Gregg Braden

And the mantle begins to seep into the crust.

And it's the mantle that is heating the oceans from underneath because of that.

It happens about every 12,500 years.

And that number, if you talk to Randall, we just did a conference in Boulder.

He was in the conference that we did up there.

and that has to do with the Younger Dryas.

I think you've had guests talking about... So the Younger Dryas was the last time that this happened.

It happened 12,500 years before that, 12,500 years before that.

I've got a chart.

You can see it.

It's like clockwork.

The ocean is—that's the equilibrium.

It's outgassing, and it's also—there's an equilibrium between what we're creating in the—and we are creating in the atmosphere.

You have to be honest about it.

We're creating carbon dioxide, and the ocean is what's called the sink.

It's the CO2 sink that's soaking that up.

So what's happening, Joe, is—

The mantle is being disturbed.

It is heating the oceans from underneath, releasing the carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

And that's where that's coming from.