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And his great-grandson, is that because the son and the grandson have died?

Yeah.

Tom, have we convinced you the Duke Philippe deserves his podcast?

Yes.

Oh, yes, I'm sure he would be very pleased to know that we are commemorating him here.

But I feel like, given what we've learned, he probably would expect a little bit more.

I think something more like an opera.

What a great idea.

A bit more razzmatazz.

Yes, I feel like someone like Rufus Wainwright would be penning it right now.

Well, it's time now for the nuance window.

This is where Tom and I sit quietly to plan our masquerade costumes.

I'm going Shepherdess, how about you?

For two minutes while Jonathan holds court and tells us something we need to know about Philippe, Duke d'Orléans.

So my stopwatch is ready.

Take it away, Dr. Jonathan.

Tom, final thoughts on Philippe?

I suppose what an inspiring person to teach you that even if life hasn't given you the most prominent position, you can actually make a heck of a lot of what you get up to.

I mean, it helps, of course, if you are the second son of the most powerful dynasty in Europe at the time.

But that aside, good to know you can still do something.