Gregg Braden

And there's a lot of that.

Well, this is what I think is important.

It is in religions, but I think you can break out.

There are historical texts and there's religious texts.

So if you're reading the Bible, there's religion and history in the Bible.

If you're looking at Sumerian, Akkadian, Babylonian texts from the Mesopotamian era, they're telling similar stories, and you've had guests on talking about this, where the stories are similar, but the religion is not part of that.

And so I think what we're doing, we're kind of beating around the bush to a deeper conversation here.

And that's why I've hesitated a couple of times because I just don't want us to get so far down one side.

Oh, don't worry about that.

That's what this show is all about.

It doesn't matter.

Well, I think this is all tied into disclosure and what's happening, the reluctance to have the full disclosure.

You've been in a lot of documentaries.

I have been in a lot.

It's hard to remember what it's been.

I've been in a lot, and a lot of what I said was left on the cutting room floor.

Always.

And there's a couple reasons for that.

One thing I learned, Joe, and maybe you've learned this as well, if you're going to be in a documentary, ask if you are on the front end of the filming or the back end of the filming.

What does that mean?