Gregg Braden

And one of the reasons for this, and you can go to the NASA website and you can look at some of these images, the James Webb Space Telescope, they're showing galaxies that are in proximity of something that is dangerous to them, like an exploding, you know, whatever.

And what they'll do is they'll create jets from the center, both directions, these jets that actually move them out of the way.

I've got a new book, and I talk about that in the new book.

So it's documented in the book.

They actually move them to a safer place.

And you say, well, maybe that's a fluke.

It's a one-off.

But they have found that.

They found it happens time and time again.

Conscious and intelligent.

Those are two very different things.

But that is a very different story.

If our universe is alive and intelligent and conscious and we're the product of an intentional act,

We solve our problems, Joe, and we build our world based on the way we've been taught to think about ourselves.

We use our resources.

We apply our technology based on the way we've been taught to think about ourselves.

And we have been taught that we are a flawed form of life, that we are powerless victims of the world around us.

And because of that,

This is going to lead into this whole conversation.

Because of that, we need a savior.