Greg Lukianoff

But again, it will never get you anywhere near the truth.

Yeah, I think that COVID was a big blow to people's faith and expertise, and cancel culture played a big role in that.

I think one of the best examples of this is Jennifer Say at Levi's.

She is a lovely woman.

She was a vice president at Levi's.

She talked about actually potentially to be the president of Levi's Jeans.

And she was a big advocate for kids.

And when they started shutting down the schools, she started saying, this is going to be a disaster.

This is going to hurt the poor and disadvantaged kids the most.

We have to figure out a way to open the schools back up.

And that was such a heretical point of view.

And the typical kind of cancel culture wave took over as he had all sorts of petitions for her to be fired and that she needed to apologize and all this kind of stuff.

And, you know, she was offered, I think, like a million-dollar severance, which she wouldn't take because she wanted to tell the world what she thought about this and that she wanted to continue saying that she hadn't changed her mind, that this was a disaster for young people.

And now that's kind of the conventional wisdom, and the research is quite clear, that this was devastating for

to particularly disadvantaged youths.

Like people understand this now as being, okay, she was probably right.

But one of the really sad aspects of cancel culture is people forget why you were canceled and they just know they hate you.

There's this lingering kind of like, well, I don't have to take them seriously anymore.

But by the way, did you notice they happen to be right on something very important?

Now, one funny thing about freedom of speech