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So... Boxing has insanely good stars right now. I'm talking about good in their skill. Terrence Crawford.

So... Boxing has insanely good stars right now. I'm talking about good in their skill. Terrence Crawford.

So... Boxing has insanely good stars right now. I'm talking about good in their skill. Terrence Crawford.

Oleksandr Usyk. Tyson Fury, even though he lost to Usyk. Inua. Like, all of these different guys, right? People care for reasons that really, as fucked up as this is, they care for reasons other than how good you are. Yeah. Like, stories make people care. UFC's like this.

Oleksandr Usyk. Tyson Fury, even though he lost to Usyk. Inua. Like, all of these different guys, right? People care for reasons that really, as fucked up as this is, they care for reasons other than how good you are. Yeah. Like, stories make people care. UFC's like this.

Oleksandr Usyk. Tyson Fury, even though he lost to Usyk. Inua. Like, all of these different guys, right? People care for reasons that really, as fucked up as this is, they care for reasons other than how good you are. Yeah. Like, stories make people care. UFC's like this.

Skills make champions. Stories make stars. And you have to be able to relate to a story. Now, some of these foreign guys, they have stories that are just as interesting as anyone. Really more interesting. I left war torn, whatever. Like, if you ever, like,

Skills make champions. Stories make stars. And you have to be able to relate to a story. Now, some of these foreign guys, they have stories that are just as interesting as anyone. Really more interesting. I left war torn, whatever. Like, if you ever, like,

Skills make champions. Stories make stars. And you have to be able to relate to a story. Now, some of these foreign guys, they have stories that are just as interesting as anyone. Really more interesting. I left war torn, whatever. Like, if you ever, like,

Francis Ngannou, Jesus, like all of that stuff. The problem is, isn't it accessible to audiences? Even in boxing, when guys, when they don't speak English or when they can't really get over to American audiences, sometimes you have problems making stars with them.

Francis Ngannou, Jesus, like all of that stuff. The problem is, isn't it accessible to audiences? Even in boxing, when guys, when they don't speak English or when they can't really get over to American audiences, sometimes you have problems making stars with them.

Francis Ngannou, Jesus, like all of that stuff. The problem is, isn't it accessible to audiences? Even in boxing, when guys, when they don't speak English or when they can't really get over to American audiences, sometimes you have problems making stars with them.

The only difference there is that for somebody like a Canelo Alvarez, his country backs him to such a degree that you can still make a worldwide star. Yeah. What I wonder about the NBA, you're going to have to. You're going to have to have some dude from L.A. You're going to have to have some guy from Ohio.

The only difference there is that for somebody like a Canelo Alvarez, his country backs him to such a degree that you can still make a worldwide star. Yeah. What I wonder about the NBA, you're going to have to. You're going to have to have some dude from L.A. You're going to have to have some guy from Ohio.

The only difference there is that for somebody like a Canelo Alvarez, his country backs him to such a degree that you can still make a worldwide star. Yeah. What I wonder about the NBA, you're going to have to. You're going to have to have some dude from L.A. You're going to have to have some guy from Ohio.

We're talking video game, movie.

We're talking video game, movie.

We're talking video game, movie.

But think about Floyd, though. But I'm saying. But think about Floyd, though. Floyd just went total heel. Yes. To like total heel.

But think about Floyd, though. But I'm saying. But think about Floyd, though. Floyd just went total heel. Yes. To like total heel.