Greg Jenner
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
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So Catherine was born Katerina, right? So your question, Shappi, about Catherine.
Yes.
Yes.
And then saying, you now need to move into that house.
And then saying, you now need to move into that house.
They're into the second Florentine Republic. He's given this land that he has to go and fight for. He marries the French noble, who is royal.
They're into the second Florentine Republic. He's given this land that he has to go and fight for. He marries the French noble, who is royal.
I'm doing my best, all right? You're telling my mum.
I'm doing my best, all right? You're telling my mum.
No, it's the Pope who sets them up.
No, it's the Pope who sets them up.
So you've got your classic Nepo baby thing. You know, Lorenzo's uncle is the Pope. That's always nice. Very handy. And then you've got the combination of two illustrious houses, the Medici, French royal family... So we can imagine that her childhood, Katerina's childhood, would be... Amazing. Amazing, luxurious, glamorous. Not the case, Estelle.
So you've got your classic Nepo baby thing. You know, Lorenzo's uncle is the Pope. That's always nice. Very handy. And then you've got the combination of two illustrious houses, the Medici, French royal family... So we can imagine that her childhood, Katerina's childhood, would be... Amazing. Amazing, luxurious, glamorous. Not the case, Estelle.
They're not a very robust family, are they? No, no. I mean... It's tragic. It's tragic. And then on the third one, it starts to become almost funny because the third time around, you're like, how many people? I mean, seriously. That's really sad.
They're not a very robust family, are they? No, no. I mean... It's tragic. It's tragic. And then on the third one, it starts to become almost funny because the third time around, you're like, how many people? I mean, seriously. That's really sad.
Her great uncle, isn't it?
Her great uncle, isn't it?
Pope Clement VII.
Pope Clement VII.
Very affordable rates. As a historical consultant. So how do you think the Pope, her uncle, Clement VII, secures her future? She's a young woman. She's 11, 12 years old. What do you think the Pope does to make sure she's got a backup plan?