Guest 4
Appearances
Club Random with Bill Maher
Andrew Schulz | Club Random
Do you get a warped sense of like— That doesn't mean you can rape them.
Club Random with Bill Maher
Andrew Schulz | Club Random
No kidding. Yeah. You can't say that. What a threat. Yeah, exactly. You could suck my dick? Right.
Club Random with Bill Maher
Andrew Schulz | Club Random
I mean, I'm on CNN now. Yeah. And they don't, when they said, can we put you on CNN?
Club Random with Bill Maher
Andrew Schulz | Club Random
I said the entire Middle East. So if I... Okay, so here's the thing.
Club Random with Bill Maher
Andrew Schulz | Club Random
It's not going to be a black t-shirt. Zelinsky pulled up looking like a yoga instructor.
Club Random with Bill Maher
Andrew Schulz | Club Random
I mean, just that extra bit. Like the editor of Vogue coming onto this podcast talking shit about my pants.
Club Random with Bill Maher
Andrew Schulz | Club Random
But if you're growing up in Greenland, you don't want to be part of America?
Club Random with Bill Maher
Andrew Schulz | Club Random
Well, because if you say something... I'm making... No, I know.
Club Random with Bill Maher
Andrew Schulz | Club Random
No, no, I don't want to do that. No, no, I do want to. Okay, okay, okay.
Club Random with Bill Maher
Andrew Schulz | Club Random
About hours trying to get a girl pregnant. You're out there trying to fucking boycott. But you did finally get it done. We got that.
Club Random with Bill Maher
Andrew Schulz | Club Random
You know what I'm saying? Because even though you should be able to say that.
REAL AF with Andy Frisella
830. Andy & DJ CTI: Trump's Official Inauguration, Georgia State Senator Assaulted And Arrested & Pope Francis Resistance To Immigration
Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.
REAL AF with Andy Frisella
830. Andy & DJ CTI: Trump's Official Inauguration, Georgia State Senator Assaulted And Arrested & Pope Francis Resistance To Immigration
Yep.
REAL AF with Andy Frisella
830. Andy & DJ CTI: Trump's Official Inauguration, Georgia State Senator Assaulted And Arrested & Pope Francis Resistance To Immigration
Yeah.
The Ben Shapiro Show
Ben Shapiro’s Most OVERRATED Films
You have a gift, Jack. You do. You see people.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
Yeah. I mean, yeah, the Carl Towns rim protection, we knew that was going to be a problem coming into the season. And we just talked about this on group chat with Rob and Justin. Mikael Bridges is getting smoked on defense. He's just not been a deterrent at all. And again, OG Ananopi.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
I think the scoring is going to come. I think he's going to learn what spots to pick, when to attack, when to just let it fire.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
They can't afford to because their defense is so bad. If you're getting cooked... You kind of have to look at your best player and say, yo, we need points right now. If they were stopping people, then they would be a lot more patient about who gets to do what on offense.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
But when you're constantly having to put out fires because you just gave up 10 points in a row, at a certain point it is, you got to give it to Brunson. What I'm encouraged by is that The Towns and Brunson pick and roll is clearly difficult to deal with. It's a nightmare. They're putting defenses in a bind because Brunson, unlike a lot of these star point guards, can be the center on a switch.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
Like Halliburton's been having trouble with it this year. Brunson, as soon as you put a big man on him, he's killing that guy. And if you, God forbid, you drop on freaking Carl Towns, like that's a nightmare. And so I like that that's already started to figure itself out.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
So he wins in every way. Look, I think the Bridges thing is everybody's in a patient wait-and-see moment. It's been 11 games. I'm not crazy worried about it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
It's not just that, though. It's like when guys start conceiving themselves as 20-point-per-game scorers, And all of a sudden it's like, no, you're back to being that role guy that you were in Phoenix. And it's like, no, I was a ball in Brooklyn. I was like a wave guy. Can I show you a YouTube clip of my game winners? No, he got to get back to what he was doing in Phoenix for sure.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
I know you saw the, and I know you saw the graphic last night where they like showed all of the picks that the Knicks sent out to bring Bridges in. A couple of them were like good picks. decent.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
And he's learning how to play a new way. Like, this is a completely reconstructed offense, like, that he hasn't been completely comfortable yet. I don't think it's the biggest deal. I just think it's scary that, like, missing Mitchell Robinson and Precious Achua is this damaging to you.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
your team like that's a that's a bad sign so far but again I think it's pretty early and right now the 20th in defensive efficiency just stunning down to 13 but that's the bigger question is is this the right tips team
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
I mean, I think if Tibbs is worth what he thinks he is, then he needs to also adjust. Players have to adjust.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
It's tough in the moment, Bill.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
The accurate step back.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
He's going to try to create space with a little shoulder face.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
He's got a little Luka in him in terms of the stop and start. He's not the fastest, but he can get accelerated faster than everybody else and decelerate faster than everybody else. Yeah, it's not easy from the couch, Bill. That's what they would tell you.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
And I'm like, that's Tremont Green, one of the best defensive players in my life. And he can't even stop it. It is weird.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
The Cavs? Man, listen. I know, like, every single smart NBA person, you guys included on the over-unders, had the Cavs over Kenny Atkinson winning coach of the year. And I was like, yeah, they're going to play better. They're going to be way healthier this year. But, like, I don't know. They kind of took off last year when their guys weren't playing. But Kenny Atkinson has been smart about...
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
Deploying the lineups, letting Mobley play center at times, being the lone big. He's gotten these guys to understand the importance of spacing. And they're like Niang, for instance. This guy is completely unconscious. He shoots with the green light of a freaking Kevin Durant at certain points. And Donovan Mitchell... God bless him.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
He's getting off of the ball a lot faster than he has at any other time in his career. That's always been my biggest criticism of him is that he doesn't see the floor as well as a lot of the guys that I think are a little bit better than him. But this year, he's seeing it. They're believing it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
And I think there's something to everybody feeling like they have ownership of the offense, which Atkinson, You know, he spent some time in Golden State with Steve Kerr. We make fun of Steve Kerr a lot of times with his hippy-dippy, like, the ball finds energy shit. But Atkinson has brought it... Hippy-dippy. That's what it feels like to me.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
It feels like he's on a commune when he's saying some of that stuff. But, like, Atkinson has brought that ethos to Cleveland, and they've been way better for it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
And if you look at the Eastern Conference standings right now, a lot of teams are going to have trouble getting to 50. It's crazy how these things flip because... You know, there was all this smoke around Donovan Mitchell for years that he was not going to, he was not long for Cleveland.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
He ends up doing his extension. Shams puts out that report that Garland's representation might seem to trade.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
If Mitchell's still on the team because he feels like he's not being optimized. They bring in Kenny Atkinson and... Shit, man. Everything sort of flips and everybody has this level of buy-in. It's just so crazy how things can turn on a dime in this league.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
They've bought in and they look so much better for it. And like I said, Before, it did feel like a your turn, my turn situation.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
With Mitchell and Garland, where I'm just like, man, these guys have complimentary games. They both can shoot. Both can drive it. They should be elevating what each other do. And this is the first time in that partnership that I actually feel like it's happening and it's been exciting to watch.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
Look at when Tatum and Brown got rid of that dynamic where they now elevate what each other do where back in the days we were like, oh, these guys are too duplicative. Like we might have to move one, blah, blah, blah. Now these guys actually play off of each other.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
I mean, Nick Nurse did a great job last year. I think the Sixers definitely overperformed most of our expectations. Maybe the playoffs wasn't ideal. Playoffs are pretty rough. They overperformed most of our expectations. And I think which we can be bullish about.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
I'm just saying last year they were good. Wasn't on my research. Last year they were good. The thing is, Embiid, I know a lot of people killed him for saying, I don't care about MVP. It's about the playoffs. It's about winning. I like that.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
For a team that's trying to incorporate Paul George, that has Maxie, who's ascendant, I like the idea that he's not going to feel the onus to dominate every possession like he traditionally has for the team basically his entire career. And so... That's a good sign. I think they're going to be straight. You know what I mean?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
Yeah, and I owe a big apology to Justin Verrier. It's the Chicago Bulls. Oh, look at you. I thought the Bulls were going to be fun, and Josh Kitty was going to have this new role, and DeMar DeRozan was going to open things up, but they've been way better than I could have expected.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
When Embiid isn't beating dudes up in the locker room for writing bad columns.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
Obviously, they beat the Knicks last night on a crazy last-second foul on a three-point shot, but they're just so well-coached. Kobe White's hair got fouled.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
Yeah. Honestly, I'm more in the middle of you and some of our Gen Zers who just see any stress-related issue related to work as unacceptable.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
I think it's a little bit worse than the peak of our recent peak of 2016, where Steph was like a global phenomenon, and him and LeBron playing that epic seven-game finals. I don't think we're anywhere close to that level of health in terms of the league, but... They do have the most famous players in American sports.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
Again, the teams don't, like, people don't watch games as much as they might even watch the Jacksonville.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
It's not like, Lamar, who I love, that's my guy.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
Yeah, it's not. Like, they're recognizable people. So, like... They can get people to pay attention to them, whether that be for who they're dating or what clothes they're wearing, whatever. They got to find a way to monetize that attention. But I think once you're in a space where you create celebrities, like even recently, like a Ja Morant, that's a good place to be.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
That is what happened. I don't think he actually fouled him. But, you know, he airballed the shot to make it look like he got hit pretty bad. But yeah, it's Kobe White. It's Zach Levine, who I don't know if it's he's found clarity in his role on the Bulls or if he's really dying to get traded because he was so unhappy this offseason.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
And they just got to get more creative about getting people to love the game.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
Hold on, Bill. Because we're on this, because I have to talk to you about this. Carl Towns over LeBron in the top 100. I didn't do that.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
Oh, okay.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
I thought you had Towns over LeBron.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
I think it's harder because of the stars and the culture around our stars themselves. Like, I was asking somebody... who's now a huge F1 fan, about the Netflix show. I was like, do they get into anything on that show? Because I've never watched it. She was like, yeah. They'll be like, that team is cheating. This person's an alcoholic, blah, blah, blah.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
Like, I just thought, you know, they lost their most consistent player in DeRozan. Zach Levine has been sulking for, like, a year and a half. They're bringing in Josh Giddey, ushering a kind of youth movement kind of thing. I just thought they would stink, and it's been the opposite. And Vucevic... He's been playing some of the best ball of his career. He's taking and making threes.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
They've made the characters compelling, as opposed to that damn NBA show on Netflix, where Jason Tatum is like, I love my mom, I love who, and I love my son. These are the things we learned about Jason Tatum, who's one of the 10, 8, 7 best players in the league. They don't make themselves interesting. People don't care.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
It can make you a star, but it can also take you off your perch. I wonder how much of that stuff actually sticks to people like off of the Internet. And I get it more and more of our society, our Internet based creatures. But I do wonder how often and how long that stuff sticks. Like to me, what I'm talking about is like Draymond goes on his podcast and he's like, yo, Clay freaking ghosted Steph.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
Steph was going to say some nice words about him before the comeback game. And after the lack of, or the conversation that he had with clay called PR and said, I'm not doing it anymore. Like you telling me you put that in that Netflix show, that kind of stuff. But do you think that people won't be interested in the story of the NBA?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
Like, the guy looks rejuvenated. They've been, to me, the team that has kind of jumped off the screen. Like, wow, I thought you guys were going to be horrible, and you're way better.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
And at no point was that like, this is an interesting game.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
competitive compelling like I don't know I think people could fall in love with it how it is I think the TV product is a problem and I know this is like not a populist thing to say I think they should ban league pass or just like make it as extremely expensive as possible like cost per hit or just you only get to pay for three teams you don't get all 30 or something like that I'm not understanding what's
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Make the product less accessible.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Make it more scarce. You know what I mean? Because I think there's got to be a way to make this thing feel less accessible. There's a game every single night. And, like, what do you really miss? If you missed the Heat game last night, what did you miss?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
He is unpredictable and he's playing better this year. No, he is playing better. So what I'm saying is.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
I think Giannis' appeal has been mismanaged by the league, by Nike. Oh, what's this case?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
I just think, like, this whole, like, oh, the poor, humble immigrant who was selling, you know, yogurts in Greece for a dollar probably. Like, I just think that was just mismanaged. They should have leaned into, like, the insane competitor, freakish athlete, whatever guy.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Like, the way he's been packaged to America as this, like, cutesy immigrant story, I think was done a disservice to, like, his actual star pill. And Giannis is somebody who's actually embracing... Americana in a way that Jokic and Luka just don't. They're just not interested in being American celebrities.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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They're just like, yo, I want to hoop, win, go home, be a great teammate, move on with my life. But Giannis is interested in being a cultural figure. And I think that could have worked. I just think that they didn't. I think Giannis is pretty compelling. But I think the freaking foreign stuff does hurt the league. If Luka was from Indiana, bro... he would be out of here.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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We've talked about this before.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Where white hoopers thrive.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Seriously. And he would have been a phenomenon in the state of Kentucky. He would have went to UK. He would have been... Basically what I have with Drake Bang.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Could you imagine? Yeah, yeah.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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And I've said this before, I think another thing, if we were doing the foreign players thing right, we would be doing it like boxing with the xenophobic, nationalistic sort of spin that we do with every fight. Like, I do remember when Floyd came out to fight Oscar De La Hoya in a sombrero. I'm not saying we should do that in the NBA. I'm not saying we should do that in the NBA.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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But he's also 35 now.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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He is the best heel.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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People just love Victor Wimby. Yeah, they love him. I made the same mistake because... I don't know if you guys remember the Adrian report where it was like people were saying he's the best prospect of any sport ever. So I had this bid on the show where I was like, oh, he's the best prospect since Satchel Paige and Ty Cobb. Like, I would come up with some old whatever every time.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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And like, because, you know, I was like kind of a little bit doubting it at first. And my goodness, man. Like, whatever. Twitter is just what it is. But in person, people would be like, I heard what you said about Wimpy. You're crazy. You're wrong. Blah, blah, blah. Like, you're right about the Wemby investment. So, like, I do think he has major potential.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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I think Wemby's broken through, honestly, in terms of culture. Like, even when Britney Spears got beat up by his bodyguards at Summer League for trying to talk to him that one time. God damn, what? I'm just saying, you don't remember Britney Spears wanted his picture. I know, but you throwing so much gas on that. Britney Spears got beat up. That's how she represented it on the internet.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Anyway, I wasn't there. I didn't see it. But yeah, I think Wemby's definitely up there.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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No, it was, man, last year was toxic as hell by all indication when you talk to people who was in and around the team at that time. And I think with Vucevic and Patrick Williams, who I'm still like, whoa, what were they thinking with that contract? Yeah, he's like one of those... What do you do? I don't know if it's the three or the D. What's your specialty? I don't know.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Yeah, and I remember David Stern's dress code thing that everybody said was like mega racist and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right? And... You know, it was just the idea that like a lot of these guys from the streets or whatever we're called, inner city, whatever euphemism we want to use, we're less polished, less media trained, right? Our league is now way more suburban. These kids come from
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Way more affluent backgrounds. They're way more media-trained, focus group, consultant freaking to death. And as Van says, it's not as fun. It's just not. Like, I love Devin Booker. I love watching him hoop. He's famous enough to date Kendall freaking Jenner. Nobody knows anything about him. Nothing. Nobody knows a... You can't... A lot of people don't even know what this guy's voice sounds like.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Like, could you imagine Donovan Mitchell? He's another one of these guys who's like perfect. Like, great suburban upbringing, says the right thing, beautifully eloquent when he speaks. Like, he's so polished. Could you imagine him ever saying anything as interesting as KD does on a freaking daily basis? No. And I don't think that's a good thing.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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And what I would say too is like, Adam, God bless him for all of his shortcomings, in my opinion. I can't wait for this take. He went out and got these guys the bag.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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No, he went out and did that. And you did a great job. Bravo, Adam. Now your next freaking job is to get people to care more about what's happening on the floor in your freaking league.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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It's not the NBA cup courts. No, it's not. Oh, there's a green one. I think Adam has an amazing business sense. He's smart enough to get the Emirates involved in naming rights. And like, he is incredible at getting the corporate partners to buy into what they're doing. Now he's got to be better at the basketball part and getting people to care more.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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I'm still trying to figure it out. But he's been a more willing shooter. Yeah. And, like, with Vucevic finally being a stretch four, Levine is playing with, like, a really spaced-out floor in front of him. And the guy is really talented. Like, he's not afraid. Well, this year, he's not been afraid to take it to the basket. And there were just some isolation plays last night.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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They love the inventory.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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For me, I got religion in 2014 when everybody was praising Popovich for not playing. They were playing the Heat too. It was the Spurs and he sat like three of the starters.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Everybody ruined the Saturday game. Yes.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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And everybody was like, the NBA media consensus was like, Pop is such a genius and blah, blah, blah. And I got to give it to our guy, Amin. He was like, it's cool when the Spurs do it, but when everybody's doing it, it's not going to be good. And our partners pay us for these games. This is how we make the bulk of our money.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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They ponied up again. They got blessed with the media environment where these live rights are so impactful. But like, that's when I got religion on it. When everybody was like, yo, Pop is a genius for this. And I'm just like, well, if teams need to load manage their stars, then that means we need less games. Like, that's just the obvious.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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They'll be fine. They'll finish in the top three of the East.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Mind you, these are the masters of the universe. This is what we're told. These are the smartest business people in the history of planet Earth. And you get this massive increase in revenue with your new TV deal. You would think that it's like, all right, With this windfall, we can make the product better.
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It might hurt us in the short run in terms of our inventory, but we're going to find a way to make these games feel more interesting, special, and better monetize the decrease in inventory. But instead, they're just like, no, we're going to bash them over the head with 82 from now till eternity.
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in the fourth quarter where it just felt like the Knicks had no chance against Zach Levine, which like, when's the last time you've said that about Zach Levine? He looks incredible. And then, you know, the Knicks.
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Or just the clips of early Tyson? No. Tyson, my first real memories of Mike outside of OVHS was when he came out of the first prison stint. Like the Bruno and all of those guys.
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It's like when he came out of prison and he had that sort of exhibition tour where he fought the big doofy white dude. Peter McNeely. Yeah, Bruno in the UK. Big Massachusetts moment.
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Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
And like, you know, it was like this warm up to like the real big fights against Holyfield and Lennox Lewis. And like, I would say even back then, the aura still existed. And everybody around me assumed he was going to kill these guys.
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Like everybody thought, no, it's Mike. Like he had the fluke. He went to prison. He's back. He's down with the Muslims.
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Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
Because there's an extension of grace that Mike is afforded even after the sexual assault charges and convictions that, like, people just have decided collectively that we're going to extend Mike... some level of grace. And I think it is some of that vulnerability that you're mentioning right now.
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Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
Cause like there's other people who would have gone through what he's gone through and would have been completely written off by every single segment of society, except some of the worst elements. But like Mike has managed to fight his way through that and be embraced.
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Yeah.
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Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
He's one of the last ones that we're just like... Yeah, I wonder if anybody else could ever have the type of redemption arc. And, you know, some people might say it's undeserved. You know, some people might say, like, you know, maybe human beings deserve to make mistakes and live past it.
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But, yeah, I'm fascinated by that element of it where, like, everybody understands that, like, Mike has lived a traumatic life. Mike has mental health issues. Mike has done some really fucked up things. But yet Mike is, you know, still somebody people root for. I think it's amazing, honestly.
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That was who he became. These people think that I'm an animal. So I'm going to act like one. So I'm going to do it and I'm going to sell this fight and I'm going to intimidate this dude and I'm going to, you know, talk about...
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Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
Yeah, I think that's the difference between now and 2011 or 12, which is when I first became a regular on League Pass. It was like, whoever the Bulls were, when they decided that they were going to stink up the joint, they were going to have basically... Three rotation-worthy guys in the starting lineup, and everybody else was kind of going to be like, okay, this team is headed for 17 wins. Yeah.
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That one run. I want to eat your kids.
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Oh, that's, those are, these are iconic crazy runs.
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Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
It's like odd. I guess I'm just going to fade into Bolivian.
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I think he's going to be okay in terms of physically. I just, yeah, I just find it hard to believe he's going to hit this guy enough times to win.
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Yeah.
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Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
Like, this young kid, he just parachutes into my life's work, my sport, and thinks that he could take me out. I understand why anybody would be motivated by that, but, yeah, the man is 60.
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Greatest night. I was like, oh, my God.
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They're playing the lottery game and whatever. Nowadays, like, the Bulls we expected to be a bottom four Eastern Conference team, but because they haven't gotten rid of, like, they would have sold off Vucevic. They would have sold off Levine. They would have sold everything off. But now because they kept those guys, like, they're just not a given win. There's no, like, given wins.
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The heart was pumping.
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What? On the weekends?
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Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
Yes, he's real enough. He's the greatest celebrity boxer of all time.
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Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
I don't think he'd be in the top 100 of actual people in his weight class in terms of, you know, especially not in the world, but even in America for that sense. But like to be that famous... And to fight that credibly, I think is an actual. It's impressive.
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Oh, the Congo, the continent, continent.
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So is this more credible than the Deontay Wilder early clips?
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And even the Wizards on some nights of first game, I think Zach Levine— Brooklyn's another one. Brooklyn's another one. Yeah, like, there's no— Toronto. There's no process Sixers is what I always say. Like, that process Sixers team where Michael Carter-Williams was leading that team in scoring for an entire season— That was insane.
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I saw Cam Ward bought his entire offensive line diamond chains. Like, he had like a platter out and as a gift for his amazing season, he got them diamond chains.
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Yeah. It's a strange direction it's headed in, for sure.
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Yeah. It's so different. And I don't know if it's just the talent. Like, these dudes have just come out and played with a lot of pride. Like, just quite frankly.
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Yeah, but I mean, it's really hard to explain why none of these teams have come out and been, you know, just dog shit. And again, it's early.
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Yeah.
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Part 1: An NBA Popularity Check and Tyson’s Big Comeback With Wosny Lambre and Van Lathan
And I think what's crazy too is that like the NBA, because of how they handled some of this load management stuff, have been... How did they handle it? Poorly. They've been so effective in messaging that the regular season doesn't matter. This isn't real basketball. Playoffs where things really start and people are playing hard. That's not been the case to start the season.
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Like every single one of these games feels like super competitive. People are playing like the... People aren't playing with super low motors. There's some teams that seem to have a bit of a hangover. I think Denver started the first four games of the season with a bit of a hangover. Minnesota's hangover has been extended. Minnesota's not just hungover. They're like...
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Yeah, they still can't drive.
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Still, yeah, 100%. But for the most part, man, teams have come out and been playing out the gates. Like OKC feels like they got something to prove. Cleveland. I got something to prove. Cleveland, I mean, my God. They've come out like gangbusters. And it's made the regular season excellent for it.
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That was a Tony Rotten apologist in those days.
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Yeah. Should he play more? That Sixers team would challenge the Bobcats.
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No question. In terms of worst win-loss record ever. And teams just aren't that horrible. And some of it, like you said, is the second apron where, you know, contenders, I think in a different era, Golden State would have looked at, they would have said, you know what? Instead of doing the Melton and Buddy heel to replace Klay, we're going to pull the trigger on Zach Levine.
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in a different era but now with like all of the salary constraints you can't do it the Lakers would already probably have him 100% and you know maybe they're keeping the powder draft for Trey Young who knows but yeah it's just a different era man 2014 Bucks who were 15 and 67 Brandon Knight led the team in scoring Ramon Sessions was second remember him?
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Larry Sanders is pissed right now. KD smokes weed openly. Yeah, Larry Sanders is like, I tried this. Why didn't it work for me?
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And they're competitive on a lot of nights.
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Yeah, the threes is always... It's been a sort of, you know, less talented teams. You want to up your variance factor with the threes. Everybody's kind of known this for like seven, eight years now. But like... But everyone's doing it. The discipline with which... Coaches that are actually able to enforce it is different now. It's just better infrastructure to make sure.
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Like, this is one thing to say, like, we're going to play with pace. We're going to, you know what I mean? We're going to shoot the three-point shot. We're going to encourage as many threes as we can. But to, like, actually coach it and get your guys to be doing a consistency, to go against their instinct, to dribble, dribble, dribble, shoot a long two is different.
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