GT Dave

And that was the catalyst for like understanding more.

Cause I think up to that point, it was just like the pseudo quasi healthy thing that they didn't really know why it was healthy, but they drank it and they felt it felt good and that was it.

Yeah, that's exactly right.

I mean, if you think of kombucha,

Dairy or water kefir, miso, tempeh, sauerkraut, kimchi.

I mean, these are foods that like cultures relied on.

I don't even think they really knew what was in it, but they just knew that there was like this chemistry that their bodies needed or resonated with.

Honestly, that moment, something happened where I was like, this needs to be shared.

And then on the flip side, Rick, I was getting ready to drop out of high school.

because I was a young gay boy growing up in LA in the 90s.

And unlike today's world, for the most part, it was not welcome.

And I was being bullied.

I was being ostracized.

And so I was on my own path thinking, like, I'm going to need to make a hard turn of some sort because I'm not on a path that I feel good about.

And so that mixed with kombucha and how it helped my mom all of a sudden together became my new purpose.

I look back sometimes, I did an ayahuasca ceremony two weekends ago and the medicine brought me back to that moment.

Because a lot of times our lives are defined by these pivotal moments that sometimes we ignore or we don't remember.

But that was definitely a pivotal moment for me.

Yeah.

So then how did you start the sharing process?