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That's funny.

Yeah, it's... You just, they cannot, you can't hide that part of it.

I think he did, and he still couldn't do it, because when it's over, it's over.

Because I just told you.

Because it's not typical.

In Kabul, your wife would have to wear a head-to-toe burka every... That's on her.

It's not virtue signaling to say.

You shouldn't say it. No, you're right.

It's a sign of respect. It's the White House.

100%.

So I'm just on here... Who's doing it?

But it's a disingenuous argument. Why is it disingenuous? Because I just told you. You said you can't live there, and I was like, here's another place.

December 7th, 1941, a date which will live

One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.

I welcome this kind of examination because people have got to know whether or not their president is a crook. Well, I'm not a crook. If we dig deep in our history and our doctrine and remember that we are not descended from fearful men.

Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

Helicopter mom.

Yeah.

I know.

So hard.

That's true.

Yeah. Did you see that? No. Yeah. Hillary Clinton got booed. You know, they they tied them both in saying Bill and Hillary Clinton and Mike Pence got booed by MAGA fans as they entered the Capitol Rotunda. So, you know, the event was being streamed. They moved it indoors because of the temperature and the wind and all that stuff outside.

Um, I have people telling me it was all actually for other reasons. Yeah. I was told the same. Okay. All right. Um, you know, and it wasn't just because of the weather. Um, but they moved it inside. And so they, they, what they did was they set up a bunch of different locations that were kind of just live streaming the event going on.

Um, and so, yeah, so, uh, there was a shit ton of fans, um, who were in, uh, one of the viewing locations. And when they announced her coming, I mean, it was fucking insane. Check this video out. I mean, rightfully so, right?

For sure. Well, the only part that I didn't like was the fact, I mean, it wasn't like they were piping the music in from the audience. So it's like they didn't know they were getting fucking booed. They're walking like their shit still doesn't stink. But... And I don't think they were booing Bill. I think he's fine. But I mean, Hillary definitely got it.

No shit.

Oh, man.

I have to retract my statement there. Yeah. Just saying. We'll see. I mean, we'll see. So, I mean, the inauguration went smooth. Trump delivered a great speech. I mean, it was actually one of his shorter ones. But, I mean, I thought he did really, really well in the speech. A lot of stuff still on the agenda while the show's going on.

Apparently, he's set to sign over 200 executive orders on day one, which is a lot. I'll be honest. And I think here's my fear is that, like, my personal issue. I have no problem giving some criticism on Trump, okay? Well, we're going to have to.

I mean, that's what we do.

My only issue, I mean, 200 executive orders, stuff gets lost in the sauce. You know what I'm saying? So it's like... We complained about Biden doing 48 on day one. You're doing 200. You know what I'm saying? We got to be careful, man. There's a lot of hypocrisy going on with that. So we'll see what those 200s are. We know a couple of them so far that he's talked about.

Yeah, for sure. But that's what I'm saying. Like, what is it? Yeah. What is it? We don't know all of it, but we do know a couple of those things. One of those things being he's vowing to release and declassify the JFK, RFK and MLK assassination files in a massive transparency push.

Guilty by association.

Well, I mean, listen, you know, since we're going in the deep end, I wanted to show you something.

You know, I got my dot to think. You know, we talked, you know, he's been doing BJJ and stuff like that.

Dominating. Dominating.

Yeah. But no, I've been trying to do this little dive on martial arts and the history. I mean, it's a lot of different disciplines out there. I didn't know that. Did you know that there is a special discipline of Jews with martial arts? Jews? There's Jewish martial arts. Did you know this?

I think the other thing, too, that like it does give me hope and that, you know, Trump's going to do some do some necessary shit that needs to be done. And, you know, what I use as a sign on this is like to see the reaction of the people who have been committing these things. Right. It's like the first I want to point you to.

I'm not sure if you saw this federal employees quietly edit job descriptions to protect roles from Dodge scrutiny. This just came out from CNN a few days ago, but apparently people are going in the database. Federal employees are going in and they're changing their description of their jobs.

changing the names of their jobs to kind of shield them from any type of scrutiny that's going to come from the new Department of Government Efficiency. So, I mean, you see stuff like this, and people are definitely freaking out because they know the fucking whip's coming. You know what I'm saying? They know it's coming. You can see it through actions like this.

Or more recently, and I know this is on everybody's, you know, they got to cover this. We're going to cover it. President Biden preemptively pardons General Mealey. Anthony Fauci, and January 6th committee members. This came out this morning, okay, hours before the inauguration. 20 minutes. Oh, no, no, no. I'm sorry. It was like 7 a.m. This was ours. His family was 20 minutes.

But he pardoned these people at 7 a.m. this morning. Okay. Several hours before the inauguration where he completely pardoned these people. And it was a full sweeping preemptive pardon. This was the memorandum that got released at 7 a.m. this morning. And, you know, it's interesting.

And obviously the main question here is, OK, well, I mean, if they didn't do anything illegal, what's the pardon for? Right.

Bro, watch this. This shit's crazy.

Or do we get back right on the list? I'm in January 20th. I'm going to be fine. They put us on the Jew list. Well, I don't think we're ever coming off that list. But no, dude, this is crazy. So this is Jewish martial arts. Watch this.

Well, what it was, bro, it was people who were always picked last for fucking kickball getting the fucking captain of the team spot. That's what it was. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They fucking used it.

And we were right about fucking all of it. Bro, I mean, listen, I remember firsthand because I had my first daughter during the COVID shit. They almost didn't let me see my daughter during the delivery room. Bro.

Yeah.

No, you didn't. You created more poverty. Well, the thing that was interesting, too, with these pardons that he put out, specifically on this first set, in the memo he says, in certain cases, quote, in certain cases, some have even been threatened with criminal prosecutions. Who has been threatening him with criminal prosecutions? Because like Trump hasn't showed his cards on this at all.

Not fucking once. You know what I'm saying? Like who's threatening him? Nobody's threatening. There's been no fucking filing of documentation.

The people have for sure. The people have for sure. But there hasn't been any official fucking documents that have been entered. You know what I'm saying? Nobody's actually started the processes on this. You're preemptively pardoning these people for stuff that apparently they didn't do at all.

One of the other pardons, I don't know if you saw this one, but one of the other pardons, he pardoned that Capitol Hill cop that shot and killed Ashley Babbitt. He put he put him into the sweeping preemptive pardons. And then minutes before the inauguration, as you alluded to, Biden announced blanket pardon for his brother, James, burying family influence peddling probe for good.

Even if all of that was true, knowing what we know, With the shit that these people have done, fuck those pardons. Yeah, I agree. Fuck them. They mean absolutely nothing.

I agree.

And tripled it.

Fucking quadrupled it, bro. Yeah.

it's insane man so i mean a lot to still come i know with the pardon situation i don't think melania trump is is thinking about pardons right now she doesn't i don't think they're trying to kill a fucking husband i don't think donald trump is either dude i think we're gonna see some fucking some head whacking happen here bro you know i was watching when i was watching the speech you know and you see the crowd stand up and shit and you look in the behind them and you see fucking the biden you see the obamas and

You see the fucking Clintons and shit. Yeah. Part of me was just hoping, bro, that Trump would just be like, you know what, and we're going to start. Arrest them all. We're going to start right now. Like, bro, I was praying for that.

It might still be my, you know, tin hat, tinfoil hat stuff, but man.

Oh, they're so nasty. Oh, man.

I hope not, man.

Well, I think the important thing, and you talk about this a lot too, man. Like, I mean, just on some real like truth here. You know what I'm saying? It's okay to make a mistake, but you got to learn from it. You know what I'm saying? I think that's one thing. I mean, he's admitted that. You know what I'm saying? It's like there's things that I didn't know.

Right there. I mean, Elon Musk, you can't really hard him too much. No, but that's fucking Google, dude. Google. Meta. Fuck, it's all there. You know? So, I mean, listen, America is back maybe.

I thought it was cool, man. It's a nice little discipline, dude. It's cool. You can find those disciplines in all parts of the world.

Down in the comments, let us know what you guys think. With that being said, let's go cruise some of these comments. This first comment comes from Michael Apurek. Aprilwack? Aprilwick?

yep he says uh five foot five guy here can't confirm we're mad all the time well at least he's honest is what it is yep all right uh appreciate you mike yep sorry i make shoes for that yeah next one uh this next one oh man i almost read this one wrong stiff sock 201 stiff sock Why is that your username, bro? What is that? Stiff Sock? I don't know.

Let's see what he's got to say. Stiff Sock 201, he says, it is, what's that, 1004. My wife is Italian-Brazilian. She's the love of my life. She's beautiful, smart, hardworking, and, again, beautiful. She's right behind me holding a cast iron pan. What? I love her very much. I'm so lucky to have her. She's got retard strength. She is a fantastic cook and is one of the most creative people I know.

If I said anything bad, she's going to beat me with that retard strength and cast iron pan. I love her very much.

Yeah, fuck it. All right.

blink twice yeah let's do a courtesy check on him welfare check yeah man all right uh last one uh this is uh from uh at beekeeping 69 uh he says uh down to gas station rhino pill with the great first form energy and got my shit looking like mike tyson's neck ready to pedal fit out my hellcat not registered bro what is wrong with these people man i don't know That's an interesting combo.

Did you write this comment? No.

No.

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We're going to do a little – let's go back in time a little bit because we've got to cover these. We didn't get a chance to last week. Some of the nomination hearings were interesting. A lot of good stuff. There was some weird stuff going on, though. I want to go first. Did you see this senator down in Georgia?

He's a state senator for Georgia who was basically the leader trying to get Fannie Willis out of the prosecutions and stuff like that for Trump. He got assaulted and arrested while trying to enter the Georgia House chambers. Did you see this? Mm-hmm. This is interesting. And I got some thoughts on this, but but let's dive into this. So he posted this this tweet.

Senator Colton Moore, Senator Colton Moore, exposed and defeated corrupt district attorney Fannie Willis last year, has been arrested by the anti-Trump speaker of the House. Colton is being held in the same Atlanta jail as President Trump. This was tweeted from his profile. We are working to ensure his expedient release.

Please pray for all of those standing up for our freedom and peace for all Georgians. Team Moore. Here's the clip. Check this out.

They arrested this guy. Really? I mean, he's an elected member of Georgia.

That's what I'm saying. And nobody talked about this. That's why I'm like, I saw him. I'm like, what the fuck is going on down in Georgia right now? I don't know. I don't know. That's weird, though. It's weird, man.

Bro, I would have. Self-defense. Yeah. But you got to be careful what you're doing in there. I also wanted to bring in, too, we talked about it a little bit, Pam Bondi. I know our buddy Eric Schmidt's a big fan of her. I know they've worked closely. When he was the AG here, she was the AG of Florida. There was some cool dialogues. I didn't know much about her, to be honest. I really didn't.

But I watched through some of her nomination hearings, and I thought she was pretty cool. Let's check this clip out. This was one of her exchanges. This happened last week. Check this out.

Yeah, you know what I mean? I don't know. I thought that was pretty fucking cool. She seems like a good pick. She seems reasonable. Other things that are going on.

Yeah. That's true. You know, fuck. That's true. Now, I mean, the other reason I wanted to bring her up too though is because, you know, we talk about this accountability part. She's going to be crucial in that. You know what I'm saying? As the federal AG, I mean, she's going to be very, very crucial in that process. And so it's going to be interesting to see.

I mean, I don't know if this is more of like a where your loyalties lie type of thing, but I don't think these are like traditional times, bro. I don't think so either. You know, and so it's like you can't use traditional methods. I agree. And you can't go through traditional means.

Yeah, that's right. Fuck you. Bullshit. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. So, I mean, it's going to be very, very, very interesting to see what she does, man, and how she reacts. Yeah. And that's what they were trying to grill her on. I don't think it worked. I mean, I think she held her on, and she's in. So we'll see. Like I said, I just want to do a little quick follow-up on that. That's headline number two.

Not too much there. But let's go to our third and final headline. We're going to go travel the world a little bit, check out some other places. But headline number three. This is an interesting one. I'm going to show you this, okay? And then I want us to guess what happens next. OK, headline number three is Pope Francis. Resistance to immigration is a primal reaction. Okay.

It is.

Pope Francis has reiterated his call for a more welcoming attitude towards migrants, insisting everyone has the right to dream of a better future.

He says certain populist political regimes, as well as certain liberal economic approaches, maintain that an influx of migrants is to be prevented at all costs. Pope's laments in a new encyclical letter titled Brothers All, meaning the great numbers of lives are at stake.

No, and listen, it's embracing.

He says he wants to ask everyone to move beyond those primal reactions because there is a problem when doubt and fears conditions our way of thinking and acting to the point of making us intolerant, closed, and perhaps even without realizing it racist, he warns. In his way, fear deprives us of the desire and the ability to encounter the other. What do you think happens next?

Lift it up. Yo, man, listen, guys, we got a lot of stuff to cover today on this beautiful, sunny Monday. Got a lot of stuff to dive into. Remember, if you want to see any of these pictures, articles, links, videos, go to andyfersella.com. You guys can find them all linked there. You want to do this, Cruz? Yeah. All right. Seatbelts on. I'm ready. We're rolling. Let's go. Headline number one.

Well, that's funny because, you know, the migrants tried to do that. You know what happened?

Vatican promises stiff penalties for illegal aliens crossing its border.

Right.

Yeah, we gotta welcome everybody, and then they double their fucking arm security.

How does that work? They're liars. It's so crazy to me.

Right. Right. Well, you know, I saw this thing a while ago. It was like the most popular baby boy name in Ireland is right now. Muhammad. Muhammad. Yeah. It's been that way for years. What?

You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just crazy. Now. We got the Vatican doing this back and forth.

What's the point of it then? Yeah, I agree with you. Now, some places, you know, we will say this. There are some places that you're starting to see, and I don't know if this is tied into DJT being back in and they know that, you know, how we're going to be handling the shit here. But you do see some other countries starting to wake up. Right. Let's go to Sweden first. Here come the deportation.

Sweden to change constitution and remove citizenship from fraudulent migrants and threats to the state. There's a new word on the street. OK, they don't want to use deportation anymore. They're saying remigration is what what they're now calling it. And there's a strong trend in Europe against not only illegals, but also non assimilating or criminal migrants who have already obtained citizenship.

So while the European establishment is going mad over Germans, AFD's electoral chances, some other political actors that are already in power are also advancing in this issue with vigor. Sweden has just made a promise. The current government announced yesterday that

this is back on the 15th, that it will change the Constitution so as to take away passports from people who got their citizenship by fraudulent means or else are a threat to the state. So they're about to start doing this mass remigration in Sweden. Isn't that the home of the WEF as well? No, that's Switzerland. Switzerland, okay. Yeah, Davos. They all look the same.

Obviously, it's Trump's inauguration day, also known apparently as Liberation Day, as he coined it, a.k.a. Yeah. A lot of stuff happening. Want to cover firstly. Get your take on this before we even dive really into any of that. His official inaugural portrait portrait got released. Uh, and, uh, it was, it was definitely interesting.

They protect it.

They protect themselves, man.

That's really what it is. I know. I know it is. And you know, the fucked up thing is on top of all of that, you know, it's like these countries, you know, obviously America, they tried it. You know, it doesn't work too much because we have guns. We are able to protect ourselves so far.

You know, but they punish these people that are speak like, you know, that are simply speaking out their frustrations about this shit. Fucking Europe, they're putting them in prison. Look, in Germany, okay, so the AFD chapter in German city, they were distributing these flyers that are made to look like one-way deportation tickets. And now everybody's in a fucking meltdown.

They're trying to fucking jail these people for this. This is crazy. So German elections, there's coming up in February of this year. OK, all the parties are campaigning hard and all that good stuff. There's the Alternative for Germany Party, the AFD, and they have started pushing out these flyers that look like this. We're looking like this, right?

And... Bro, people... I'm not going to say people because I know the people of Germany are with it because most likely AFD is going to win the election, right? Because, again, the people are fed up of the bullshit. They're trying to jail these people right now. The people that are part of AFD party, they're trying to throw them in jail for doing this.

A lot of people obviously picked up on it saying that it, uh, drew some comparisons to his 2023 mugshot photo. Um, so this is his official, uh, presidential photo. Now, obviously this is the mugshot. Um, I mean, does this, I don't know. I saw that. I'm like, yeah, this dude means business. Yeah. Is that, is that okay? Okay. Yeah.

Yeah, right.

It's a simple question.

Well, and more, not even just advocating, Andy. I mean, you look at the shit that they do. I mean, we're talking about this mass illegal influx of criminals we have in this country. But when they put these bills out, when our government, our own government tried to put these bills out, you know what I'm saying, to get rid of these people and the legal routes and ways to do it.

You know, House passed this bill to deport illegal aliens who sexually assault women and abuse children.

Now, with all of that, one of the things that Donald Trump did push out.

It needs to end. It needs to. Yeah. Here's the other thing, too. People are waking up to it. It's not going to be pretty, though. And that's what people have to come to terms with. This shit ain't going to be pretty.

um today donald trump president trump um i'm sure you saw this but he put in a national emergency today right that that just got put in um on the southern border and he did a couple of things with that he designated the cartel as a terrorist organization great right that opens up resources and other tools that we can use with those uh those people because the shit that they're doing is it's it's unreal on american soil yeah on american soil yes

We are invaded. I mean, there's a war happening in our country. You got to handle it. But he put this in. And, you know, so we'll see what happens with this. You know, but he did put it in. So, I mean, it opens up money, all of that stuff. Let's check the clip out from President Trump. There's his album.

The Pope tried to, you know, after he made that speech, he takes this picture. There's one woman. There's like 15 people in that picture. There's one woman. Bro. Let them in. And then you double up security. Like, come on, man. Like I said, the shit's not going to be pretty. It ain't going to be pretty to look at, but you got to get over it. I think it'll be pretty.

I mean, it won't be palatable to some people.

Yeah, 100%, man.

The only thing I'll say on that, man, is like, you know, because they asked him.

Well, I'll say this. I mean, it's very clear he's still holding his cards, right? Because when he was signing the nominations, right, and getting these people into his cabinet, one of the journalists, she tried to ask him, like, hey, what do you think about Biden's pardons and stuff? He's like, we're not going to talk about that right now.

He's holding his cards.

We'll see. Guys, it's time to get to our final segment of the show as always. Thumbs up or dumb as fuck. I brought two of our favorite things we like to cover for these sections. It involves bears and Indians.

Like Indian Indians. Like Tonto? No, like Zeeshan. Oh, okay.

Right, right. Those kind. Yeah. Our favorite kind. They're good people. Yeah. Good people. Funny. Funny, smart. Heartworking. And apparently they'll do anything to protect their fields. So our thumbs up, or dumb as fuck headline reads, fed up farmers in India have started wearing bear costumes to protect crops from monkeys. Fucking monkeys.

I think they mean some business. Could you imagine being one of these, like one of those far left people that participated in all this shit that somehow still weaseled themselves into, you know, federal agencies, right? And then this gets hung up and you know all the shit you've done and you got to look at that.

And all you got to do to solve them is dress up like a bear. Dress up like a bear to get rid of that monkey infestation you got.

No, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's not fine. Well, I mean, they've had to resort to this. It's fine. What caused them to resort to it? Well, listen, let's dive into this. Let's dive into it. Let's try it. All right. Let's get into it. All right. So farmers have been dressing up in bear costumes to scare monkeys and protect their crops.

The farmers based in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh began wearing the costumes while patrolling their fields last month. Villagers pulled money together to purchase a bear costume, which the farmers take turns to wear. You think they wash it in between turds? Oh, fuck no. Oh, no, no. No, you got to keep the sense. The musk. The musk, so the monkeys know. Yeah, it's a real bear. It builds up.

That's right. Right, you can't wash it. Man, I'm fucking around. You can't wash it. It's a real Indian bear. Well, so fun fact, I didn't even know India had bears. I didn't either. I had no idea. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. I thought like, you know, they were scared because like, oh, there's something they've never seen before. No, but they actually do exist. This is the picture of an Indian sloth bear.

Okay. But yeah, so the farmers, they've been putting their money together, working as a community. You know, it's a lot of them in those communities that work together. Yeah.

So it's not hard to come together and get up five bucks for an outfit. So I have a picture here of one of these farmers in the bear costume. Here's the picture. Shut the fuck up, dude.

That looks like if Shane Gillis was a bear.

Yeah, that looks scary. That looks like one of the people. Yeah, it does. But apparently it works. It works. So, you know, these monkeys have been a problem. So if you guys have a monkey problem at home, just get a bear costume. Just get a bear costume. Apparently it does work. Keep the monkeys away from your shit. Yep. They won't steal anything. True.

What? Listen, this is groundbreaking shit. They're doing it over there. I'm sure it'll work everywhere. Bro, some of those monkeys get mean, though. Have you seen the videos and clips that are snatching the kids and shit and stealing their purses and stuff?

No, it's real stuff.

No, bro. You guys have seen the clips. Okay. We're like the tourists. It's like, like China has this problem bad too. Right. Like little bamboos and stuff. They'd be stealing. Like if you're a tourist, you know, they come up and try to take pictures and the fucking monkeys like beat the shit out of them and steal their stuff. So just, just wear a bear costume.

it's good to get them right it's work it's working here i mean it's working in india is it working apparently i mean they're running off you know the monkeys see that this is a picture uh of the monkeys in the field and they see that they see that they take one look like nope don't want none of that and uh apparently i don't know that either yeah so uh yeah indian farmers Fixing shit.

You know what I'm saying? Innovation. Innovation. A for effort. Solving serious problems. It's a real problem. It's a real problem. Yeah, man. What do we got? What do we got on this? I say thumbs up for innovation. Yeah. Listen, they got to protect their stuff. You know, they got to protect their stuff. I will say this, though.

Now that I'm looking at the bear picture again, the actual bear picture, you got the ears right. Go back. Ears are right. Sort of. But I mean, everything else is bad. But A for effort, man. A for effort. What do you give it? I give it thumbs up. I like it. For what? I mean, if it solves a problem. What problem is it solving? The monkey stealing the props. The monkey infestation.

You know, usually, you know, usually, historically, you know, I give it thumbs up for innovation.

All right, guys. Andy, that's all I got. All right, dopey up. Share the show.

We got those in there. Oh, you do? Yeah, he's not even talking about them. Not yet. Not yet. Yeah. Which tells me there's something still planned. Yeah, we'll talk about it.

100%. I got the same vibe from that. I like J.D. Vance's too, though. J.D. Vance is a cool dude. He just seems like a regular guy. Yeah, he's pretty sharp. He's smart as shit. He's pretty sharp, dude. He's smart.

Which is, I think is what's necessary. We need younger people. Of course. Running the country, bro. This country was not built by fucking 80 year olds. It just wasn't.

You know, if I think 40, that 40 year age, that's a good start.

You know, 40, 60. Yeah, for sure. But yeah. So you got President Donald Trump. He's back in, man. The Don is back. Yeah. So they got officially sworn in today at noon Eastern time. Now, we know his cabinet picks. I got a bunch of them. We've covered a lot of their selections here on the show in the past couple of months. Pete Hexeth, he got the defense secretary position.

Tulsi Gabbard, she's going to be over DNI. Kash Patel, FBI director. John Ratcliffe for CIA. I mean, a lot of good picks on here. A lot of good names on here. Pat Bondi, she killed it. We'll cover her a little bit later in the show as well. You know, but it's been a very eventful day so far.

So, you know, part of the ceremonies and, you know, kind of, you know, charades that happens during these days. You know, Donald Trump, he arrives at the White House, gets greeted by the outgoing president. Joe Biden had two words for him. I don't know if you saw this little interaction. This was interesting. Let's check this clip out. Trump pulls up. Welcome home. Fucking piece of shit.

It's going to be great, dude. I mean, it's a lot of good stuff. A lot of interesting stuff to cover with the whole inauguration stuff going on. But yeah, man. It's a big day in America. It's a big day in America. Yeah. But yeah, pay the fee, guys.

Dude, Melania looked like she was standing on business today, too.

It's just gross. Yeah. Now, you brought up Melania's fit. There was definitely some interesting outfits. People have been hearing there on her fit.

Share the show. Don't be a hoe.

We're not going to go deep. I did just want to bring this up because, I mean, you do talk about this. I know we got a lot of young men listeners. And you do talk about presence and how you carry yourself. And, you know, bro, you can get snazzy. You know what I'm saying? It's important. Did you see Senator John Fetterman?

Bro.

You know what I'm saying? It's just like you're a grown-ass man, bro. And you're walking up with fucking shorts and fucking on clouds. Yeah. To a presidential inauguration. Yeah. And you said front fucking row.

Yeah. No, it's a joke.

I think that's really what it comes down to, too. I don't know. That's all the fashion I got for you on that. Now, I do want to bring this up, too, because we have talked about this man many times. And we've been talking about his kind of turn, not this man, another guy I'm about to show you. We've been talking about his kind of turnaround. He's coming around the corner a little bit.

He's been doing some BJJ. We're talking about Mark Zuckerberg. I think he's finally went over that hump. He's definitely taking some testosterone or something.

Bro, he wouldn't have done that two years ago. You know what I'm saying? This is a different Zuck. Zuck's ready to fuck. That's what it is. The testosterone's flowing.

I think Bezos, yeah, by a lot.

buy a lot yeah i think because of facebook most of their inventory i mean most of their like uh their money is just like ad money you know i'm saying bezos i mean he's got i bet i bet he's gonna yell that when he gets home who is that oh for sure yeah i mean but listen i mean you know it's hard to to not look at stuff you don't got you know i mean it's just what they're they're definitely on display well that's the other piece i mean i think that was a little trashy on her end

Yeah, well, you know, you're going to a fucking president's inauguration. Got lace front. Got your titties out. Yeah, like, come on. Yeah, here's a video.

The video's funny.

Yeah, man. I thought that was cool.

Yeah, I thought that was funny, though. But other things were going on. So you got the inauguration, right? A bunch of people were there. Bezos was there. Zuck's obviously there. A lot of celebrities. Heads of states from other countries were there. You got Mad Dog Hillary Clinton. I was shocked to see her there. I was shocked when they brought her out. Well, she knows she got booed. Oh, she did.

you know for a second there i almost wanted to live out the stereotype i'm supposed to and go to jail well it's not too late i mean we figured something true this is true but there was like something we just got to accuse you of something you don't actually have to be guilty it's true because you're black there was just something in me that was like i gotta go to jail yeah you know yeah well it's in your it's in your gene it's in my dna yeah you know so i just you know i don't want to let nobody down you know i got a little bit of that too that's how i got on the list with you bro

We were really just thinking, you know, that she would come home or she was with somebody. What happened to Heather is awful, and I wouldn't want it to happen to anybody else. And so with that person still out there, still able to harm other people... It's horrific to think about. I hope people remember Heather as somebody who

has, you know, persevered and somebody who always wore a smile and can make people laugh.

Did you feel bad? No, just... Stay up with your best friends.

It was weird that you didn't feel remorse?

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Ich schätze.

It was.

1.

Also how you...

Ja. Nicht dein Knie.

Ich habe das immer gemacht.

Yeah.

Ist das der beste? Watermelon.

We're in.

Ich komme zurück.

We're not doing corn.

I picked it back up.

Let me...

You know, yourself.

That it's shutting off your

Ja, ja, ja.

Bitch fucking heads.

Oh, Hitchcock?

I was going to look up if you get sucked out of a plane window. Yeah, you can't.

Tell us if this is actually chicken that you're serving me.

It's not really a set time.

Thank you.

What about this? Every time you plug in your phone to charge it and you come back, you accidentally didn't plug it in.

That's a minor inconvenience. You're going too crazy, I think.

Why is that made? You're saying they can never enjoy a meal again?

What about every time you want to order a drink, your first initial drink that you want, they never have?

You see what you're doing there?

I don't know this curse exists.

I don't mind that. Actually, no, that's annoying.

I don't think that's major. I think that's a good one.

That feels sucks. Every time you try to open up a wine bottle, the cork breaks.

That would be bad.

That is so bad.

I got a, every time you wipe after taking a poop, your finger slips through the paper.

Oh. I feel like that happens to you a lot. Every time you wash your hands, there's no paper towels.

Realistically, what I would give someone I hate probably is they never catch a green light. Always red light.

Have you ever hit a pothole and your car just went, not today?

Yeah.

What about every time you want to watch a show or a streaming service, you have to re-sign in?

Oh, yeah. Oh my God. Like, when you're trying to watch a show, it just always buffering.

Maybe you get a couple spurts, like every two minutes it starts buffering.

That's a good one.

Actually, I could use that.

After like 20 times, I can't keep going.

That's pretty major.

Yeah, a little bit.

It's like you could deal with that.

Every time you try to throw something in the garbage, you miss.

Yeah.

I feel like after the 40th miss, I'd be like, there's something.

You always miss phone calls on the first ring.

Your mom has to call you twice for you to be able to pick it up.

I got just a constant little pebble in your shoe.

You feel it with your tongue, you try to pick it with your finger, like, is this the right tooth?

I just want to give this person just a leak somewhere. Just a tiny little leak.

No, not an internal leak. No, like the faucet. It's just always dripping. A drippy faucet.

I also have one. I have an ant problem right now.

I'd be like, yo, what the fuck? You know what I'd do if it was Joe? I would just say every day you just see a cockroach. In your apartment.

What about every time you have to drive somewhere, you have to stop for gas?

Or just pair it with even train tracks. Every inconvenience on transport happens.

No, I don't think that's enough.

I would say the person who I hate, I would give them every first date at least. If we're keeping first date, they just forget their wallet. Oh my, dude, that's major.

You can pass it.

You don't understand. My coworker I hated cursed me. I forget it every time. I forget it every time.

Every time you pick up a cardboard box, you get a little paper cup.

I would want to think the person I hate is getting it harder than that. A little worse than that.

That's pretty major, no? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just had something. Oh, oh. Every time you set an alarm clock, it doesn't go off.

Every time you take a mode of transportation, you have an overly chatty person next to you.

No, I'm saying planes, you know, all of them. An Uber.

100%.

Dude. Where she pulls it out. Where does she pull it out?

Oh, is that it?

Is it wet?

It'd be like... I don't know why you're...

Yeah.

I am wearing Kim Possible pants right now.

But it was all fun. It was just bros hanging and... It's just pranking the guys.

When they pull it up on the Jumbotron and it's just like, happy birthday to Sue and Ben and Leslie! Ben's got a question. Michelle, will you marry me?

And then backing up and being like, will you marry me right now?

It doesn't go down 6th Avenue?

I've just been firing those off randomly.

I mean, old bag, you know? Now you're so cold. Hell yeah!

I remember back in my day.

Oh, come back to the basement yard, Frank!

Oh. Like, he's got... I'm a sucker for you.

Can you eat wood?

What the hell was that?

I do believe in the sanctity of life. And I think that's why I felt, along with so many other Americans, joy, unfortunately, you know, because it feels like... Joy? Serious? I mean... Joy in a man's execution? Maybe not joy, but certainly not, no, certainly not empathy. Because again... We're watching the footage.

So are the tens of thousands of Americans that are being murdered. So are the tens of thousands of Americans, innocent Americans, who died because greedy health insurance executives like this one push policies of denying care to the most vulnerable people.

I just pissed in my pants.

I'm so cold.

They're probably abducting black people, brainwashing them, and making them slaves.

Have you ever seen a dead dog flopping on down the road?

Watch me dance, dance the night away.

You went away and my heart went with you.

No!

I see.

This candy, it's cheap candy, but I love it ever since I was a kid.

You can't mention this to the Knicks fans. Well, listen. I mentioned last week, I was like, what was the point of trading five firsts for this guy if he's going to shoot 13 times a game? But the other side has been interesting too.

Didn't you think they'd give him the ball more and just run through more stuff on him? I guess the Towns Brunson pick and roll is so good.

Wanted to talk basketball and wanted to talk about the Tyson fight and why NBA ratings are going down as interest seems to be going up. So I have Big Was, I have Van Lathan. They're joining us for part one. And then part two is going to be a football podcast that's going up later tonight after. I want to see what happens with that Eagles-Washington game too. So part two will go up much later.

Wait, can we say one thing about Towns? Sure. He's been kind of a winner of the season because he's been, I think, better offensively than anybody could have ever expected on the Knicks. And then Minnesota feels worse. Minnesota is definitely worse. And it's like, oh, we missed Towns. Like, I feel like this has been a win all the way around for Towns.

And then instead of the Knicks fans being mad at Towns for whatever, they can just now be mad at Bridges.

I do wonder if you stop playing defense for like— you're just on bad teams for two years. I wonder if almost you have to get back in the hang of what it's like to be on a really good team playing defense.

If you truth serum them. I wonder what they would say about the whole Giannis piece of this.

Like we didn't know that this, whatever that Bucks pick, which is so complicated where New Orleans gets it if it's one through four and now Brooklyn gets it if it's everything else. But, I think the Bucks are a 500 or worse team. If anything happens to Giannis for a month, that team's going to be a bottom five team in the league. They're pulling these games out of their assholes.

Well, it's like they've won three games. Well, but the one yesterday... Yeah, that was a miracle. Guy gets fouled with the second left. He just has to go one or two and the game's over and he bricks both of them. And then Giannis wins an OT. Yeah, I just... The next thing, if... if we're going to be rational about it, the Towns thing has been a huge win. All the other stuff is explainable.

Robinson is going to come back. There's probably some sort of buyout guy they can get in February to replace some of the DiFincenzo because it feels like there's a lot on McBride. And then the Brunson, I know he hasn't been quite as good and efficient as last year, but I also feel like it's Teams have been watching this now for a couple years.

It's like Jalen Hurts on the Eagles, where it's like, oh, I know what this is.

Part one's going up early. And let's bring in our friends from Pearl Jam. All right, Big Waz is here. We're taping this 1230 Thursday afternoon. Last time I saw you, we were doing the league pass rankings. Yep. And trying to figure out who we like the most, who we were the most excited to watch. What's changed for you since the season has started? Has there been a team jump out?

Is this a Tibbs team the way it's currently constructed? Or is this a maybe somebody else with the car keys?

Coaches should adjust. Can I do a PSA for the other 29 teams? When the Knicks have the ball with like three seconds or less and they need to score... They're going to throw it to Jalen Brunson in the corner. He's going to pretend to go left, and then he's going to do a follow-away jump shot. I'm just telling you that's what's going to happen.

You can pretend to bite on the going left, but then dive forward when he's doing the turnaround. That's his move. It works every time. Do these guys have tape?

It's like Tatum. Here's what Tatum's going to do. He's going to dribble through his legs seven times. And then when there's two seconds left, he's going to do a step back 26 footer. We know all these moves. LeBron, he has a specific spot on the court. He's going to shoot a three from there. He's going to make you think he's going to the basket.

Yeah. There's some guys that you just, you know what they're going to do. And then there's other guys like Durant where I'm like, I have no idea what he's going to do. Is he going to go right? Is he going to pull up? Is he going to do the turnaround move? Brunson's, yeah.

He's got to be so hard to guard because I think they know what he's doing and he still gets...

You know what I think the secret hardest move is the Luka two-on-one When he slows down and then almost makes it like a low post move. Yeah. Where he's got momentum, but he stops. And the guy's like also playing the pass. And then Luka's just like, I'm just going to bounce off you. Four times against the Warriors the other night.

I don't even know what that move is, but I feel like he's perfected it.

Are you scared of the Cavs?

And he brought Ty Jerome. Because he knew Ty Jerome was good from, like, two years ago. Revelation. It's like when football, when the guy, like, when... the guy Dan Quinn went from Dallas to Washington. He took like a couple of Dallas guys with him. It's like, I know this guy's pretty good. I'll grab this guy too. I'm a hundred percent in on the Cavs being real.

I don't think there's any fluky shit at all. From the first, second, third game, you can see it. I talked about it before, but there's like a charitableness now with Mitchell and Garland. I don't think Mitchell cares if he doesn't have the ball in the last minute anymore. I felt like he did last year. I think Garland did a little bit too.

I just feel like they've sorted out something and then, you know, they can defend. They can switch. They have a bench. As Celtic fan, they're on my radar because I thought we would have the one seed unless somebody got hurt. Now it's like this team's... I think it's going to be tough to steal the one seed from them. You start out 14-0, 15-0. Just think about it logically.

For the rest of the way, you just have to go like... 45 and, you know, 18 or whatever. It's not the same pace to get to 60. And the Celts are going to have trouble getting to 60.

Kenny calls him and he's like, I'm going to optimize your shit. And A, just bear with me, buddy.

It did.

I'm good at very few things. I can spot toupees. I can make meatballs. That's like me with BBLs. I can spot the your turn, my turn. Yeah. I'm just attuned. I've been watching basketball my whole life. You know it when you see it. You know when it's not perfect.

That is a I always believed in my guys. No, I think you can tell the difference between your turn, my turn, competitive versus elevation. And now I feel like those guys elevate each other, which is a boring topic for a podcast or a YouTube video or an NBA content segment, but it's what's happening. That team's playing super unselfish. And then you watch a team like

Has there been somebody that captured your fancy? Has there been a new league pass mistress for you that you didn't expect to be cheating on with some of the other favorites?

you know, like Philly, when Embiid comes back and how they have to navigate. It's going to take some time. How do you take care of Embiid? How do you, how does Paul George make sure he's involved up? Oh, wait, there's Maxie too. Oh, there's Jared McCain who's having, might be the rookie of the year if he could just get playing minutes. How do you navigate all this stuff?

He's got to beat out Eric Gordon. And what happens? Right. And what happens with zombie Nick Nurse? Does he ever turn back into Toronto Nick Nurse or is he just zombie Nick Nurse now?

You're in the Nick Nurse Kool-Aid drinking camp.

Well, here's the thing. Yabasele and McCain are guys who could play in a playoff series. So, you know, when they're operating on the fringes and trying to, you're picking out of the lottery, you're trying to grab, take flyers on dudes, and usually it doesn't work out. And it seems like both of those guys, I feel like, could be in a top seven on a good team.

So, but the Embiid is going to be the big thing. Let's take a break and then I got a couple more things for you. Van Lathan is here. We're going to talk about the NBA Cup because sometimes in basketball, 30 points could be worth more than 30 points. You get 30% profit boost on 30 plus points scores with FanDuel's 30 on 30. Like it.

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Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit rg-help.com. All right, we're back. Van Lathan has joined us. What's up? This is the fun of having an office when people are in there. We're just like, fuck it. Let's turn the mics on and go. You know how I feel about this. Van, you've been preaching this forever.

Pick your 20 hours. It's not a bad idea.

Van loves live bodies to just talk about. He just wants to hop in conversations.

Here I come.

I'm bringing a text thread combo that Van and I were having to Waz about the NBA, about the phenomenon of a league that is having its games watched less, but feels like it matters more. and what's going on. And we all have theories on this. Is the NBA in better, worse, or the same shape?

I know. I really think that's what happened. I thought he hit his hair. I've never seen that before.

So take Mahomes, Kelsey, Lamar, and you would take 40 NBA guys.

Is he as famous as Jalen Brown? Don't think so. No, no, no, he's not.

Oh, don't tell the Laker fans that. They're 7-4. JJ's got this team going. Why do you do this? We beat Scottie Pippen Jr. last night.

I had LeBron. I had LeBron 15.

Yeah, I had Towns 25. Oh, okay.

No, I had Towns 25.

I don't know. Don't you think like you, every single shot. I just want to see the Lakers play Oklahoma City and some of the other good teams. They played Cleveland and lost by 100. The crowd was chanting for Bronny with six minutes left. Nobody's beating Cleveland right now. Wait, can we go back to, you're talking about those three guys. This is what I said to Van on the text thread.

These unicorn situations they had with six guys, Bird, Magic, Michael Jordan, then Kobe, then LeBron, then Curry.

I don't know if we can replicate that with any under 30 American guy in that way. Even the Kobe thing, if Kobe goes to Charlotte instead of the Lakers, what happens to him?

I'm talking about our last six guys that broke through in a real way.

Well, they're afraid to be interesting because it makes them less marketable.

You're talking about room for error, for lack of a better phrase.

Yeah.

This is what Derek Thompson, he came on my pod, I don't know how many months ago, and he was talking about how he's this new breed of NBA fan that loves the NBA but doesn't watch it that much, but loves everything around it and loves following it. My son's like that too. Oh my God.

My son wasn't watching Buck's Pistons last night, but he knows what happened with Giannis, that Giannis had 59 points. And, you know, when I was a kid, I felt like anytime the NBA was on, I was like, oh, my God. The NBA is on the USA Network on Monday night. I'm watching. I can see the bullets. I never get to see the bullets.

SportsCenter in the 90s, you'd watch, you'd come home, come home from drinking. It felt special. 1.30 in the morning, it's like, oh, Craig Kilbourne and Rich Eisen, they're going to tell me what happened in the NBA. I have no idea what happened. Oh, Karl Malone had a 30 and 25. Oh, my God. Mm-hmm. And it just felt, now it's so available and not just the games, but like the players.

I do wonder if that's a piece of it too. Like all these guys have podcasts. There's no mystery with any of them. And then if you feel like you have mystery, you have something like the Netflix show where it's like, I'm not buying this version of you. I know there's more. It's crap. You know what I mean?

I think basketball is better now. I really do. I've been there the whole ride. I'm like amazed by the skills.

Make it more special.

You didn't miss anything. Well, the schedule's too long, too. It's the other piece. And they're never going to change that.

They're 5-7, which sounds like it's bad, but that's the sixth seed right now in the East.

You know, LaMelo's a Van type of player. Oh yeah, for sure. He puts up huge stats, fun highlights, and the wins and losses don't matter. That's Van's wheelhouse. Bill full of shit.

Yeah, fun to watch over winning is Van's mantra.

Oh, we're still doing the Jokic thing. What else?

Give me an example. I'm just saying. I'm grand that you love watching LaMelo. I love watching LaMelo.

I'm with you. I was thinking about it last night, watching that Knicks game. Everything they seemed like they wanted to do on paper, including pick up the pace, play with some pizzazz, it's all happening. I think they're a really, really frisky 5-7 team. And Levine, yeah, I get it. He was upset about whatever he's got. I don't know what he's upset about. He's certainly got an amazing contract.

But we didn't talk about one of the things we were talking about in the text thread is if your best players in your league are all foreign. That's a problem. What is the history of people connecting with foreign players in America? Because like, I loved Hakeem. Hakeem was amazing to see in person. He was fucking awesome. He was a badass.

Like he would, there's videos you'll see on Twitter or just be like, Hakeem punches a guy. Like he was like a badass. There's multiple videos of him just like turning around and just popping somebody. He was the Draymond of his day. He was like amazing to watch. He was an amazing defensive player. He was the best low post player of his generation. And people are like, ah, Hakeem's boring.

It's like, I don't, Giannis, Luka, Embiid.

This is good.

I'm trying to think, what would be the best town or city for Luka to be in if his name was like Luke Doncher?

He'd be like, oh, did you see what Luke did last night?

North Carolina superstar Drake Bang.

Yeah.

They suck.

Jokic's story is really interesting.

But you watched him last night against the Knicks. And my thought was, this is actually a great situation for him. He's got guards that push the ball that are pretty, Giddey's pretty unselfish, right? Kobe White, I don't think is like a Trey Young monopolized the ball type guy. And just seems like Levine's in a nice spot.

If AJ lands on the right team, AJ DeBansa, a year from now, you might be the guy. Because I feel like it has to be a wing. This is, Wemby has two problems. Centers have never resonated with people. We talked about that with the Nike contract. It's like nobody has ever been like, oh, I got, like when I was a kid in the late 70s, we weren't like, oh, I gotta get Kareem's shoe.

Or like, oh, I got to get you in.

Shaq was a huge star. But Shaq from a shoe standpoint. No, it wasn't a thing. And also, like, I was there for Shaq. Shaq was pretty polarizing for the 90s. How do you mean? He's just like, people were like, eh, like, why are you making so many movies? Why aren't you in shape all the time? Why did you leave Orlando after four years?

No, I get it. But people felt in the moment, and they weren't right, but people felt in the moment, like, why does he care about all this other stuff? Why isn't he just trying to win titles? And then he had the MVP season and it flipped.

And today's NBA players aren't comfortable with that. So do we need heels in the NBA? Maybe that's a piece of it. You definitely need heels in the NBA. That's Jimmy Butler. It's sitting there for him right now.

Draymond tried to do it and it just made people mad. He's a great heel.

He's at this point now because I really like watching the Warriors this year where he had his arm flailed and almost hit this guy in OKC or whatever the team the other day. It's like, no, no, Draymond. No, don't ruin this. No, please. It's the best. But do you think Wemby could be the biggest star in the league as a 7'5 French guy?

And what stuck out to me yesterday, they win the game on that weird Kobe White foul. get the Brunson toilet bowl in and out to win it. But you watch the way their bench was celebrating. It actually seems like they liked each other. Last year did not.

One thing that he has, and I think Edwards has too, and I've seen this happen over the years is, When we really want it to happen for somebody. Because you really felt this when Jordan retired and there was that whole, it was like we were auditioning the next star. Oh, my God. It was like, would you like to have Grant Hill?

How about this T-Mac character? Vince Carter. Vince Carter. And then Kobe, I feel like starting in the 2000 finals, kind of grabbed it. And then Vince, all of a sudden, that one year when he went ahead to head against Iverson, I was like, oh, could he grab it? Iverson, even though I think he had his base, but I still feel like it would have been really hard in 2001 for him to become the guy.

He was like a belated, after the fact, people appreciated him more.

Edwards is our big hope.

But then the flip side of everybody is like, hey, KD... Can you stop being so out there? Can you get offline?

I like it too. We need more of that.

Like almost to his own detriment a lot of the time.

Larry Bird, bar fight during the 1985 playoffs, hurt his hand. Yeah. Shooting went south. One of the reasons we lost the title. I was like, what if that happened now? Yeah. It's like, oh yeah, Anthony Edwards got in a bar fight and now Minnesota's out of the playoffs.

Oh, I thought you were going another direction.

The number one thing to me that tells me that that's not going to happen is the schedule, which I've talked about a million times in this podcast. The fact that it's 82 games and not 72. Or 72 even. Like, that they don't care. They have too much of their product.

They love the inventory. And it's too much. It's way too much. It's just night after night. There's eight games, nine games, ten games. None of them. You never know what's special, what's not special.

Late 2000s.

Yeah. I also think, I talked about this Tuesday, I think that sport's much harder to play and it's a big reason why these guys are getting injured.

But the thing is, they just paid them more money for the games. Yeah. Like, they...

Think how good the 72 would be right now with like Philly's situation. Where it's like, holy shit, they're two and nine in the 72 game season. Like, this is dangerous now. They can't fuck around. They, you know, they could be like the number 10 playing team.

I have never, I've asked so many people and there's some people in the league who've really pushed for it. Like Steve Kerr is like a massive advocate for it. And he's like written letters and all this stuff. And, There's no answer other than, nah, we don't want to give up the money. That's it. It's 100% money.

You know what's crazy about that? I was thinking about that the other day because it feels like it happened 130 years ago and it was four years ago. We were putting cardboard cutouts of fans in the stands. Not only did we not have fans in the stands, we were pretending to have fans in the stands.

Like that Stallone Cobra thing behind Van's shoulder there. And it was like totally normal. That's how desperate we were for basketball. Let's take a break. We got to talk to Mike Tyson. All right. Mike Tyson against one of the Paul brothers. Which Paul brother is it? Jake. Jake Paul.

Wes, are you old enough to remember early Tyson?

What do you remember of early Tyson?

That's my memory as well. Although I was older, but it was Sports Illustrated cover, HBO fights, This Is Must Watch. Saw literally every Tyson fight. Everyone cared the most about his fights versus really anything else in sports except maybe like the Super Bowl. That's crazy. And I don't know, the audience doesn't match up with that, but just...

Wait, hold on on Zach Levine. Sure. Because I want to talk about the Knicks. I was thinking about him, Brandon Ingram. Yeah. I think Trey Young's about to be in this boat. These guys that got these big deals. Julius Randle. These guys that are being paid like they're superstars. They do put up production and yet there's not a market for them. And it's because of the second apron.

And nobody liked Larry Holmes.

The middleweights and the welterweights took over for half the decade.

But it wasn't just the buzzsaw. It was the way he talked. It was how weird he was. He was just the most compelling person. His interviews after the fight, he would just use crazy words and had this weird empathy for somebody who he just sent their nose through their forehead.

I remember that. Well, the girl pay-per-view is what pushed her over the top. He knocked him out in 91 seconds. And everybody was like, that was one of the early, Hey, whose house are we going to? Which is now a staple of how we watch sports back then. It was like, who's getting the fight. Are we all chipping in? What are we doing for food?

And then my mom, I don't even think had brought down the nachos yet. I had 12 people in the basement. And we're all like, yeah, the fight's over, but the food's still coming, right? It was just done. That was the only thing. Spinks was terrified.

Remember the deer in the headlights looking Spinks?

And my daddy like, uh-huh. And then hit him with the second, the punch that ended it was one of the single hardest punches in the history of boxing. And he's gone. It's over. He's moving forward like it's like in Roadhouse just to like clear him out.

The thing with Mike was he was involved in four, I remember where I was when I watched it, sporting events, which is like, I think he might have the record for me. Because it was that Spinks fight. It was getting knocked out by Douglas, which is still... Holyfield the ear. Both Holyfield fights. The first fight was incredible. We had that at my house. We had that party.

Still thought he was going to beat Holyfield. So that's the mic that's in my mind. And then the ear was also insane.

Peter McDowell.

Holyfield was a cruiserweight who had moved up to heavyweight. He'd lost to Moore. Yeah.

Kurt Goldsberg was talking about in my pod on Tuesday. It's just, it's changed the dynamic of roster building of how we think about players. We take somebody like Brandon Ingram who was available all summer for anybody who wanted to offer anything and they couldn't trade him. Now he's scoring 23, 24 a game. Zach Levine, same thing.

The fights were awesome though. They were. Even the Gulotta fight.

The way he would move side to side and the combos, like that guy... Cussing Tilly Atlas.

You know what was another amazing thing about his arc was living it in real time, watching somebody like fly too close to the sun. And as even the mistakes aren't even done yet. And you just kind of knew her. Like once he started dating Robin Givens, it was like, this isn't going to go well for anybody.

Oh boy.

And we're moving into this new era of these guys that it's like, well, this is my price. I don't want to pay that. I'm stuck with you. But you're still producing.

But he even said that. He said, I didn't do this, but there's some other stuff. So we're probably even.

I don't remember another era like this. The only time I could think was that 2000s when guys were getting those six, seven year deals. And you would just be like, I guess we have Allen Houston now for the entire decade.

You know what I think it is? Jalen and I interviewed him once when I was at Grantland. We did a pod with him and it was like, it was like a thrill. It was like really, it was so cool to just shoot the shit with him. And I might even said this to him on the pod, but I always felt like he was one of the most self-aware athletes that I ever followed.

He was somebody that you would have thought was a complete disaster and he was, but he was also completely painfully aware of all his faults, all his mistakes, all the issues he had and could talk about it. Which I don't, I can't even think of anybody. Iverson, I think, has a little bit of that too.

There's an interest, self-introspection that was always unusual about him. Even as it was like, I'm talking Robin Givens era all the way through. He always kind of knew, I remember writing a column about it once about, he kind of became the Tony Montana say hello to the bad guy character because he kind of knew that was how society saw him. He was like, yeah, say hello to me. I'm the bad guy.

Say crazy shit. That was nuts.

His crazy run was the craziest.

By any athlete.

So in my column, I created the Tyson zone, which was when somebody acts so consistently crazy that you'll just believe any story. And Charlie Sheen entered that. Kanye definitely. Oh my God. You know, there's certain people where you're like, I'll believe any story now.

That's my favorite. That was the best one. Yeah. We went the first year of Jimmy's show. We went to go. He was the guest host. And we went to, he had like this pigeon coop in Harlem. And I went with uncle Frank. I was like the writer. And we spent, I don't know how long, on the rooftop just watching Mike flew pigeons. And he was so sad and so traumatized by his whole life.

But he could also talk about it. And he really connected with Uncle Frank. And it was this really cool five-minute video we got out of it. But even that, I was like, why is he even letting us up here? It was like he wanted to...

Like all these boxers, you hit that point. He hit that in the Douglas fight. He had two people in his corner. You think he wins tomorrow? Phil doesn't think so. What do you think? I'm going to look at the odds while you talk about this.

He's 58 years old, which is just like... Waz was asking, could he just like die if he got punched in the heart? Like how... I think he's going to be okay.

He's not bad.

This isn't Screech from Saved by the Bell.

People have been asking me, do you think people are going to watch this fight or are people going to care? And I'm like, people are 1,000. First of all, it's on Netflix, which is the single most important channel we have now. It's a Friday night. People are going to get together. Somebody's going to get it. It's super easy to queue up Netflix at whoever's house or whatever bar.

People are going to care. I actually think people are going to care Way more than I think people realize.

I just can't. The man is 60. I can't believe, like, I was watching Mike Tyson fight in the mid-'80s, followed by something like Erotic Thriller on HBO, and it was, like, the greatest night.

Emmanuel Queen of the Desert.

Oh, the Hitchhiker's on. And now 40 years later, he's still doing it. Bill is watching Emmanuel in space. Yeah.

I think he's an elite celebrity boxer.

To me, it speaks to more the evolution of celebrity boxing, which was in the 90s and 2000s where we would put like Screech against Rorschach and we were ready to go.

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Wise, are you familiar with Bacoli?

He's from, he's Congolese.

Okay. I'll just give you the one sentence sell job. Congolese Ernie Shavers meets 1974 George Foreman. Wow. That's Bacoli.

Yes.

Nobody wants to fight this guy. He literally cannot get fights.

Yeah.

The Saudis threw him a ton of money. They're like, will you fight Bacoli? He said, no. And they're like, here's a lot of money. And he's like, all right. And he got absolutely like his career has been altered.

Like, Bacoli is skilled. Yeah, no, but it's... Ultimately, when somebody can just... And you just see the other guy moving backwards and it's like he's getting hit by a tornado. And then it became. And so now after that, he can't get a fight. He's my number one. I just want to see him fight. I'd watch him fight every two months. Jump on the bandwagon once.

He's going to kill somebody. All right. Mike Tyson. So we're all watching. Yep. Kyle, are you watching?

All right.

You can go now that LSU season's over. You can start going to bars on Saturday.

Now you have Jaden Daniels. You just transfer all your love to Jaden Daniels for his Washington playoff run.

I don't like this at all.

You could give me... Maybe they play better. This is a better podcast for another time, but if you told me, what is college sports in 10 years, I'm prepared for 100 scenarios. Yeah. He'd literally tell me anything. You tell me it's like a 10 college league and everyone else is D3, and I believe that.

I can't say it's great. Wow, it's great to see you. Same. Van, great to see you. Thanks for coming on. All right, that's it for the podcast. Thanks to Cochran and Steve Cerutti for producing, as always. Thanks to Van Lathan and Big Waz, Wazney Lambre. Stay tuned for part two. It's coming later tonight. I'll see you there.

And we were like, he's not good. And he was like one of the rookie of the year. It's like, well, he's 20 points a game. Exactly. You know, this is a really interesting point. Can you have tanking when there's too much talent in the league? Because I think about that with Brooklyn. I watched Brooklyn. I saw them in person on Friday. I talked about it on the pod. Watched them yesterday.

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The Celtics played really well and beat them. And they played one of their best games. But I watched Brooklyn. I'm like, I know they wanted to be terrible. It's going to be really hard to be terrible with some of the guys in this team. Like Schroeder is a above average point guard. Cam Johnson's good. Cam Thomas is a 28 a game guy. Now they have shop walking.

This is not like in 2013, 14, when you could just be like, yeah, we're going to throw a year away. Like think about what the Lakers had. during the last couple Kobe years where it was like, here's Kobe and nobody else.

Do you think it's social media? Like, I wonder if it's just hard to suck now because if you suck... With the fantasy and the everyday gambling aspect, that might play a part, man. I feel like it's social media because I was thinking about this. Vince Carter got his... Number retired in Toronto. And I was just thinking how fucking crazy that is. Yeah. That way he started.

Cause I was writing for ESPN back then and he completely tanked on them that year to the point that. I was reading those columns. Yeah. He tightened on the point that the trade that they made for him is probably the worst superstar trade anyone's made. They had to like take back Alonzo Mourning's contract and a couple other bad contracts. They got two shitty picks.

It was like a 20 cents in the dollar giveaway. And it was because he stopped playing for them. But we didn't have the apparatus we have now to be like, oh my God, did you see what Vince Carter did last night? Like he just didn't give a shit. I don't feel like anybody can do that now.

Like, nobody's had... I guess the dog shit team has probably been Philly.

sorry Chris Ryan but yeah they stink but there's a reason for it no there's a reason for it but they still stink yeah they've been they've been god awful well think about the other day JJ D'Angelo Russell had that play in the corner and whatever he did he got his three pointer blocked he did some stupid step back And the camera showed JJ so fucking mad.

And he sat down and he just sat in his thing. And he was like a parent mad at a kid. And even that, so now he's like, well, that'll never happen again because he just saw the video of it. It became a big deal the next day. He's like, I can't do that anymore. I just think there's a lot of checks and balances now for bad basketball, lazy basketball, lethargic basketball. People don't give a shit.

People going through the motions. I don't know if you can do it anymore.

They're like lying in bed with the shades dry.

Yeah, they're like, oh man, can you go get me some Advil?

I'm going to read you something that 2013 14 Sixers. Damn. Leading scorer, Evan Turner. Wow. Michael Carter-Williams, your rookie of the year, shooting 264 from three and 40% from the field. Thad Young was our number three. Spencer Hawes. Oh, my. Number five, James Anderson playing 29 minutes a game, 80 games. Who was James Anderson? I don't know.

Uh, Henry Sims. Uh, Tony Rotten?

Tony Rotten?

Hollis Thompson? LaVoy Allen was their ninth man? This is our point. Yeah. You look at the ninth man now in the Nets. The game I went to Friday, like Jalen Wilson's coming, I'm like, this guy's good.

Oh, yeah.

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a young Chris Middleton third Ilya Sova John Henson OJ Mayo Larry Sanders, hey now, playing 20 games, but man. And then Young Giannis was just, that was great for Young Giannis.

They kicked me out the league for this. Yeah, so if you think about the actual bad teams... Toronto is probably like fundamentally the worst team, but then Scottie Barnes can come back and who knows?

Yeah. They can rebound. They can shoot threes. The other thing is we didn't talk about the threes. Like this is the first season. The threes are 40% of the shots that everyone takes. Yeah. That's just the variance that comes from that. You just never know.

You were going to mention the Knicks. What about them? I miss last year's Knicks. I miss Hartenstein. I miss Dante. Yeah. They were just more fun to watch last year. And I know they'll figure it out. Yeah. The Towns has been incredible. Brunson's not been as good. Yep. They're five at the end of games, which it seems like it's a little better offensively, but it's definitely worse defensively.

Yeah. The rim protection isn't there in the same way. And there's a bunch of it. Now that we have a sample size, some of the advanced stats are like, huh, this isn't really the profile of a tips team. No. So what are you seeing?

And then recently I've had my partner, this best friend, and through them I've also met 20 people who are identified as non-binary, which is just like, I'm not that, I'm not that, so I just am. I don't know, it's, I feel like them, you know what I mean? I feel like that group of people. You're just who you are. I just am.

I just don't want to say it and then realize that it's not and take away from people who are.

Go for it.

Well, close your eyes.

Yeah, you have to cover it.

How about you? How about me? How about my notes? That was great. Goosebumps. I like to be directed. I like to be led.

What's that?

You had the chicken bacon ranch. I had the Italian.

I'm glad it would have been more like your ally.

Everything is Dan's fault.

Also a white guy from Boston.

Football's different, though.

Yeah, football's different.

Wow. Yeah. It's a success that makes the name. The Bood. Belichick. The Bood.

This is the only audience that doesn't respect him at all. No, they respect him, but they know he's got deficiencies in other places.

They're just there to just bully him at all stops. He is so respected elsewhere.

Ja, ich habe es. Du nicht? Gib mir noch ein paar Momente. Das Gold-Metal-Spiel gegen Kanada. Ich habe Lake Placid, eine kleine Stadt, die ich Lake Placid nennen mag. Der 96. Weltcup-Hockey.

Das wäre toll.

Ich bin gut, danke. Okay.

That's how you do it, Billy.

Ja, auf jeden Fall. Lead Briscoe, vielen Dank.

Oh, oh, oh, oh.

How do you know that exact date? You don't know. You don't know how to do anything. How do you know that exact date? You weirdo.

We start with laughter and then eventually you just get enraged and start screaming at me in front of everybody. It happens every time. And the audience is tired of how abusive you are to me.

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Yeah.

Yeah.

I wish I could see that.

It's terrible. The audio is great. Yeah.

This is the Don Labatar Show with the Stoogads.

You can't do this. You cannot.

We have confirmed that Rusty Staub did die that day, and we actually have sound. Billy was in the stadium on the phone with our show when this home run happened.

Jose Ureña standing at the back of the mound. He reaches down. He's rubbing some dirt and rosin on his hands, and here we go. Now he's writing something on the mound with his fingers next to the logo. I can't see what he's writing. All right. Oh, here we go. And the windup and the pitch. Oh, God. A home run on the first pitch of the season.

Oh, my God. Welcome, Derek Jeter. And that concludes our Marlins coverage for the season.

The best part is you could so clearly hear the bat on the ball. Yeah.

Tim, I want to ask you, I know how much you love pitching matchups. You look every day to find little word plays with the pitching matchups. I want you to remind the people how excited you got when the Dodgers played the Nationals and it was Dustin May versus Mackenzie Gore.

Oh, God, this is so bad. Tim, always good to be able to talk baseball with you. If you had to bet who is better at getting something done for their friend, would it be Stugatz or Dan?

I mean, all those things. The final out thing. He knows what every baseball card looked like. He could tell you the umpire's number.

I hope he gets this wrong. He's thinking about it. I don't need to think about it.

I'm not going to take a quiz. Look, this is his angry side again. When he doesn't know something, he lashes out, and all of a sudden he gets defensive. We get it. You don't know. August 9, 1993. Okay.

Because you're imagining him doing it in his suit?

Quick aside, just to close the loop. My father-in-law often told me I look like Rusty Staub.

What's Buck Showalter's birthday? Huh.

He was more confident, too.

Oh, my God. What is that picture, Zas? Yeah, that's pretty close. That was after a Panther loss in the Stanley Cup playoffs. I know exactly what it was.

You were the cow at a moment.

We have a few submissions here, Tim. Tim, have you ever sent food back at a restaurant?

I didn't know that.

Useless. I was looking for white guys.

Well, he remembers a lot of them. People walk up.

We had one of those.

Tim, three hours, three times a week you're driving for that?

Tim, what's something the first few weeks of the season that you think you're second guessing? I thought this going into the year, but now I've seen something and I'm thinking differently about it.

Are the Braves struggling the biggest surprise of the season? I'm sorry? Is the Braves struggling so far early in the season the biggest surprise?

Hey, Tim, always a pleasure to be able to talk baseball with you. Have you ever asked a friend to help you get tickets or something?

Minor penalty, two minutes for lying.

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The worst part of the life of what?

Classic duck. He's just a guy, I believe is what he called him. Just a guy.

What did you say about Indiana basketball?

See, fat Dan never. You never played the game, Dan. You didn't. Crumb stains.

Game time definitely has the best deal. No. See, that's the thing.

I get what you're trying to say, Dan.

That's correct. It's easier. The add-on ask is easier than just a different ask. Yeah, but Dan doesn't want Zaslo sitting next to him and his wife.

The best! He's the guy, as soon as the music starts, he calls out what song it is. Oh, that's this song. It's playing right here. Alive.

Dan, you don't know how rare this song is.

Nice to know Dan has a guy, though. I'm going to keep that in my back pocket for a rainy day. I'm not likely to ask on your behalf. You're way down. I'll tell you. Just in my back pocket. Dan, it's for my daughter. She really wants to go. I wish I knew that during Taylor Swift time.

People think that about me, so I can just imagine for you.

Who's the most shameless person that asks you the most that you never ask for?

Two Americas, am I right, Roy? Yep. We don't know, Seth.

Yeah. No check bags, though, right?

Just picture your indifferent Uber driver just like, I don't care, man.

You know when you know your Uber driver knows what he's doing? It's when he's at a traffic light and he's looking ahead in traffic. He's scanning on the map. He's like, what other routes can we take here? He's planning. He's not following ways. He's like, I know these streets. He knows the shortcuts.

I feel like the door closing of an airplane is not as dramatic as they make it seem in movies. Like in Home Alone, there's like that scene where the door is shutting.

And Mitch Marner has zero shots in the last two games.

Also a lot of inner thigh in his promo for it.

Oh. So I just noticed that the audio I sent you on that first one, completely horrid. So we're going to do this one. I hope it sounds better. This is Cynthia, by the way. Hey, Cynthia. Hi. Ready for Cynthia. So yeah, really, we'll sing it again right now. Really, it goes...

Yeah, I don't know why the audio on the other one came out so bad. Probably because of Bluetooth. and cars, and now I know not to do that. So thank you for being the guinea pig. All right, have a good one.

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Absolutely.

The arms race in NIL for softball is insane.

Is he American? Yeah. Mackie Samuskiewicz. No, there's no way.

Mackie?

They literally worked on that play in training camp, Dan.

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Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys?

I've done it. And now, here's the marching band to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.

Yeah. No, I completely feel that wholeheartedly. And actually, we're here right now in Miami at Unrivaled. I mean, why was this the right place for you to be right now?

Yeah.

Can I guess one?

Ryan? Ryan?

And she got size.

Right.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

Are you enjoying the three-on-three format? Do you think you shine more here or more in a five-on-five?

Period.

Yeah.

Do you ever get nervous?

When, like right before the game?

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah. I know you're happy to see Shakira healthy.

Yeah. Because game recognize game.

How about us?

I have an award for Pablo for starting the show with an interesting and new take on the Luka Doncic trade. That's not sarcasm. It was good job. Good job.

Okay, back to what you were saying, because I saw that quote too, and I thought it was real, and I was really embarrassed for 10 seconds, and now I'm unembarrassed. But I also thought, Dan, if he were here...

Although I am taller than 65 inches. By a lot? Yeah. If you're 65 inches, then yes.

We need to give David an award.

Hey!

Great show.

This shirt only comes tucked. It's a bodysuit. It takes a very long time for me to pee now.

Award to the NFL for solving racism. Yes. They did it.

Juju, was Asia Wilson a hard launch? That was like a medium soft launch, right? Yeah.

No jump shots. Oh, yeah.

Really?

Weren't those trampoline parks, like... Yeah. People are just tearing ligaments left and right.

Knock on wood, I've taken my daughter to those trampoline parks, never seen an ambulance. And there's always hundreds of kids.

Never seen an ambulance.

They just put them straight in the hearse. I would think once a day, someone's tearing something and there's an ambulance coming.

That's a place where you're signing waivers, though, right, Chris?

Oh, yeah. You're not suing them. There's a whole line for the waiver part before you get to the pay part.

Not fun. They have six ACLs. Kids thing is fun for adults. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh.

I do like doing Papa Shot of Chuck E. Cheese. I do like an arcade, because I can do, let me get the card for a second.

At the trampoline park, I take my daughter to. They have, like, an American gladiator thing where you walk out on, like, the thing and you're battling with someone. Some aggressive. That's always where I'm at, just watching those kids. The parents are getting mad at other parents' kids. Like, he's hitting. You're supposed to push. I got you over there with.

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He's a red Fanta guy.

I don't like when adult sports fans bark.

What's the setting that it's appropriate?

I mean, if kids do it, I'm not going to be like, oh, like, well, I don't like kids.

So maybe I would.

And in reality, though, maybe 18, maybe we'll just say the cough is college age. I don't know. It's like Georgia games, Browns games. Like, those are the places where you get barked at the most.

This isn't like a surprise to anyone.

I think if kids do it.

Yeah. Charlie.

Three-point stance guy. At a bar.

Wait, at a bar? What's he say?

He's getting into a stance at a bar? Hand in the dirt. Stop it. It rules. Jessica...

I'm trying to think who would embarrass me. Go ahead. I'm not embarrassed by my three-point stance.

Yeah, he's not embarrassed. This is why there's a male loneliness epidemic.

This is why there's only been a year.

They're doing three-point stances at the bar.

Let's heat him up. It's third down. We got to get a stop. It was real tough in that NFC Championship game against the Eagles. He continued to get into the three-point stance. One sack fumble away.

His hand is on the floor. That's what I'm imagining.

Is it on the bar? Is it on the three-point stance? The floor.

The floor. He's doing it on the floor. Yeah. It's like sticky.

If I'm you, I'm calling offsides every single time.

That's actually a great idea. I wonder how he would have reacted to that.

Offsides!

His wife was very pregnant. His pregnant wife was there while this was going on? She was delighted that he was at the bar in a three-point stand with me instead of at home with her. Wait, did he do that at home?

I can't confirm or deny that. Of course he does it at home. Exactly.

I was actually interpreting this differently. I thought this was a good luck thing. He's like, this is what I have to do now on third down. All along, I was like,

I actually just think, like, I just think he loves ball. I'm not even kidding. I don't think there's anything deep like that.

I do a less extreme version. Like, I'll stand up on a big third down, on my couch, where you're just like, I'm excited, like, alright, come on, we need this. We need this right here. Standing's weird. But I'm not, like, getting in a football stance. The antsy hands is a little weird, but... The antsy hands?

Chris, getting up and standing up is not the same as getting into a 3.4.

What does your friend do?

Let's go. I've been that guy before.

In the stands on third down, you stand up. Come on, guys. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. It's big right here. Big one right here. You just want to kind of inspire other people around you. We need you, man.

You don't think the three-point stance is inspiring?

No, it is. At a bar, it's just a lot. The hand down on the gross bar floor, he's trying. Charlie, does he do it at games?

Can you sort of do it for us? Because how is he sort of down but still can see the high up TVs at the bar? How is he able to focus?

His hips are open. Good athlete. How's his butt? Oh, strong.

The three-point stance does stand out more. Because if I was doing a middle linebacker stance, it's just kind of like squatting with your hands on your knees.

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We were just doing it before. He's got to be a Fanta drinker, right? You've got to like Fanta. Your name's Fanta.

That's what we would have done if Dan were here. Start out on an awkward note.

So we've contacted him. I'm not sure if he's joining us, but maybe next hour.

Taylor lost the race.

my team's from florida babe panthers going all the way the five six one repping today yeah yeah yeah you know we're about to watch some hockey then i realize it's not fair cause your faith relies on that man

Yeah, you've mentioned that a few different times. Yes, you said that. Let's get to Juju here. You really didn't have a rebuttal, though, for the fact that you would admit, Zaz, right, that your sartorial splendor is somewhat limited and probably a great frustration to your wife and people who love you.

Juju, thank you for joining us. Good seeing you. What's the commentary? Surely you heard us fall into the quicksand with Chris Cody on Wedding Garters, and you must have enjoyed that.

I believe that Zaslow critiquing your wardrobe is not something that anyone had coming today. Zaslow calling anyone underdressed or poorly dressed when I am certain that there are items of clothing in his closet that are older than Greg Cody. Grandfathered in, you shouldn't be calling anybody a bum.

It's been settled. Chris Cody felt very alone. The Piranha were circling on him. Billy had a lot of very strong opinions. Amin was very judgy.

Juju, do you have any, now that Amin is giving a Tuesday television recommendation, do you have any television recommendations for us? We will spoil the rehearsal tomorrow.

What do you have for us in terms of a joker of the day? Do we have a joker of the day?

What else you got from basketball? Any Golden State opinions?

Have the guts to- He's daring him. He's daring him to be the center of the story and eject him.

Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at Levitard Show. Is the best time to speed just after you got a speeding ticket? Because I've gotten two speeding tickets, right? Yeah, by two different police officers. In the same drive? Yeah, like the- No way. Yes, because school zone. Yes, because the second thing was the school zone. The same school zone? No, no, no. I don't want to talk about it.

Oh, it's awful.