Greg Lukianoff

And this is one of those tensions in First Amendment that actually I think has a pretty easy release, essentially.

You absolutely have the right to devote your life to ending freedom of speech and ridiculing it as a concept.

And there are people who really can come off as very contemptible about even the philosophy of freedom of speech.

And we will defend your right to do that.

We will also disagree with you.

And if you try to get a professor fired, we will be on the other side of that.

Now, I think you had Randy Kennedy, who I really – I love him.

I think he's a great guy.

But he criticized us for our deplatforming database as saying – this is saying that students can't protest speakers.

I'm like –

Okay, that's silly.

We, FIRE, as an organization, have defended the right to protest all the time.

We are constantly defending the rights of protesters.

Not believing that the protesters have the right to say this would—basically, that would be punishing the speakers.

We're not calling for punishing the protesters, but what we are saying is you can't let the protesters win if they're demanding someone be fired for their freedom of speech.

Yeah, exactly.

And of course, shout downs.

That's just mob censorship.

And that's something where the university – the way you deal with that tension in First Amendment law is essentially kind of like the one positive duty that the government has.

The first – the negative duty, the thing that it's not allowed to do is censor you.