Gretchen Carlson
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I would just also add that I looked into the eyes of my children who were middle schoolers at the time. And I just decided that I was doing it for their generation as well. I think there was sort of this... misconception in our society, even in 2016, that women had come much more far along in not only equality, but in being treated with harassment in the workplace.
I would just also add that I looked into the eyes of my children who were middle schoolers at the time. And I just decided that I was doing it for their generation as well. I think there was sort of this... misconception in our society, even in 2016, that women had come much more far along in not only equality, but in being treated with harassment in the workplace.
And one of the reasons why Americans were fooled about that is because of the silencing mechanisms like nondisclosures that have kept all these issues secret. And it gave this perception that women were being treated wonderfully, and that wasn't the case.
And one of the reasons why Americans were fooled about that is because of the silencing mechanisms like nondisclosures that have kept all these issues secret. And it gave this perception that women were being treated wonderfully, and that wasn't the case.
We still, almost nine years later now, women are still going to be penalized if they come forward. And especially back when I did what I did in 2016, you know, the number one thing my lawyer said to me is they're going to kill you. They will do everything in their power to malign you, to call you a liar, to dig up everything in their past life, you know, and make it all a negative.
We still, almost nine years later now, women are still going to be penalized if they come forward. And especially back when I did what I did in 2016, you know, the number one thing my lawyer said to me is they're going to kill you. They will do everything in their power to malign you, to call you a liar, to dig up everything in their past life, you know, and make it all a negative.
And, you know, that all happened. But We've made a lot of strides since then with the work that I've done. I mean, women are actually believed now, right? You've seen juries convict people of similar crimes because juries are also just more knowledgeable now about why women stay at their jobs in these types of situations, why women stay in these relationships if it's domestic violence.
And, you know, that all happened. But We've made a lot of strides since then with the work that I've done. I mean, women are actually believed now, right? You've seen juries convict people of similar crimes because juries are also just more knowledgeable now about why women stay at their jobs in these types of situations, why women stay in these relationships if it's domestic violence.
So there's been great strides, but with all the people who reach out to me, I still say it's such a personal decision to come forward because you will probably be penalized. You probably will be fired. You probably won't work in your chosen profession ever again. And so it's a huge risk. And most people can't afford, quite honestly, to do that. And so they just suck it up and they endure.
So there's been great strides, but with all the people who reach out to me, I still say it's such a personal decision to come forward because you will probably be penalized. You probably will be fired. You probably won't work in your chosen profession ever again. And so it's a huge risk. And most people can't afford, quite honestly, to do that. And so they just suck it up and they endure.
And that's what keeps this vicious cycle going, along with making sure that it's all secret, right? So what I'm trying to do with the work at Lift Our Voices is normalize this enough that where more and more women come forward, the more that we make it not such a one-off situation, the more that we can change the hearts and minds of people who run companies to not penalize people who come forward.
And that's what keeps this vicious cycle going, along with making sure that it's all secret, right? So what I'm trying to do with the work at Lift Our Voices is normalize this enough that where more and more women come forward, the more that we make it not such a one-off situation, the more that we can change the hearts and minds of people who run companies to not penalize people who come forward.
It's a tangled web to fix, but... Currently, women are probably still going to be punished.
It's a tangled web to fix, but... Currently, women are probably still going to be punished.
Yeah, and just to be clear, I had been preparing my lawsuit for months and months and months before they fired me. Honestly, my legal team never thought they were going to fire me because it was such an act of alleged retaliation then, right? It made it so crystal clear that I had done nothing wrong. And so they were shocked when they fired me.
Yeah, and just to be clear, I had been preparing my lawsuit for months and months and months before they fired me. Honestly, my legal team never thought they were going to fire me because it was such an act of alleged retaliation then, right? It made it so crystal clear that I had done nothing wrong. And so they were shocked when they fired me.
So I don't want to give the implication that they fired me and then I hurriedly put together a lawsuit. No, this was something that I had going on behind the scenes for quite some time. But back to my family, yes, it's hard on a marriage. It's not like you come home from work every day and say to your partner, hey, this is what's happened to me at work.
So I don't want to give the implication that they fired me and then I hurriedly put together a lawsuit. No, this was something that I had going on behind the scenes for quite some time. But back to my family, yes, it's hard on a marriage. It's not like you come home from work every day and say to your partner, hey, this is what's happened to me at work.
It's hard to come home to your husband and say, this is what another man is saying to me or doing to me. So there's that. My children were, as I said, in middle school, so a very vulnerable age of acceptance already being difficult, friendships being fractured, and they were my paramount concern. But I'll start with my parents, who I'm still blessed to have in my life.
It's hard to come home to your husband and say, this is what another man is saying to me or doing to me. So there's that. My children were, as I said, in middle school, so a very vulnerable age of acceptance already being difficult, friendships being fractured, and they were my paramount concern. But I'll start with my parents, who I'm still blessed to have in my life.