Greg Jenner

Zouane Chabotot. Zouane Chabotot. But also, he was also... Zouane Chabotot. He was also Jean Cabot, to the French, and he was John Cabot.

Zouane Chabotot. Zouane Chabotot. But also, he was also... Zouane Chabotot. He was also Jean Cabot, to the French, and he was John Cabot.

Yeah, that's good. So 1497, Vanessa, he sets off from Bristol. Why? And in what ship? Because he's a Venetian. What's he doing in Bristol?

Yeah, that's good. So 1497, Vanessa, he sets off from Bristol. Why? And in what ship? Because he's a Venetian. What's he doing in Bristol?

Much colder than we were expecting, am I to say? Yeah. So John Cabot, or Zwan Cabot, was sent off by Henry VII, Henry Tudor, father of Henry VIII, from Bristol, returns to Bristol and says, I found China, job done. There are more expeditions and they're not, they don't go that well, do they, Vanessa?

Much colder than we were expecting, am I to say? Yeah. So John Cabot, or Zwan Cabot, was sent off by Henry VII, Henry Tudor, father of Henry VIII, from Bristol, returns to Bristol and says, I found China, job done. There are more expeditions and they're not, they don't go that well, do they, Vanessa?

Yeah, I mean, there's definitely going to be... You don't want to come back and say, no, it's definitely not China. You probably want to say, could be China. Your Majesty, we've completely failed. You're not going to say that, are you?

Yeah, I mean, there's definitely going to be... You don't want to come back and say, no, it's definitely not China. You probably want to say, could be China. Your Majesty, we've completely failed. You're not going to say that, are you?

Yeah. That money you gave me, wasted. It's gone. Threw it in the sea. I've cut my head off in advance. So you're right. So Giovanni de Verrazzano... thinks he's found the Northwest Passage, he's actually found North Carolina, which actually, of course, is where Blackbeard operated. Ah, of course. We're linking back to your earlier episode. So that was 1523.

Yeah. That money you gave me, wasted. It's gone. Threw it in the sea. I've cut my head off in advance. So you're right. So Giovanni de Verrazzano... thinks he's found the Northwest Passage, he's actually found North Carolina, which actually, of course, is where Blackbeard operated. Ah, of course. We're linking back to your earlier episode. So that was 1523.

Then we get more explorers heading off to chart Newfoundland's coastline, and then they're competing in this sort of 16th century game show, which we might sort of loosely call Claim That Arctic. It is everyone's racing. So let's talk about Martin Frobisher, because he's next up in the list. So who is Frobisher? He's another Englishman?

Then we get more explorers heading off to chart Newfoundland's coastline, and then they're competing in this sort of 16th century game show, which we might sort of loosely call Claim That Arctic. It is everyone's racing. So let's talk about Martin Frobisher, because he's next up in the list. So who is Frobisher? He's another Englishman?

Yeah, I mean, it's a very sad reminder of the sort of cost of these explorations, obviously going out and the danger of it. But also if you're sort of kidnapping people and bringing them back home, that's also pretty cruel.

Yeah, I mean, it's a very sad reminder of the sort of cost of these explorations, obviously going out and the danger of it. But also if you're sort of kidnapping people and bringing them back home, that's also pretty cruel.

If people want to know more about that, we did an episode with Professor Caroline Dodds-Pennock on the Columbian Exchange, which talks about those sort of movements of people and goods and ideas. But let's get back to slightly cheerier notes. Frobisher found some treasures.

If people want to know more about that, we did an episode with Professor Caroline Dodds-Pennock on the Columbian Exchange, which talks about those sort of movements of people and goods and ideas. But let's get back to slightly cheerier notes. Frobisher found some treasures.

Oh, lovely. Naturally.

Oh, lovely. Naturally.

Yes, but I think he was very keen on going, it's definitely gold, it's gold, gold, gold. Our next contestant is a man called Henry Hudson. Heard the name? No. Okay, that's fair. He's quite famous.

Yes, but I think he was very keen on going, it's definitely gold, it's gold, gold, gold. Our next contestant is a man called Henry Hudson. Heard the name? No. Okay, that's fair. He's quite famous.