Greg Jenner

I love him. I've talked about him a lot, but no one knows who he is. Historians know him and no one else.

Das ist die Part of the show where Ed and I sit quietly and sup on our turkey lobster for two minutes. Well, Annie, tell us something we need to know about Alexi's Swaye. My stopwatch is ready. You have two minutes, Annie. Take it away.

Das ist die Part of the show where Ed and I sit quietly and sup on our turkey lobster for two minutes. Well, Annie, tell us something we need to know about Alexi's Swaye. My stopwatch is ready. You have two minutes, Annie. Take it away.

So there we go, Alexi Swaye, fun guy, I think. Yeah. Thank you very much. And to you, lovely listener, join me next time as we cook up another historical feast. But for now, I'm off to go and invent Turkey a la Wellington. It's basically Turkey in a rubber boot. Bye!

So there we go, Alexi Swaye, fun guy, I think. Yeah. Thank you very much. And to you, lovely listener, join me next time as we cook up another historical feast. But for now, I'm off to go and invent Turkey a la Wellington. It's basically Turkey in a rubber boot. Bye!

It's Lucy Worsley here and we're back with a brand new series of Lady Swindlers.

It's Lucy Worsley here and we're back with a brand new series of Lady Swindlers.

When I asked if you wanted to do this show, your face lit up with a frenzied zeal I've not seen before. I was first asked about this when I'd just finished watching Shogun and was listening to the audiobook. In fact, I may well have been listening to the audiobook when I first got an email about it.

When I asked if you wanted to do this show, your face lit up with a frenzied zeal I've not seen before. I was first asked about this when I'd just finished watching Shogun and was listening to the audiobook. In fact, I may well have been listening to the audiobook when I first got an email about it.

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Is Edo the sort of name that was given to what we now call Tokyo? Was called Edo at the time. I'm going to go 1647. 1647. Well, the show is set in 1600.

Is Edo the sort of name that was given to what we now call Tokyo? Was called Edo at the time. I'm going to go 1647. 1647. Well, the show is set in 1600.

I am very, very unlikely to conquer Japan. However, if I did and eight years later I died and de jure, if not de facto, rule passed to my five-year-old son, I would be so gutted. After all this effort, only eight years would suck.

I am very, very unlikely to conquer Japan. However, if I did and eight years later I died and de jure, if not de facto, rule passed to my five-year-old son, I would be so gutted. After all this effort, only eight years would suck.

It's like the way that you said that, like I briefly queried whether you had personally taught me Japanese in the past. You said it with the authority of like my mum when I miss a bit of grammar in Gujarati or something. It's like, what are you doing? How did I raise you? What's going on here? Shogun, maybe that just means like a warlord or something. I don't know. That's a good sensible guess.

It's like the way that you said that, like I briefly queried whether you had personally taught me Japanese in the past. You said it with the authority of like my mum when I miss a bit of grammar in Gujarati or something. It's like, what are you doing? How did I raise you? What's going on here? Shogun, maybe that just means like a warlord or something. I don't know. That's a good sensible guess.

The official translation would be barbarian subduing general. Nice. What a succinct language.

The official translation would be barbarian subduing general. Nice. What a succinct language.

The image is the image that everyone has in their head, you know, like the armor and the swords and these sorts of things. I think that it's like a hereditary thing or a family thing.