, she's also the author of The Incredible Blood, Fire and Gold, the story of Elizabeth I and Catherine de' Medici. It's Dr Estelle Perronc. Welcome, Estelle.

And in Comedy Corner, she's an award-winning comedian and author. You'll have seen her on all the TV, on such shows as Live at the Apollo, Michael McIntyre's Comedy Roadshow, Have I Got News For You. Maybe you've read one of her brilliant books, including her recent exploration of living with ADHD, Scatterbrain.