Greg Jenner

So meanwhile, in Britain, there's a horrible, violent Civil War, but it's happening in France too.

And there is a suggestion that the king will be seized, that, you know, Louis will be seized.

Philippe falls ill at one point and he gets left behind.

And not to put everything into popular culture, but is he the one in The Three Musketeers?

I'm actually not talking about... He probably is.

I'm not thinking of the novel.

I'm actually thinking of the cartoon.

Are you thinking of Dogtanion?

Dogtanion, yeah.

That famous documentary.

Yeah, I don't know if that's one that you study a lot, Jonathan.

You're right, there is a Gaston, isn't there?

I'm aware of it, but I haven't seen it.

It's dubbed in English as well.

Oh, yes.

And Mazarin and Richelieu are the sort of chief advisors in those books, aren't they?

So Uncle Gaston.

It's nice to know that every family has a problematic uncle, even in the 17th century.

Yeah, should we get into that?

So we've got little Philippe's life beginning with, tragically, losing his father, experiencing a civil war, seeing a king of England being beheaded, seeing his brother being sort of hounded by their own uncle.