Greg Jenner

She rules.

We have to now put this into the context of the time, right? So we have this horrible series of wars that last for 30 years, but they don't initially last for 30 years. They last for one year initially, and then there's a peace treaty.

We have to now put this into the context of the time, right? So we have this horrible series of wars that last for 30 years, but they don't initially last for 30 years. They last for one year initially, and then there's a peace treaty.

Yes. It's expensive. It's terrifying. You can't trust who's on your team. Exactly. You don't want wars ever. But we have a horrible massacre in 1562 at Vassy where the Huguenot worshippers... It's the Guises who are going to kill the Huguenots for worshipping.

Yes. It's expensive. It's terrifying. You can't trust who's on your team. Exactly. You don't want wars ever. But we have a horrible massacre in 1562 at Vassy where the Huguenot worshippers... It's the Guises who are going to kill the Huguenots for worshipping.

It's horrific in France. It's devastating. But also foreign powers get involved. So Philip the King of Spain sends 13,000 soldiers to the Catholic side. Elizabeth of England sends 6,000 men to defend the Huguenot and Prince Condé. The Duke of Guise is then assassinated on Orléans in 1563. There's a peace treaty, the Edict of Amboise. And then that treaty does not last at all.

It's horrific in France. It's devastating. But also foreign powers get involved. So Philip the King of Spain sends 13,000 soldiers to the Catholic side. Elizabeth of England sends 6,000 men to defend the Huguenot and Prince Condé. The Duke of Guise is then assassinated on Orléans in 1563. There's a peace treaty, the Edict of Amboise. And then that treaty does not last at all.

And this war continues until 1598. From 1562 to 1598. So let's just sort of park that there and say, this is the political context in the middle of Catherine's rule is horrifying wars between... And her sons, yeah.

And this war continues until 1598. From 1562 to 1598. So let's just sort of park that there and say, this is the political context in the middle of Catherine's rule is horrifying wars between... And her sons, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. So it's expensive, it's devastating, it's horrific. But let's do something funny because it's a comedy show.

Yeah, yeah. So it's expensive, it's devastating, it's horrific. But let's do something funny because it's a comedy show.

Yeah, really sad.

Yeah, really sad.

Okay, let's try and perk you up. Shappi, what do you think Queen Catherine's flying squadron was like?

Okay, let's try and perk you up. Shappi, what do you think Queen Catherine's flying squadron was like?

Nope.

Nope.

They did have pigeons. So you're thinking what, carrier pigeon?

They did have pigeons. So you're thinking what, carrier pigeon?

It's a good idea.