Greg McKeown

And so this seagull is just, it's not like just hit and flew off.

Like he has damaged this seagull and not to be too graphic, but he has just paralyzed the seagull.

And it's absolutely horrific as far as I was concerned.

And the scene of it too, like it's a peaceful scene and the whole point was creation and honoring that.

And I just couldn't even speak to him.

I couldn't even look at him.

I just was like, what were you thinking?

And so we were on public transport all the way home and the same, I couldn't look at him, couldn't speak to him.

I was just in shock.

And I suppose that I was moving into that mode.

So this was not long after I had been introduced to the power of Rogerian type listening and understanding.

And so I had already seen firsthand within months of this experience.

So this was very close to having just discovered it in a formal sense that there was structure to this and that it was repeatable and that you could connect with people in minutes, not months.

And to have them say things like, I've never told anyone this, but suddenly they would be doing it.

And it was so amazing to me, almost, almost magic.

and so i'm wrestling with this and then this experience happens and in a way i think i thought well what's it all for if i can't apply it here certainly this is a testing moment right can it apply into the thing that i think is so unthinkable or wrong or foolish or whatever the words would be so

After I was a bit more regulated, I asked him, okay, so what were you thinking, right?

But from a genuine, okay, I want to see where you're coming from.

I've still got my own strangeness about it, but I can put that aside for a moment.

Where's it coming from?