Greg Jenner
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That brings us to our nuance window.
This is where Sophie and I sit quietly and brainstorm new noble names for ourselves for two minutes.
We need, I think, eight new names each, probably.
While Professor Yang Wen holds court and tells us something that we need to know about Empress Dowager Su Shi.
And my stopwatch is ready.
You have two minutes.
Take it away, Professor Zhong.
Amazing.
Thank you so much.
I mean, really interesting.
I mean, it's a really interesting point, the what if.
I don't usually like what ifs with history because history is chaos and we have to imagine it.
But if she wasn't there, the story of China might have been so radically different.
Yeah.
And she certainly was strong.
I can see why you're on her side, yeah.
I'm not sure I agree with her, the way she went about things.
But, you know, any final thoughts, Sophie, before we do the quiz?
I fully support I would.
I mean, dying in your deathbed still in power is hard as an emperor, isn't it?