Greg Lukianoff

I actually think it would be great if public schools could teach the Bible, like, in the sense of, like, read it as a historical document.

But back when I was at the ACLU, every time I saw people trying this, it always turned into them actually advocating for, you know, a Catholic or a Protestant or some – or Orthodox even – kind of, like, read on religion.

So –

If you actually make it into something advocating for a particular view on religion, then it crosses into the establishment class side.

So Americans haven't figured out a way to actually teach it, so it's probably better that you learn outside of a public school class.

I think the answer is it depends on from whose perspective.

For some people, the bottom line is you have to teach it as true.

And under those conditions, then the answer is no, you can't teach without offending someone at least.

You can try really hard and you will still make some people angry, but serious people will be like, oh, no, you actually tried to be fair to the beliefs here.

And I try to be respectful as much as I can about –

A lot of this.

I still find myself much more drawn to both Buddhism and Stoicism.

I'm very proud of them.

People have been asking me since day one to do a ranking of schools according to freedom of speech.

Even though we have the best database in existence of campus speech codes, policies that universities have that violate First Amendment or First Amendment norms, we also have the best database of what we call the disinvitation database.

But it's actually the, it's better named the deplatforming database, which is what we're going to call it.

Disinvited or deplatforming also includes shouting down.

Yeah, exactly.

And so having that, what we really needed in order to have some serious social science to really make a serious argument about what the ranking was.

was to be able to, one, get a better sense of how many professors were actually getting punished during this time.