Guest Speaker
Appearances
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Field Trips Edition w/ Kevin Ryan & H. Foley
I think he did a lot of drugs back in the day. The United States of Funk, if you catch my drift.
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Field Trips Edition w/ Kevin Ryan & H. Foley
He had a broad on top of a subwoofer.
Bad Friends
Paper Airplanes Come & Steal Your Girl
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Bad Friends
Paper Airplanes Come & Steal Your Girl
Nichts ist passiert, Mann. Er hat es einfach gemacht, weil er den ersten Podcast veröffentlicht hat und es war schlecht.
Bad Friends
Paper Airplanes Come & Steal Your Girl
Er ist nicht wirklich ein guter Podcaster. Ich habe einfach keine guten Sachen bekommen. Er war auch mit meinem anderen Comedian-Homie Biniyam. Und die waren nicht gut. Also habe ich ihn wieder aufgenommen. Wie hast du den zweiten Mal gemacht?
Bad Friends
Paper Airplanes Come & Steal Your Girl
Der zweite war besser, also bin ich froh, dass wir es wieder gemacht haben. Ja, gut, gut, gut. Ja.
Bad Friends
Paper Airplanes Come & Steal Your Girl
Nein, er ist kein Diva. Er macht definitiv Geräusche.
Bad Friends
Paper Airplanes Come & Steal Your Girl
We love you. You're the best, bro. Morgan's good.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
No, no, no, no. It's just the shape. It's just the oval. The yellow had nothing to do with it.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
If I grew up with you, I would have punched you as hard as I could. Every day. Very close.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
You already said you'd punch him as hard as you could every day. You know how close we would have been when we were little boys. I know. If we were the same generation. That's not taking a shot. I'm saying if we literally grew up in the same time, we would have been such buddies. Troublemaker, dude.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Hey, Lee. Stay away from my brother. I'm sick of your dumb sister coming around the school acting all smart because she's in STEM. Yes.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
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Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
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Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
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Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
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Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Money makes people feel stressed, guilty, unsure, overwhelmed. Those are bad qualities. You don't want that because it feels shaky sometimes when you're not in control of your money. Money can sometimes control you. And I'm telling you, you got to get control.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Yeah, it is. Acorns is a financial wellness app that helps you take control of your money with simple tools to make it easy. to start investing and saving for your future. You don't need to be an expert, by the way. Acorns will recommend a diversified portfolio that matches you and your money goals. This is the biggest thing, by the way. People think, oh, you have to have a lot of money.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
No, no, no, no. No. Do not. You can start saving now, start investing now, start diversifying now. Acorns is here to help.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
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More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
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Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
I think that's not okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you have one teacher that you loved as a kid that you were like, they're the coolest, nicest?
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Teachers did not like me. You were a bad kid. Same. I had one teacher that loved me so much, but he also hated me, where he's like, you're- Oh yeah, okay, I had one of those.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
We all have one that they're like, I wish you weren't such a disruption because you're such a fun light.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
It's held up down there. Yeah, it's held up. Like a bank robbery.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
When an Asian guy dies, you know they say you take your last breath. Some people are like... Yeah. His dad won't.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
I think it is. You've never heard your dad in your house? Yeah, but it's more like boo. No, no.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Oh, sounds like someone has a traumatic event. Yeah.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
I actually had a really nice day that's why I want to die
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Yeah, we did everything I wanted to do. We talked about animal practice and Blues Brothers.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Oh, sick. They're fast, huh? You have an Indy or an Audi, Bellybutton? Indy. Don't say it like people don't have Audis. I've never seen an Audi. Huh?
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
I watched the start and then I fell asleep on the plane and then I never got back to it. I did see a documentary about that girl that faked that she had brain cancer yesterday.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Okay, I don't know anything what you're talking about, so I want to see it. Apple Cider Figure is the show about the girl who fakes that she had. She's an Australian girl named Belle Gibson. Yeah. Belle Gibson. And Belle Gibson. She's from Melbourne. It really drove me nuts that they kept calling her in the documentary Belle Gibson. Because it sounds like Mel Gibson. They say it all the time.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Like, well, that's when Belle Gibson went on her little tirade. Yeah. I was like, ooh, I remember that. On PCA.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
They made a show based on it and they put them out basically at the same time.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
There's Belle Gibson right there taking a photo. Belle, tell us why you faked your cancer.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Belle, come on. You said you went to a doctor in Perth. At the time, I... Quite frankly, we looked up the doctor. Doesn't exist, Belle. Belle...
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
One moment. My son's here. What are you talking about? My adopted son. My adopted Chinese son.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
yeah down under that's it okay anyway down under this girl just sat on a 60 minutes and that's the footage of the 60 minutes and she literally is like you don't have brain cancer she's like at the time yeah she was true or false you have brain cancer she goes at the time true or false it was amazing but she's such a magician she's able to just kind of like fuck off all this negative she's nothing ever happened she never got arrested she never went to prison
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
nothing what's the problem here what about if i said to you if i said to you we're not finishing the story okay she created a health app and the app earned a lot of money from people who have cancer that wanted to take this health journey with her and she said she was going to give like many of the proceeds to charity which she never did she never did it's a it's a brilliant money scamming that's but we agree it is a brilliant charity fraud beautiful name for a baby girl
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
That's what a baby girl sounds like. Hey, welcome to Portland. I'm charity fraud. Little girls don't sound like that.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
I did. Brain cancer is such a heavy one to lie about. You could have said leukemia is blood cancer. That one's an easier lie because people can live with it for a long time. Why brain?
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Did you ever put a bicycle playing card on the spokes of your bicycle?
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Did you ever see people do that in the neighborhood?
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Well, that's a girl. You're doing a girl. Do a guy.
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More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
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Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
He's a bus driver. Darling, haven't you got 50p to give him? I've got nothing on me. Yeah.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Yeah, yeah. That's exactly what it's like. Every day you're just going to get yelled at and assaulted. Yeah.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Oh, here we go. She's not getting it. Oh, the big date I ate? Yeah, yeah. Oh my God.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Double fried. Chocolate dipped? Double dipped. Peanut butter stuffed? PBS. Deep fried and everything? Deep double fried on a ding dong scanty deck.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Bacon wrapped dates are probably one of my favorite.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Delicious. All right. How about most unattractive looking food that you find absolutely delicious?
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Beef that does look gross and tastes good. Yeah. With what? With what?
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Lobster in general. Lobsters always look so great. I've had... I don't like when they cut it open and they half it on the... No, I don't like how... I don't like that.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
But don't they say like muscles, right? Isn't it something like muscles have super high, what's the level that makes people, the thing that makes people really sick in there? Listeria? Yeah, that's right, right? Yeah, I think so. That's the thing that was in eggs and shit.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
yeah okay there it is paralytic shellfish poisoning PSP oh god yeah this is like super common people get it all the time wait you can get PSP from muscles PSP too and that's when you can like hear the thoughts of dead people and stuff purple I do want to ask you a real serious question if we can be serious for two seconds okay does is there a Lisa Gilroy show in the works I have a there's a rumor
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
I heard that too. I'm being 100% serious. I heard that too. No way. Shut up. Be real. I just said be serious for two seconds. Yeah, yeah. Are you being honest right now, Gilroy? Is there a show being developed, at least a Gilroy show?
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Nah, but there's something else that you're just being coy about it.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Stamos and... John Stamos and Meghan Trainor. Meghan Trainor did it. That's our first two guests.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Is your husband ever farted? Wait, before he was your husband, you were dating, you farted on a date, were you chill about it?
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Does he trap the farts? Do you fart in front of him?
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Farts are chill. Farts are chill. Farts are actually, there is a study. Look this up. There's a study that finds that couples who fart in front of each other have a healthier...
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
All right. Okay. I don't either. All right. Have you ever been peed on?
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
First up, Chinese guy, blonde lady. First question, out of the gate. Welcome to my game show. It's called Look at the Board.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Toot Manangani. Thanks to Magani. Thanks, Lisa Gilroy. Thank you for being here on my show.
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More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Hands on behind you. One hand behind your back. One hand on the buzzer. Okay. Get ready to buzz in. All right. In 1947, the inflation rate had adjusted from the previous year from 2%, 3.5%. True or false? Ding. Ding. True. Lisa, true. False. Look at the board. Bing, true.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Here we go. Noot Takani. Noot Takani. Thank you. Is a popular dessert in which country?
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Toot to Goody and Lisa. This is for the final up. Double up the P-Stack. Jerry Seinfeld came into... Bing! Oh, Lisa. What's the deal? Look at the board.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
She won. You lost. Now, loser's statement. Look into the camera. Loser's statement. Go ahead when you're ready. Loser's statement from Toot Dugani. What does that mean? Look at the camera. Loser's statement. It's time for the loser's statement. Permission to boo? Oh. Permission to boo granted.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
What a great part, like imparting that kind of wisdom. What was that phrase your grandpa used to say to you?
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
But you were so young too. Do you really remember? I mean, he was so young when he was alive.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Oh, yeah. I love you so much. You're my favorite grandchild.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
It got canceled. No, he didn't know it got canceled. He was saying, I'm sorry that you're on that show. You think that's what it was? That's what I think he was saying. He saw a trailer and was like, fuck, dog, I'm sorry you're on that show.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
We're going after bilinguals, bisexuals. If you're bi, bye-bye. I did everything right, and they indicted me.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Wait, why'd you do this? Oh, does he have a disability?
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Well, because these houses, you know, there are so many of them in one house. There's like 50 of them in there.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Google Lisa Gilroy for us right there. Don't do that. Let's find out the best pic. Let's see the best photo she's got on the internet.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Oh, that's so funny. Lisa Gilroy. Time out. Hold on. Did you Google Lisa Gilroy hot? Stop.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Click this. Click the next one. Click it. Keep going through them. Ready?
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More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Start with the first one and then click close after I say the word. Ready? Over the first one.
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More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Yeah. And farted. Farted. Farted. Yeah, yeah. Farted. Farted. Yeah. Thought about farting. Yeah. Farted.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
That's a cute one right there. That's a great photo.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
No, no, no. It's so cute. That's not why you're in a magazine.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
I don't know what that is. That's from 1883? Yeah. Okay. Hold on.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Well, that's nice of you guys to run magazines. Oh, there's Bitcoin Bobby.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
I'm not in a fucking magazine. I told you that. I've never done a magazine.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Oh, yes, I was. Where? Yes, I was. Down to the left where I'm in the golf cart. I was in a magazine.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
They all have studs on their jackets. Little stud stars.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
You can't take the one that she just said that's impossible.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
You're telling me you're not rolling down a hill sometimes? You're just rolling down a hill.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
You're on a show right now. It's not a sitcom, but you're on a television show.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
What's the show called? You are. What the fuck are you on? Interior Chinatown.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
No, no, she's on a show. She actually is on a show right now. It's on Apple.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Well, if you're on a show, you're on a show. So you've been on a show before.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
That's right. So you're on the show. Until they take it down, you're on the show.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
They told me I was off the show. Oh, you got kicked off?
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Well, yeah, if you don't have a job, it does feel like you got fired.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
The show, the TV show Blossom. When was that on the air?
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
I remember thinking about it. I was like, that girl's like the coolest chick on TV.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Isn't she a fucking, isn't she like a NASA level genius?
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
Jenks, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15. Your sister's gonna die in a crash.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
I'm sorry, I haven't. So be careful driving the road tonight. I love you.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
When you go to 15 and does jinx, you're next to kin sibling. That is what happens when you go to 15. I don't know. Canada might be different than the States, but here it is if you go to 15.
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
That was all right. I made that up. We love Canadians. They're the best. They just beat us in hockey. Yeah. What a game. Did you watch that?
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
That's what I use it for. That's your cousin. Yeah, you fuck a toque motherfucker. Do you have a different word for balaclavas?
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
I think we've created such a nice environment for you to come to do that. Not only that, and I find it to be- Haven't we?
Bad Friends
More Heart, More Fart w/ Lisa Gilroy
If it's Carlos, I'm going to be fucking pissed off.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
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Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
You gave your son a ukulele and he learned how to play the electric guitar and now that's what he's doing.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
Almost like Michael Jackson. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's not that. Yeah, it's not that. It's gel, okay? I don't know what the fuck that is, right? But anyway, dude. You know I've never had one?
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
Oh my God. All right, so now I look outside the house, right? And I see three men. Side by side like this in a power circle. There's no room to get in. A triangle. A triangle. Right? Of sadness. A triangle of sadness. Thank you so much. Yeah. You know, even Koreans have a guy that has slang. That's the slang guy. So the Spanish people have that guy.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
Wait, that joke is so good. So good. That joke is so good. It made me not laugh.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
So one of the things in it is, you know what I mean? If you see a group of girls at a bar and the one you like, right? Don't pay attention to her, right? Be nice to the other three, right? And then kind of rip her apart a little bit. Yeah. That hairstyle's 80s, huh? And then go back to the girls, right? Supposedly that's going to get their juices flowing. It doesn't work. Right.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
They spit in your face. I had a girl spit in my face. The kiss to be good looking.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
I went on a date with a girl from Los Feliz and at the end of the date, I go in to kiss and she went,
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
She was very nice. We call them in Spanish, we call them shrimps. What?
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
Perfect. Perfect. You have a sugar-free Red Bull? No. Only with sugar.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
Feliz Navidad. Feliz Navidad. Feliz Navidad. I want to wish you a Merry Christmas.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
Can we do medium? No. Yes, medium. That's the only thing you do? Yeah.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
I'll have a Red Bull. You want a Red Bull? Three Red Bulls, lemon water. Water's all around. Yeah, but no lemon for mine.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
Her body, her choice. Her body, her choice. Her body, her choice, right? Her body, her choice. And then she looked and she goes, I just, I'm not attracted to you. Yep.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
And she goes, you're fat, you're fat. No, no, that's boo. She called you fat? And I go, oh.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
Okay. Damn, Lyle. Lyle, are you playing a character right now? Yeah.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
The Menendez killers are hard, dude. Saturday morning, I woke up. So I went to the La Valencia Hotel, spent the night there. Went to the store and then spent the night there to give Dan a 40-year cake. I saw the photo.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
You're really going to fucking piss me off today. I'm not in the mood to fucking play right now, dude. I mean, what does one have? Number one, do you know how AA meetings work?
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
Okay. So every week, and Carlos can back me up, right? You look like a supermarket cake. Dude, you're a fucking piece of shit. Fucking piece of shit. So this is how it works.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
I don't know. I didn't even look at the cake. It was Vaughn's? Yeah. This is how it works. John's. Every year, they do a group census, consensus, not group, a group meeting where they nominate people that do chairs. It's always a newcomer, and they go, who wants the cake commitment? Some newcomer raises his hand, I'll do it.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
So every week, his job is to go to anywhere and buy a cake and bring it to the meeting, right? Yeah. I don't know where the fuck it's from, but that's not the point of the birthday.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
We really should cut. No, no, no. Here's the deal. Yeah, you're right. He was attempting to do a joke from a Dumb and Dumber reference. It didn't land well. I didn't like it. It didn't make any sense.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
With me. And so I think that there needs to be a boycott. I agree. So the boycott is this. That was your last straw friend. That's it. You and I will never do his stupid show again. Correct.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
I had something building up. As his sidekick, as his sidekick, I was feeling gold coming on, and then you, my friend, you fucking put a fucking dam in the middle of it.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
No, no, no. I want to hear him do it. No, but he had to interrupt you. The timing is impeccable.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
That's so good. And explain Twinkie for the viewers that doesn't know. And I'm a Reese's peanut butter cup. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So tell me what a Twinkie is, my friend. To the audience, what do you mean by Twinkie?
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
There's no legacy. There's no legacy. Yes, there is. There is no legacy. Let me say something. Who was one of the best comics that died in the last 10 years? Patrice, right? Yeah. None of the kids know him. That's not true. That's not true.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
I think... Okay, you're naming someone who's... Well, if you have no hours out, maybe there's no legacy. Uh-oh. That's a shot. Oh, no.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
No, I was just saying the legacy thing. You know that you have to put.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
That's what Beyonce's backup dancers wore at Coachella. Is this at Coachella? I think so. Wow. There's the trumpets they're not holding. Or Wakanda.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
So these individuals... Did you just hear what he just said? That was so fucking funny.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
He's the first guy that's famous that is actually in the Hall of Fame.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
Something for the community. Oh, you think I'm not doing an important work? Honestly, if I was gonna do a real old hot dog restaurant, I'd have to figure out, number one, I want it to be quality. Like where do we get the dogs? We got 100%- From China.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
Yeah, that pause, though, was me laughing. Because I was hoping. But then I'm also offended. Guy, dude, every once in a while, dude. Very funny. Uh-oh, hot dog. Yeah, from China.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
Yeah, but the ones they realize that they're not, they go into, you know what I mean? Great depression.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
What did you just say? Would you just say filmmaker? Did you say filmmaker? You think you're so great?
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
I'm not doing the short. We work with scumbags. All right, so what do you want to say about Joe Coy? What I want to say is that I thought he did a good job at the Golden Globe. I'll tell you why. Joseph. Joseph. Joseph. You guys know Joe Coy, don't you? He had 10 days to do this thing, right? It was a risk. He did the best he could. I thought that they didn't do him any favors in editing. Life.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
No, but what I'm saying is editing, like cutting into the audience and seeing some reactions. That's what I meant. Oh, right, right, right. I understand. That's what I meant. Okay. All right. They didn't do any favors for him.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
Go ahead. Finish. I don't want to go. No, finish your statement. I don't want to continue. Please. I want to hear you finish. You're really on my last nerve. Hand it to her nice, dude. That's a celebrity, dude.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
You know, Andreas, when I die and I look down, because I will be looking down at my services and my funeral and stuff. I think he means because you're in the casket. No, I think he means I'm in hell. I think he means in the casket. No, no.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
But coming to America, being a fat Asian guy, and getting white chicks and Mexican, all this stuff, it's harder. That's the fucking key. It's challenging.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
It's easier when you pay, though. Wait, are you talking about your body count?
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Happy New Year 2025
You know what? I'm trying to come here with positivity, dude. Right? And your little jokes, dude. Right? I'm going to let them slide today.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
A lemonade for Dominguez. First of all, because you only have chimichurri steak here, so what are the drinks options? It doesn't seem like you would have lemonade.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
So on like Fresh Prince of Bel-Air and sitcoms, like when the audience is laughing, there's an actual audience there?
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Happy New Year 2025
But also the audience gets it, right? So they kind of pretend. They play along almost. That's so cool. Yeah, yeah. It's pretty positive.
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Happy New Year 2025
Yeah, I always have inside information. Actually, do you guys want to know how much?
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Happy New Year 2025
Can you guess how much? On the ground works that people don't know about that you, Andrew, and I can buy in on?
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Happy New Year 2025
We have wine. Wine. And water. And water. Okay, with lemon. We can put lemon.
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Happy New Year 2025
Don't fucking correct us. If you correct the host again... I can't continue.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
You're talking shit when Bobby walked in. I thought they were just going blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
Well, look, they're saying something, but who gives a shit? Yeah, yeah. So, para bailar la bomba. And how awful does that sound? Para bailar la bomba. Necesitita una poca de gracia. Say it the way that you know it. What? Say it the way you know it. I was just doing it. No, the way you know it. Better. Better. Better song.
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
Right. Right? Let me ask you something. When you guys went to Africa and stole all those black people. Yeah. And you're putting them on the ship. No, it was you guys. You guys invented that. Am I not right? Yeah, 100%. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, why did you push them in the middle of the ocean if they were a little sick or whatever? What was that for? What was that all about?
Bad Friends
Happy New Year 2025
Or the wine. Would you like water... Lemon water? Yes. Will that suffice? I don't drink, so I'll have, I guess, a water.
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One Good Korean
But is that why Koreans have such big heads? Because they intermingled a little bit? Yeah, that's right.
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One Good Korean
Yeah, that's what I mean. That's my U-Haul. Yeah, yeah. I figured that's okay.
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One Good Korean
No. What do you call it? I call it just pigeon girl. I'm a pigeon girl. Oh yeah, I'm out. Really? I'm fucking out. I have huge tits. Okay, what else? And I love Korean men.
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One Good Korean
Do you like anything that doesn't come with a toy? Just make it up for Andres being gone.
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One Good Korean
Oh, I did that and it never came. I was so mad. Thing for the cats. You know why? Then I bought it on Amazon, the same thing, and the cat didn't even play with it.
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One Good Korean
Oh, I'd just move away. I'd hide. Would you get divorced though? No, I wouldn't even, I would not pass go. I'd just be, I'd be in the middle of Montana. Oh yeah. Glacier National Park.
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One Good Korean
He's gone. You would take the kids? If I had time. But if they were at daycare, I'd just be gone. First Greyhound out of town. What a man. Well, you know what it is.
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One Good Korean
Oh, yeah. He was poor. That was his real problem is that he didn't get any. I listened to a whole podcast about that.
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One Good Korean
Subsonic bullets. They don't go over the speed of sound, so then they don't make that big old pop. Oh, that's awesome.
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One Good Korean
A subsonic bullet to get the raccoon because it was eating our chickens. Eating our chickens, and that's kind of highly illegal in the L.A. city limits.
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One Good Korean
You want to be in it? Nah, I'm fine spiting from home. You know he's fleeing the country.
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One Good Korean
No, my dad pulled the Adventist card to get out of Vietnam. Your dad did? Yeah. He said religious reasons can't fight, so then he went and just got medical tested on for the war. What was the- It was the white coats. What was the religion?
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
That's what I love about America. We can protest. What was it about? They were mad at ICE. Oh, yeah. Oh, dude. And then tomorrow. Hey, are you going to not work tomorrow? Carlos? Oh, because of the protest against DEI? No, no. Tomorrow. What? They're doing. Hispanics are going to do a no work day.
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Sick In Japan
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, man. Your generation, your algorithms, your superiority, man. Us kids, we just want to learn by tactile approach, by touching, feeling, right? Learning through our own physical experiences, man. There's other ways that we can learn, you know, not just analytical.
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Sick In Japan
Exactly. But if you taught me the right way with love and empathy, I'd be able to absorb the information maybe. That's very good. But the beginning, the algorithm part, I didn't know what I was doing there.
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Sick In Japan
I'm a student. Ready? You're a teacher. Mr. Stevenson. Yeah. You know, I don't know what bathroom to use because I don't feel comfortable in the men's bathroom, even though I was born male. Right. But like, you know, I get stares when I go to the women's bathrooms. We got to do something as a school.
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Sick In Japan
Yeah, I wouldn't be a good teacher because I don't know knowledge and I don't have any topic.
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Sick In Japan
But, yeah, what if I had to be forced... To be a teacher at a school with the things that I know, what would it be about? Well, Star Wars, you could do some sort of- But I'm not that Star Wars- No, but I'm saying you could do like- Star Trek.
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Sick In Japan
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Golf. Yep, I could do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, but still, P.E., you could be a coach. I am a gym teacher. A gym teacher, right? I would be a gym teacher. I think you would know about history of hip-hop and music.
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Sick In Japan
I think that needs to change. I do, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I could do probably... Like more punk, you know what I mean? Art rock, you know what I mean? The history of punk? Or the history of alternative music, maybe I could do.
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Sick In Japan
The 90s is oldies? 70s, 80s, and 90s. So Creep is an oldie. Yes. That song Creep. Yes. How about I'm a Loser by Beck? Oldie. That's not an oldie. That's a newie, dude. It's a goodie, but it's an oldie. It's a goodie. Oh, wow. What's a newie?
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Sick In Japan
Oh, my God. I feel that. Would Harry Styles be newie? He's newishie. Newishie. Newishie. Yeah.
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Sick In Japan
Then why does he like us? Because we're new. We're newishie. We're newishie. You know that song? I don't know the lyrics, but it's a Harry Styles song. I'm zoning out. I'm swaying the stars. I'm down this way. What is this song? Wait.
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Sick In Japan
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Sick In Japan
Yeah! I'm legal. I'm legal. No, yeah, the people that are legal are also protesting for their people. Yeah, don't you get it?
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You guys, I would not be standing here right now or sitting here without it. My body does not move without energy shots. You know what I mean? Because I'm a sloth. Right. And I don't move to the rhythms of the universe.
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Sick In Japan
I love these shots, man. Like sometimes I'm super tired and I got to perform in front of, you know, thousands and thousands and thousands of people. I get a shot of energy.
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Sick In Japan
Juanita's fine? No, Marina. Okay. Listen, I want to say something up front, if I may. That's wrong. That's wrong. And one day we're going to have a Korean protest.
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
That would mean that I'm just too old. Well... It's like our Sinatra. You know what I mean? We're going to get there. Harry Styles will one day be like Sinatra.
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Sick In Japan
God, he's good though, huh? He's the best, Chalamet. Unbelievable, that kid. 200 years from now, what is the music going to be like? To us, it's going to be like, right, don't you think? It'll be like... Yeah, yeah. And people are just at the club, dancing to that. We're going to be like, what is this? Turn that fucking music down. And we're like, what the fuck?
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
And there's a little singer going, ding. He's going to ding. He's going to ding. Right? And we're like, what is this? But the kids are like, you're old. You don't get it. Yeah. You guys like lyrics. And like, you know, melody. Go write a poem. What's melody? Yeah. Loser. Oh my God. And what is the movie is going to be like? It's gonna be all around us. Like VR-y. Yeah, we'll be living in a movie.
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Sick In Japan
Yeah, yeah. For what? What? What's the protest? No more, we're not going to make bibimbap... Well, what will we do without bim bim bop? You know what we're also going to do? We're going to dig back our kimchi up from the ground. Unbury it? So they don't ferment for one day, dude. Wow. I don't like that. Yeah, I know, dude. You want them to ferment. I like kimchi a lot.
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
Imagine like you're in the Avengers. Because they're gonna do another Avengers 100 years from now. They have to keep making it. They're gonna remake it, right? But now, you know what I mean? I'm gonna be the cab driver. Yeah. You know that cab driver that just dies? You know what I mean? Because I was watching Avengers yesterday again for the 90th time. I get bored. You gotta.
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Sick In Japan
And I look at all the extras, right? The lady goes, ah! You know what I mean? With the briefcase down the street. You know what I mean? And I go, where is she going? Where is she going? Yeah, where is she going? But I also looked up the Avengers, that New York scene. I go approximate how many people died in that last scene. 2,600 people died there.
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
That scene, 2,600 people died and no one gives a shit about those people. They're gone.
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
Or maybe I could be Bob Dylan. I don't think so. The gullies are broken. The silly is gone. Yeah. You know what I mean? The mountains arise and the fountains are done. Keep going. Yeah. The Clippers are winning and the Lakers are done.
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
What do you think? Whoa. Pretty good. Dylan asked, right? You could do one.
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Sick In Japan
So that guy Scoot, who played Woody Guthrie, came to the OR, because he's dating my friend, Sosie. So Sosie goes, me and Scoot are coming and I got him a table and they sat and five comics all night long pointed to him and he goes, great job in the movie. He did do a great job. Like Marc Maron, like a bunch of people. And I could see him just like take it in. You know what I mean?
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
yeah two bears one minimum wow yeah you're right but it was nice to see so I shared with you what happened last Thursday for Timmy what it was a disaster and I'd like to share it on group level if I may give it okay I get a call from the little hobbit the punk rock hobbit you know who that is no the punk rock hobbit just think about it he's a comic The punk rock hobbit. Yeah.
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
Also, those girls at the karaoke, they're not working. No! Yeah, dude. What are those, glass girls? What do they call them? What did they call him?
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
He started- Josh Adam Myers? Started comedy late in life. Dean Del Rey? Yes. He calls me.
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Sick In Japan
Yeah. I'm doing this benefit show. Steven Tyler, baby. Yeah. Right? And I go, I don't do well in benefit shows. You're going to kill. So I show up and Steven Tyler is in the green room. Wow. I take a photo with him. Super nice. Did he ask you or you ask him? I think he goes, hey, let's take a photo. I'm serious. Yeah, yeah. I think that was the vibe. I know he's a fan. Yeah.
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Sick In Japan
And I sat there and I was like, this is cool. Then Josh Holm comes in from Queens of the Stone Age. Yeah. Let me say something. I'm one of his biggest fans. You love Queens. Not only that, I love them Crooked Vultures. Yeah. And I met him and I was just like, are you ever going to put on another Vultures album? He's like, I don't know. We're all, you know, our schedules and that. Yeah.
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Sick In Japan
And then Adam Ray goes up and he's pretty good and I'm after him. And so I go up, I open my mouth and I'm telling you guys right now, I know I told you guys this yesterday, right? I haven't bombed like this in years. It was silent in the room. And my time, because I want to kill. Because I'm like, my heroes are in the crowd.
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Sick In Japan
And about two minutes in, in my periphery, because I know where Josh Holm is sitting, I could just see him stand up and just walk up. Yeah, he walked out of the room. What if he was going to make another album? You could have inspired him. No, no, no. My heart combusted into my fucking chest plate. Well, Josh, please reach out. And then I go, you know what he's doing?
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
I'm proud. You were bummed too. No, I didn't give a shit at all. When your eyes crinkle, dude, that's jealousy. Yeah, you did that. You did what Clint Eastwood did. You know what I was on.
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
Yeah. Yeah. She wanted to talk comedy. And Adam's having a moment, that's great, right? But it's just like, it broke my heart. And you know what? The same thing happened to me 18 years ago, and I've never shared this, because it's so embarrassing. Give it. So there was this time where Anthony Kiedis was really hot on me. He was like, you're hitting on you? No, he loved my comedy. Oh.
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Sick In Japan
How about the ones that came over here illegally? Koreans? Koreans, yeah. Do Koreans come over here illegally? No, we follow the rules.
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Sick In Japan
And Court McCowan comes up to me and goes, dude, fucking, Anthony Kiedis is here with Sacha Baron Cohen and David Spade.
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Sick In Japan
So they sat, watched my set, and then they took me to dinner, right? And then he would invite me to shows, Anthony. And then I was doing a show at the El Cid, and he brought Flea, the whole band, and they sat in front. It was alternative room. Wow. Okay.
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
I bombed so hard that night. I never talked to him again. He never communicated with you again? No. Wow. I could see them blush and he was embarrassed. You've never bombed in front of your heroes.
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
So I have – there's a movie idea that my friend McGrail and I came up with. And there's a pretty big male actor that wants – that is curious about a role. Like a big guy. He's pretty – I don't want to say who it is, but he wants to see me. sometime in the next couple of weeks, perform. But I'm afraid that it's going to be another Josh Holmes situation.
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
No, I know. It's all in my head. He was so nice to me, by the way. And I'm a huge fan. He's such a great talent.
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Sick In Japan
And I've hit the ball so many times too. I mean, I mean. You almost always hit the ball. Almost every time I do. You know what I mean?
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
You look like you had a spiritual experience. You look like a different person.
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Sick In Japan
Yeah, I'd like to see them. Well, I'd like to see one. Whoa. Whoa, those are pretty good legs, actually. Thank you. They're World War II legs.
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Sick In Japan
You know what I mean? Like just a traditional white. That's Normandy. Those are Normandy legs. Yeah, Normandy legs, dude. Traditional white. Have you ever stormed a beach?
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Sick In Japan
You know who you're, you know what guy you are on Normandy? Who? The guy that kind of catches on fire. But then you run in the ocean.
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Sick In Japan
But then you run into the ocean. You're only half burnt, but then you pretend you're dead in the water.
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
Let's play it out, all right? We're in one of those, I don't know what you call it, but you know, in the beginning of Saving Private Ryan, they're in that boat.
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Sick In Japan
Yeah, but it's one of those boats where, like, you know, and they're always, like, either vomiting, right? And they're just super scared.
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Sick In Japan
whizzing by right and there's always one guy with a cross and he kisses it right there's always one guy like that and there's another guy going mama you know what I mean there's a mama guy always and there's one guy going yeah Rogan Joe Rogan overcompensating right jacked up on alpha right so then the thing closes goes down and then you see two or three guys in the front just go down right away
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Sick In Japan
Do you have an accent? Yeah, it's so thick. I had no idea. Well, then she's lying. She's a lying bastard. Okay, you be me and I'll be her. I'll show you how it went. I'm you? Yeah. Good morning.
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Sick In Japan
right what do you do what do you do so I see two people just die right away yeah well you're like fourth row you know what I mean yeah Frankie Castro dies in front of you right Devon Sanchez dies in front of you Marco Jackson Jackson dies in front of you yeah Marco Suano Marco Suano but dies in front of you and then what do you do
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Sick In Japan
They are. But you're a fucking captain. What do you call a captain? You're a sergeant. Yeah, a sergeant's going, come on, flame! Move forward, flame! Get going, Flame. And you're just going to sit there? People are dying. You just sit there, Flame.
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
It's pretty logical. It's pretty logical. It does make sense. Yeah. You know what? You probably go overboard on the other side, under the water.
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Sick In Japan
Because if you were in front of me and you weren't moving, right, I would throw you over so I could get forward.
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Sick In Japan
You know what I would do too? When he's down... When he's down, you know what I would do? I would steal something. You know what I would steal from him? His morphine packet. Oh, yeah. Morphine packet. Morphine packet. And you would feel every pain of your death. I wouldn't inject you with the morphine because you were a coward.
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
Bluetooth. I'm sorry, but without Bluetooth, maybe I'm not good. Right. Because I've been using it, you know what I mean? Because I'm an older male and sometimes I have, you know...
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Sick In Japan
Let's be honest, okay? If you really want to go on a date, we'll make it happen.
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Sick In Japan
Good luck? It was like, hey, thanks for all the laughs. You know what I mean? Because I make fun of her when she's, you know what I mean? I get it. So I just went, you know, señorita here. I don't know her name. You don't know her name? Yeah, I do. I don't want to say it, though.
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Sick In Japan
She's very pretty, yeah. She's pretty. We did not pay her to say it. Oh, okay.
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Sick In Japan
You grabbed it with your mouth. Like a seal, dude. You go, ah, and then go like that.
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Sick In Japan
Whoa. Whoa. Wow. And then, okay, so great. You going to take her on a date?
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
Wait, wait, wait. I'm sorry. Be honest with me, dude. Let's get this out in the open, dude. Why are you uncomfortable with just me being there?
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Sick In Japan
Yeah. Did you not have a car before? No, I did. Oh, you did. You always had a car. Yeah. I thought he didn't. A Subaru. Oh, that's a good car. Thank you. Yeah. Would you drive to Orange County to take her on a date? Mm-hmm. Okay.
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
Don't worry about it. No, how about this? A weekend. A getaway? A getaway, right? We will pay for everything. You just tell us what. Sky's the limit. Yeah, where do you want to go? Where do you want to go? We will. We're travel agents. Yeah. And, you know.
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Sick In Japan
Okay, Tokyo, Japan. That's great. Do you write that down, Tokyo? I did. I heard it. It's a little expensive. It is, but we're going to do it. First class? For both of you. First class, both of them. Interesting. Yeah, that'll be cheap. What hotel? We're already $10,000. Yeah, we're deep. This is bad.
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Sick In Japan
What hotel? Yeah, Park Hyatt. That's bad. Okay, he knows. How much is the Park Hyatt?
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Sick In Japan
Yeah, a couple thousand a night. A couple thousand? Yeah. How many nights is that? I think how long are you gonna stay there? A couple weeks. Oh, okay. 14 times what? Two and a half thousand. Yeah, yeah. So we're talking about 30 grand. Along with the flights, 40. We're about 50 grand.
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Sick In Japan
Yeah. Subway. Okay, that's another five grand. Two grand. Five. Five grand from Euro. All right. Can we go just like dumplings and stuff after that or no?
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
Do it. Leave the Koreans alone. Leave them alone. Leave the Koreans alone. Also, leave the Mexicans alone. Nah.
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
You're by yourself. Sick in Japan. Sick in Japan by yourself. That's the saddest.
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Sick In Japan
Because now, check it out, dude. Who's going to do those jobs? No, you're not strawberry. Oh, yeah, you look like you pick strawberries.
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
Pretty sick. Yeah. Did you fly first class? No. Why'd you ask first class for this trip?
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Sick In Japan
Right? One of those, you know what I mean? Chopstick hair things. You got to put those on.
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Sick In Japan
I love strawberries, yeah. I'd eat so many. Do you think I could pick cotton? Do you think I could? No. How many little swabs? I don't know how it works. Do you go swab by swab? It's swab by swab. Is it a puff? What do you call it?
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
Or we could maybe bring a friend of yours to shoot. He's going to work out there, right?
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Sick In Japan
Dude, look at how much. You're going to get sick out there. No way. You get healthier, if anything. Yeah. I managed us on a donkey with an eagle on our arm, dude. You and I. Us three going there.
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
Have you ever seen a skeleton cow? What is that next to that lady? That's insane looking.
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
Yeah, how do you do it? Do you use a scythe? No, do they do by hand? A scythe? Is that a real word? In Stardew Valley, we use scythe. Oh, scythe. Yeah, to get wheat. Oh, you mean like a sickle? Is it called a sickle or a scythe? Sickle. Okay, what's a scythe then? Dude, I hope to God that you read sickle as scythe. I think there's a scythe, dude. I'll kill myself.
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Sick In Japan
And what's business? That's insane. 20 grand? Yeah, we do business, right? We do business when we travel. We better be doing business. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't do first. Holy shit. Holy shit. Imagine that.
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
you want to go with him no okay but don't you want to go let's all go well we're going to korea aren't we we're going to korea that's what you say but i don't know man you not want to go i do want to go but is that real yeah it's literally i have to go so i know you have to go so you but who's gonna fly me there they will but they're gonna give me a business of course okay okay yes i'm acting like a baby yeah i'd like to go of course you're gonna go i'll go
Bad Friends
Sick In Japan
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've never done that at home? Come on, Dax. You know you've done different accents at home, not on camera because you're afraid to get canceled.
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Sick In Japan
Yeah. I mean, you've done like urban guys at home. You know what I mean? Yeah.
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Sick In Japan
I'm not going to say you're wrong. I've been saying scythe for years, dude, because it started. Is it scythe?
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Sick In Japan
That's not how it works. Explain to me what kind of trailer, what are the convenient things about it and the utilities and- It's got just like a trailer hitch and- We always wanted a trailer hitch. Yeah, yeah, hitch. What else?
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Sick In Japan
We love little beds. Little bed to bed? Yeah, little bed to bed. Little bed to bed. You have a medium bed to bed? Yeah. Okay, we'll get a medium bed to bed, yeah. And what else? TV. Oh, what kind though? Color. Color TV. Flat screen.
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Sick In Japan
It's got a curve to it. That's a sickle. Like a Grim Reaper. That's a sickle. That's not a sickle. It's a scythe. That's a scythe? No, a sickle is a handheld. No. Like a hammer and a sickle. A scythe is that, dude. With a hook. Scythe. Right. That's a scythe. Okay, what's a sickle?
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Sick In Japan
Like Frisco? We love North of Dallas. Don't we love North of Dallas? We love North of Dallas. We love it there.
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Oh my God. He's having a nervous breakdown. That's what I was saying. So weird. Seems like they have it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Sick In Japan
Don't say it out loud. We got some plans for you, bud. You like us as family. We feel like family to you. Yeah.
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Sick In Japan
Stop, stop, stop. Stop, stop, stop. Stop. Don't... Hold on, stop. I know what you're going to say. And I know this is a true story. I know this is a true story. Hold on. Yes, it is. Your friend's lying, okay? No. Yeah, yeah. And I did it in a funny way. You know how funny I am, right? Right? I do things in a comedic way, right? Do I not? You do. Right?
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Everything I say is like with a hint of like comedy, right? Say what she said. Let him say it. What did she say?
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Sick In Japan
Dude. He's our friend. Can we work out the conversation here, okay? Yeah. Oh, I'm friends with Dak. Yeah, he smells weird. What do you mean? I was kidding. That's not funny. I know. Maybe it wasn't. My bad. He doesn't feel it smell weird. That's why I could say it.
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Sick In Japan
Yeah. Can you call him and tell him you said that? Your friend, right? She has another thing coming now. Okay. Right. And I said it in a comedic way, but when you started talking, I knew exactly what you were talking about. Because when I said it, and this is what a great friend she is, she was so mad on your behalf. She was pissed. Oh my God, yeah. Will you call her right now? She's like, what?
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Sick In Japan
She goes, what the fuck do you mean? Great. And I go, I'm just kidding. Will you call her right now? Yeah.
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Also, can I just say another thing? I'm proud of you, Dax, because it's something that you wouldn't say. Right. Right? I feel like you're like, I want to, right? That you would hold things within yourself because you're kind of shy. And you were very confrontational there.
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No, I cannot believe it. i honestly do i didn't say it in like to be like offensive it was just like a funny thing we know it was a joke i know but it's like but she she was being a good friend to you what did she say she said no he doesn't what the fuck do you mean by that i was like oh it's just just kidding just kidding yeah and she was like no it sounded real and i'm like
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Sick In Japan
She's new to comedy. Well, new to stand-up comedy. Stand-up comedy. And so... Now, when she said it to you, was she saying it like, be careful of that guy, he's an asshole?
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Sick In Japan
Exactly. You don't use a sickle when you cut cotton. You don't use a scythe either, you fuckhead. I do. You don't. I get the ones far. Oh. You know what I mean? I pick the ones close and I get the ones far, dude. Cotton is just by hand, right? It's just pick, pick, pick. Oh my God. Can I wear gloves? I don't think so. I think that's part of it. I think. I can. You know what I would use?
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Sick In Japan
Oh my God, I'm embarrassed. Was this the girl that we talked about the other night? No. I'd never seen her before. She seemed super nice. You know what I mean? She was a little nervous about comedy because she even said that. She's like, I'm new to this. You'll be fine or something. You know what I mean? And then she goes, I'm friends with Dax. And I go, oh, yeah, he smells weird.
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Sick In Japan
And she goes, what the fuck? A different girl? No, the same girl. I would not say that again. One and done. Dax, can I say something?
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Sick In Japan
You've never smelled bad. I've never even smelled bad. When would I have the opportunity to? Well, he's here all the time.
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Sick In Japan
Yeah. And when you leave, we don't cross paths. So I want to say something. Okay. I said it as a joke. Okay.
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Sick In Japan
i don't know i was listen i want to say something to you okay i honestly i love you so much yeah and i'm it's a blessing that you get to do our show i mean that we have you on our show came out weird yeah yeah no no no that's not what i meant what i'm saying it's a blessing that you do our show we think you're an asset you make our show so much more interesting and fun i agree
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You're so important to us. I would never do anything to burn this bridge. I really think that you're a sweet guy. You're a funny guy. I think you're brave. When you did that show with us at the Comedy Store in the main room, you know how difficult that was and you crushed it? You know what I mean? I only see you as an ally and a brother.
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Sick In Japan
And I said it, I was trying to act cool because she was hot, your friend. His friend is beautiful, right? So I'm sorry.
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Sick In Japan
Those gloves that they use in the football games, the gigantic like finger ones.
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Sick In Japan
But back in the day, do you think in the 1800s, do you think you and I would be able to do it?
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Sick In Japan
I would be singing. Dude, you'd be singing with me. That's the movie we should make. Dude, you got to do the Irish song. Irish accent. Let me start. Yeah. Swing along, sweet chariot.
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Sick In Japan
Yeah. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That'd be great. That's crazy.
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Sick In Japan
That's, you know, when people say that, and I argue against it. What would we do in another time? Because I'm going to say something, okay? The way I am is because of the environment that I'm in. Hear me out there. No, you laugh at me, you mock me, dude, but I'm going to tell you something right now. You know, I just do what's necessary. No. Yes. I've always done what's necessary. Bare minimum.
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Yeah, but just survival, right? Yeah. So back then, I would do the bare minimum, but I would still be able to survive and eat and all that stuff. So I would work.
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Sick In Japan
I would be able to eat omelets. Omelet station. No, no, what I'm saying is I would probably make, came out wrong. These days with the price of eggs? No, I would, I would have figured something else out. I would also done like maybe prostitution. So you'd hook yourself out. I would do something that's going to be, or, you know, I know what I would do. Opium den.
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I would do something kind of borderline illegal. Right. You know what I mean? Right. This way, Mr. John. You know what I mean? And I would sit down, right? And I would supply, I'd have that supply chain going.
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Sick In Japan
Yeah, it would say Mr. Lee's. Mysteries. Yeah, mysteries. I see the fucking font.
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Sick In Japan
I see the lights. Right. It's like Vegas. Yes. Mysteries, right? Premium opium. Right? Discount for white. Wait, why? Just get people in.
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Sick In Japan
Get the bodies in there. And I would say no, you know, the other... Who's not allowed? Got it. I get it. Guess who?
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Sick In Japan
No fubu. I'm going to have different things in there, right, that's going to make my store shine. What? Foot massages. They got that? I know, but I'll do other things like Brazilian wax. This is all going back to... Red eyebrows. You're selling your body. Manicures. Yeah, I'll sit on your dick.
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No, it's not. No, it's not. Yeah. That's last case. That's first case. Case closed. First of all, have you ever tried to have sex when you're on opium? Have you? Yeah, it's impossible.
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Sick In Japan
It's hard to get hard. Yeah, it's hard to get hard. So I would like if some white burly guy was like jacked up on my premium opium, like straight from like, you know what I mean, the opium.
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Yeah, right from the opium. Straight from the tap. Right from it. Right? And they're still able to go, hey, man, let me get your butt over here. You know what I mean? I would be like, oh, fuck. This one, I have to do it.
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Yeah, but like before there was cocaine, if you and I were living in that time and you and I- Cacao, sorry. We were wanderers, right? Yeah. We're just wanderer, you and I, nomads. Nomads. And we saw that leaf- We wouldn't know what to do with it.
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Yeah, but then who was like, oh, this would be great in a powder and up my nose. Like, who came up with that?
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But. I did something in third grade about the microwave. Anyway, I was living in Minnesota and there was a girl that lived next to me and there was a rumor that she put a rabbit in a microwave.
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And when I found the rumor, right, I was so mad. I mean, I never met a rabbit, but I just remember as a kid going, fucking explore rabbits, man? Can't do that. Yeah, that's fucking bullshit, man. Bad. Right? So every time she would walk by in class, I would go, rabbit killer! And she didn't do it. It was just a rumor. Right. And one time she cried. In class.
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Because you kept calling her rabbit killer. Rabbit killer, yeah, yeah. And then the teacher brought me in front of the class and sat me down in a chair in front of the whole class and goes, you're short. You know what I mean? You're little.
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How does that feel? Like he was belittling me in front of the class because I was making, and I started to cry. Yeah. It taught me a really big lesson. Here's the lesson. Even if it's a rumor, you don't say shit, dude. Keep it to yourself. Keep it to yourself.
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You would have said that in class. I would have been so mad if somebody belittled my friend in class. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think now you can do it. I've seen TikTok videos where students talk back. The one kid is my favorite. That's like, instead of, you ought to be- Oh, yeah, I love that guy.
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Yeah, what he's like- Well, no, no, you make it up to me. It's like- Yeah, you know, Charles? Charles, you don't pay attention in class, right? And you're not putting your essays in early, right? You wonder why kids are failing. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You wonder why kids are failing. Let me get that over again. I'm not a good teacher.
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So, Charles. Yeah. You know, I'm tired of your attitude. You come to class late, right? You don't seem to, like, be interested in your book work. Right? And your essays are all over the place. I mean, what is going on, pal?
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That's so good. You don't even have to look that up. That was good, dude. I would never be able to do that. Yeah, you would. There's no way. Do yours. I can't do it, dude. There's no way. I can't even. All right, try it. Try it.
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She had masculine qualities that they did tip off in the movie a few times. And by the way, I know why you thought that was poop and not a penis. Because Mama Halkias was just feeding you that baklava, being like... Don't worry, baby. Don't worry.
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Right. You didn't have a jilted childhood where my dad was like, that's a dick.
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Yes. Do you masturbate to trans? Have you? You look so concerned. No, I'm just wondering.
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You're not a fan of the party? You don't want to show up? You know, because of Jim.
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Because of Jim Norton. Yeah, yeah. To his wife. No, no, no. I went camping with him.
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So, you know, when you're in a tent with Jim Norton, things are going to be said.
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Got it. In a tent with Jim Norton. Yeah, and he told me who, you know, who's, you know, the ones to watch out there.
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Yeah, so then I, you know, I like to pour different things. And I watched. And I jerked it.
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Yeah, yeah. So you have then. Yeah. Me too. Sure, yeah. Good. How about you, Hal? I've been free.
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What does that mean? I've seen it all. There's nothing I haven't seen on the internet. I feel like I've literally seen everything.
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I've seen it all too, but have you played with your penis by watching it?
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No, dude, I'm usually on there for research just to really intake information. I'm really looking at it from a cinematic point of view. Right, right. By the way, I will say there are some new age shit that's out there. The cinematography is incredible. Not bad, yeah. Some of these are so high end. They're doing such a good job now. It's like full production.
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Storylines are great and they're twisty. There's like lens flares. It's really good.
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Or like J.J. Abrams is directing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He loves those lens flares.
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Yeah, Bethesda has, you know what I mean, a new Indiana Jones game. Where do you find the time? Oh, the time is my own, in my hands.
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Yeah, yeah. You know what I rewatched on the plane? I rewatched X. Maxine, the first, you know, the X one. I haven't seen it. Dude, it's fantastic. It's so fun. It's fun. It's fun because there's nothing else like that out there. You don't see anything like that anymore.
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Was that the first one? Yeah. X, yeah. But it's super campy, which is like, it tips it. Dude, it's telling you it knows it's corny.
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So it's funny. I would love to do a horror movie.
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I would love to do a camping movie. A comedy camping horror movie. No, can't be. Can't be.
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Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
We can. We can do it right now, dude. Yeah, we can make one. Let me tell you something.
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We have to write it. And when I say we have to write it, it means we can't watch all three Indiana Jones one night. Yeah. We have to write the movie. I can write it.
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Adopted brothers. Yeah, we're all adopted brothers. Clearly. By the way, we had to lead that horse to water. You see, he wasn't going to go there.
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What are you talking about? I'm the one that said the brothers thing. But you stuck with brothers. I know.
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Yeah, and so then, you know, back in the 70s, right? Well, how about this? Same mom, different dads. I'm into that. That's fine. Our mom was just a party animal that was sleeping with all sorts of guys.
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Well, maybe I was told I wasn't adopted, but you guys know that I was. So that's a theme. We couldn't be brothers either.
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Between us developing the animated show and the game show, where do you find the time to do all this stuff?
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Him and I look literally fucking nothing alike. Exactly.
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And then she fucks John Goodman in the 80s. Yeah. To get him. And Pat Morita. Pat Morita for you.
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There's a tree too with all the names that our mom fucked. That's engraved into the tree.
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Well, it goes this show, Pussy, and then Indiana Jones, baby. I get it. What's up, dude? You know what I mean? That's the order, dog. And then fourth is Breakfast Burritos. I love Breakfast Burritos.
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It's a lot of names. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Think about this for movie-wise. Dude, we could get like nine films out of this.
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We're avenging our mother's death. We're trying to find who killed our mom. That's it. It was one of the guys that she slept with that killed her. Oh.
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Fuck. You know what I mean? It's a party at the beginning, but then it's like we got to get down to business. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We have to get real. We hunt down our mother's killer.
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But then there's one name on the tree that's written like there's blood in it. You know what I mean? It just says Frank. Right.
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But there's got to be a Bigfoot. Because we couldn't stop hearing about it. The beginning of the movie is just us as kids hearing about it the whole time. Everyone coming up to us would be like, Bigfoot has to be in it.
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Maybe that's Frank. I don't know. Frank Bigfoot Frank? Yeah, yeah.
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I like Bigfoot Vampire. Dude, he's hairy, but he wears a fucking black cloak. Right. Okay. You're like, you know, one of those black caves, but he's super hairy. Well, how about this? The idea is still the same, though. Yeah.
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Because vampires aren't really seen that often. Yeah. Bigfoot's never seen that often. So he moves as seamlessly as Bigfoot does.
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You don't want to have an idea, you know what I mean?
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So later in the movie reveal, we meet the guy, right? Frank the Vampire, right?
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No, we can figure it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that could be open to discussion.
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We'll go with that. No, no, no. The Manhattan killer.
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Oh, Luigi Mangione. Mangione. Yeah, yeah. We'll just call him Mangione. Mangione. Right, right. And later reveals, we see his penis, and it's been stitched on there, so he's got a Franken-dick, too. Oh, wow. You know what I mean? Okay. What do you think?
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It's like Shaquille O'Neal's dick. Like, it's a black dick. Okay. Yeah, yeah.
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Black dick. I get it. The tent. We're back to the tent. Wasn't Shaquille O'Neal in a movie called Shazam?
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Well, we combined the... That's fine. That's enough. You can't take it out. Art already built the dick. We already have them building it right now.
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Yeah, they're working on it now. All right, we'll keep it in there. All right, it's in. And, you know, for the airplanes, we'll just cut that scene out. That's too expensive. Too expensive. Okay, okay, anyway.
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You know who you are. Why am I Bigfoot, bro? No, no, no. It should be a dwarf. Bobby.
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Why are you downgrading to Littlefoot, dude? If your father's Bigfoot, you're Littlefoot.
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Bigfoot, thank you. That's my dad. Who is your dad? I know.
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I remember this movie, Little Bigfoot. It was a great movie. Oh, dude. That's our movie. Let's just remake that movie, dude.
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describe the whole thing describe the whole thing yeah I got it my dad will be Loch Ness the Loch Ness monster oh so we're incorporating more wow that's it I see that's very a redhead that's pretty cool dude yeah I apologize about the fucking Oompa Loompa dude that was my bad dude we'll come up with something better then okay I will who's his dad what who's his dad what is this guys
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Give me Greek mythical, Greek mythic. There we go. Let's go mythic. Greek mythical creature.
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That's so you, dude. What is that? A Tasmanian devil? What is it?
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Let's end the movie. Let's finish the movie. Okay, so like, all right. So we'll figure out who our dads are.
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We run into the fucking, the Vlad, the Sasquatch with the Franken-dick.
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Listen, if you're quiet, you can hear the zippers.
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Yeah, yeah. He didn't, you know, go, who's out there? Don't take it so serious, man.
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God, what a guy, huh? Luigi Mangione. Yeah. What a name. Mangione. Boycott McDonald's. Wow. Her name is Nancy Parker. Look at his chest. Yeah, look at this guy, dude. Dude, I would harbor him. Wouldn't you harbor him? Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's running from the wall. Come to my house. Come on in. I'm not gay.
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No, because I don't want Jim to hear it. You know what I mean?
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He'll go, whoa, dude. First of all, Jim knows we love and respect him. Yeah.
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But there's gotta be like a multiverse thing because all of them have it. We gotta put it in there.
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Really? Because if we go to another thing and then Sasquatch, like it could be like Emmanuel Lewis's, you know what I mean?
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I got to get out of the 10. You're right. You're right. Okay.
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No, but he used to, I remember I told you, he used to call me randomly at like 2, 3 in the morning.
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And you never would hang out? And I never would hang out with him. So sad.
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Yeah. It's cold in L.A. I never hung out with him because I don't, I don't know. You don't hang out. Yeah, I don't hang out. You don't hang out. Yeah, I don't hang out.
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If you're going to hang out, it'll be with me at most. Otherwise, you don't hang out.
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Or a girl. Do we have stars like that anymore, though? I mean, we had the Verne Troyers and the Gary Coleman's. There's no little. But he's not really a little. He's like a, you know. Peter Dinklage is a spotify movie star. That's right. You just threw it out there. He's the one. He's the one.
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Warwick Davis is still doing his thing. Vern Troyer, rest in peace. Tony Cox, rest in peace. What about that little guy that was R2-D2?
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Yeah, yeah. What's that guy's name again? I can't remember his name.
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Kenny Baker, that's right. No, he was famous. There's Kenny Baker. I don't know. Imagine being in that metal fucking suit all day long. Probably loved it.
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Not in the fucking... Let me hear you do some R2-D2 beep-bop-boop. Let me see. Beep-beep. No, they're not going to cast it.
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Okay, so I swear to God, I auditioned for that last one. You know the lady with the head thing?
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Right? In The Mandalorian? No, it was the lady with the head thing.
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And I auditioned for like a nine-armed alien, and I didn't even come close.
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But come on, dude. I'm making him a couple of breakfast burritos.
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No, I'm just saying, what do you think it was? What the fuck are you implying? What do you think the reason you didn't even come close was?
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I didn't read good? They didn't see me as the part, bro? What are you fucking implying, dawg? Well, nine arms is hard to fit on your little body.
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I mean, they get maybe six. Well, I mean, they could be small arms. They gotta be real small. I mean, those two barely fit on that frame. Stop it, dude. It's good. Stop it, but it's true. I think you're right. Also, nine. How are they going to get it? They could rewrite it. Why an odd number of arms?
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Dude, he's like Bruce Banner. Not Bruce Banner. He's like Bruce Wayne. Hi, Luigi. You slept in last night. What have you been doing this morning? Running from the law?
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No, it was an actual guy. Practical costume. Practical costume.
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I never get those things. He's probably such an accredited actor that we're like, I get it. I mean, do you read for, have you ever read for a Marvel or a Star Wars? Buddy, what are they going to do with me? Yeah, yeah.
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I have, and I never get them. If I could have gotten anything, it would have been whatever Burr did in The Mandalorian.
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Yeah, if they were like, let's go get fucking Santino.
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Well, you know what? We do. Come to think of it, you look like BB-2. What's the new little robot?
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That is me, dude. That is me. All right. You win this. That's so obvious. Literally, dude. You win this, dude. That is me. He was cute. What did he say? How was he talking? He was really cute. He didn't really speak, did he? He was so cute, that guy. Well, I can't understand you most of the time, so that lines up.
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Yeah, I'm Babu Frick, dude. Babu Frick. What a cute one. Whoever made that, dude.
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I haven't seen any of the new ones. I'm just not there.
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Would you like to play some Star Wars trivia or no? Shoot for the hip. Okay. Go, baby.
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You were a boy. Luke Skywalker's uncle. What was his name? He got burnt to a crisp. Remember? You guys know? I got to know.
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Yeah. By the way, bad character name. Owen? Owen is just kind of like a weak name.
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There's no depth to it for how like... Wasn't he Ben Kenobi's brother though? No.
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I think there was a relationship between Owen and Ben Kenobi that's family. What? That they were related? I think so. What is it?
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I mean... Owen Lars is Anakin Skywalker's stepbrother, perceived as the brother of Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi.
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You were holding space? What do you... You think he's going to go to prison?
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Oh, so there is some family thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Mm-hmm. So then those little guys in Star Wars, they're wearing monk hoods. They're little with glowing gold eyes.
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No, the Sand People were the Iranians or whatever. Oh, careful.
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But that's not who I'm talking about. Was it my uncle was in this movie?
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Yeah. Sand people are the ones that try to kill Luke, right? They're two different things. You're not going to get away with this guy, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're not... No, they're not the same thing. Look up a sand people in Star Wars. Look it up. Give me the image.
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Wait a minute. Look up sand people on Carlos' computer? I'm afraid I want to come back up.
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Yeah, pretty sure. I think if you kill someone, you shoot someone in the back. I'm going to tell you what's going to happen. Oh, okay. Give it to me. You're the DA? No, I'm not the DA. I'm Bobby Lee. What's going to happen? What's going to happen to this guy?
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And can we say person of sand instead of sand people?
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Okay, can we continue? You haven't answered anything. I don't want to. Yeah, yeah, you're going to. I let you go. No, no, no. First of all, you asked him for the call. I'm going to ask you now. Okay. Okay. What planet does Yoda live on?
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Yeah, that's right. That's right, bud. I do know that. Last question.
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But Battlefront was fun. You know how Battlefront's played?
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No, I don't play. How was Battlefront? How was it played?
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Well, so you just play as like... It's like Stormtroopers versus the Rebels, right? And there's like... You're playing everyone online and you're a Stormtrooper, right? And it's like just chaos, right? I mean, you're like killing Rebels, right? And if you kill enough in a row, you get to choose to be, you know what I mean, Luke Skywalker. Like if you get enough kills. And then for like...
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A minute, you have a lightsaber, and you can just fuck people up. It's such a fun game. Oh, that's pretty nice.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's move on from Star Wars. I feel like I'm boring you.
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You never saw Phantom Menace, the new ones with J.J. Abrams ones? None of the new ones, no. Wow, you've seen them. Yeah. Yeah, because of the little guy.
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Only when I was a kid. I only saw the ones when we were young. Okay, okay. And when I was in high school, I liked them. You're not a sci-fi guy, though. Not a sci-fi guy. Yeah, yeah. You're a sci-fi, right?
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Sci-fi has to be, for me, like, no, I like fantasy more than sci-fi.
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I like fantasy over sci-fi. No, I just like whimsical shit. I think like out-of-world stuff that's like weirdo shit.
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I'm not going to say that it's better than Star Wars. Star Wars is just so good because when we were kids, it was so different.
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And it was the only thing that was in fucking space.
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I was more to like- Blade Runner. Comedy whimsy, like Coneheads, loved.
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Like comedy whimsy, like impractical comedy, I love that.
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Yeah, shit that's obviously not real. I love that. I mean, like Princess Bride might be one of the best written comedy films of all time, front to back.
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And the whimsy in that movie is fucking incredible.
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It's a great movie. Were you a never-ending story guy?
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Yes, I loved that shit. Fucking loved. Atreyu? Never ending story. By the way, you know who followed me on Instagram the other day? Speaking of fucking. The dog from that movie.
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First of all, Atreyu's name, his dog is not the name.
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What about the big turtle? Do you know the name of the big dog? No. Okay, give me the first. F. He just said it. No, he didn't. Did you say it? Shut up. Yeah, yeah. F. There's the turtle.
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Falkor. Falkor. Yeah, my dog. What's the turtle's name?
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Oh, wait, yeah. Oh, you know who? Follow me on Instagram. Mandy fucking Patinkin. Wow, that's huge. Who's that? You don't know who fucking Mandy Patinkin is? You're a cinephile.
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So Mandy Patinkin played Inigo Montoya, who goes after who in the film? What famous director do we know that you and I have both worked for play the six-fingered man? Bring up a picture of the six-fingered man from Princess Bride. This is incredible. You've worked for this man. Who is that guy?
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You know what also, dude? He has the same thing you have.
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Yeah, I know it's Christopher Guest, but I never worked for him. Wait, I thought you did. That's, you know what? That's another way of you slamming my career. And that's so fucked up that you do that. So now you're going to, you know, I'm going to go, I never worked for him. You're going to go, oh yeah, my bad. And then now I'm hurt.
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How did you work for him? How did you work for him? I'll give you six degrees of Kevin Bacon. You worked with his wife in a major motion picture.
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That's true. Okay, so that's enough. How did you work for him?
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How did you work for him? On a comedy project that we were just- Yeah, he would never call me in.
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No, he told me he was going to call you in. Couldn't get a hold of you. Why are you getting so defensive? I'm not being defensive.
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He has a way of going side and then hurting me. I thought you did something with him. I never did anything with him.
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Back problems. I saw that. Yeah, yeah. You don't see me out there shooting anybody?
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What about the movie he did with the little people? With everyone in the costume? You didn't do that?
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No, I didn't do the little people. Willow? What are you talking about?
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What was the one where everybody was a mascot? I don't remember that.
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Yeah, I auditioned for it. I thought you did it. No, I never did it. I auditioned for it.
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I did a show for him called Family Tree. I did one throwaway episode.
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That's great. It was fantastic. Congratulations, Andrew. Thank you so much. God damn it, dude.
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Show up. Show out for your boy. Atlanta, Georgia. Charleston, South Carolina. Then Philly. I'm playing the Met. I cannot wait. Philly, I love you so much. You dirty birds. New York. I'm at the Beacon. Then I go to Phoenix. San Francisco, two shows. San Diego, two shows. Boston, four shows. Four shows in Boston. Come out and see your boy. And then three shows as of now in Minneapolis.
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I don't, but maybe it's not bad enough yet. But somebody, if they keep it up, they might get shot. You're talking about me? No. You'll never shoot me. I'll shoot you first. I know.
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I like how you pretend like you've never seen this show. This is exactly what he does. That is true. Can't wait.
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Now he's acting out. No, I'm kidding. Very good job. I need you around more. How about this? This will get him in a good mood.
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Oh, my God. That's the National Football League.
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That's right. And scoring touchdowns is key to winning the playoffs, Bobby, and you know that better than anybody.
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He's not going to get acquitted. He's going to prison for a long, long time.
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Get back to reality. The movie is getting a lot of talk, by the way.
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But if you read the comments online, the people are behind him.
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Now, how did this... Is it something that you had pitched or is it something you just got cast in?
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You just inspired me. I think we're going to do it.
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Yeah, yeah. You know what we got to do, though? Right. I will write. We have to do it. We're going to do it. You'll do it? Yeah, 100%, dude.
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I want to do it really bad. That'd be great, dude. Because, you know, it's inspiring. You know, it's like, I think you're right. I think we have... I mean, because you get approached all the time, you know what I mean? To read or like, you know what I mean? To look at my script, but it's like- I don't. Oh, really? You're trying to do a Christopher Guest thing again? You think I'm doing that?
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I don't get it all the time. I don't get approached all the time. I don't have a deal with NBC in place where I'm developing a show about an Asian- You want one for Hulu? I don't have one. You have a Hulu show?
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I have a special on Hulu. And a show with me on Hulu.
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Yeah. You get life. I get 20. No, they would have shot me at the McDonald's. Can I have a number? Right? Put the big back down! Yeah, I'd be dead. But no, the good looks helps. I'm on Osempic!
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Love it. I don't want to give it away, but, dude, there is. Trust me. Don't worry about it. I'm interested. We already have the people that we have in our sight lines of who we want on this show. And Bobby wants a lot of good cameos in the pilot, so Bill Cosby said he would do a pilot.
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We never really... Yeah, not gotten out of... I believe... We never got... Not even... You actually did. No, I didn't.
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Oh, because I was gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's actually true.
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Let's see you read the news. Give us, bring up, bring up. You're right, you're right. Wait, wait, bring up the shooting in Midtown and let me see him read this as if it, let me see you read this. Let me see if you could. I wasn't even vying for the part. What the fuck is going on here, dude? Let's hear it. I wasn't, right? Zoom in, right? There you go, just the first line. Yeah.
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You need a name. Yeah, I'm Troy Fugimoto for ABC Channel 7 News. Luigi Maggioni, the suspect in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, is fighting his extradition to New York where he faces a murder charge. He was denied bail during a court appearance in Pennsylvania. I can't believe you can't do that with the ad reads.
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Yeah, yeah. It takes us an hour and a half to do an average. And that was just cold reading, so could I have done it? You could have. If I would have practiced. You're that talented.
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Yeah, it's okay. We've heard that our whole career. And trust me, the next project I have, you don't have the look for any of those.
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I don't care. I get how it works. I didn't come to your mind. It's fine. It's fine. I have no resentment.
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Yeah, but the good looks helps. It doesn't help. It's the only thing. It's the thing. Look, they posted this photo of him in People magazine.
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You always get offers and you say no, so don't complain. I do not. Yeah, you do every time, dude. That's not true. I was pumped to have you on Tires. Yeah, did you do tires? We were in Australia. Oh. Oh, tour. Yeah, we tour too. We tour.
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Yeah, and I'm not doing cult part two or whatever the fuck in the movie.
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Can't play a newscaster. I'll fucking show you, dude.
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Yeah. Connie Chung, bitch. She is so much more static. You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. Yeah, you know, I'll be honest with you, Star Bros, in the animated show, we're going to get you a lot of work there.
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And whatever projects that we come up with and that I'm involved with, I will have you on because I just think you're super talented. I know the street doesn't go both ways. No, it certainly doesn't. But, but, but, but, but, but, but.
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Yeah. He is hunky though, huh? They're glorifying him. Let's be honest. Yeah, he's a really good looking kid. He's the opposite of Stavros.
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Go ahead. Listen, sometimes streets don't go both ways, right? These two streets do. Dude, these streets? These are two ways. Two ways. Two ways. And a freeway off ramp. There's a freeway off ramp. There's the whole thing. And an on ramp. Bridge, all that stuff, right? Dead end. This is a one-way dead end street, right? But it's fine, dude.
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I did not like it. You didn't finish this piece of shit baklava, dude. My Korean grandmother can make better fucking baklava than this bitch.
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I'll eat it on camera. Please do. What do you think? What's the brown one? If you say the brown one's not good. The one that looks like poo, you mean?
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Can I say something about this exchange right now?
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I just want to put this out to the world so people understand because we're such close friends. But Bobby, you don't let no Asian comedian talk about no Greek mama's baklava. That's law. That's true. Don't let no Asian comedian talk about no Greek mama's baklava. That's the law.
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You know where I come from? We talk about Greek mama's baklava.
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Eat the brown. Let me describe it first. Okay? This is like donkey poo. No.
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Dude, don't be out of line right now. I'm being serious.
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This guy's mother is a fucking queen and made this for you. You eat it and you'd be fucking nice. You'd be nice.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the opposite of Stavros. They have the same sex appeal for two different reasons. That's what it is. But this guy's going to prison for life.
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Keep in mind, when the show's over, he can fuck you up.
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I know you could. And let's get out- Yeah, you're a man. You're a man, dude. Right? You got man strength. All right, take a bite.
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Go ahead. Take a sip. Don't have to chew into the mic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking people and audio. People in their cars. Oh, they're so pissed.
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Rated, honestly, out of 10. Out of 10. I call it the Bangladesh road cookie. No.
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It's a Bangladesh road cookie. It's the same thing.
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And what I'm saying to you, dude, is this, right? That's free in Bangladesh.
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Close your eyes. Bangladesh road cookie? Yes. do not play that this is so good you know I've said nothing but good things when I take these home it's the Ozempic I'll take the whole thing home great because I fucking love it I can't put anything down just tell me the taste is good it's phenomenal the honest truth I'm going to be real what kind of desserts do you like? I don't know. Duck feet?
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Stavros and Ian Finans, these whites, I know he's Greek, but these whites are my type, but they still get more girls than me.
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You ever had duck feet? Let me be completely and utterly honest with you.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. The flavor was good. The texture is not my thing.
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Yeah, it kind of just crumbles in your mouth and it's not my thing.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's just my own thing. That line is so funny.
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It kind of just crumbles in your mouth. That's delicious.
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It's got like a pumpkin spicy kind of vibe to it. It's phenomenal. It's a white people flavor.
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Giannis' mom and John Stamos' mom would make better cookies.
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Damn. Yeah, yeah. Fuck you. Yeah, fuck you, Stavros. Fuck you. Stavros. Okay, so they're okay, guys. Honestly, bro? Yeah. I don't like this behavior, but man, you're coming out swinging, dude. You're swinging right now. It's insane. I mean, it's the truth, and I'm a truth teller, am I not? You are a truth teller. I lay things out on the table, and I'm all feeling based.
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There you go, truth teller. Look into your glass ball.
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Oh, I see, okay. Read our fortunes. Yes, your mom isn't hairy enough to be Greek.
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I just don't do crystal ball improv. Yeah. Yeah, I've never learned it.
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That's more groundlings. That's groundlings stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know what, dude? It was pretty good, and thank you so much. But can I be honest with you? If you never brought cookies here again, I wouldn't really even think about it. I would think about it because I'd want them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So bring them for me. Honestly, can you get this trash here? Oh, my God, dude.
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How, dude? How full do you want it to your cup? I mean, come on. They're white.
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I'm being real. I'm being real. I'm being real. Because I don't want it in front of me.
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McCone, if you bring a trash can over here and throw that in the trash can, I'm going to be fucking pissed. Oh, my God. Thank you, McCone.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Don't do this. Don't do this. The disrespect is crazy. Look at my eyes, dude.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Do not throw those in the fucking trash! Beat it. Beat it. Beat it, kid. Then he beats it to the kid? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Garbage.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
How do you say garbage in Greek? Teach him how to say it just so he knows.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Scoopedia. Play it for us. Click it. Yeah. Huh? Scopedia.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
You need to get back in the tent. You need to be more loving.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
You know what's kind of beautiful about that? That is true. He shouldn't be insecure about anything. No, he shouldn't. He's a perfect little being, but why are you? He is. I feel like I'm being attacked.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
That was the point I was trying to make, but the way you said it really hurt me.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
By whom? Okay, let's go back the last 40 minutes. That's not even it. No, that wasn't even it, right? Number one, the fucking short round slams. You started it. Okay, number two, the fucking Franken-dick like I want to suck dick or something. Dude. I don't. I don't want to suck the dick. I don't want to suck the dick, all right? Okay.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
And then number three, to pile it on, you know, he offered everybody in town a role in his movie except me. That's not. Right? Because I'm not versatile enough to play a fucking news anchor, okay?
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
They do get whites. Yeah. They get whites. They're white. You get off-white.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Yeah, yeah. Okay. It's fine. Which is an insult to me more than anything.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
His mom never bake him cookies. That's what this is about. His mom never bake him cookies. I see his brain working a thousand miles a minute. His mom never bake him cookies.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Nostorafu. Yeah. Nostorafu. Are you looking forward to it or no? Big time. Yeah, me too. Aren't you? Robert Eggers. I love him. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It'll be fun.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Yeah, I get brown. Is he here? Don't tell him I said that.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Anyway, we're not going to see it. I don't know what it is. It just turned me off. The preview doesn't look good. Coney and I talked about it too. I'm not a huge Dylan guy. Yeah, I don't give a fuck.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
I know, but even still, my dad's a boomer though. He just never was a Dylan guy either.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Highway 61 revisited. You didn't like that? Blonde on blonde. Blood on tracks.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
You say his name once. Yeah, yeah. But seriously, you do know he's going to get life imprisonment. He can't get off. There's no way they'll let him off. I mean, it was too egregious, the crime.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Well, yeah, because after Vietnam, you kind of were- Fuck you.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
After Vietnam, that's when you found your niche. That's like when you really started to groove.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
You're fresh out of Vietnam. Yeah, you got back.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Yeah. You were two. No, I wasn't even born yet, thank you.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
I'm not that old. You did have to siphon through that brain.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Oh, shit, dude. No, you look great. You have a baby face. Thank you, thank you. So when you hear my age... You also kind of have baby hair. Yeah. That's good. That's really good. So 53 is old. No, it's not old, dude. We're just fucking around. It's not. No, I'm just saying, but that's much older than you got. No, you're 40. I'm 41. You're closer to death for sure.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Yeah. Okay. Because of your lifestyle. We've talked about that.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Yeah, I mean, I probably had like life experiences different than you. I think like, you know, when I was in high school, there was no cell phones and stuff. Did you have cell phones when you were in high school? Yeah. Yeah, we didn't have that. Or internet.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
T9. Yeah, T9 texting. People got cell phones. My senior year, people started to like, it started to become a thing.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
I did get one at the end of my senior year. Yeah, I did get one.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
A little Nokia brick. And that game Snake, I played like one time 12 hours all day long.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
See, I'm generation, I'm Super Nintendo. Yeah, me too. You're a Super Nintendo too? Mm-hmm. I'm Nintendo first, but then SNES was my shit. Okay, see that, right. So I guess I'm more Nintendo, you're more Super Nintendo. Guess what I am. And you're more Atari. No. That is Atari.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Oh, Intellivision, yeah. You know what Intellivision is? Were you plugged in the fucking thing?
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Why would he? Yeah, you're right. There'd be no connection to be made.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
One of your cousins made it. Yeah. Intellivision was incredible. Oh, my God.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That looks pretty fun. They are pretty tight. You didn't know any better. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh, the cookies worked. Yeah, it was a cookie.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
my mom heard you cursing right right she'll hit you from anywhere she's good like that there was like in television there was a game that was like a Dungeons and Dragons game but basically it was like this just a box and you were a dot right I remember oh yeah I do know this right like that that was pretty much what it was and I went over to my friend's house and he goes check this out and see where the green is those are areas that you're not supposed to go right bad boy but he goes check this out and he went through into a green area and he goes secret room
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
But I haven't read like one negative comment about him.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
That's because people, look, that's because the society is fed up with the way that things are going in the healthcare industry. Yep. Doesn't mean you should kill a guy though. I think you're right. I think it doesn't mean you'd shoot him. Well, because he had kids. Even if he didn't, you don't kill the guy. You don't kill somebody. Yeah. Can't go out and kill. That's not how we fix everything.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
It is the- Secret room. No one has to know what we do in here.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Yeah, shaky lashing out for no reason. And it's not... I respond to energy.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
And your energy was a little too much. You came in here like you're the boss and I want to push back.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
You wanted to make sure he knew you were the boss.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, so. That looks fun. Congratulations, everybody.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
No, but can I tell you about Dungeons and Dragons real quick?
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
There's a Dungeons and Dragons movie that Chris Pine was in. Yeah?
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
It's called... What's it called? The End of Thieves or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Honor Among Thieves. That movie was so surprisingly good. Here's my problem. I've heard that.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Here's my key problem. Why is there a Hawkeye in Dungeons & Dragons thing? Well, he's a rogue.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Stavros, now we're back on the same page. He was a rogue.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
He was obviously a rogue. Make this entire cast unattractive. Oh.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
But I really like that movie a lot. That's what every guy who plays thinks they look like.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
That's the irony. Now, if we were in that world, would you get goblin pussy? Me? Without question. Yeah, yeah.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Fairy elf. Every once in a while, you'd get a little goblin pussy. Can I tell you something? Yeah. I'd stick to my elves. I'd stick to my elf, my fairies. I'd stick to my- Fairies are tiny, though.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Imagine fucking a fairy and then she's like, is it in?
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
yeah but what would you be would you be a nymph I'd like a nymph I'd be more into those I'd be into alchemy ooh you'd be a wizard a warlock you'd be a warlock like potions you know that's my whole thing I'd want to be one of those big I'd want to have a big axe
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Luigi, the hero of 2024, says that guy. Read all of them. Insanity plea. Oh, they're trying to give him an insanity plea.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
He wants alchemy. Oh, you're like Gimli. I want to be a brute. You're like Gimli. He wants alchemy so he can like pour himself a pocket pussy. Yeah.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
I like collecting things, you know what I mean? Like mushrooms and whatnot.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
You're a forger. Yeah, forger. What would you be in that world? Oh, you know, I'd be carrying some sort of weapon. I'd be defending the community. Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. I'd be a brute. Yeah, you'd be a brute.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
I'd be a brute. No, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy. No, dude. You'd be my companion. I'd be a brute. Someone's got to see over the trees. Yeah.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
No, you're like Samwise Gamgee, the emotional support.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Yes. No, no, you're a physical man. Okay, how about this? You and I would be a team. Just say that. We'd be a team, and how about this? We'd be a team, you're getting crazy goblin pussy, and I'm focused on the mission.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
And I'm like, stop, we have to go. Let me hit this real quick.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
And then I would say, can I go with you guys? Yeah.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Because I've never seen a dragon before, and I know you guys are going to go hunt that dragon.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Not on this journey. No way. Why are you going to Mount Lonely?
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
But then where would you go? Are you going to Carlsbad? Or Bakersfield?
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
I mean, where are you going? Do you know about the sand people?
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Oh, yeah, okay. We're going to see that. Okay, so you wouldn't invite me to the event?
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
So let me throw you some things. Damsel in distress, would I get to go?
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
TMZ free Luigi mugs and cups on sale use code bad friends at free Luigi despite who the man worked for that's not okay I don't like that they keep doing this I don't like this he was someone's son and a dad he's just a guy what do you mean it doesn't matter if he's a father if he's single if he's married he's a guy you can't fucking just kill a guy in cold blood like you can't you can't you can he did it well but he's gonna suffer the consequences yeah you're gonna go to prison for life
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Ooh, you're not getting invited to the damsel in distress. Oh, interesting.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
I wouldn't be mad because you actually invited me into your movie. Okay. Right. It's when you don't invite me is when I get mad. Do you see how that works, fuckface?
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
You understand how that works, fuckface? So if you invite me, I'm jolly because I like to feel included, you fuckface.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
I'm so sorry. You're right. We would take you on a mission. My bad.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Yeah, yeah. I wouldn't have read it. Immediate now. Well, everybody at home needs to go watch it. Watch it, because I read a couple of reviews. I'm lying. Go on Rotten Tomatoes. Yeah, go check it out.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
All right. Now go to Borderlands. See what I got. What did that get?
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Oh, man. Okay. That's bad. It's not bad. I got a couple of those. It's fine. It is what it is.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Me time's got to be at 5% maybe. Maybe 4.5%. Seven.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Well, because it just doesn't matter. It's just they pump these things out.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
That's the thing. They just pump them out. But you know what? They're not pumping out Let's Start a Cult. They're not pumping out stuff like that.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Go watch it. Yeah, but guys like us, though, right? We're in movies like this. They're fine because they're like, oh, I got nine movies I'm about to do. And they just got- Him and I are going to be like, okay, I guess this is it. Yeah. This is what we get. Yeah, this is what we got this year. You know what I mean? It sucks.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Yeah. Well, go watch Let's Start a Call. Go see Stavi, baby, on tour. Buy the count. You know I love the coffee.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Let's go have dinner. What a fun- No, we'll have dinner tonight. Let's have dinner. Let's go. All right. Thank you for being a bad friend. Thank you.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Holy smoke, Dr. Jones. By the way, you know how much happier- Let's go around.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
How much happier would- Indy, Indy, holy smoke. I love it. I know you do, buddy. How happy would society be if he just punched him? then you would get nothing. Just knock him out then. If you're so angry, would have made the same news, you wouldn't be on the run.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Maybe we added a fourth. We don't know. Who knows? Come out and see me, Minneapolis. I love you guys. AndrewSantino.com. Go to AndrewSantino.com. Who are these two idiots?
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
But you also imagine all the people that have died because of United Health Insurance.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
I know, but he is a symbol of it. And it's like he has some power. Sure, but you can't advocate.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Does he not have any power? You can't advocate for murdering him because of it. Yeah. It doesn't make sense. You can't. I mean, I'm sorry. You just cannot. No, I'm not sorry.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Yeah, yeah, you're from the streets. That's how they handle things in Poway. Bobby is pro-assassination.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
No, I'm not pro-assassination. I feel empathy for his family. You know what I mean? You feel empathy for Luigi? No, for Brian Thompson. Is that his name? I have no idea. Yeah, Brian Thompson's family. Funny, we know the killer, not the killed. Yeah, yeah.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
That's a symptom of America. Look at this here. There he is. There he is. What's up, buddy? Love. And give me a calendar. Is that from Mama Stavros?
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
You got to get these calendars, guys. These calendars are incredible. We hang them up in the front room of our studio. Wow. Don't give any away. I don't want anybody to see any photos. Wow. Stavi, baby.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
How'd you get her? I don't know how you got her, but that's great.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
So let me say something. You're not on Ozempic, right? I'm not.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Have you ever thought about getting on it? Because I'm on it.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Stand up and show him your stomach. It's unbelievable. He's losing his butt.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
He's losing his BBL. It's going away. That's what we're concerned about.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Try Huel with 15% off today using code BADFRIENDS at my.huel.com slash BADFRIENDS. Hey, Bad Friends! I'm finishing up my tour in 2025. Happy 2025 to you. Let's finish it beautifully before I shoot my special Chicago. This week, I'm in my hometown of the Chicago Theater. I think it's sold out. Maybe some standby tickets. Come see me. Then I go to Durham, North Carolina. Come on, Durham. Show up.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
I want my ass to be tan. Whoa, dude, look at those calves, dude. You know what I'm saying?
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
It's raining and fucking... By the way, it could either be tan with you or gout. I have no idea.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Yeah, anyway. They survived. They survived. McCone! Good boy.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Yo, your mom makes the best shit on earth. They're so good. Mama Jalquias is honestly... Baclavá.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
We're bad friends. You know, I've been watching all the Indiana Jones, and I know which one I like. You know which one do you like?
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
What's your favorite Indiana Jones movie? Oh, my God. The first one. Everyone's is the first one. Why do you keep asking that?
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Okay, can I tell you about the second? Because I rewatched all of them yesterday.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
I don't read them. Let me say something about it. I'm mad at two. I'm mad at the Temple of Dune. I'll tell you why.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
because when I was a kid I saw that movie and then they're in some Indian palace the food comes out and in my mind I think that that's Indian food right they bring out a gigantic bow constrictor and then they open it and there's 50,000 other snakes in it now they still do have that dish There's another one where it's a tray full of beetles. Yeah, the beetle.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
And they eat the underbelly of the beetle. I don't remember this. And then monkey brains. Monkey brains is my favorite part. And I remember as a kid, I'm like, oh, I don't like Indian food.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
I don't want to eat, Dr. Jones. I don't like monkey brains. Yeah, yeah. I forgot. I've run into monkey brains.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Zoom into that photo. No, go back to the. That's a monkey. Yeah. Zoom in. Yeah. The original photo you were just at. Not that one. Go back to the first one. Now zoom in. You see that guy right there? Oh, yeah. That's a white guy that they just got all dressed up.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
All right, right, right. So funny. And that's Steven Spielberg's wife.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Yeah. It is his wife. Yeah. You think that's how she got it?
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
I think she auditioned. She went through the process.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
It was an offer over. I bet she read three or four times for that.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Oh, really? And remember that guy eating the monkey brains? Yeah. Look, Eric Griffin made it into the film somehow. Yeah, yeah, there he is. Wow. Eric's in it. He looks good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How clearly is that Jell-O? Go back. Look, they didn't even try. Sometimes you see special effects and stuff like that in the movies today, and you're like, it looks too cheap. Go back to the original Jell-O.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Look, that's Jell-O. That's just Jell-O. They could have tried a little bit.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Yeah. I don't want to school you guys. School me, kiddo. Can I school you for a second? Please. That's frozen monkey brain. Oh. That's why it's that color, dude. Sorry about that, dude.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
No. Yes. It has nothing to do with short round. I think the third one's the best one.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
I don't know, dude. You're moving at the speed of light right now.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
I don't know how it works. Way too fast. I'm just going to correct you guys. It's not just regular monkey brains.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
That's the best one. It's not the best one. Number one is the best one.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Yeah. But in the temple, my dog. He also runs into Hitler.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
The third one. Yeah. Yeah, with Sean Connery. Which one was that called? The Last Crusade. The Last Crusade. The Last Crusade. You know, Lost Ark is okay. I think it's great. It's not bad. Yeah. Lost Ark is amazing. The first one? I haven't watched any of those in so long. I know, because the reason why I'm re-watching it is because I'm playing the video game. Oh, on Xbox? Fuck.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
She was so hot, by the way. She was a Nazi. The Nazi was hot.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Oh, she was hot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Such a hot Nazi, dude. And she had to read a bunch of times. She had to read a bunch of times. No, no.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
No, I saw the documentary. Really? She got the role? She got the role offered. Oh. That's awesome.
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
You know who she kind of looks like right there? Who? She kind of looks like Einhorn as Finkel Finkel as Einhorn. Oh, yeah. She does. Who is that actress that played in Ace Ventura? Who played that? Sean Young. What was that?
Bad Friends
Stavros, the Off White & the Golden Lee
Because honestly, this was so ahead of its time. An androgynous. Well, she played a girl so well that could have been a guy that we didn't even question it when they said it was a guy.
Bad Friends
Ms Pickleson & The Hot Sub
Oh my God. It was sad to watch. There was a celebrity there and you mentioned his famous dad to me and he heard us from across the party. Exactly. That's the way to do it. He heard the movie you mentioned.
Bad Friends
Ms Pickleson & The Hot Sub
It sounds like little Zempikboy wanted to smoke cigarettes and no one invited me to the triangle. It could be a square.
Bad Friends
Ms Pickleson & The Hot Sub
Ja, aber er ist weiß und alt. Oh mein Gott, er war so alt. Er war kraftvoll, klug. Er ist Chemie-Professor.
Bad Friends
Ms Pickleson & The Hot Sub
Nein, sie mögen nicht ältere Leute. Und du magst ältere Leute? Ich mag ihn, weil er so klug war. Er war nur normal, aber seine Arme waren so... Wie alt denkst du, er ist?
Bad Friends
Ms Pickleson & The Hot Sub
No, but I never talked to anyone in school, but I made an attempt to say, bye, Professor, thank you.
Bad Friends
Ms Pickleson & The Hot Sub
Jacob Elordi. Jacob LaGuardia. Jacob LaGuardia. Jacob LaGuardia Airport.
Bad Friends
Ms Pickleson & The Hot Sub
You two are disgusting. You two are something. We're bad friends.
Bad Friends
Ms Pickleson & The Hot Sub
He's brown and his name is Professor... When you say brown, how brown? Like brown, brown.
Bad Friends
Ms Pickleson & The Hot Sub
Like poo? Yeah. Close to me. Okay. And he has like a long beard.
Bad Friends
Ms Pickleson & The Hot Sub
Really? Yeah, one time I was hanging out with my friends and he picked me up and then dropped me off with my friends and he just waited for me to be done.
Bad Friends
Ms Pickleson & The Hot Sub
Du hast das mit Atika Lai gemacht. Du fuhrst nach Long Beach.
Bad Friends
Ms Pickleson & The Hot Sub
I love that one. We have the merch competition from the fans. We got a million submissions. Yeah, we have 15 here.
Bad Friends
Ms Pickleson & The Hot Sub
Your assistant called me yesterday and she thought you were dead.
Bad Friends
Ms Pickleson & The Hot Sub
Ja, sie hat mich immer angerufen, aber ich war noch schlau. Also habe ich viele Missrufe bekommen.
Bad Friends
Ms Pickleson & The Hot Sub
That's why I take example today. I wanna lose some weight by tomorrow.
Bad Friends
In the Presence of a Movie Star
I'm in dreaming right now. I'm going to check for you in 15 minutes. I'm going to check for you?
Bad Friends
In the Presence of a Movie Star
It's an app. It's an app. Yeah, yeah. It's a free app, right?
Bad Friends
In the Presence of a Movie Star
You You don't have a fucking email. He's your email. You don't even. Why are you screaming at me?
Bad Friends
In the Presence of a Movie Star
Dude, the British are so funny. No, wait. Come to Lord Davenport's and fuck money blue. Give me Lord Davenport. I got to see this fucking guy. In LA, there's a guy named Lord Davenport? No, clearly this guy's in England.
Bad Friends
In the Presence of a Movie Star
What are you talking about? What are you doing right now? Tim Dillon. What are you doing right now?
Bad Friends
In the Presence of a Movie Star
No, I'm fucking, dude, I'm Norm. Yeah, thank you. No, I'm Norm. No, you're not, dude. I'm Norm. You're a pretentious artist.
Bad Friends
A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Please remember their names. Please remember.
Bad Friends
A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
They shot it in one week, meaning like the actors are very prepared.
Bad Friends
A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
We have allies. You know what? We have allies, my friend.
Bad Friends
A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Right now, without the lube. Without the lube.
Bad Friends
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There are so many things in life we just never get around to, folks. Taking up that hobby, cleaning out that garage, you know, little things that don't really make a huge difference in our lives. Yet there's one thing that most of us have probably been neglecting that can have a huge impact on our family's future. What is it, Bob?
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Yeah, yeah. We did that to the Pope. People think J.D. Vance killed him? No, we did.
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How do you feel about that?
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Yeah, David Mamet's coming. It's a little whack.
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he's a big he's a very he's a good man I've never seen anyone change that dramatically he used to be terrible he lives service now and his life reflects it he's the nicest most mindful open
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When you see that, you go, it works.
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May I read it for the room?
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Yes, Arkham Falcon is alive. He was born on November 5th, 1941.
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To tears. To tears. Am I lying?
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Yeah, yeah, tell me why. Because we were late.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
yeah you know i mean it's that you know i mean i've been in and out since i was 17 yeah i had 17 years one at one point like yeah i know you you were in the rooms when i first came in yeah at more park more i remember seeing you before radford yeah yeah so it's like um but at 17 what a gift as a kid yeah to get that you know i mean i wouldn't be here without it how did you how did you even get in like because your dad wasn't it wasn't family
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
No, my dad was a violent alcoholic. Sure. Among other things. Thanks for bringing that up. Well, you sure? Yeah, you're welcome. But he didn't bring you into rooms. No, I went to... I mean, when I was in high school, I went to a bunch of rehabs. Yeah. And then I think the third one, it clicked. Yeah. And I met this old Korean man by the name... You know Dan? Yeah, Dan. Yeah, yeah.
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And when I was a kid, and he had 17 years at that point, he was at this... long white hair, tattoos, full Korean. He was adopted long ago, and he was my sponsor. It was my junior year in high school when I met him, and I just gave him a 50, 60-year cake or whatever. He's still a part of my life. Without that, I'd be dead, I think.
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Yeah, well, give me a complex word.
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Give him a complex word.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Well, there was a, not dwarf, but he's a small man, Dean Del Rey. We know a small man who collects t-shirts, and I was over at his house, and he goes, do you want this for 50? And I go, yeah.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
You like the way they feel? Yeah. When David Mamet wears cans, we wear cans.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the movie called?
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Yeah. Can you give us a brief synopsis of what it's about? I mean, Dave would be better at it.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Or like, you know, sometimes, you know, the dog eating trade in China. I'll just give you an example of empathy. When I think the movie's about. Hold on. Wait, we're getting a dog eating now? No, no, no. Let me see you through.
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And it's like, I hate these people that, you know what I mean, do this to these kind animals. And then I go to China, right? And I'm like, oh, my God, look at this puppy. And the puppy goes, ah, right, and eats my face.
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How do you think about that? Am I right or no?
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
When does this shit happen? Do you get like a little fondled or what?
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. Do you say anything? Someone like me, right? I don't know my lines ever. You know what I mean? Say what? I never know my lines. Yeah. Yeah, but would you yell at me? No, I'd say learn your lines.
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Got to know your lines.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
You know what I mean? We memorize where we need to get to, right? Exactly. The words around it, as long as we can get to the joke, what actually makes it funny, that's fine. But you guys do line by line, like word by word, right?
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I knew when you were going to come on, you were going to do this.
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Yeah, I understand. I understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it hard to, I mean, I'm going to sound stupid. I just need to throw it out because I'm dumb. You know what I mean? Is it hard to write a movie?
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I'm not Hotoy Shonani or whatever his name is. Shohei Otani. Yeah, whatever his name is.
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I can't hit it every time.
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Hoche Anani. I can't hit it every time, dude. You know what I mean? I'm sorry, dude. I just throw it out there.
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These aren't earned. These aren't earned, and these are called golden goose, and they come distressed.
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So what does happen? What? What does happen? You know. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You climb inside the rhino and butthole.
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I'm wrong. Oh, no, that's not it? No, I was saying we climb inside the rhino and butthole.
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Well, I met your dad first.
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Also back in the day when I started making a little money, I did put some away. You did. Yeah. And that, it comforts me for the future. Yes. Because it stuff grows.
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Well, it's kind of like Glengarry, no?
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Is that the Star Trek guy? The other one.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Star Trek is based in Earth, on Earth, like the society that we live in. Yeah. But like hundreds of years from now.
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And then we have a... What's so funny? It's a crew. The Enterprise, it's a crew of explorers from Earth that explore... Is it William Shatner? Yes. It's William Shatner. It's Shatner, yeah. Okay, good. Did you like him? Well... Because I'm mad at him because he fucked me once. Not literally, but in a job. How? Oh, my God. It was the worst. I get a call from the Billboard Awards.
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Remember they used to have these stupid award shows, these annoying award shows? I don't remember that. Okay, we want you to do a sketch with William Shatner because they knew I was a Star Trek fan. And I go, yeah, I'll do it. So they fly me in. It's basically a scene with me and William Shatner at a poker table. Right. So I'm sitting there waiting for William Shatner. Right.
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And he comes in and there was another guy that they hired to from L.A. I forgot it was a black guy. I love black people. Anyway, Willie Shatner goes in and he goes, you're out, you're out. And then they dragged me out of the tent and he goes, he just rewrote it just now. So I got back on the plane and flew back to LA. Wow. Yeah.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now we know who he really is. No Aurora and no fucking- No, no, no, but wait a second.
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I'm sober, I'm a good guy.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
You don't have an Instagram?
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Yeah, he's waited too long. I can't do it anymore. Audition, audition. I'm done. I'm done. I think Rogan and Marc Maron also paved the way in terms of having this format be something that we can just be like, fuck Hollywood.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That was really nice for you to show up to that.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Yeah, yeah. We keep it rolling. This has been such a blessing, you know what I mean?
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Yeah, I'm not, Dad. Did you know Picasso?
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
That's what I'm saying. He could have known.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Wow. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
It is sport. It's sport. It is. Well, comics used to be like that, but then we realized because of the New York comedy scene that we banded together, you know what I mean? And we just live within our ecosystem and we help each other by doing each other's podcasts. They all grow. Yeah. I think 10 years ago it was dog eat dog.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
You didn't talk about her.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
How would I laugh so hard?
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
How did you give Al Pacino notes? Did you give him notes? I never give anybody notes.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Oh, my God. Even since I met you back in the day, you're a bright kid. Hey, thanks, folks. Yeah, yeah. He's a grown man. No, but he's brighter than us.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
David, have you ever been in a fist fight?
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
You want to take yours off now?
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Yeah. Did you know Kurosawa?
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
He had black feet, too. Something right happened where he was in the snow or something. No, frostbite. Frostbite. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's your favorite Kurosawa film? I'm a huge fan. I know I bring it up a lot. Go fuck yourselves, all right?
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Oh, right, right, right, right, right. You see High and Low? Sure.
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Hey, Andreas. Wow. Yes. Director. This is a director.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Andreas, behold your eyes, right? I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you bow to him on the way in? Yeah. You're fucking better. Whatever he wants, you do. Whatever he wants. Footstool. You're the footstool. Okay? He wants to spit in your mouth, he gets to spit in your mouth. He spit in your mouth, right? He did. Yeah. Okay. Wow, wow. So can I ask you something, Mr. Mamet?
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Do you enjoy yourself on this podcast?
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Sorry, Dave. That's my fault. I'm sorry, Dave. I brought it up.
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We all know. You know what I mean? I don't know, man.
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andreas no no no as well oh yeah i love you i love you and we'll do your zombie movie thank you oh he's got us a zombie movie he wants us to what do you think about zombie movies i love them yeah yeah train to busan you ever see that one which one train to busan no it's a korean one but i thought it was really interesting that we have all these things about zombies and vampires because it was a it was about a culture that was dying
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Is that true? I'm Korean, you fucking asshole. Really? Yeah, yeah. Oh, shit. David, you know a lot of Koreans or no?
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Before you guys go, look, this is a dream of mine. So we have a script for you to write.
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Can one of you guys look into that camera and go, thank you for being a bad friend? Yeah.
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You want to fucking die Well the other day I went on a date With five times this girl Remember the hot supermodel And the fifth time I went in to have a kiss And she turned her head shot Is this the girl that I met at the movie theater
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You're in a relationship. Yeah, yeah.
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wow wow different time yeah I'm afraid if I was in that time I'd still be like not doing well nothing would change yeah yeah yeah in fact you in the 60s it's probably harder to get laid oh that's probably yeah little Korean boy I'd be the first incel yeah yeah yeah and they'd go watch out for that guy talking shit on a new reddit yeah knock knock what are you talking about Yoko Ono was it come on there was a whole thing going on everybody was like I gotta get me one of those Asian women were fetishized back then for sure but not Asian men not Asian men we were fucked this is a new maybe you're right yeah yeah
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We were like, oh, yes, all right. You're right.
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Let me think about that. He loves corned beef sandwiches.
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I don't know how you got that, but yeah, it's just like that. Got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I want to say something because you guys have interrupted me before, but if I may get this information.
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If I may. Shia, let me ask you something real fast. What's that? Go ahead.
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You're really going to make me mad today. I'm stuttering.
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I got some muscles now, dude.
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Talk about your brother. No, but my brother and I, it's a favorite movie. I'm Glenn, Larry, Glenn Ross.
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It's our favorite movie.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
In fact, there's an Asian lady that's at the coat. I worked with her before.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Yeah, in the movie, there's an Asian lady that gives people, like I think Pacino, a coat or something.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I worked with her once and I kept bombarding her with like, what was it like, this and that, you know what I mean?
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Well, we adopted, David. Yeah. We have one dwarf. One little tiny dwarf. You got to have one dwarf. Little black dwarf kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we got lucky. That's winning the lottery. Right, it really was.
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And he's hard to see. He's so small.
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What about focus groups? That's why they're there, right? Yeah, but it's so weird.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
That's for marketing departments. Oh, I see. I see. Okay.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
Oh. Brilliant. Wow, wow, wow. Brilliant.
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A Penguin, A Nun, and an Ostrich w/ Shia Labeouf and David Mamet
effective. Let's talk about it.
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David, did you see Snow White? I didn't see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He doesn't watch movies. Oh, he doesn't? Oh, you don't watch at all?
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Er ist so klein. Wer redest du über? Unser adoptiertes Kind. Meine Damen und Herren, liebe Fans von Bad Friends, es ist eine Ehre, ein Privileg, ein unglaublicher Moment in unserer Zeit mit diesem Show. Wir haben zwei unglaublich gut respektierte, erzielt, erstaunliche Leute.
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Bitte erinnern Sie sich an ihre Namen. Bitte erinnern Sie sich an ihre Namen.
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Erlebe die neue Crime-Serie Mobland mit Tom Hardy, Pierce Brosnan und Helen Mirren. Jetzt nur auf Paramount+.
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Was für ein Duo. Was für ein Duo. Abbott und Costello würden wir lieber nicht haben.
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Das ist nichts wie das. So not close. He does this a lot. What happened to Garfunkel? Nobody gives a shit. Is he alive? He's alive, Dave. I don't know. Is he really alive? Is Garfunkel still alive? And that's how dark and mean this is. And you know what happens on this show? We shouldn't say anybody's name. We talk about people on this show and within how long? Six months? They die.
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Yeah, yeah. We did that to the Pope. People think J.D. Vance killed him? No, we did.
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No, but I'm not kidding. We literally just talked about the Pope. We were just talking about him. Nothing negative. And then, boom, he dies. So all of our fans are like, please don't talk about people anymore on the show.
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Yes, Arkon Falco is alive. He was born on November 5th, 1941.
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Isn't it incredible that you're David Mamet, such an incredible writer? A Pulitzer Prize winner. You can't even read four words without anything complex inside of it.
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I'm a genius, right? I know you. I've given you so many compliments. If I give you another one today, it'd be uncomfortable.
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Egal, worauf du stehst, das alles gibt's hier. Prime Video. Klicke oder tippe auf das Banner, um mehr zu erfahren.
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Es war ein, nicht ein Dwarf, aber er ist ein kleiner Mann, Dean Del Rey. Wir kennen einen kleinen Mann, der T-Shirts sammelt. Und ich war in einem Haus und er sagt, willst du das für 50? Und ich sage, ja.
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2700 Dollar. Ja, aber das ist ein Remake, David. Das ist ein Original. Das ist wie ein Print. Das ist ein Lithograph.
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Ich liebe Exile Main Street. Ich liebe Let It Bleed. Ich mag die Band. Ja, ja, ja. Es heißt Made Worn, Leute.
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Ja, er geht zu diesen... Es gibt eine Firma, die Made Worn nennt. Sie machen das. Es ist wie ein Fake-Retro-Shirt.
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Oh, das ist großartig. Weißt du was? Ich wusste, dass du das tun wirst. Siehst du diese Schuhe, Bobby?
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Das sind eigentlich gewonnen. Das sind gewonnen. Das ist gewonnen gewonnen.
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Diese sind nicht gewonnen. Diese sind nicht gewonnen. Und diese sind genannt Golden Goose. Und sie kommen... Nein, Bobby.
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Weißt du, was wirklich nicht gut ist? Die Leute, die auf diese Sachen kommen und die Kans nicht tragen, weil... um irgendeinen Grund. Ja, manche Leute mögen sie nicht. Ja, aber David Mamet trägt Kans.
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Du magst die Art, wie sie sich fühlen? Ja. Wenn David Mamet Kans trägt, tragen wir Kans. Und jeder muss Kans tragen. Jeder trägt Kans.
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None of us are gonna wear cans. This show's gonna be crazy. If anybody cannot wear cans, it's him. It's Dave Mamet.
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No, I'm just a regular guy. He's a normal guy like us. Just a regular guy. No, it's Dave Mamet.
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You never call, you never... Because I don't want to mess it up. We got a good thing going. You know when you got a good relationship with somebody who you really respect and then you never want to talk to them?
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Oh, yes, except for the respect part. A good relationship I never want to fucking talk to. We talk only when we need to talk. We're like a really smooth married couple.
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Er ist nie da. Wir haben ihn adoptiert, David. Wir haben einen Dwarfen. Einen kleinen Dwarfen. Einen kleinen schwarzen Dwarfen. Ja, wir haben Glück gehabt. Das hat die Lotterie gewonnen. Und er ist so klein.
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A white dude and an Asian dude. You two are disgusting. Oh, you two are something. We're bad friends. Ho hum, down in the bayou, we got legs that are tired, lights that flicker in the night.
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Daylight savings can hit you right in the face. Comes out of nowhere. How do you regain that energy that you lost from the time change, huh? That's where five-hour energy comes in. They have made the one-hour energy. A tiny little pick-me-up for getting through the day or days ahead. A tiny little bottle and very big energy.
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They can live through anything. They lived through the Holocaust. Yeah.
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Fancy's like, we're cutting all this. Are we? Some of it. The black guy thing, that's tough. Whoa, look at that. Look at that. And I love it when they defend themselves. That's how they got so strong, swinging axes at dogs. Look how buff that guy is. This is nuts. It's not nuts. Honestly, though? Yeah, yeah. The other one that was bad was Michelle Trachtenberg died the same day, right?
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In New York. Oh, that's not here? Yeah, it was in New York.
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They found him a day later? Oh, yeah. It's a Hollywood tribal.
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Okay, we've talked about it on this show. People die in threes. Who's next? Who's the third? Let's guess.
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Hold on. Let me think of the name. Hold on. Okay, I was going to say, on the count of three, we have to think of a name together. Okay.
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And snap, snap, snap. What are you looking at? Come on over here.
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And one dog. Yeah, let me say something. The dog was in the kennel, which I think is a little strange. Don't you let your dogs free roam? I free roam my dog. I free roam, dog.
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Why do you keep going like this with your hair? Because I'm emo, dude.
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No, they're... I was shopping with my fiance at... Ooh! Now he's changing again. Ooh! It's continuity. No, we were just saying. Why does everyone have to use these mics? Why can't they find a better system? This is one of the best mics in the game. You've been complaining since you've been here, Benny. Yeah. What are you complaining?
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I wanted you to put on your shirt, and I thought you looked beautiful. Thank you so much.
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You don't like these mics? As someone who is a professional. No, I do like these mics, but I don't understand why there's not a version at this point where it's like we're like, hands-free, well, we already are hands-free, but we're like, there's nothing in our face, we're not wearing a headphone, we're just talking in a room.
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I know, I know. Well, okay, okay. Here's what it is. She's like a homebody, like her favorite thing to do. Let's not talk about a woman's body on the show. That's so diminutive. Your wife's body is insane, man. I know, I'm shaming. Yeah. Her body's like a house. It's a big, burly house. No, she just likes to chill at home. So do you, though. Yeah, yeah, I'm like a big chill.
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Like, I don't want to go to, like, we're not going to... Like, we want to, like, chill at... That's us every night. Every night I go there.
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Wait, are any of you guys sober? No, you're not. I'm in the program. Okay, okay, okay. Are you in the program? I'm not, I'm not.
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Why can't he fit in it? He's saying that I'm fat. I think you fit in that easily. Thank you, Benny. Do you actually think he can't fit in it?
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Are you on Ozempic? He is. Actually? Yeah. Why are you on Ozempic?
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Okay, let's see. It fits. It fits perfectly. It fits good. It's perfect.
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Wait, are you actually on Ozempic? Yeah, I am. Really? Not Ozempic. He's on the other one. Manjaro.
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No, there is no Wugovic. You just made up Wugovic. No, Wugovic. Hey, dude, we're not as successful as you. We can't afford premium brand. What are you talking about? That shirt was $9,000. I know.
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Congratulations, brother. That's a move. I like when you hear sober stories about that.
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What were you like drunk?
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So we're clear. That means you have a problem With like 500 bucks I go razzle-dazzle baby buy everyone food and I just go, hey, I want 200 bucks of food. And he goes, what do you want? And I go, you tell me. I love that energy. I love that energy.
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All I do is win, win, win, no matter what.
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I'm joking. I'm joking. She's not here.
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Anyway, I don't want to look at a woman like a flashlight I want to look at her like a human with a soul and then you know after after getting to know a human You decide if you want to do those things I think the problem productive when you get when you have kids and you get have girls and you get older It's a lot easier to get rid of your life, you know, that's fair because then you start going like shit like I remember the first time I got on porn and I was like
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Like, you know, I mean, you know, I don't know. Show us.
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All the women in there are not going to get this, but they're like college teen. And you're like, you know, when you're young, you look at it because you're like 22. At 52, you're like, ugh, I got one of those in my house. The fuck am I watching?
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Yeah, yeah. Well, hang on. Let me start. Let me start. There's two things I get off my chest, okay? I'm going to start with you, and I'm going to obsess about this. I'm going to obsess about this. Day one, I was a ride or die for Richard Jewell.
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I'm just talking to white guys right here.
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When you have a black dad, do you talk to, do you have the birds and the bees? Do you have, do you talk, do you ever talk to your dad about jerking off or anything like that? Never in my life.
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Day one, day one, I was in Atlanta right before the bombing happened. When you did it, you did such an amazing fucking job in that goddamn movie. Listen, you've had a great body of work. Everything you do is amazing. But that one movie, man, that guy got railroaded. He got fucked. It's a tearjerker. Oh, it really is. It really is.
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No, I remember my first grandparent that died, and then they were like, my cousin, we're at the funeral, and he's like, you know, if you touch yourself, she can see. And I was like, oh, fuck. I went into the bathroom. I must have been like fucking 12. And I was like... Hey, listen, here's the deal. I do this.
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You're fucking crazy. I was like, I'm not going to stop. I can't stop.
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I had this conversation with a fucking apparition, and I was like, so I don't know what to tell you, but maybe you look away or whatever, but I'm going to keep doing this. I can't stop. I thought it meant you were gay if you jerked off.
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I'm gay. I'm cool. I'm being gay. What's the connection? Because you're touching a dick.
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What are you talking about? Yeah, it's like that scene from fucking Straight Outta Compton. You get arrested in a bathroom? No, I just thought, I didn't know jerking off was a thing people did. No one talked about it, no one brought it up to me. In high school, and they would make fun of you if you jerked off. They'd be like, it means you're gay. And I was like, well, I guess I'm gay.
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I guess I'm gay, but I'm a weird gay that only likes women, but likes myself. So I'm into my own dick pretty heavily. I wish I didn't fucking have these thoughts. I wish I was like, I'm like the whitest dude alive.
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I think we're tied. Oh my gosh. I haven't even told you what I'm making yet.
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So I have made a, kind of like a spaghetti bolognese, but I'm doing it with triangle pasta, and what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna fry them. So I'm gonna cook them, then I'm gonna fry them so they'll be a little crispy. And this is the tour de France, no? Piece de... Tour de France. Yeah, the bite, you know. Piece de resistance.
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Yeah, Tour de Forest, yeah. This is what I've been cooking all day for you guys. And I think you're gonna be really excited.
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So I put short ribs... in a pot this morning at 10 in the morning, and I've been cooking them in a stock, and I just wanna show you one to see what we got. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna pull apart, I'm gonna make a sauce out of this reserve.
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I'm then gonna pull apart some so it's inside there, but then I'm gonna give us each one of the most beautiful short ribs you've ever seen on top of that with a little creme fraiche.
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Bro, you got some layers to you, dude. This is like some amazing description. That is like, look at it jiggle. Look at the jiggle. This is, I'm talking, I mean, I'm being serious.
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That's a great transition to wrestling. Let's talk wrestling. Fantastic. So, first and foremost, you're doing your first, not your first, I've seen that you've been doing a bunch of shit online, but you're doing something Saturday night, right?
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I'm cutting in front of you. I'm so sorry. Go ahead.
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It was as fun as anything. Hang on, so let's talk generation of wrestling. When did you guys, who were you watching?
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And I worked on a TV show with Cody Rhodes, and I said to Cody, first night we were having a glass of whiskey, and I said, I'm gonna give you a heads up, I don't know anything about wrestling, so like, I'm gonna just let you know.
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Yeah, and I was like, but I just didn't want to go, I know who your dad is, obviously. And then I started going through the list, I know who the Von Erics are, I know this, that, and that, and I started going through the list, and he was like, by the end of the night, I was talking about Ric Flair versus Kerry Von Erick in Houston, I think it was. Ooh. He was like, I'm going to stop you.
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You're like a wrestling fan. I went, no, I'm not. And he goes, no, you are. You just think you're not. He goes, you watched all the OGs. Like, I could do his dad's promo reads verbatim. I mean, his dad's a legend to me. I would argue I've modeled my career after his dad.
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So at the end I went, oh, shit, I'm like a legit wrestling fan. And then I was like, oh, yeah, I've watched it my whole life. I'm obsessed with it. It takes you away from wherever you are. I would argue it's an emotional roller coaster in the sense that you forget about your life. You're involved in the thing just like a great movie. And I love wrestling. I love wrestling.
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And I think it's the coolest shit out there.
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I love that statement because that's the statement. When you're not into wrestling, you don't get it. and you mock it. And it's easy to mock. But when you get it, you're like, hey man, it's kind of my thing. And why shit on someone's thing? Why not just let them have their thing?
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We're talking wrestling. Don't think we're not going to FaceTime.
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Okay, let's talk straight wrestling then, okay? Favorite wrestler.
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So wait. Let's give Hulk his props.
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No, we're rolling. Oh, we are? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Anybody will tell you that. That's not what I heard. Right now, the roster's skinny and acrobatic. No, no, no, no, no.
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He talks about his steroid use a lot.
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All right, all right.
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No. My guy is always Kerry Von Erich. Dusty Rhodes, Kerry Von Erich. I'm old school. I love The Rock. I love The Rock and what he's done. I love watching everything about him. I think he is inspirational. I think he's awesome. Rick Rude was like... I got to party with Ric Flair, and that was cool.
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They should never talk.
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Well, we're going to drink it on air. It's Thursday. I'm done. And by the way, Light Strength Refreshers is unlike anything the alcohol industry has ever seen. It isn't just a drink. It's a goddamn survival tool. It's the perfect party pacer. Why choose between fun and function? This hydration drink inspired cocktail low-key brings its own self-care to the party with a crushable,
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Spike Lee and Clint Eastwood have a thing?
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I think I'm going to have it all right now. No problem. Want a little more alcohol? Oh, maybe try it with a splash of Poroso's or mix it with your favorite tropical cocktail. Light Strike Hard Refresher is launching nationally this month with two flavors, Lemon Lime, which I have right here, and Orange Mango. Drink them cold or you can pour them over ice like I did.
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And watch how fast it disappears. That is damn good. That is damn good. You know what it tastes like? The rest of the bottle. That is damn good. That is really good. You know what it tastes like? It tastes like the kind of sports drink you drink as a kid when your mom would pick you up and go run into the store and you can get one drink and you grab a big bottle of that stuff.
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I'm going to make some kale for us just so that we're healthy. That's hot. Yay. I'm going to put butter in it because I want it to taste good.
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So do you cook for yourself?
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I'm going to taste our sauce. I think I might need some spices.
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Hold on, hold on. Hang on, not to interrupt. Foreign language could... It's all right, bro.
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Jesus Christ. It's not a lie. This is Lunell's fault. Foreign language cooking shows on Netflix are the best products you will ever find. Okay. No English. No English. Just food. No English. Just food. Shut the fuck up. Deal. I mean, fucking amazing.
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By the way, I want you to see every white face in that room that just went, hmm.
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You're gonna love this salad. So I am just doing a burrata with olive oil and garlic over it. Oh, gangster. With... I did this before and it turned out so good, but the garlic on the burrata is so nice. And then the heirloom tomatoes with a little touch of salt.
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And some basil is so fricking good. You hit it with some salt. Man, I can't believe I got to burrata so late in life.
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And then, okay, secondly, your dad's a fucking legend. Yeah, he's pretty tough. I mean, like, you have created an amazing career for yourself. But, man, I can't imagine what it's like. I'm dying to know your auntie and uncle list. Like, the people you call auntie and uncle have got to be insane.
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My wife's family?
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That's too funny to not explore that bit. So start me with the first generation of Jackson's.
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All chefs take offense when you get it well done.
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But never had it growing up. So wait, can I tell you a good Indian food story? Please. Tell us whatever you want, bro. We're here.
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I'd never had Indian food in my entire life, right? And so I go to... I'm in a strip club in Russia. That's crazy.
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Holy shit. And I never had Indian food, right? And so I was like... And so the strippers... So they're postmates. I get a lap dance and... The strippers clearly had Indian food, and I had never smelt it before. So if you smell it for the first time, it's pretty aggressive, right? So I'm like, ugh, I'm getting the fuck out of here. This smells horrific.
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First date with my wife, she takes me to an Indian restaurant. I'd never had Indian food. And I walked in, and I go, oh, it smells like a Russian whorehouse. And then I had Indian food, and at the meal, I went, they had Indian food. What?
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By the way, I'm saucing this the fuck up.
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I want to hear that story. He took you to Lane Bryant.
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I'm going to push one out of the White House.
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Yeah. Hey, no lie. How many times did I sit on that flight from Stockholm to Holland?
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Are you kidding me?
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I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna give you a hack right now.
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You ready? All right. If you have to fart on a plane, usually if you fart, you have to fart a couple times. Go to the flight attendant, you ask for a little coffee pod, those little prepackaged coffee pods. This is crazy. Put it under your asshole and you fart into that. No one smells it. Is that a mic drop? I don't know how to feel.
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All right, this is burrata roasted garlic with olive oil and heirloom tomatoes. I need to put a little salt on this. And then these are short ribs. Guys, when I say I thought about this meal more than anything, I bought these Sunday with Leanne, grocery shopping, and I got the perfect cuts for you guys. Because I know how we like food, right? We do. And this short rib should fall apart.
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By the way, if you don't even get to the pasta, I'm cool with it.
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Will I get to the pasta? I've toasted this pasta so that it's cooked, but it's a little crunchy and butter. It should be amazing. Gentlemen, enjoy, please. Oh, you need forks in that? Oh, I got one.
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I love... It'll make it taste better. There's one thing I love. It's a show of religion. I love that shit.
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So just try this. Just all I want you to do. All right.
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See if your fork goes through that first piece. Wow.
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It does. It's really great. When you cook all day, you're thinking about someone. Fuck. Leanne Chrysler, get in here. Leanne Chrysler, get in here.
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Baby, I just want you to try.
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You too, how are you?
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Oh God, it's hot. Hold on. Looks good. Is it good?
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Wow. Just put the whole thing in your mouth.
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Oh, that's really good.
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I know, that's what all of us were like, kale in the middle? And I think what it does is it holds on to the sauce.
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You guys are so funny. I'm enjoying your chat.
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When you think of, like, when you think, I mean, female hip-hop, you had Yo-Yo, who was, like, early, right? Well, first of all, you had Roxanne Chanté. Roxanne Chanté was, like, First generation? Bro, she had that beef with UTFO. UTFO. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was nice. I make you feel hotter than it is. R-O-X-A-N-N-E.
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This turned out really well.
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Hey, do we need another drink maybe? Can we get another round of drinks? You cook these perfectly, bro. You know, Martim said that the best way to do them is to cook them and then fry them. Perfect. So they're a little crispy. So it's not al dente. They're cooked. But they got a little bit of fry to them. I think it's a sexy way to do pasta. Keep going.
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Oh, that was my rule. That was my rule. Keep going. I'm sorry. I'm not here sharing rules.
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I love this. You are a brother to me. Keep going.
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Rookie move. Who are you telling? Back in the day, OGs, Olympic Gardens was the shit. The shit. Boy, one time, an old man one time, I watched a guy walk past an old man. And I just heard an old man go, boy, don't suck on her titties. She lets everyone suck on her titties. You're going to get sick. Wow. It's actually sound advice. It's really sound advice. By the way, it's really sound advice.
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Make that our clip for this episode.
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That was crazy. But, like, then you think of, like, where female hip-hop is today with Cardi B and Doji. Oh, my God.
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Bro. There's a line from one of my favorite movies. One of my favorite movies. I watched Den of Thieves on the flight from New York. Dude, congrats on that, man. Den of Thieves 2. Den of Thieves 2, congrats. And congrats on Den of Thieves 3.
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Dude. Yep. The best part is I kind of respect Bob. Like, I respect the fucking fire inside him to start a fire. Starting a fire in a building. You guys are younger than me. You don't remember. Starting a fire was a big deal when we were kids.
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We didn't have cell phones. We started fires all the time.
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How many fires did you start as a kid? A million. Yeah. You guys had cell phones. What the fuck? Dude, starting a fire...
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Do you ever play with matches?
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Wait, where did you guys come up with the name?
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I don't think I know your full story. Yeah. Like, where did you grow up?
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Oh, that's right. I already knew that. Did you not watch The Crow? I'm a great listener. So wait, did you move out here to get into stand-up?
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Like, I wanted to be one of those guys. Fucking Phil Seymour Hoffman. Amazing. Fucking legend.
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How many people told you, because when you go to acting class, it's all beautiful people, and they're the ones that everyone surrounds. And then regular people like me and you, they go like, yeah, it's going to be a journey for you.
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Can you tell me for a little bit about the new movie you have coming out? I just saw the trailer the other day. It's The Luckiest Man in the World, Luckiest Man on Earth.
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Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, ATL, dude. One of my favorite lines in that movie. I don't know if you heard, light-skinned dudes ain't in style no more.
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It looks so good.
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The guy with the, I don't know how to say his name right.
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Yeah, he's doing great.
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I think that's so cool that people smoke cigarettes still.
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I don't smoke at all. You and nicotine at all?
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So I need something to do. There's a number of reasons I don't do a ton of movies. But I've turned down a lot of projects because I just don't want to sit. I feel like I'm wasting my life on someone's set. It's crazy.
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He crushed it. Dude, he's... I mean, I don't know, man. Like, okay.
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What's your favorite song you guys has? That's where boring kills us. Hold on. Let me tell you what your dad's best song is.
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Who's number one?
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Let's see this. Do you call him cube or dad? Definitely don't call him cube. Call him dad.
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I mean, I can tell you where I was when I heard that.
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No, my dad was a lawyer. The, uh, what? Sorry. My digestive closings. Keep going. I was outside my house on a mid circle and I came out and I put it in and I listened to it and I went, oh, this shit's fucking hot, like crazy. I remember all the shit top to bottom that your dad's done. And it was like, it's bizarre to me.
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Like, only other person I've, if I ever met your dad, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd never meet him. So I did, I did it with Big Boy. I'm a big, big, I'm a, because of the South. Big Boy. I ran into him at a concert. Oh, okay. I was a big boy. Yeah, we did a, I met him too. I geeked out on him at fucking, at Ram Stadium. I lost my shit on him. Yeah. But I'm a hip-hop fan. And I know it's 52.
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It's not cool to be fucking, it's like you seem like an old man. Hip-hop is hip-hop, dude. Man, I would dress as Tupac. When fucking All Eyes on Me came out, I dressed as Tupac. I put on khakis and I fucking... Where is that photo?
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Buddy, buddy, buddy. Lock that shit in, bro. Okay, I need you, bro.
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She fucking, she's been training for this therapy with her therapist.
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She scheduled a doubleheader so that she can fucking, if she doesn't win the first one, she'll come in and win the second one.
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And then whoever wins the last one's the winner. And I know. Lock in, bro. Lock that shit in, bro. What's the song I'm listening to?
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How many times do you think in therapy I'm going to go, book, book. I'm winning this therapy tomorrow. There's no fucking way. That bag sucks, and I'm bringing that bag to therapy. I'm bringing that bag to therapy.
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Best of luck. Good luck.
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I've smoked her so many times. I know, man. And right now what she did, she's got so many L's under her belt, she's trying to get her head above water, right? She's the Clippers, I'm the Lakers. But we play in the same stadium. And right now, she has cheated in therapy. And she has talked about what she's going to talk about in couples therapy with her therapy.
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I haven't been training for this therapy. Yeah, that was crazy. There's no training.
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Yeah. You know, I'm like Jordan. I roll in four beers deep after 18 holes of golf, and I still dunk on you. And just call it the flu game.
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What's up, Stacey? Sit down. What should I wear? Should I dress up a little bit?
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I can't wait for therapy to buy a double header. I'm bringing cocktails. I'm going to make cocktails. I'm going to get her drunk.
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I told her, the first therapy I went into, I said, yo, if I show up drunk, is that going to be a problem? She went, nope. I went, cool. Nice. Hey, that's a good start. She was like, do you drink a lot? I said, no, sometimes if I'm working, I may have to drink. And then if I come here in the middle of work, I don't want it to be an issue. And she went, no, I don't give a shit. I was like, done.
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Sometimes I get shit done.
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Are you nervous about doing the Chris Farley thing?
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All right, so that will be our Amistad, right? Okay. Like when you play Chris Farley, that'll be like for white dudes, he's our guy. He's our Martin Luther King.
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Robin Harris is the motherfucker.
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Amistad threw me off. It was a bad analogy. I was thinking of fucking Harriet Tubman. I didn't say that.
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Buddy, I'm expecting an invite to the premiere. I am not a big fan of Farways. And now, where are you at? Because part of me feels like me and you are brothers in the sense that work is work and it's fun. And you're getting offered all these things that are kind of like... I think when you started there, I mean, when you started, you did Richard Jewell. That's so fucking difficult.
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But what's your... Do you have a project in mind that you go... Man, my thing is I want to play dot, dot, dot. I want to, like, you have, like, a project where you have your head where you go, man, the coolest thing I could do would be to play... I don't fucking even think of, like, who...
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It's nothing but the name, dude.
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Same shirt. It says Al Chrysler. It said Ice Cube. And it's got my dad just going, I don't know. And Shaq next to him.
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By the way, T.J. Jefferson is fucking amazing. What a guy. What a fucking guy. And the best clip on the internet, if you want to find it, is when you found out that what's-his-name got traded. Luka Doncic, bro. It is one of the most... Oh, I haven't seen this. Can I tell you, if it didn't have the title on there of what it was, I would think someone in your family died.
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Yeah, exactly.
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15-year-old self is the shit. It is the shit. When you get into, like, just being... The guy's so grateful for the shit happening. Yeah. Guys, this was an amazing fucking episode. I have to tell you, I can't tell you thank you enough. I will simply say that the two men you are are perfect. They'll ever change. They'll ever be anything else. God damn it, I fucking love you guys. This was awesome.
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What's going on? I have a tattoo gun.
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God dang. All right, and we have food for the crew right here. Thank you. Great episode. Great episode. This episode was brought to you by The Machine.
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is what they call a prodigy guitar. He is amazing. He is brilliant. And by the way, they're bringing Bush with you. Are you kidding me? Morgan Wade? This is a night you're not going to want to miss. For a full list of dates and to secure your tickets right now, visit shinedown.com. My new special, Lucky, is streaming right now on Netflix. Check it out. I wish I didn't fucking have these thoughts.
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and everyone's got their own story, and if you don't represent the story the way I want to hear it told, then I'm out. And it's crazy. It changed hip-hop. It changed hip-hop forever. Keep going.
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I mean, what kind of weight on, it's a weird question for a dad to ask a son.
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When you think about it, because you're like, yo, listen, just giving you a heads up. So like, America loves me. I changed culture in our country. In the world, I changed culture. Would you show them how I did it?
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Absolutely, bro. Studied my role for over 20 years. I would have gone in, because if I do an impression of my dad, my dad doesn't find it kind. I'm like, huh? What did he say?
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But like, I know I'm Ice Cube.
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Surprisingly. You'd think with diversity they'd have one white guy audition for Twin Powell came this close. Jason Williams auditioning for Snoop Dogg.
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I wish I was like, I'm like the whitest dude alive.
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Not to tell you about your dad, but you're in character. Yeah. It's creepy to look at your eyes right now. That looks like the fucking natural born kid.
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Fuck yeah. You're like the Dirk Diggler of acting. You're like the Dirk Diggler of white guys. You're like, wow, that's it. That's the shit.
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Hey, I'm going to drink. I don't think these guys drink, but I'm drinking. Oh, I drink. What do you want?
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You hear I don't get offered 100 Santa Claus rolls?
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You should do a biopic of one of your dad's movies. You got this basketball league, right? I'm so down. I'm so down. What were you going to say? I cut you off. I'm sorry.
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Tequila? Tequila? You sure you don't want vodka? Because I know a guy that owns a great vodka brand that is so good.
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Yeah, this business is crazy because you do something and you do it well, and then people see you as that, so you do it more, and then they're like, well, that's all you can do. And you're like, no, but that was the thing you liked. It's like my wife's great at blowjobs. Is she here? My wife's amazing at blowjobs.
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I mean, it's like wild. Like when you meet her, you look at her, you're like, no way. I'll bring her in. I'll bring her in. And you look at her and you wouldn't be like, that's not a throat. I don't know how to feel.
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She's got great boobs.
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Wait, are you married?
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I'll take that. Let's do two double osos of soda. And then you're sober, right?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
No. I dislike... Like crippling addiction. I dislike losing a lot more than I enjoy winning, so gambling seems like a bad thing for me to do.
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I mean, it matters a lot. I care about it.
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Well, in this case, it's going into a thing, so you want it to incorporate with the broccoli well, so you want to not get any giant chunks and giant bites of stuff.
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I just had the best carne asada tacos in the world not that long ago.
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No.
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Invented carne asada?
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No, no, no. That's not. I would love to meet that guy.
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210 years old? He's so old. Just the first guy to grill steak.
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No, but it was a deeply educational thing. We shot some stuff for it. I got to do research for a new book I'm working on. And yeah, it's like ground zero for the best carne asada in the world is in Hermosillo, which is the capital of Sonora. And it's just an amazing thing. It's like a lifestyle down there. Carne asada is like...
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deeply important and everything from street tacos to high-end taquerias to sit-down taquerias with full table service and a wine cellar and just incredible, incredible stuff.
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That's raw.
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Yeah, basically we're, you want this to taste good by itself. So you're cooking down, essentially, like broccoli and sausage is one of the great combinations in the world. And when you cook it all done together, it gets soft, then you roll it into pizza dough and then bake it and slice it and eat it. And it's a great thing.
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You know what's a new one for you that's become a comfort food for you is soborodon, the Japanese ground chicken rice bowls.
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It's like a super easy, quick, simple at-home dinner that's very popular in a lot of home cooking in Japan. It's basically ground chicken cooked with, like, Sake, soy, and mirin. But here's the thing. And then you just have it over, like, steamed rice. I can't give that answer because it's so annoying.
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If you say ground chicken rice bowl, it sounds like you grew up in Texas.
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Very good. There you go. That's good work you got going on there.
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He'll be awful if he said it himself.
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I mean, I guess celebrity is a weird word. I don't even know who counts as a celebrity.
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No.
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Yeah, I mean, to me, like, celebrity chefs were the ones I grew up watching on TV. So Ming, Bobby Lee.
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I was like, how old is he? Bobby Flay. Lydia Bastianich was, like, one of my, like, old school PBS Italian food loves. Oh, wow. You know, Mario was a big deal. Mario.
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Oh, the funniest thing, I mean, it's awful, but the funniest thing in the world is, do you remember his Me Too apology?
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No, it was, it was, I don't remember doing that, but it sounds like me. Here's a recipe for cinnamon rolls.
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Literally a recipe for cinnamon rolls at the end of his apology.
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No, let it cook. And then kind of, once you blend it, it spatters like crazy. So I kind of let it cook all together for a little bit. And then, yeah, well, blended sauces, they just, they explode across the counter more.
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By the way, my answer was not Mario Batali to your question. Okay.
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I've gotten to become friends with, but like, yeah, it's, but when I think of celebrity, I think of like TV chefs. You think of me, you think of Bert.
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Yes. Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. Bourdain. But speaking of my wife knowing about... I mean, he's... But he wasn't really a celebrity chef.
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He was a chef, but it wasn't what he was famous for.
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No, he was like, here's my recipe for chicken poppers. I mean, like the two guys who like informed the way I thought about food the most were probably him and Jonathan Gold. Who's Jonathan Gold? Jonathan Gold was the Pulitzer Prize winning restaurant critic in L.A. for Village Voice, or for, not Village Voice, L.A. Weekly and the L.A. Times eventually.
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And he was the first guy in, like, really in the country, but in L.A. in particular, who talked about, like, getting to know your neighbors, venturing out to Koreatown, to San Gabriel Valley, to, you know, Boyle Heights to have real Mexican food, to, like, make you realize that, and I grew up in Santa Monica in this, like,
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kind of West Coast bubble where your parents move there because they believe they found the end of the rainbow and nothing good exists east of the 405. And then you're in high school and you discover Koreatown and late night drinking and panchan and all this amazing stuff.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
And so he was the guy who, like, you'd read his new review and discover that there's Indian food in Artesia and all this kind of stuff.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
If you say, what do you want for dinner? He says, not Indian food.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Burt, how did you and Liam meet?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I mean, I'd rather not get sick, but I'm not here to judge whether you're wiping the table off after you.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I mean, that looks like plastic on the cutting board.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
We're not talking about that. Oh, okay. And the show's over. Okay. Okay.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I think it's the edge of the wrapper for the can of tomatoes.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I think so. Oh, you think you might have grated a fruit sticker?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Can I tell you for a second how much I hate fruit stickers? Yeah, why do they put them on?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I get why they exist. It's so that they can, A, you can brand your fruit, because everyone thinks about who made their orange. But also so that, like, they can scan them, they can track them. It's like that whole thing. Everyone thinks about who made their orange.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Wait, can we talk about the COVID birthday party?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
And they're saying they cut like half an hour out of it also. There's like more that like, yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
It's a devil-raised game.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Cheese on the bread, and then lay this on top, and then roll the whole thing.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
We're not going to run out of cheese.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah. Look, it's Parmesan. But yeah, Guy Fieri.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I'll tell you this. I'm Fieri. Well, it's like technically it should be Chef Boyardee. You ever heard that one?
Bertcast
Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Taste it for salt and stuff. Make sure it tastes good. I mispronounced the first part. It should taste good at every level, you know?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
You know, salt, et cetera.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Nothing has driven more business to a restaurant than being on Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives. Without a doubt. Not even close. Like, you have to schedule alerts for reruns because you're going to get hit.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
They rerun the show.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I think it's going to all work out.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Oh, yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Oh, cool.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Well, I think about this a lot too. I always say that... I always say. I sometimes say that you'd think by now we'd have enough cookbooks and pornography. He says this during sex. Why are you talking about cookbooks again? But we keep making more of both of them. And I think the reason is that like... People still want to fall in love. They want a connection.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
They want to find their person that they trust and they want to follow. And when you find a person whose taste you like or whose videos, pornography you like.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Sure. And then feel free if you want to sprinkle any stuff on top. Like what?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Parmesan?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
A little salt? Salt. Everything, bagel seasoning, whatever you want. No, that'd be weird on us.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
It's Jewish seasoning salt.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Well, that's happening now.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I mean, I'm always... Excited when I discover any kind of a technique in cooking that multiple great cultures came upon on their own.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
If the Chinese and the French both figured out the same idea, you know it's good.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Everybody's got their preferred... Most of the great food in the world came about because of horrible things happening to people. True. Really? Walk me through this.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I mean, banh mi is a French baguette with Vietnamese ingredients in it because of French imperialism.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Well, yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah. But like, you know, American barbecue is... Oh, yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
He's like, I've got this one. I've heard of slavery.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Well, it's a mix of a lot of things. But it's also like, I mean, rich people never had to figure out how to cook a brisket. They would get a steak, and they'd grill it, and it's done. Yeah. But if you have to learn how to cook something for 14 hours to make it taste good, that's a cheap cut of meat.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah. Put it in your pants.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
It really is. Is it going to splatter?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah. I mean, you've seen a knife before.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
She bit her trainer.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I've lost all my friends who have restrictions.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
They're gone.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Depends on how you say it and why. Is it Jews after? Like, what's the next word? Yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
The main thing is having an even thickness with them, too.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
No, but like dating in your 30s, because we met in our 30s, like you actually know what you like and don't like at that point. And it was so exciting to meet somebody where my life wasn't the interesting one.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I've never done it.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Oh, so when Bert was doing his cooking, you want to be involved? Once they're in hair and makeup with those cameras on, you want to be involved in the cooking? Yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
What can I do? How can I help you? Yeah, what can I do is a question you ask when everything's done. Can I tell you what's crazy about... It's not just whatever you want, by the way.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
The idea is you want even thickness. You want even thickness across the breast.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I do it so it didn't splash.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
It also helps it kind of be a little more even sometimes. Yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
So boring. Fresh herb breadcrumb.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah, when you think about it, you buy like a progresso, like Italian-style breadcrumbs that have dried spices, dried herbs in them, oregano, garlic, salt, you know, that kind of stuff. And so you season a breadcrumb, and when you do it with fresh herbs, it just, you know, think about the difference between a fresh herb and a dried herb. It just makes it kind of bright.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
It also looks really cool before you fry it, which is nice.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I just let him believe whatever he needs to believe.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Did you say how many subscribers you have on your YouTube channel?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
My cooking channel has one and a half million subscribers.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Lorazepam?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
She says it like this, lorazepam.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Well, yeah. She says it's a tsunami. It's tsunami. No, I talk like that.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I don't talk like this.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
You want to get that bright green kind of color going.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Oh, I think it was just mustard. Cool. So this is like the classic one that we would make growing up for the broccoli bread. But then I wanted like a more fun vegetarian one. So I did one with sauerkraut and broccoli and smoked cheddar. And then you dip that in mustard. So you were saying before that you had like when she started dating me, you were like looking me up.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
And I'm kind of fascinated by this because there's a couple people. Did he say that? in the comedy side, like comedians who are like headliners at the comedy store who get very, get like a little... Flower. I don't know if it's Papa Bear or they're kind of like checking in on her to make sure that she's making smart decisions or whatever it is. I don't know if that was your goal.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I think it's on high. When Eliza did the Dave Chang live show, he was totally unprepared for how well my wife understood the psyche of a chef.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
That she was basically, like, calling out his anxieties, and he was, like, lightly crumbling under it, and it made me very happy.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
It's probably a little hot.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
That setting. Well, it's like, have you ever, got onto an airplane, and sat next to a smoking hot chick?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Was she British royalty?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
No, I get quiet when I'm really mad.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
What's the number of people that you can cook for before it becomes less fun?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
He'll do it.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I guess he can tell, actually.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
She's brought blue cheese olives to a restaurant.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
That's it, that's it. I get food and drink rage about a few things. And one of them is martinis that are not real martinis. And I wrote an article about this for Punch because I got so mad about people trying on martinis as a personality. And the whole point of a martini is that it's not for everybody. That part of wanting to drink a martini is being a...
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
is like existential dread and simmering depression and getting... It's like stand-up. Getting dressed up to drink cold gin in a fancy glass at the end of the world. And that, to me, is the point of a martini. Once you add espresso and cucumbers and persimmons and black garlic oil, now I'm like, you're trying to convince 20-year-olds to drink martinis. So glad I didn't fly them out.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Well, he could have made a regular martini.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
It can just be a drink. Just don't call it a martini.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I mean, my mom always called it broccoli bread when we were growing up. Yeah. And then, like, some Italians call it stromboli. But it's like, you know, once Italians go to America, all the words get messed up. Look at this knife. They remove vowels from the ends of words.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
And it's just the worst look. I say that there's a lot of stuff I hope my kids grow up to be able to do, but there's two things they're going to do, which is be able to cook themselves dinner and say please and thank you. You've got to say please and thank you. And the rest, I'm going to try my best, but those are guarantees. Tell our daughter, we're like, you don't want to be a scumbag.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah, yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
We'll wait until I lose one.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I left it on. Wait, who was the old, somebody like, first of all, I'm not gay. Who had that press conference way back in the day? Donald Trump. This was like, I can't remember now.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
No, on the chicken?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I'm gonna cook the pasta.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
If we're chicken parming, then we put all the chickens on a thing, throw some parm on top, crack it in the oven, get a little bubble of pastry.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Like shredded or... Any?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
You can just hammer it with parm, too, if you want to. But if you got a little melty boy, that's always fine. What?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Where do you guys live?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Problown will do. Yeah, it'd be great. Problown.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I don't want to put them in the oven. Does the first one count?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
It was a kooky house.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Then we got pregnant.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
That sucks.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Whenever you go through a miscarriage, you find out that every woman you've ever met has gone through a miscarriage.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
It's proven that it's a joke because it's not covered by health insurance.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
And we love it. It had less stairs.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Wait, can you tell the Venmo story?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
He's like, look, this has gone through your head. It would have been more money.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Oh, it's a great idea. You should definitely do it. They always make money.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah. I would add salt, and then I would throw a little pat of butter in there.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
A little butter in a sauce at the end is one of the great tricks in the world.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Butter and tomatoes, it's one of the great... There we go. That's a pet, right?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
A loaf.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Also, when like, it just kind of like opens up the flavor, it mellows it out, it like combines it in a beautiful way.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Well, you know what one of the great tomato sauces in the world is? Have you ever had the Marcella tomato butter sauce before?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
So it's one of the, it's my number one favorite.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
She used to come to my restaurant. We went to the same gym. We lived near each other. We had a friend in common trying to set both of us up with different people.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I thought you like cared about chefs. Have you ever done a Tribble Run?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
No?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
No, but this is... Do ghosts exist anymore?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
No, but I should have all three cameras on me for this, because this is the most important thing. It's my number one favorite late-night drunk food you can make for people in the world. If you get home late at night... Isn't it in there? People are over... Isn't late-night drunk pasta? No, I have my own version of it, too.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
But the best one in the world is Marcella Hazan, who's one of the legends of cookbooks in the history of the world. She's long dead. But... It's basically, the ratio is a can of tomatoes, a half an onion, a stick of butter, salt, simmer it together, put it on pasta. It's the greatest pantry drunk food for your friends late at night in the world.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
By the way, did you know that now we're cooking with gas was a marketing slogan for the gas company?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
For real? I've got rants. I've got so many preloaded rants I can give you.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
If you want to talk about boxed chicken broth, boy, have I got a rant for you.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
And we had to meet online.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Don't gain weight. No, it's distilling the soul of a bird into liquid.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I think... Taste it again now.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I thought you said male comic.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I think there's a level of success that you reach where you can't babysit anymore without...
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Oh, yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
How many times have you sent... a picture of your kids to a male friend?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
No, you just can't keep it on your hard drive.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Once it's in your hidden folder on your phone, that's when you start getting in trouble.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah, if you're still dating and you're 30, we've all. We've all fucked each other. We've all fucked each other.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Did you salt the pasta water?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
What is it called? Isn't it a stromboli? My mom always called it broccoli bread. You can call it a stromboli.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Eau de toilette, if you will.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah. Yeah. It's, what is it, literally means bathroom water? Mm-hmm, bath water.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Different jobs. They have different functions.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
So, like, if I'm making pasta with clams, I want a dried pasta because I want the dried pasta to absorb as much clam juice as possible so that the pasta tastes of the clam liquor. Of the clam liquor? Yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
The clam liquor.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Are you gonna show how hard Bert is? Yeah, where's the... Damn. Where's that poker camera that shows with the hand he's hiding? What's it called, the hole cam?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
We were talking about this yesterday. You can see how Italian-Americans became Italian-Americans. Where they said things like mozzarella.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Just like at a classy restaurant.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
We got them. I don't have a knife.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah, I mean, depends on if you overcook the chicken. So for a large amount of my childhood, there was like a half a loaf of this broccoli bread in the fridge that I would just open like a burrito and eat cold out of the fridge in the morning as a kid.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
It's one of my favorite things in the world. I've heard all those things before. Wow. It's great. The inside is cooked perfectly. There's no raw dough in the middle. The bottom is a nice crust. The part in the food show where you just say, look at that.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
No. Because that was booming.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Oh, my God.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
It's one of the greats. It's a perfect kid food. Do kids fucking love it? Kids do love it.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I mean, it depends on what else you're trying to do. If you want garlic to be the dominant place, then yeah. Always, always, always. Then yeah, go crazy. It's good for you. Why don't you just eat garlic and then it's 100% garlic?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
And remarkably on sale on Amazon right now. I think it's like we arranged it just for the show to have it on Amazon. That is so wildly good. If there was a world where I just got to come over to your house and you cooked me my food, I'd be pretty stoked. That's so erotic.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Wait, do you think they're using the same one? The name of the country's changed by then. What's your favorite Italian restaurant in LA? And I'll tell you the right answer.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Mozza. I have two answers. Okay. So Mozza is, like, I love them. They're super, they're the best. I've hung out with them a bunch. We go there a lot. We go there a lot. Angelini Osteria is the best actually Italian restaurant in LA. Where is that? It's on Beverly. Beverly. Beverly between Fairfax and La Brea.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
It's like, it's been around forever. It's Gino Angelini. He's like old school. It feels like going to a restaurant in Italy.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
You got to go. It's really nice. Every server basically was like given a visa. Your burner's on. Was given a visa and flown here. To work at the restaurant and be a server.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
And he lived with you?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Before you had money?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
And I said... I wonder why he didn't accept. He wouldn't...
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Wait, so the heavy drinking is not causing it. Is it just the garlic?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
It would be so bad. We have ovens here.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Well, here's my question. I've always thought about this. Why can't you have good food at a comedy club?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
But would you ever go if it wasn't a comedy show?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
When I opened Blood So's in L.A., we ended up... It became, like, a sports bar hub. And I think it's one of the only sports bars that you would go there to eat if you're not watching a game. Right, right, right, right. And there are not, I don't think, any comedy clubs where you'd eat there if there wasn't comedy. Right, that'd be weird, I guess.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Unprompted by anything?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
That's also, I guess, kind of a sports bar that you would go to if there's not a game on.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Carb loading. I'm really good at the first part of training for a marathon. Yeah. Just the eating pasta. I'm good at the first part of bulking up. was not the weight cutting. I'm really good at bulking up.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Another reason you shouldn't invest in restaurants.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
What is it? Zengil? Zengilov Hats. Zengilov Hats. It's in Glendale, and they do these beautiful, it's like a flatbread stuffed with a ton of cooked down greens and rolled up, and that's it. And you open the menu, look, we have one thing, Zengilov Hats. They also have tea.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
And it's just one thing. It's my favorite. I love shit like that.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah, I remember that.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
It was also like a 6,000-square-foot restaurant. Like, nobody needs it to be that big.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I was like, I'm powerless over everything.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Apologies for my friends who want to do this with me, but the thing that I am the most... Give me a second. The thing that I'm most upset about not existing that I want to make happen is there should be a dive bar in the valley that makes East Coast-style bar pies. Yes, yes. Like thin, crispy bar pies. That's all I fucking want in the world. If you want to invest in something, invest in that.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Say the same thing at the same time, ready?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Let me tell you the trick. So this is why the bar pie thing to me makes so much sense. I fucking love this guy.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
He's like, let me get this out.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
This is so serious for him. Because basically, you think about the business model. And when you're selling drinks at a dive bar, the drinks are pure profit. The bar pies are there to get people to come in and buy fucking drinks. Yes, yes. And so, like, look, we have a barbecue place. It does very well. It's an awesome thing.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
But, like, if you buy a 15-pound brisket, you smoke it for 14 hours with real hardwood, now it's eight pounds. You're just, like, pouring money down the drain. But if you're selling dive bar cocktails and you're getting to make some nice pizzas, dive bar pizzas, like bar pies, it's, I have a whole rant about it. Have you been to it?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Neapolitan pizza and this insane universe in which people will pay $28 for a pizza this big that's 80% crust. It's soupy. And has two ounces of cheese on it.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
In the middle. And then you make an 18-inch New York-style pizza, and everyone's just like, $30? Are you out of your mind that it feeds four people? Drives me fucking crazy. I want thin, crispy bar pies. I want cocktails. I want no windows. Let's go.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I never read it.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I think it's very funny.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
You got to get an investor in you.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I'm not doing it. I'm not telling you about what I say during sex.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Richard Shaw.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Richard Shaw's. Richard Shaw's. It's a classy dive bar.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Oh, yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
We could make a Roberta's just do a straight trans bar.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Okay, which is yours.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Salted. My favorite Spanish word is, how do you say bubbles in Spanish? Oh. Burbujas. Burbujas.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
He goes . Why do you give it an Italian accent? I don't know, I'm not good at this.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I thought you were gonna say Michael Jackson. I feel like I'm eating more of my food than everybody else. You ate so much of your food.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
That's why I'm in the filthy platter orgy. That's more my speed. Just a group of men laying across a lot of food.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
He was the big Jared guy was the main reason, right?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah, so basically what it, to me, what it always came down to is like, and I don't know, you might be in a similar boat. I'm like a people pleaser to a certain degree.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I think I left that camera on.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
It's kind of why you get into the restaurant business, but you end up, I wanted to learn how to make tomato sauce that she liked the best, because I make it the way that I make it, and then eventually you kind of end up having a version that she likes, which is more of a smoother textured sauce, so more of a blended tomato sauce. Really?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I'll bet she regrets turning it off now. Yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah, because I grew up with much more of a chunky, kind of rustic, hand-crushed, grandma-style sauce. And then I find that when I blended it, I got to cook pasta more often at home.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
How much. Over the course of life. I'm not looking over there. So developing new set to special coming out. How much does your wife see of it?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
There have been days you haven't kissed me on the mouth.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Well, you can want to share and not want feedback. That's why I feel like stand-up. I don't need the feedback. I try to talk to young guys about it sometimes, too. Women wanting to dress sexy doesn't mean that they want you to fuck them. Sometimes it's about wanting to share something and not wanting feedback.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah, I was a, I mean, I always loved cooking, but I was a writer first and foremost, and then it kind of got sucked into, you know, sort of journalism and writing and things like that, and then working in restaurants, and then, yeah, had a kind of bizarre path to becoming a chef, and then kind of came back to the writing side, and now pretty much write cookbooks.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah. Unless you're super hot. What is the epitome of luxury to you?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
You want to be LeBron, but not play basketball.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I would love to.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Done. Just a couple mil and I'm ready to hang out. Let's go.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah, yeah.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Blow your shit up real quick. Yeah, well, so basically. Do you guys want a glass of champagne?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I feel like we're boarding an international flight. Champagne? Champagne. But yeah, so.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Wow.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Thank you so much.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I have a theory that there's one bottle of Vouv that everyone in Hollywood passes around to each other.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Anytime you go somewhere, they're like, and here's a bottle. And you're like, oh, it's Vouv. Thank you so much. And then you just give it away.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I need to close that account. I think I left that camera on.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
I am, yeah. It's my one sport that I really follow.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
No, I actually grew up hating the Lakers. I grew up in L.A., but, like, I always found Laker fans to be deeply obnoxious. I always thought that they were, like, really hot, rich, dumb girls who think they deserve everything and get it. And I always found them to be deeply obnoxious.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Oh, yeah, when Luca went to the Lakers, I was angry.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
Yeah, and they're going to probably become Laker fans.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
No, I think when I was, like, 92, so I think I didn't realize the Clippers existed, and it was, like, the Barkley Sons era.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
What did we do wrong?
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
So I just became a Suns fan for every reason. And then because I like punishment, I just kept at it. And it's been a not super fulfilling experience for the majority of my life.
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Something’s Burning: Iliza Shlesinger + Noah Galuten + The World’s Greatest Sausage Bread | S5 E11
They've been so bad for the majority of our relationship that when they finally got good again for a brief period of time, I was like... You've never actually seen me watch a playoff game.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Well, then why are you here? Because you guys invited us. Oh, that's right. So I'm going to be honest. I was at my house the other day. I was flipping through. And then all of a sudden, there's these two British guys on my Instagram feed. I don't know who they are. And they're like, hey, we're from England, and I'm not going to try and do the impression. And we're headed to Shreveport, Louisiana.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
They were conditioned to believe. Yeah, that's right. Ingrained.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
We're going to go with ingrained in you to be very proper. Yeah, ingrained. Okay.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Have you ever had... Do you want to size first or yours? Mine, his first.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
McDonough's, I got on fish and chips.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
McDonough's. No, McDonough's. Not McDonald's.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
It's really good. It had fish and chips. I was hoping it was a chain and I was going to get y'all to send me some. Apparently, it's not a chain. Don't worry about it. What's the most interesting thing you've ever seen here in America?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
I think the UK is bigger than Louisiana. You can drive here for hours and never come to the end.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
They pronounce it not Baumholder. I'm going to have to Google that.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
It's right over there by Great Britain. Right over there. K-town. K-town.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Yeah, over there by that forest.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
What's the coolest thing y'all have done since you've been over here?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Like, I've been to Europe. I didn't even stop in y'all's country. I went to the cooler ones. Hold on, what are the cooler ones? Italy and stuff. But no, I'm just kidding. But when y'all were looking at the map, and y'all said, let's go to the United States, of America, what made you say, hurrah, Shreveport?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
I've eaten a gar in this room.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
You can eat anything you want.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
It is disgusting. British fish and chips is way better than that.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Yeah, that's wonderful. But he's such a smooth talker to all the ladies.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
I'm trying to think of the most American thing one can possibly do.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Y'all were shooting at people?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Did they let y'all come back home?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Well, that's a funny story. Because if it was in like Arkansas, that's not a bull.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
His dog had one leg missing?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
I've got so many more questions. Do y'all just open the DMs and say, we're on our way?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Yeah, Buffalo Bob's going to message y'all one of these days. Yeah, we've made memories.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
You don't want to know. Yeah. I do. He's going to have your face one day. Anyway.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
You be careful. I've been to... No, I haven't. Yeah.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
I haven't, Epcot. Anyway. So we got to keep Uncle Si away from them because he's as crazy as they are. Yeah, he would just go places. He would take them to a monster truck. This guy's jumped 10 crushed cars in a monster truck. Have you done that? And nobody knew it but him.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
So I didn't have to sign any paperwork for this.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
We don't have one. We're a very small podcast. We just saw you trying to chew a crawfish head, so we're going to bring you in to make fun of you. My bad.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Yo, so look. He's gone. Time out. We got a tea catastrophe. The tea had ice in it.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
So Josh and Jace are looking at the picture right now, Si. Your airborne right here, yeah.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
That's the picture that y'all saw.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
So look. That's why I wouldn't sign any papers the next time we went to an event where he was going to drive.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
I was thinking I'll fly away.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
I was thinking ring of fire. Free bird. Ring of fire.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
So have y'all planned out what you're doing in your last two months?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
We're all going. What's on your bucket list? What do y'all want to do? Especially while you're here. I just want to meet Willy. I saw some alligators. Y'all were messing with some alligators. Yeah, we're trying to find wild alligators.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
I don't know if you know what happens when they die. They decay.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
He said, I ain't wrestling. But he can't catch him.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Yeah, you just got to supervise.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Yeah, we got you all some duck calls, by the way. This is so cool. Why don't you give it a test, and we'll let Si judge you. Yeah, here we go.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
You were holding that like a crumpet tea. I feel like I'm about to beat the queen. Hey, that's a bit for you. Yeah, there it is.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
That's all I ever went there for, too.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
That's a different movie, man. You've never seen Robin Hood Men in Tights and you're from Nottingham?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Bridge over River Kwai. But before y'all go, our Canadian producer, Beth, has questions about the UK as well. Is willy a bad word?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
It's kind of like the kiddie childish way of saying it. Gotcha.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Yeah. No, that's something else, Martin. Martin thought of something else.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
I thought it was just my old boss.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
I like the way you did that.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
No, but there's all sorts of weird words that they say. Are there any words we say that y'all like have pause on? Oh no, did they really just say that?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
So have you ever heard this phrase, we're down like four flat tires?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
We're close. We go way back. We're down.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
We're down like four flat tires.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Yeah, you can use that one.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
I'm going to let you know that the 70s, whenever he was around, were a different time.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
That's not true. I've never heard that in my life. But he's wearing a Rolex. Yeah, that's true. Maybe you're out of touch now.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Yeah! He nailed it. He nailed Johnny D. I'll have done it today.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Can you stay for a while?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
It's so crickets and worms.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
If it's after you ate a crawfish head, it's definitely not nice.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Oh, yeah. So everywhere he goes, they say, Josh, the girls, the pretty women say, I love your eyes. Can I have your eyes? And he said, no, but our children... Let him take over.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
With those two? Yeah, with these two guys.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
I'm going to win this. What's your best pickup sign? Jace wants to know your best pickup line.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
It was the dance hall back then. They came running over.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
So they put a video up of them. They're like, we're going to try crawfish for the first time. And they literally were like. Sorry, is that the British red coat dance?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
I told you that a long time ago because everybody else's name was Josh.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
He's like a person from Westman Row can do this.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
I'm related to the king.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Or Josh, whichever one you want. I'll call you Josh. He was amazed that everybody in the room's name was Josh. I was like, Josh, good to meet you.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
And I just left it. John David, John Phillip, John Silas. Yeah, we're all John.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
That's actually kind of true. Okay, fair enough. Phillip used to be, you ever seen the movies with the rollerbladers dancing?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
They've never seen a fat person before.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
It's a great beard. I met the girl that I married in an aerobics class. She was the teacher.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Yeah. And so that's... I mean, I didn't have any great lines.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Look at me. What do you think?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
I'm joking. I'm joking.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
I'm playing. No, no, no. John, what do you get?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Picking up women. So you know mine. I've told it many times. You walk up to the girl. You say, hey, you want to go get a pizza and make out?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
No, they never say yes. Ah, there's layers. There's layers to this.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
No, they normally say no, and then you just say, you don't like pizza? Oh! Then they laugh. Next thing they know. They're at a pizza hut and they don't know how they got there.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Hey, right there. Three kids later, baby. My man.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
How old are y'all? I can't tell how old British kids are.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Let's guess. Y'all are kind of like. What's your guess on how old these guys are? Jason, Josh.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
They're both in a relationship.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
My man. He is 22. Jace is 22. I'm going to say 26, 25. What are you saying, Si, for Jace?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
22? No, no, 32, 29. You can never tell British people.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Hey, you got to have roughy. Si eats the peel of oranges. Respect. I respect that, you know?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Gorilla groove. Why don't they do that in England?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
And Mexico wins. All right.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Very different. Is it the New Mexico border or the border between New Mexico and Mexico?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
We got to the border. Safety second. And then they came to Shreveport.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
To be fair, I don't know where you were in more danger, Turkey, Shreveport, or the border of Mexico.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
There are some great places in Shreveport.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
I got your back. Shreveport sucks.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Why is your manager calling me now?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Hey, trust me, there's like three people in Shreveport with an iPhone. Nobody saw that. Okay, okay, good. How do you turn this thing off? I hate Shreveport with everything I have. I'm just surprised you could drive through there to get to here. Yeah. How terrible was that road? Listen, this is beautiful and tearing here.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
They're also going bald. We're sending them to Turkey later.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
J.D. We got to end this because we're going off. This has been a ride, guys. We do end every one with a Bible verse.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
They went from red coats to red necks. Amen to that, brother. They went from red coats to red necks. That's good. I like that.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
And I was told y'all brought one yourself. Absolutely. Let's hear it. Yeah, okay.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Well, thank you for joining us today. It's been fun. Absolutely.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
There you go. Go check them out. I've recently found them due to their Shreveport mischievousness and it brought joy to my heart to see somebody in a motel in Shreveport panicking. It's a fun time. They're great guys. Yep. Brothers in Christ from a long way away, but you know.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
So for our fans, what brings you to, well, you said you've been to America 25 times. I just found you because you got lost in Shreveport, and I love it. It's my favorite thing ever because that town scares me. But what brings you to America 25 times?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
We got Prince Josh and Duke Jace here with us. You're Josh from England number two?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Oh, like a mini meet and greet. It was crazy. Well, I'm pretty sure you're in the algorithm because all of Louisiana is making fun of you right now.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
For A, staying in a motel in Shreveport, and B, eating a crawfish. Yeah, yeah. But we appreciate... I'll say this. I appreciate two dudes who are, y'all are a little bit of fish out of water, just diving in and seeing what happens. Yeah.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Oh, yeah. Crocodile Dundee. We need some Australia.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
My son thinks Zazu from the Lion King is Australian and he's willing to die on that hill. I'm like, no, he's British. Can we just, every one of y'all, I have to ask, Why are y'all Great Britain sometimes and England others?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Well, there's like five countries in one of them countries. We got you.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
So Wales is basically the Shreveport of Great Britain. But why does Wales have their own soccer team and then y'all get like the swimming team in your Great Britain?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
But you got your Bible, so apparently whatever you got banned for, you repented of. Cheers to that. But we're excited to have some English people in the house. We have made fun of England more than any other country on this podcast.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Wait until he breaks out some more of that Psy International version on you dummies. No one comes to the Father except for me, you dummy idiot.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
See, we don't know what a Brit is.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
I'm looking at the website right now, Martin. There's so many to choose from. It's exciting.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Is that how y'all preachers talk over there?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
So you brought your Bible.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
And you probably go to a different style of church than Louisiana here. And that's totally just a... I'm guessing it's Baptist, right? Are we talking like a Baptist?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
I have no idea what part of Irish he was from. Irish Island. I've been there.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
No, no, no. We're a team to everybody.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
My question was, though, because no matter which flavor we are of whatever it is, that Louisiana church is going to look different than British church. And, you know, I've been to Epcot, but I also have been to Europe. That was a joke. Anyway, and y'all have got these buildings that are unbelievable while we go to church in glorified gyms, right?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
So is it like, I don't even know what city y'all are from. Manchester? No. That is, where have you picked up? Well, you said that's the, oh, you're just a fan of the good team. So you're like a Yankee, Alabama fan, Laker fan. Okay. Caught you on that one. Yeah. So where are y'all from?
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
It's a different kind of tea than he's used to. Welcome back to the Duck Call Room. We're here with some friends. They're from very nearby. They came across a small pond over in a neighborhood called the Atlantic Ocean.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
There we go. Exactly. So now my son is stationed in the Air Force at Lackinheath. And so we went to go visit him.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
Yeah, where is that? That sounds like it's Lord of the Rings. It's in England. Here's my question. Why do y'all hate ice? I couldn't find any ice.
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Uncle Si Turns British TikTok Stars from Redcoats to Rednecks
No, I want to know about their church back home in Nottingham. Okay, okay. Is it like a cathedral? Do you walk in and like, don't move? Yeah, we're in a cult. No, no, no.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
I literally walked in the house. I was like, check out what I got you. And told Allison. And she looked at it and goes, wow. And I said, okay.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Like Cy and that dressing. He was just like, not much.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
There's people listening that are just losing their mind over you calling 71 cold.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
That is what your sister-in-law also told us. Alex can confirm your side of the story.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Of all people you can call anti-sage, you cannot call Stone, who takes his daughter Sage, hunting.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
I would think it would be weird if you didn't get buck fever though.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
What have you done in life if you're not like fired up? If it doesn't shake you up,
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
The high while you're there is 76.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
It's because our friends at MyPillow have a passion to help everyone get the best sleep of their life.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
They can't stop. They won't stop.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
I might move to Key West. That sounds nice.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Well, I guess I haven't seen the angry, angry Si, but you know.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Irritated Si, it's fun, but it's kind of scary.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
The words I'm sorry didn't come out. Quasi, quasi, apology.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
You should take her to one of them hockey games in town where they throw all the snakes on the ice.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
He just raised his eyebrows.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
He said, yeah, I guess.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
I feel like the leaders in the military should have been the bear. How are you the bear?
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Yeah, he possesses the ability. In Desert Storm... That's cool. Cy Robertson was in charge of the red button for... Well, I'm just telling you, hey.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
I'm telling you, I don't know what we're going to call the movie, whether it be The Blind 2, Forrest Gump 2, or whatever it is, but the movie about Cy Robertson's life is going to be outstanding.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
a really interesting life you you drove down okay where were you so hey now we know you could have got arrested for driving with the briefcase down your you had a brief i don't wear one hand to drive what town was this huh where were you
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
I drive on the right side of the road. Oh, do they? No, only England does that. Only England drives on the wrong side of the road.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Okay. England, the only people that can't figure out what side of the road to drive.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Guys, the briefcase is locked. This is where we stop. We've sawed his arm off, but... We can't get in here. Taking a skill assault to the briefcase where we draw the line.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
He's had a very active life in which he took a nap every day in the military for 24 years.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
No, well, so you remember the guy we talked about that killed the banded goose? Stone, I don't think you were here for this. A blind guy shot a banded goose. Really? Yeah.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
But we said, we assumed falsely.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
they have a foundation for people to hunt that have disabilities uh yeah the rolling Dallas the blind guy he he got literally shot in the face yeah and that's what blinded him seven years ago but now he's out there just whacking and stacking yeah birds blind and that was his buddy Jacob Jacob Jackson that's well wait a minute I I want to you know
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
I've never killed a banded goose.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
I was going to go something with he made it rain big old fat drops of water.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
What's the guy with the parrot?
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
I couldn't pull off the Coco Beware, but I would like a parrot. That just seems cool. Yeah. Yeah. That just seems awesome.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Oh. They's fired up. Martin, do you have a wrestler name?
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
With the last name Owen, it would probably be something like the Ozone.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Does that cover the whole earth or something like that?
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Well, that came from my javelin days. When I threw the javelin, my buddy would yell, scrape the ozone.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
The flying three. His special move would be the walrus, and it's when he came from the top.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Hunter'd have the weirdest walkout song. Guarantee that.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
You can't just claim Kanye West and have somebody give you one?
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Like, all four of us walk out together. Your white moon boy, he was on the streets trying to consent. Matthew 19, 26, before we get off the rails. Jesus looked at them and said, with man, this is impossible, but with God, all things are possible. Amen, buddy.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
I would do Kanye West to use this gospel.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
It's hard to get rid of.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
I've seen duck lies on ducks. I just guess I never had one attack me.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Crawling and irritating.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
We have not discussed that.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
You and your children's affection for, like, hugging dead animals. Oh, hey, here's the deal, though. That will affect their future. Have you seen this picture, Si?
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
What would Jimmy Buffett do, boy? Jimmy Buffett's the man. It's 5 o'clock somewhere.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Eating wild game organs, I'm just going to pass.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Martin, you know what would have been awesome? What? Invest in the stock market right at the right time and in the right place when everybody made all that money.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
But it was tough. I didn't have no money.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
A man who listens to No Shoes Radio definitely vacations in Key West.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
He pick up a yard for you? Mm-hmm.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
What's weird is, do you know what today is?
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
The day we were filming this, four years ago, we started the first episode of The Duck Call Room aired.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
That's crazy. December 3rd, 2020 was the first ever episode of the Duck Call Room. Really? You didn't have any children, and now you got children that eat rice out of the duck's throat. Attempt to. He didn't get it there. It's close enough.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
I love it there. Are you doing that fishing where you don't catch it, but you grab it and take a picture and let it go back?
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Just because you can do something doesn't mean that you shouldn't. Hey, look. Hey, Phil done it a lot.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Okay. Phil's done a lot of things.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Well, hey, you know, I'm just telling you, you can't eat either. You can. That does not mean it's a good idea. You know what I mean? You should do it. It would be kind of interesting.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Tony's charerigous. Has this little green box of jambalaya. It's delicious.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
I've been trying to convince people of that.
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My sister made a homemade jambalaya the other night, and it was delicious.
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Like, it was really good. It took her half the day.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Oh, amen. But I was just, and my wife was like, I need this recipe. And we left, and I was like, you got to remember, though. That little green box.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
I mean, it's just, it ain't as good, but it's awful close.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
Oh, I love a. It's kind of like.
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Uncle Si Spills His Top Secret Mission Details From the Military
He's on the Mayhaw Jelly. Mayhaw Jelly. I bought some store-bought Mayhaw Jelly the other day. Trash. I was thinking I was going to be the hero at the house. I was not.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Ha, ha, ha. What is that woman ordering?
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Oh, it ain't no surprise.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
You can't surprise this man. Phillip just, hey, he said, hey, me and your wife got together. We're throwing you a party. I said, I know it.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Because, hey, I'm the one that says, hey, throw me a party.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
I said, hey, I'll tell plenty of people because we'll set up two tables. When I bust the first table, I'll go to the second table and win all their money too.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Well, I ain't going to be able to make it. Oh, yeah. I ain't no kiddie table with this bunch of I'm with.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Because, hey, we invited him to play with us one time. He clipped everybody for $4,500. Good grief. And when we got ready to leave, we was walking out the door, and I said, hey, by the way, we're playing again Friday night. You want to come? And he said, hey, don't ever call me. I'm out. He said, I've never played with anybody, especially just 10 people at the table.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
He said, I've never played with 10 people that they won't fold.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Oh, yeah. Especially if Willie's there because if me and Willie get in and he's playing. Oh, yeah. I ain't doing it.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
That's a good idea. One thing. You brought plenty of cash.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
He said, hey, I got enough to cover you there, old boy.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
I said, well, okay, I'm just checking, son.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Y'all done got me somebody in here, and I didn't even know it.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
If I look nervous, it's because I know who's going to be demonstrated on. You already know better than that.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
He's going to try this.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Homie, don't play that.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
That was her older sister.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
So you're pretty serious. She's in training most of the time.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Not only that, I've watched her because she was learning some moves when we went to Houston. I was watching the young lady that was training her. You just tell her once, and then the next time I know, she's, you know, they're fixing to have a little contest with all the kids. Well, she starts, you know, just annihilating everybody.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
They have a little fist bump when they start, but then the next thing that happens is, let me go, let me go.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
And pretty good size young man.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
So you choked out your brother-in-law.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
I was there. She come running in, jumped up behind him, and they got to put your arm around it, and they cut off the oxygen supply. Well, why don't we let Sage show you exactly how to apply that choke on Johnny D. Well, on Johnny D. She come in one day, started it, invited me for a meal.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
It don't make any difference. All right. This is all about technique, J.D.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
This what she's learned is not about strength. Well, she's very strong. Oh, no, no, no, no. But I'm saying it's nothing about strength because you're way muscular than she is. She's going, yes, you are. You didn't feel her forearm on your neck, man. Oh, no. Stone had invited me for a steak one night over there, and I'm sitting on the couch.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
She comes running in, and I've been playing, and got right in front of me, squared up, and said, Uncle Si. I said, what? She said, you want to wrestle? No, you don't. I said, say, get back out in the yard. No, I ain't wrestling you. Is that what he told you?
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
I just want to tell you one time, there's a girl that won, and Sage told her, she said, you know the only reason you won? Girl said, what? She said, because I couldn't be in your league yet.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
I said, hey, you don't want to mess with me because, hey, look, he's right here with me.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
You know, it's a grizzly bear thing. Hey, if you're going to be a bear, be a grizzly. You're going to have muscle. Hey, I got a grizzly over there.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
If you're sitting on the couch in her house, beware.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Practice makes perfect, boys.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Well, no, no, but you got to think about it, okay? You said, okay, four and five days a week. Okay, she's doing that for what?
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
An hour? And every day she's doing squats and lunges and all the things. She's doing them when she comes home. She's got to go through a routine of staying in shape.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Oh, no, no. Like if you tell her the facts.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
I was waiting when she said he pushed a friend of mine and then I pushed him and I was waiting for it. Then she said, then I took him down.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Yeah. You better go. You better be like Eagle.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
I'm serious because, hey, look, they learned something there that will help them throughout their life.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Hey, he pushed her. Then he made the mistake of pushing me. I pushed him back. Then I was waiting for it. I said, all right, what came next? It ended. Then I took it.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Hold on. She waited at him. She let him know.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
One thing, Sage. This is your free one.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
She's got confidence. She's got confidence.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
The whole thing. It's all about defense. You're never really the aggressor. But when they aggress you, then you take them down. It's like I said, you don't have to take them down.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
I'm telling you. It's all about defense.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
It's really an eye-opening experience to watch somebody that's good at what they do. Oh, yeah, it don't matter what it is. And it doesn't make any difference what they're doing. Yeah. But if you see somebody that's really good at something, it's fun to watch.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
You went from just learning about it to an exceptional level of actually doing it.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Well, you're never going to.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Yeah, there ain't no end to it.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
I watched that with all the masters. Okay, because you got to think about that. All the masters of all these, I don't even know what to call them.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
All the masters of the martial arts.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
You know, how many was it? How many of your masters?
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
It was a lot of them. But hey, guess who won it all?
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Jiu-Jitsu master. Yeah. And look, like Kung Fu.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Walker, Texas Ranger, boy.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
At what age is it going to be?
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Yeah, you need to let me shoot that duck hunting one.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Well, no, no, because me and a buddy, we hunted dove, and we had a single barrel .410. Mm-hmm. You'd shoot one, I'd shoot one. Yes. The .410 is a magnificent little gun.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
It goes fast, don't it?
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
I had a guy tell me when he was in his 65 and I was mid-30s. He said, hey, you better enjoy it while you can, Robertson. He said, you'll blink, and he said, you'll be my age. It was true. I blinked, and hey, boom, 65. Now I blink again, boom, 67, 77.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Hey, a man's got to do what he enjoys doing.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
That's the key to success, boys. Do what you like doing.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
So what was your midlife crisis a few years ago?
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
But it's more fun doing what you're saying.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Well, I think so, because he taught me that with deer hunting.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Okay, it's way more fun if you're, because like, I hunted one deer, for two years. Yeah.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Well, it left me kind of, well, what in the world am I going to do? I chased him for two years and finally got him.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
They want to be making music.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
My wife and her. Is it a violin or a violin? Went to see Minecraft. Said it was funny.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
I think that's what they went to see.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
This was like you got a chicken under your arm when you go and see it. At a certain time, whenever it happens.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
You yell chicken jockey and throw him up and let him go.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
So they're just trashing the theaters, which is a problem. No, that was one of the things they said on it. They said, hey, look, some poor guy's got to clean up all of y'all's big mess. So don't do that.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Yeah. He said, hey, call the cops.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Oh, there you go. He said it. Chicken jockey.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Come to the movie and throw popcorn.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Here's what gets me. It's all about breaking the law. Everything they're doing nowadays is about breaking the law. That is true.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Is it illegal to bring a chicken into a theater? They'll probably have a vest for the stupid.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Everybody's going crazy still.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Know about the creation and know the creator.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Got some good people there.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Most of them are tender.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Sounds like you cooked it too long.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
They got something to them.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
The best one on that is what? Blaze and Settle.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
But that thing there is hilarious.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
But that, that, that's one of the better things is, is like fail with us. The spitting things are one of our, our duck on video.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Oh, no, no. Hey. And I mean, yo, it was a hunk of a cigar.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Well, yo, he's been smoking it, you know, half the hunt. Then he just showed him. He kind of looked at it and just. The next day, you know.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Well, they used to have contests with that crap.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Yeah, it had a target, you know. Yeah. Oh, it was wild.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
I remember going in the poo wall before they played dominoes all the time, going in there.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Oh, yeah. Really? In Vivian, Louisiana, that's where everybody gathered.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Oh, yeah. And then they had them spittoons. Don't put it close.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
That's got to be over against the wall.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Yeah, they'll make a ding when you hit it, yo.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
And all you heard was poof, poof, and then you ding.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Oh, no, hey, it was something to see.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
I don't know. Phil's not much on games.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Like all his kids, you know, Al and all them played spades and all this, that jump, you know, and was actually like Jace was, you know, number one, you know, at spades.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
He just, no, he had that, he had it, you know, it was,
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
That's why they call him Slick. At Yahoo Spades?
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Daddy then played that.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
They got serious on this crap, boy.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
I can beat him in poker, son.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
I give him, you know, hey, we have some good ones now. But, like, when I actually get mad, he makes me mad, and I say I'm after him. Yeah. He don't play anymore. He's out. Yeah, he's out. Yeah. He folds. Cause he's done that three or four times. And I just said, Hey, you know, and I am using cuss words when I told him. Yeah. He had done got me angry. And I said, well, Hey, guess what?
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
I said, Hey, I'm on tail.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Yeah. And then I, he's still playing. Yeah.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Yeah. Yeah, when he gets me mad, he does. Yeah.
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Justin Martin and His Wife Get Scared by Son's Surprise X-Ray
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Avery's playing the music and Ashford's playing the game.
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I'll sell them to you. Martin will probably give them to you.
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John Godwin’s Wife Won’t Let Him Retire in Peace
Wait, what? Oh, yeah, that's what we had up there.
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John Godwin’s Wife Won’t Let Him Retire in Peace
Why is Gorilla Glue so much fun to play with?
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John Godwin’s Wife Won’t Let Him Retire in Peace
I'll melt it. I don't think it's a melt issue.
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John Godwin’s Wife Won’t Let Him Retire in Peace
Yeah. Yeah. I'd like a big rabbit. That'd be cool.
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John Godwin’s Wife Won’t Let Him Retire in Peace
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
all right that's like not saying there's a switch that changed in otas but I don't know it gets kind of more I don't know I get juiced for it a little bit I like it more for the routine I feel like like we get back on schedule so like this is your first time right to to go as far as we did like was there was your body ready to get back in your routine or like when did you start training again
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
What do you call his hat? You know what he's called his hat? I forgot what it's called.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
He loves a cigar.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
It's classic. I feel like too, this might be off the wall, but like your significant other or something. It's got to go well together.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
Let her like, boom.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
Like pop. Sarah killed it.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
So like the Met was in New York, right? Yeah. And you are from that area, correct?
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
Nice, dude. I remember being that far away. Where? well i grew up in bama yeah small town and then i went to college in middle tennessee so i was like an hour and 40 from home yeah so i was in mt for five years but then you know come up here and out the way bro yeah it's had 13 hours maybe different It's different.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
I mean, I lived in Iowa my whole life, so it's been, like, went to college there, grew up there, so. So, like, you grew up in a small town, and then Iowa was probably the biggest thing since you grew up, right? Yeah. And then you move here. It's a lot different.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
midwest midwest like what are they like i was they're like some of the nicest people yeah i think yeah like growing up i was nice yeah it's like a saying like growing up too is like if somebody's sick or something happens to another family like my mom would always fix a a dinner or something for them same like you know what i'm saying bring it to their house
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
I think I might, I could, I don't know. I think I might just be the only one.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
No, like Super Bowl winners. But like NFL, I think I was the first one from my school in 50 years.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
Like how recent?
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
It's great to chop it up. I'll see you in the locker room, man.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
Don't change, man. Don't change, man.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
So what? We got a little pepperoni right here on this side. A little cheese on the other.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
Do I want a corner piece? I'm going to go for this one in here. Yeah, you got to. I might as well do the same thing. Might as well. Well, you know what? I'm going to do the pepperoni side.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
I love how it's like cupped pepperonis.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
Yeah, on my face. Surviving out here. The cupped pepperoni is I think slept on.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
I was around probably 7, 6, 7, 7 on pepperoni.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
Yeah, I think so too.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
No, thank you so much, Angelos. Angelos, thank you. For this pizza. I wish you guys would take it home with me.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
Yeah. Yeah, Rory.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
play golf dude what golf yeah that's really that's good yeah golf golf yeah why golf cuz I'm not that good at it right now I just feel like it's cool it's cool to be outside I'd have to pick basketball basketball was my basketball was my first love so do you see his highlights
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
He's dunking over folks. You don't got to watch them.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
One stadium we're going to get to play in is Green Bay. I've always... I wanted to play there. I don't know, I guess the history behind it or just the historical part, but I hope it's snowing, like pouring snow. Cold. Cold, free. Give me the true, was it Wisconsin, right? Wisconsin weather. Wisconsin weather, man.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
Well, to answer the first part, let's see, in 2019, I had a compound fracture in my left leg. And it was a very tough process mentally and physically. And obviously, I wasn't able to walk on it until...
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
maybe the next year so that's when 2020 was and COVID was a thing and in that time that's when you know the power five schools were deciding whether or not football should even be played that year and you know you're sitting there like looking at it I have a bum leg I'm just trying to get back and you're just you don't know if you're going to be able to play this this sport this year and
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
obviously advanced my career to the NFL. And, um, looking back now, I feel like it's, it's gotten me to this point. It's made me a lot stronger. And to answer your second part, just find that support system. Um, you know, I wasn't doing it alone. I always had somebody in my corner. My corner was my parents at the time. And, um, They helped me through it all.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
I was able to be real with them, shed tears with them, just tell them exactly how I was feeling. But that was always that positive support system. And they're still here to this day doing the same thing. So I was blessed for that.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
So, yeah, I watched you in high school. My freshman year in high school. So, like, 17 is your senior year, right? My junior year. My last year. Yeah, dude. I remember watching him when I was in high school. Yeah, I know. It's crazy. It's crazy to think about. Dude, it's crazy to think about.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
How old are you? I'm 22. I'm 28.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
uh like i was there you can't see me right right there you see me you see me left corner left corner yeah yeah but dude i it's just it's crazy to see the bar before you even pick it up it's bending it's freaking this looks like it's gonna break this was dumb because i should listen to eddie uh he wanted me to you know warm up so nah
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
I was gonna say like, everybody like wants to follow you too. Like,
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
you obviously like I played against you for what two three years maybe you had two years and like you were that star player you know we got to worry about you everywhere you go and now you're you put us put you on our team and it's like hey hey two six out there we should be good I think it I think it elevates everybody else absolutely
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
It's cool.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
Obviously you have training camp, but like, it's kind of different. And this is in game. Like how your coach really is like, how's he calling the game? Like getting used to that. And, and kind of getting used to the guys you play with. But yeah, after, I mean, after the bye week.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
It's crazy.
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Saquon Barkley on Tush Push Ban, SaQUAD Nickname, & Playing For The Eagles | Exciting Mics Ep 2
It's the climb. I hope people understand.
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Cooper & Reed on Draft Prank Calls, Eagles WINNING Super Bowl, & More! | Exciting Mics Ep. 1
Oh, I said... Oh, I'm so embarrassed. Why? Why?
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Cooper & Reed on Draft Prank Calls, Eagles WINNING Super Bowl, & More! | Exciting Mics Ep. 1
7.30?
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Oh, I forgot.
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Cooper & Reed on Draft Prank Calls, Eagles WINNING Super Bowl, & More! | Exciting Mics Ep. 1
You got to.
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Ask us kind of whatever we want.
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Cooper & Reed on Draft Prank Calls, Eagles WINNING Super Bowl, & More! | Exciting Mics Ep. 1
Okay. What about you?
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Can we eat it on this couch?
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Smells good.
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Cooper & Reed on Draft Prank Calls, Eagles WINNING Super Bowl, & More! | Exciting Mics Ep. 1
Thank you. I'm not even talking to the mic. I'm sorry. Shout out Cooper Cheese. I'm over here mesmerized. Dude.
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Excuse My Grandma While We Dive Into Love and Matchmaking Ft. Aleeza Ben Shalom
Right.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
People actually need the Hamptons or someplace like it because it is a place. Wow, I can't wait to use that sound bite. Yeah.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
Well, now everybody knows the Hamptons. They're all on 27. I know, I know.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
But the ocean and the sky, Kimmy, are so beautiful.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
He knows from nothing.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
I'm going to say a funny story now. I have not been in, you know, we go to Montauk to eat seafood occasionally because we're out in the, my husband and I are out in the Hamptons for the summer.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
And this year I have another close friend and she said, we've never done Montauk for 4th of July. Let's go for the fireworks.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
So now we have four 80-year-olds going out to Montauk.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
And we go into an adorable little place on the road for dinner. My husband says- Surf Lodge. No, I'm kidding. No, no, no. I don't even know the name. There's probably a clam bar or- No, clam bar is in Neapog. No, this was actually in Montauk. All the way in Montauk. It was all the way in Montauk, in the town.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
And we had to park our car because we now have to wait for the fireworks to start.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
So we ate and then whatever. Okay. We now have our dinner, which was great. We go to the beach, close to the beach, because we couldn't naturally get on the beach with the car. And we see the fireworks. The fireworks were like four guys shooting up fireworks.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
I thought it was going to be like Fourth of July in New York, where you see a million different things from the Gruchis or whatever it's in the Hudson River. Forget that. Everything is fine. I said, you know, this was fun. We don't ever have to do this again. Now leaving Montauk the night of 4th of July. Well, it's 10 o'clock, whatever it is. So the night's starting for Montauk people.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
For young people, it's starting. For us, it was over already. It took us... First of all, they closed the roads. So you can only go out of Montauk on one way on 27. For those who've never been on Route 27, it's a two-lane highway that we're... millions of people want to go to the same place. Anyway, to make a long story short, we were in Montauk for about an hour and a half of the evening.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
It took us two hours to get out. Oh God. And millions of kids because, you know, everybody's crossing the street from the beach. Nobody's in a car. It was, so my husband turned to me and said, that's the last time you go to Montauk except for lunch. That's it.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
I would still go, I think.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
I know. I'm telling you to be very sorry.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
Okay, that was my Montauk.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
And you can't get out of it. Now we said we're going to spend the whole summer in the Hamptons in Montauk waiting to get out.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
Well, life is funny.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
He can find the humor in everything, which is wonderful. That's why people enjoy watching him.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
And also you become a commercial entity. Because then the more specific, you know, brands will jump on. I mean, we are, you are doing this for a business. This is not just an afternoon in the park. So he's got to appeal to an audience. Not for everybody, but for him.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
And for us. I mean, we're not in this just for.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
Exactly. We have to keep the lights on.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
I think also Kim, from my opinion on this is it depends where you are. If you're in a very lonely, desolate area, not necessarily Manhattan or middle of LA. Or if there's like, A few bars. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I think sometimes it's an outreach to meet more people. On a steady basis, I think I wouldn't pay for it unless I really found it productive and did meet somebody.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
But I'm sort of agreeing with Roy. I think it's better if you meet in person. But sometimes you're in a position where you really don't. Or some people are very lonely and they don't have the group of friends to have them meet. being introduced to. I don't think you have to be lonely to be on the apps.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
Okay. I don't know much about the apps, so you can answer.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
I think it's good for some people. Yeah. I think it serves a purpose, but not for— I definitely wouldn't judge somebody at all.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
Oh, let's do it. They'll ask you about your hair. Yeah, exactly.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
Yeah. I think it depends. I think it depends on the age of the guy or the girl, either way, and how successful they are. Sometimes they don't want to have a rivalry in a relationship. They want to be the upper hand, and they want to complement with a woman or a man who does different things but doesn't necessarily compete with them. I think it's so individual now.
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I really do because we're dating now from the time we're in our— early 20s or mid 20s to the time we're dead. So everybody has a different want and a desire and a need. So I think it depends on the person really. Yeah, that's a good point. I think when you're in your 20s, I think you want to sit across somebody who also probably has a job like you have.
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But you were enjoying it.
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I think as you age, it depends on the needs of the person.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
There's always, my aunt used to say there's a cover for every pot. Exactly.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
Well, you know I love New York, so there's very little that I don't like. But what I don't like recently or in the last five or six years is the amount of garbage piled up. So I would like to have more garbage pickups, more like Paris where every morning you see the streets washed and cleaned. I think quality of life matters to people, especially as you age in the city. And litter on the street.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
Homelessness, unfortunately, on the streets, it makes the city less attractive. And one of my least favorite and used to be my favorite area, you know that, is the theater area and Times Square that has gotten completely out of hand. That no one ever. You just like Broadway. I love Broadway.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
I would see everything and anything. But now I think twice because, you know, there is, especially as you age, you're worried about the crowds and people pushing. So I think there are things that we could improve on. It's all improvable. It could all be improved. It just takes leadership.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
Christmas time.
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This isn't like a Santa wish list.
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Absolutely. Macy's Day, Thanksgiving Day Parade, Since I Was a Little Good Child is one of the highlights.
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The rats.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
We keep trying to get rid of the rats. They keep saying they're poisoning the rats. I don't know where they're poisoning them.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
But I think a guy can do it and a woman can't.
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Don't hand him your room key.
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Oh, that's wild.
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Absolutely. I'm going to vote. So I'll be there from now on.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
That would be something.
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Please Excuse My Grandma’s Breakdown of Social Media Stereotypes (Ft. Walker Ward)
Your mind was somewhere else.
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They liked it. They enjoyed it. So they wanted to see if you basically could make a living doing this.
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No, but you look up to it.
Father Knows Something
149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
yet they can be sitting out of our view for years and years and years and we forget about them and someone else finds it and wants it, then all of a sudden we're like, nope, nope, that's mine. And I just think that's just a general funny thought about human behavior, how we all kind of do that with things.
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We've all been purging so much of our stuff lately and moving and cleaning up and whatever. Mm-hmm. And there's stuff we never even knew existed still, yet you see it and you're like, oh, I got to keep that. Nope, I'm keeping that. And then it's just going to, I just think the cycle's funny.
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My final thought is it's really interesting as you have a partner, you get more serious, they become part of your family and you become part of theirs. Mm-hmm. And in doing so, I know we always talk so much about, oh, you deal with your family of origin if there's some sort of issue going on.
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149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
At what point does that not necessarily apply when you feel, in this case, to step up and to defend your partner to their parent And I know that there's applicable situations, but it's just interesting in general where that line falls.
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149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
Because it's hard because you become enemy number one the second you do that. It's only in situations where you don't have the time to get on a united front. Because if you're able to step away, which would be the ideal world, step away, you and your partner, figure it out. Is this decision we want to make? Yes. Okay, we're going to go forward and do this as a united front.
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But if you do it, like if I step out and I go out and... or defend against the other family, then all of a sudden you're seen as the problem. It's not my child's not the problem. Oh, it's their partner now coming in and stirring everything up. And then it just becomes this.
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149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
So really, I think if he gets on board and he's down, that's one thing. If he's uninterested, says, no, I'm not going to change the dynamic of my family, then you have a choice to make about your relationship with him. And that's it.
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149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
Hi, Father Knows Something crew. Just want to say a big thank you for both podcasts. I listen every week on my way to work. I'm writing in today regarding an issue I have with my fiancée. A little background, we have been together for five years, engaged for two, and we have a daughter who is 15 months.
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149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
We decided a few months back to cancel our wedding and elope instead, and we would use the money we would spend on the wedding to move interstate. This would be about mid-2026, and in the meantime, we would move into my fiancé's grandfather's house to save some money.
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149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
We decided in September that we needed to kick this plan into place and talk to his grandfather regarding his offer for us to move in. His grandfather would move in with fiancé's dad, who is the grandfather's ex-son-in-law. They have a good relationship. This is where the problem comes in. My fiance's dad has just been diagnosed with lung cancer, so this has put a hold on all of this.
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149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
I can understand this is a really hard time for everyone, especially my fiance and his dad. My problem is I'm extremely unhappy with where we're living now, It's so far from work. I don't like our neighbors. I'm depressed coming home every day. I've expressed this to my fiance in the past, but since his dad diagnosis, I've just pushed my feelings aside. How do I handle all of this?
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149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
How do I support my partner and his dad when I am so unhappy and feel so stuck? Ideal outcome, either be happy with where we are now or be able to move and get our lives together as at the moment, I feel like we're on hold. Additional info, my fiance's grandfather's house is 15 minutes from work. We would be able to save heaps so we can move interstate soon.
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and the house would be just perfect for our daughter with a nice backyard for her to play around in. Also, my fiance's grandfather has started to have falls at home, so it would be safer for him to live with someone.
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149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
So I think just in the way this is written, we're just misconstruing a few things, not us, but just as you, the writer, just because I don't think grandfather owes you guys anything. Circumstances have obviously changed in a very serious way. And yes, it was a great offer. You know, the fact that you canceled the wedding, decide to elope and save the money. That's all still a thing.
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149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
You're still going to move in a couple of years. You're going to go interstate and that's all good. But all of that building up to the beginning of the story does not mean that just because it was offered once means it's owed to you.
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149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
And so I just want it, you know, it might be time to just take matters into your own hands.
Father Knows Something
149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
See if it works, right? But let's be sensitive to the fact of also what's going on. And I know you're aware of that, but more in the sense that it's like, right now it feels like, we have to get in grandfather's house no matter what. So he's got to go over and live with fiance's dad because he has to live with someone.
Father Knows Something
149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
So let's get him out so we can stay on our plan. Plans change. And we've talked about this on this show.
Father Knows Something
149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
Where plans change and this is life, we have to react. You're not being put in a world ending situation here. So maybe it's having a conversation like you guys were talking about But if that doesn't go well, it's... The grandfather's not in the wrong.
Father Knows Something
149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
The thing is too, like choose happiness, even if it costs you a little extra money, because you don't know if all this money you're saving, you don't know if you're ever going to get to use it. That's the scary part about life is for any of us, it could end right now. You don't know if you have tomorrow.
Father Knows Something
149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
It doesn't mean go buy a Lamborghini today, still be smart and live for the future a little bit, but still live in the now. Unless you're going to live in the Lamborghini. Sure, but don't suffer now to try and make sure your future is that much better.
Father Knows Something
149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
No, I think war is fun sometimes. I'm not saying you go start a war on this, but it is fun sometimes.
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149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
I just, I admire our writer for how nice of a person they are in the way they react to this.
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149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
And I guess one thing is to, yeah, on this one issue, I'm ready to go war with you. Let's go.
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149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
Bring out the tanks. But if you step back and just look at the overall picture, look at your relationship, look at the rest of your life with this relationship and this family, is it worth it? to do whatever you're considering, right?
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149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
So whether you're gonna bury it and just try to forget about it, is that gonna drive you crazy and it'll keep hurting for a very long time and ruining stuff with them? Or are you gonna let them know your feelings and see that? are you gonna go to war? Which doesn't seem like, you've already said that's not really your style.
Father Knows Something
149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
So I would just take a step back and look at what you would like going forward, kind of like in your ideal outcome and just really judge decisions based on that, because it's a slippery slope when you stop going to things and you start avoiding, you know, the game of telephone sucks. And so if you're gonna be clear, find your moment with your partner to do that.
Father Knows Something
149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
And then also, because you're saying it's like ringing these alarm bells with everything else, you're starting to look at the whole situation differently. Maybe keep that in mind and continue your interactions and see if anything else falls in that way, because
Father Knows Something
149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
I like making decisions off of patterns and not off of one just, unless it's really bad, but just one weird thing or one very blatant, rude thing like this. With the rest of the family, I'd be curious if you find a pattern to then make a decision based off that.
Father Knows Something
149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
Well, would you tell the sister, hey, I don't want to be anywhere around this guy. Well, she did, didn't she? And with the holidays approaching, I'm nervous. So are you planning on bringing him? If so, here's my plan.
Father Knows Something
149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
Well, I don't know why you're concerned at all about your sister and what she's going through because she hasn't given an ass about you.
Father Knows Something
149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
I think, I mean, yes, it's very difficult and it's hard to watch someone go through this, but you've already kind of made your decision and have your answer. So really it's the advice is just stick to it and don't fold on it. If he's there or if you show up and you've been blindsided and he's there, you can go. I mean, you know, you're not, you're in no way tied to them.
Father Knows Something
149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
You don't have to see them all the time. You don't have to go to certain events. You know, even your partner's cool with it. So if you're supported, then just stick to your guns and that's it.
Father Knows Something
149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
Well, because it does include Thanksgiving, technically. It begins the holiday season. And then we're going to run right into New Year's.
Father Knows Something
149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
Yeah, I have so many different things running through my head. The first of which is living situations work for a time generally, whether it's living with a parent, living with a friend, living with roommates. Mm-hmm. you'll get to a point where that expires. And it's just like, you need your own place or you and your partner need your own place. That's natural.
Father Knows Something
149: Father Knows: In-Laws.. Pt. 2
So yeah, I think we've hit that point, which is good because you can grow and hopefully you're able to save up enough to do that at this point. But even if not, definitely it's gonna be more healthy outside of that zone of control. Another thing that's interesting is how we all have things that are sentimental to us, no matter where on the scale that falls.
First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show
Greg Said What On Their Hike?
I appreciate the offer, but no, like truly Greg's a nice guy, but he's just not what I'm looking for.
First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show
Greg Said What On Their Hike?
Anna, I'm calling from Las Vegas.
First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show
Greg Said What On Their Hike?
I thought to myself, I bet I know what this is. And now I definitely know what this is.
First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show
Greg Said What On Their Hike?
I wanted a way to do something that I loved for the rest of my life.
First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show
Greg Said What On Their Hike?
I'm okay. Is this a joke? Why is a radio show calling me?
First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show
Greg Said What On Their Hike?
Yeah, it's got to be Greg, right?
First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show
Greg Said What On Their Hike?
Honestly, he's a lot. Like... I'll give him this. He was funny at first, but then, I don't know, it just felt like everything turned into a meme or some joke. He doesn't really, like, know when to stop and turn it off, you know what I mean? Yeah.
First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show
Greg Said What On Their Hike?
I get the sense, like, to an extent, that's who he is, and so, like, that's why... it felt like a lot. Like if it came off as nerves, like it would be one thing, you know what I mean? But because it was, it was just constant. And I did get the sense of his personality. It was a lot to take in. And don't get me wrong.
First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show
Greg Said What On Their Hike?
Like the hike was fun, but after the kiss, like he just tried to make it this whole comedy routine. And I am truly all for humor, but it just didn't feel genuine, you know, like because it felt like he was on.
First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show
Greg Said What On Their Hike?
Yeah, aspects of it were funny. It was, like, just kind of making cracks about everything, and, like, there was a crack about, like, you know, the view that we had was absolutely stunning, and he sort of, like, made a joke about, like, you know, if we fell and this was how our lives ended, essentially, like, at least we'd have a good view for it. And that was a lot.
First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show
Greg Said What On Their Hike?
And then it was just, there was a lot, a lot of talk about memes. Like, I can't really adequately express that.
First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show
Greg Said What On Their Hike?
Yeah. Kind of felt like he was obsessing over them, and I just don't think that's a match for me.
First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show
Greg Said What On Their Hike?
I think it was him, too, because he would kind of see something on the hype and... try to figure out what kind of meme it could make. Like we'd see like this stunning tree and it would be like, oh, well, what funny joke can I make with that? And, you know, it was just, it was a lot instead of just kind of enjoying what was around us. It was like he was trying to figure out
First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show
Greg Said What On Their Hike?
how he could, you know, get recognition somehow out of it. Content creator life. And then there was like this one point where we were trying to like take a left, but there are these two rocks that was sort of like blocking that path. And he just sort of made a joke about how like, oh, wouldn't it make just such a great meme about, you know, two rocks don't make a right and that kind of thing.
First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show
Greg Said What On Their Hike?
Yeah, and then he was just cracking up over it, and I just sort of was sitting there kind of giving pity laughs because, you know, what else are you supposed to do?
First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show
Greg Said What On Their Hike?
Greg, it's just like, you're a stand-up comedy show that never ends. And so it just, it gets to be a lot. Like, I don't know when you're being real or if you're just setting up for a punchline.
First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show
Greg Said What On Their Hike?
And I don't doubt that the meme page is great, but in real life, I don't need running commentary on everything around me 24-7. I want someone I can actually connect with, and when someone's just making commentary, it sort of feels like they're in their own world, but not really present with me.
First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show
Greg Said What On Their Hike?
No, I don't like boring guys. I don't want someone who's cracking jokes 24-7. Like, I ideally would like a happy medium. Somewhere in between there would be great. Half boring, half funny.
Giggly Squad
Giggling about lavender marriages, skincare inventions, and St. Anthony
Er war ein Loof.
Giggly Squad
Giggling about lavender marriages, skincare inventions, and St. Anthony
Also the chair is crazy, like they don't even let you lay down.
Giggly Squad
Giggling about lavender marriages, skincare inventions, and St. Anthony
My inner child just came out.
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Keke Keeps a Check (with Sofie Pavitt) | 37
In the early hours of December 4th, 2024, CEO Brian Thompson stepped out onto the streets of Midtown Manhattan.
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Keke Keeps a Check (with Sofie Pavitt) | 37
This assailant pulls out a weapon and starts firing at him.
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Keke Keeps a Check (with Sofie Pavitt) | 37
We're talking about the CEO of the biggest private health insurance corporation in the world. And the suspect.
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Keke Keeps a Check (with Sofie Pavitt) | 37
Became one of the most divisive figures in modern criminal history.
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Keke Keeps a Check (with Sofie Pavitt) | 37
I'm Jesse Weber, host of Luigi, produced by Law & Crime and Twist. This is more than a true crime investigation. We explore a uniquely American moment that could change the country forever.
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Keke Keeps a Check (with Sofie Pavitt) | 37
Listen to Law and Crime's Luigi exclusively on Wondery Plus. You can join Wondery Plus on the Wondery app, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts. In the early hours of December 4th, 2024, CEO Brian Thompson stepped out onto the streets of Midtown Manhattan.
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Keke Keeps a Check (with Sofie Pavitt) | 37
Became one of the most divisive figures in modern criminal history.
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Keke Keeps a Check (with Sofie Pavitt) | 37
Listen to Law and Crime's Luigi exclusively on Wondery Plus. You can join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts.
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Keke Keeps a Check (with Sofie Pavitt) | 37
When Luigi Mangione was arrested for allegedly shooting the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, he didn't just spark outrage, he ignited a cultural firestorm. Is the system working, or is it time for a reckoning? I'm Jesse Weber. Listen to Law & Crime's Luigi exclusively on Wondery+.
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Judy Blume Forever! | 54
In the early hours of December 4th, 2024, CEO Brian Thompson stepped out onto the streets of Midtown Manhattan.
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Judy Blume Forever! | 54
This assailant starts firing at him. And the suspect... He has been identified as Luigi Nicholas Mangione.
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Judy Blume Forever! | 54
...became one of the most divisive figures in modern criminal history.
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Judy Blume Forever! | 54
Listen to Law and Crime's Luigi exclusively on Wondery Plus. You can join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts. In the early hours of December 4th, 2024, CEO Brian Thompson stepped out onto the streets of Midtown Manhattan.
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Judy Blume Forever! | 54
This assailant starts firing at him. And the suspect. He has been identified as Luigi Nicholas Mangione.
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Judy Blume Forever! | 54
Became one of the most divisive figures in modern criminal history.
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Judy Blume Forever! | 54
Listen to Law and Crime's Luigi exclusively on Wondery Plus. You can join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts.
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Judy Blume Forever! | 54
In the early hours of December 4th, 2024, CEO Brian Thompson stepped out onto the streets of midtown Manhattan.
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Judy Blume Forever! | 54
We're talking about the CEO of the biggest private health insurance corporation in the world. And the suspect.
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Judy Blume Forever! | 54
Became one of the most divisive figures in modern criminal history.
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Judy Blume Forever! | 54
I'm Jesse Weber, host of Luigi, produced by Law & Crime and Twist. This is more than a true crime investigation. We explore a uniquely American moment that could change the country forever.
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Judy Blume Forever! | 54
Listen to Law and Crime's Luigi exclusively on Wondery Plus. You can join Wondery Plus on the Wondery app, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts.
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Gladiator II Did Not Bring Its Best | 28
They've got guns. It's like Candyman. We like cover our mics.
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Gladiator II Did Not Bring Its Best | 28
This assailant starts firing at him. And the suspect. He has been identified as Luigi Nicholas Mangione.
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Gladiator II Did Not Bring Its Best | 28
This assailant pulls out a weapon and starts firing at him.
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Gladiator II Did Not Bring Its Best | 28
He has been identified as Luigi Nicholas Mangione.
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Gladiator II Did Not Bring Its Best | 28
I was targeted, premeditated, and meant to sow terror.
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Famously Pro Divorce (with Haley Mlotek) | 45
This assailant pulls out a weapon and starts firing at him.
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Tik Tok, Traitors and Scary Island | 36
This assailant starts firing at him. And the suspect. He has been identified as Luigi Nicholas Mangione.
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Tik Tok, Traitors and Scary Island | 36
This assailant pulls out a weapon and starts firing at him.
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Tik Tok, Traitors and Scary Island | 36
He has been identified as Luigi Nicholas Mangione.
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Tik Tok, Traitors and Scary Island | 36
This assailant starts firing at him. And the suspect. He has been identified as Luigi Nicholas Mangione.
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Secret Lies of Mormon Wives (with Joel Kim Booster) | 53
And some of those bitches might be in the room right now.
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Secret Lies of Mormon Wives (with Joel Kim Booster) | 53
This assailant starts firing at him. And the suspect. He has been identified as Luigi Nicholas Mangione.
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Secret Lies of Mormon Wives (with Joel Kim Booster) | 53
He's awoken the people to a true issue.
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Secret Lies of Mormon Wives (with Joel Kim Booster) | 53
It's on SoundCloud right now, actually.
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Secret Lies of Mormon Wives (with Joel Kim Booster) | 53
This assailant starts firing at him. And the suspect. He has been identified as Luigi Nicholas Mangione.
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Secret Lies of Mormon Wives (with Joel Kim Booster) | 53
He's awoken the people to a true issue.
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Secret Lies of Mormon Wives (with Joel Kim Booster) | 53
This assailant pulls out a weapon and starts firing at him.
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Secret Lies of Mormon Wives (with Joel Kim Booster) | 53
He has been identified as Luigi Nicholas Mangione.
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Secret Lies of Mormon Wives (with Joel Kim Booster) | 53
I was targeted, premeditated, and meant to sow terror.
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Secret Lies of Mormon Wives (with Joel Kim Booster) | 53
He's awoken the people to a true issue.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
Every big moment starts with a big dream. But what happens when that big dream turns out to be a big flop? From Wondery and At Will Media, I'm Misha Brown, and this is The Big Flop. Every week, comedians join me to chronicle the biggest flubs, fails, and blunders of all time, like Quibi.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
and the 2019 movie adaptation of Cats.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
Like, if I'm watching the dancing and I'm noticing the feet aren't touching the ground, there's something wrong with the movie.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
Find out what happens when massive hype turns into major fiasco. Enjoy The Big Flop on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to The Big Flop early and ad-free on Wondery+. Get started with your free trial at wondery.com slash plus.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
There's a lot. Theater Gay is stay winning, as Peyton said.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
Sometimes. One beautiful moment.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
Okay, I've thought about this a lot. I think I'm a lover sun, hater moon, lover rising. So I think there's a little bit more lover in my chart than hater. But internally, inside, it's all hater all the time. But I think I present as lover. And I think deep down, there's love in there.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
But you have to go really far inside. It's like a sandwich. Lover outside, hater in the middle, lover deep down.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
Okay, now I hate that, so maybe I'm a hater.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
Well, I think I'm maybe the number one lover in the world.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
Club Elphaba hat. Club Elphaba and Galinda.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
So I assume we have three hours.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
One question. Okay. I guess the short version is I remember when I was 10 years old, I heard Idina Menzel on Z100, a commercial for it on Z100 because that's what I used to listen to every morning before fourth grade or whatever. And I was like, well, I have to see this musical. I think this is going to change my life. Immediately asked my parents.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
In 2004, we're seeing Wicked. And that's exactly what we did. I did get made fun of a lot. So it was me and like five of my best girlies.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
Yeah, no boys wanted to come with me other than my godbrother who had to. So it was me and like four girls from my, I guess it was fifth grade. I don't remember what grade. Like four girls from my class and my godbrother and my sister went to see Wicked for my 11th birthday. And honey, I was changed for good.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
One works in TV. One works in PR. Three others I've lost contact with.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
And they'll come out. They'll come out. Then I went to theater camp because I was so obsessed with it. Yes. became like a literal like musical theater gay boy. And just like, it was really like the piece of culture that was like, oh, well I'm hooked. And the stage play isn't perfect. You know, no shade. There are some notes to be had, but it kind of slaps. You have to admit that it slaps.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
Yeah, there's no way that I'd be sitting here with you all if like I did not see Wicked at 11 and was like, oh, I'm going to listen to this and sing this in the car every day. God bless my mother. The amount of time she heard me go for the, like the amount of time she had to sit through that. You're the singer here. I listen to the podcast.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
Thank you. Yeah. It's a lot of time. It's really baked into the DNA of my cultural self in a real way.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
It's crazy. It had to take 20 years. Thank God that so many people couldn't pull it off.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
Well, I mean, it really the timing is just really insane and in a part really lucky that like the movie took so long to be made. And then it just so happened that like I'm at Vanity Fair and I'm the one who's like, I love all my colleagues and they're all so brilliant and so great. I am the musical. I would say I'm sort of musical theaters. I've planted my flag in that.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
And anybody can cover it if they want, 100%. I won't be mad. But I said, this is for me. This is my thing. And so I started writing about, like, when they got cast, Ariana and Cynthia.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
It was, like, a year ago. Like, even, like, a year and a half ago, like, when they got cast and then when they decided it was going to be two movies or they announced it was going to be two movies.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
So I was doing like all of this like little work leading up to it. And then bam, for the April issue of this year, they were like, let's just do a first look on Wicked. Like, Chris, like you're the guy who writes about Wicked. Like, here you go. And so I talked to Ariana and Cynthia for like 30 minutes over Zoom and like did that first story, which was great.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
And I talked to Mark Platt and John M. Chu and a bunch of people. And then when it turned out that it was time for the cover, I was like, well, I'm just going to sort of walk through that door. And we had a great enough vibe, me, Ariana and Cynthia specifically, that when it was announced that they were going to be our cover, I think they were like, we would like Chris to write it. Yeah.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
So, and I'm gonna step up to the plate when that happens.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
We were queening, we were literally queening out and we continued to queen out for like basically the whole summer, which was really fun. But really I have to say it's timing and love of the game. You just gotta start, you gotta write these pieces. You think they're not gonna get anywhere. You know, I wrote a piece being like, they should switch parts for the second movie. They don't do that.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
They were both talented enough that they could, and I would be so gagged. But, like, you do stuff like that, and then people notice and like it. And then when you get the chance to talk to them, you just queen out.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
Mood boards, vision boards, a lot of that too.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
Like I was, you know, in the summer, like the article came out in September. And, you know, since then, the press store has really taken off. So I'll definitely take, you know, it's not just the story, I think. Well, if you're not first, you're last. Well, exactly. And I was like, we're going to be first.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
But something that I found from like spending so much time with them, like over the summer, was they're really different. They're really different women and they overlap in some very specific ways. They love fashion, their incredible vocal ability and just talent as actors, definitely.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
But their relationship is really sort of built on the differences between them and they learn a lot from each other. in a way, like I think Ariana learned how to be sort of strong and like no nonsense and like be like, no, this is what I want. This is what I came here to do. And they're not that far apart in age, but I think looked up to Cynthia a little bit in that way.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
And Cynthia, I think learned to like not take things as seriously and it'd be a little fine and a little goofy and like, and enjoy the moment and go on this wild ride that I think Ariana's a little bit more accustomed to coming from the pop star background. So I really wanted to capture them both as individuals and show that they're very stark differences when combined.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
They really do connect and learn from each other and the sum is greater than its parts.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
I was like, really? It's more complicated than you think.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
It's so funny, because I was like, when we first started talking, I was like, wow, I'm asking questions, and Ariana's crying. I'm like, wow, this is so special. I was like, She cries a lot.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
It's still special, but I was like, okay, it might not be because I'm so amazing.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
Oh my God, I wish, Dr. Orn, I wish.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
I mean, it's like the expectations. And not to go back to like, I've been waiting for this since I was 10 years old. So there's a lot of high expectations. And like, I, again, not to brag, but like, I know this thing like the back of my hand. Like I could sing every song, every note, every inflection. We could play Elphaba Roulette right now.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
I do a really good job of all the girls who've sung this show before. And like, I really do think, and I think it's a testament to like John M. Chu, who is like a musical genius. He's like a Lin-Manuel Miranda style of like cinema, movie musicals.
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Martha's Serving Crafts and C*nt (with Chris Murphy) | 27
I think he's, like, literally a genius in his ability to adapt to stage production and to create musical numbers on screen that don't feel like music videos or, like, are cut in some weird way or don't really make sense or are more style than substance.
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Like, he really, like, blows up the world and, like, makes it bigger and more expansive and, like, the scope of it and the scale of it is crazy and yet gets these really grounded, amazing performances from both Cynthia and Ariana that, like, really are, like, very, very paying homage to Kristen and Idina and what came before, but are completely their own.
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It's a hard thing to do to step into these characters that have been played by so many women and to make it feel personal, but also not make it feel weird in a real way. The first time I saw it, I was at Universal. It was end of the summer. I was alone.
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There was just a man watching me watch it in a big theater to make sure that I wasn't recording any of it, which I'm so mad because I wish that I had it on my phone. But it wasn't even done yet. Most of the CGI was drawings. Sometimes Dr. Dillman would be a goat, and then sometimes it would be sketches.
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So I was like, oh, it's not done yet, and if he sticks the landing, this could be a sensational adaptation of this Broadway play. And then I saw it a month later, and I was like, oh, he fucking did it. He did it. They did it. So, yeah, I guess, my God, yeah, maybe I am a lover, because I just think... No, you're talking like a lesbian lover.
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I moved in with Wicked. But it really does live up to the hype. In the summer, we fell in love. Like, come on. It's only been a couple months, but we're in love. But, yeah, I do think there will be haters, and people will be like...
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see the color of this one scene or like I couldn't hear this one thing and like that's fine that's all well and good I think when you take it all in and you think about the expectations what it needed to deliver and what the show is which again like you could be like I actually don't like the show I actually don't think this is a compelling arc you'd be crazy but I think it's sort of like the platonic ideal of what a wicked movie could be
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Oh my gosh. I mean, Jonathan Bailey giving bi-curious Fiyero. He has chemistry with every single person on the screen. There is not a person at Shiz University that he does not... you know, have some sort of sexual energy for in a very good way.
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It's actually crazy that it wasn't. And like, well, you'll see, well, I guess he was busy being on the VF Hollywood cover. So somebody knew that he might be the sexiest man alive.
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But he's amazing. I mean, it really across the board, everyone's great. Jeff Goldblum is literally like, it feels like most of his lines are improvised. That's how like wacky he is as the wizard. Michelle Yeoh, just like actual like, Like, damn. Like, it should be damn Michelle Yeoh. But, like, she's, like, so, like, grand. It's, like, so incredible.
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Damn. Damn. Like, mother, like, we know that, like, we're in another realm. And then, like, Bo and Yang, like, stealing every scene he's in with these, like, incredible one-liners that, like, I won't spoil, but are just. It's across the board, like.
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Triumph of musical theater movie musicals, which we need, like. Yeah. Now more than ever, we need it. We need it. It's been a long time. Some of us remember West Side. West Side was great. Not enough people saw it. We need this. We need this.
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You don't want it. Off camera, we'll get into it.
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Kim flew me over. Yeah, she flew me over. I mean, honestly, I should have asked. You're part of the whole experience now. You know what? That is really nice. But that is one part of the experience that I was not actually involved in. And I can understand why they did it as Kim Kardashian is Kim Kardashian. I'm sure all of, you know, the 79 Kardashian kids, you know, all want to see it.
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And like also I think Kim sort of gets whatever she wants. If she wants to wear a dead woman's dress, she can wear that. She can wear – No, it's true. She took the dress off the body.
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I'm surprised she's in the movie if she wanted to be in the movie. And so I can understand the frustration from the public being like, that private screening. It's tough to see someone who has the world get even more of the world, too.
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But I think it was honestly, genuinely out of the goodness of everyone involves Universal's heart, Ariana and Cynthia, that there are a bunch of kids here who want to see the movie and get dressed up and have a really nice experience with their family. And they provided that. I think the optics were like, they are what they are.
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I said I'm on the Gallup Rick Road. Okay.
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Okay. I haven't seen Gladiator 2 yet.
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Well, Obviously it's like a little forced, but like, I don't think that's like necessarily a bad thing. Like, oh wow, we can only have one good thing one time in our lives. Like, why shouldn't we try to redo that? It worked. It was so great. Everybody won in a way from the Barbenheimer of it all. I'm not mad that they're like trying to do it again with Glickid or Glidickid or Wickedadee.
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The gays, the real gays are calling it Glidickid.
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Yeah. And I think the one thing that really worked for Barbenheimer's at both movies had lots of fans were very good. And like, you know, and one went on to win best picture. Hopefully I haven't seen gladiator two yet. I've heard. Yeah. good, not great things. So I don't know if it's going to end up having, like, the impact that, like, Barbenheimer did just because of that. Yeah.
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But, like, people are like, oh, it's like lightning can only strike once. Like, we had Barbenheimer. We should never do it again. It's like, I would want a Barbenheimer every year. Give me one every year.
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Exactly. So I'm like, if this is what it's giving, then let's lean in. Like, it's something for everybody. Let's go. Get me to the multiplex.
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Okay, I guess for the time being, let me start with Instagram. Let's start there. You can find me on Instagram at Chris Triss. And then Blue Sky, I guess, at Chris Triss too. And even Twitter for now. And also you can read my stuff at Vanity Fair. In the magazine and out of the magazine.
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Oh, honey, I'm a bad witch. Okay, good.
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I said, moon, the moon. The moon is there. Thank you so much, Chris. Thank you.
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This assailant starts firing at him. And the suspect. He has been identified as Luigi Nicholas Mangione.
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He's awoken the people to a true issue.
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This assailant pulls out a weapon and starts firing at him.
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He has been identified as Luigi Nicholas Mangione.
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I was targeted, premeditated, and meant to sow terror.
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He's awoken the people to a true issue. Finally, maybe this would lead rich and powerful people to acknowledge the barbaric nature of our health care system.
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It's kind of like when you give yourself your own nickname and you try to, like, get other people to do it.
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In the early hours of December 4th, 2024, CEO Brian Thompson stepped out onto the streets of Midtown Manhattan.
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We're talking about the CEO of the biggest private health insurance corporation in the world. And the suspect. He has been identified as Luigi Nicholas Mangione. Became one of the most divisive figures in modern criminal history. I was targeted, premeditated, and meant to sow terror. I'm Jesse Weber, host of Luigi, produced by Law & Crime and Twist. This is more than a true crime investigation.
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We explore a uniquely American moment that could change the country forever.
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Listen to Law and Crime's Luigi exclusively on Wondery Plus. You can join Wondery Plus on the Wondery app, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts.
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When Luigi Mangione was arrested for allegedly shooting the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, he didn't just spark outrage, he ignited a cultural firestorm. Is the system working, or is it time for a reckoning? I'm Jesse Weber. Listen to Law & Crime's Luigi exclusively on Wondery Plus.
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This assailant pulls out a weapon and starts firing at him.
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I was targeted, premeditated, and meant to sow terror.
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Finally, maybe this would lead rich and powerful people to acknowledge the barbaric nature of our health care system.
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You can join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts.
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Yes. I saw a meme that said, Sutton to Dorit. And it was that meme.
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queen. So funny. So she was the payday advance like teller, bank teller. I don't know. But she was so funny. And so when she's laughing at the credit score, I was like, however, let me say this. When she laughed at the credit score in my theater, silent. No one laughed at all. I was like, so there's some learnings that need to be done.
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And then when she comes back at the end too, they're like, I just don't like her attitude. Listen, if you've ever hated a bitch for no reason, this is a movie for you. What else? I thought that SZA's boyfriend in this was hot. Of course.
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But at the same time, you didn't.
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Whenever she's like, you want to marry me? So bad. I was like, oh, that's you and me.
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Were you grinding at least? I am from Tulsa, Oklahoma. No, there was no pre-ranking experience. But what I do want to talk about is, oh my gosh, what's his name? Lil Rel. The EMT? No, not the EMT. Oh, the sneaker.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. When they're trying to sell him some Jordans that they found on an electric pole, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Kiki says something like, oh, they were my uncles, Cornelius, who died in the water. And then Lil Rel starts sobbing, like, oh, my people, they've all had bad experiences with water, slavery, you know. And then she's like, okay, you can have them for a discount.
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This is only for football or for, does Philly have a, oh, the 76ers. Duh.
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Yeah, I was kind of like, get my sister's third car back.
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Makeup, done the entire movie. I'm like, you just had blood all over your body. It's like nothing is budged. And that's correct, actually.
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Okay, I want to talk about fun lines because there was one line at the very end that I was like, I have to write this on. This is so funny. This is so us. When they have the hot Cheeto martini and Kiki was like, ghetto, but has a runway quality about it. That's an Andre Leon Talley quote. Wait, is it?
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No, I was only for football or for basketball, too. And I remember the Philadelphia 76ers made famous from uncut gyms.
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But one of my favorite lines besides- Wait, I am so the Kiki and you're so the SZA.
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Wait, I do want to say church's representation, church's chicken. I have actually not ventured that way. Okay, yep. That's the biracial coming out, I fear. My mom loves church's chicken. Really? Like to a degree that it's like, I would be like, not church's. Please, Popeye's. Please. God. Yeah, there's like one church's I also do that.
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I love the NBA. Are you kidding? Stuff happens to me that doesn't happen anywhere else in the world. Kevin Durant calling himself a service worker.
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Also, this is an acting review. Are you in? Are you out? Listen, I think she's an actress. I think she really is. Because she acted like she painted on those freckles every day for years. She acted like she's not taking sides in Kendrick Drake. And she acted very well in this movie.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes. I'm like, wait, she's like funny. Yeah. Especially as like a first time actor. I think so too. Love her. Well, on camera, first time actor.
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Okay, one thing about me. I want a sequel. I want 50. I want these movies to happen forever. Different cities.
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I want different cities, different apartments. I want us in it. Different sneakers. I want it all. Different payday loan place.
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Truly, yes. My skin is like acting out, I think. Like she's throwing a tantrum because she said, wait, where have we been? It's fine, where have we been? Okay, I have a question for you.
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Are you a lover or a hater? How do you identify?
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Are you a lover or hater of pimple patches? Hater. Extravagant shelfies? Love. Lover. Skincare on planes. Hate. Oil cleansers. Hate. And thank you for saying it. And thank you for saying it. Because people think I'm crazy. Hunter just got her look in with my community of Gen Z-ers. She will put on a pimple patch and act like she's 19.
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But I love that you said that because I've thought this for years, like going to you, it's like some facials are like a tutoring session, right? Like triage, how do I like get my skin in a condition that I want? And others are more like luxury experiences, like get the hand massage, all this stuff. And I think there's room for both. Totally.
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You have to be a genuine learner.
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Yes, like you have to like kind of suss out the truth. Yeah. Okay, but I do want to know, what do you think are the dangers of like the skincare misinformation that happens on the internet a lot where like everyone is an esthetician? Ugh. So they say, everyone knows what you should be using. Everyone knows, like, I don't know.
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It's like crazy what people are, the advice that they give you and what they're certain you need, you can't live without.
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I also feel like people are, like, taking advice without knowing what their skin is actually like. Yes.
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Like, why are you taking advice from someone who has dry skin when your skin is super oily?
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I'm not taking advice from a man.
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You heard it here first. Get that. Close in on that. Okay, I want to talk about your product line. Yes. Because you years ago introduced me to mandelic acid and now you have your own and I use it. Maybe I use it way too much, honestly. Like it's so like sensory. It's like so smooth and just goes on so easy. And it's like the thing I don't have to think about doing every single day.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes. Oh, my God. That chain was, like, bigger than a cell phone.
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Okay, I have to say yes, thank you for Sophie Pappet face because it is amazing. Shout out to your cleanser, the green cleanser, the clean, clean, the clean, clean cleanser, which I use every shower I've ever taken. It is a perfect shower cleanser. God bless. I love it. Okay, tell me, what is the number one tip that you give your clients in the studio?
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Well, I didn't see you because you disappeared on the couch. I didn't know where you were. Oh my God. Oh my God. You see how I did that? You see how I brought us back?
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great this is my last question what is worth the investment because i feel like people are always like oh you can get botox for like 25 you can get this for 25 and it's like but shouldn't i want it to cost a little bit more if someone's putting a needle into my face like what do you think is like this is what you should spend your money on mate groupon botox is never a good idea
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Well, let me say this. I had a hangover on Saturday that was like biblical. Like it was so bad. Remy just sat down next to me and went to sleep. I saw that photo. It was that bad. But perfect opportunity to watch most of season one and all of season two of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Ever heard of it? Don't act like here she go when I see you trying to engagement bait with Roni.
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And I know what I do because Sophie was my plug. I have a Saluma and I truly sit, do it every morning. Every other morning for 30 minutes, I sit under this thing.
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Oh, this is so, can I say cunt? This is so cunt, oh my God. Like, no, and I'm hungry.
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And I am Didi of Dexter. That is us. That is you as hell.
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Sophie Pavet Face, thank you so much. And a little snack too. Every other guest has flopped compared to this. No offense. And Sophie, where can people follow you and keep up with you?
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And it's working. Anyway, I'm going to bring up a few little things. Okay. They had a game night. Like a new girl was invited, like a new like kind of like friend of Brandy. I can't remember Brandy's last name. Whatever. This girl's on crutches. These two sisters, Kim and Kyle Richards, sister of Kathy Hilton. Oh, yes. Yeah.
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Finally, maybe this would lead rich and powerful people to acknowledge the barbaric nature of our health care system.
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I've got to bring this down a little bit.
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Did you get a text from a parent before being like, don't watch the inauguration? We're going to stick it to Trump. Nope, not even a little bit. I did. I was like, sorry, why would I do that? I have Beverly Hills to watch. Why would I watch the inauguration? I'm young. Yes. Wait, that's which parent? Your mom or your dad? My dad, of course. Definitely chain text, like 50 typos. It was crazy.
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It was funny. Okay. The inauguration. What do you need to know? It was moved indoors because of the weather because it was so cold, which I'm kind of obsessed with that detail. Like that the inauguration was in. It just sounds so like junky, so raggedy. Like the White House is really a raggedy place.
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Okay, I have to talk about Melania Trump's hat. Yeah. Did you see it? Don't take my joke. That Michael Jackson ass hat. That hat said, the thing about my baby, it don't matter if she's black or white. But it's like fascist or cruel, like in this remix of hers.
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I don't care about that. Okay, circle back. Okay, but there is something political that I am obsessed with. I mean, I talked about it at brunch last weekend. Like, this is how, also the friend who's a political reporter, so it made sense. Can I introduce you to the feud between Jill Biden and Nancy Pelosi?
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White criminal on white criminal crime. It is something that is like... Okay, let me take you back. So Nancy Pelosi obviously urged Joe Biden both publicly and privately to step down and put a lot of pressure on him. And then Jill Biden did an interview with the Washington Post, very softball interview. Nothing really of note was said except for that she said that...
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They hit her crutches because they hated her so much and they get into it. And like Kim obviously like has like a really bad problem with alcohol and drugs, which her sister completely refuses to help her with in any way except for blaming her for and then making herself out to be the victim of this. We'll get to that. Later, on a later episode, perhaps. Don't get me started on that.
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She and Nancy, like the Bidens and the Pelosi's have been friends for 50 years and that they're like never going to repair basically. Like friendship, they fell out hard over this, over Nancy Pelosi saying Joe Biden should not be president.
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Which the people said themselves, but.
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Okay, now get ready. So then in response to that interview, Nancy Pelosi's daughter, Alexandra, who has me blocked on Twitter. For what? Girl, who knows? Probably many a thing. Yeah. Yeah. Alexander tells Politico, quote, if I was Lady McBiden, I put on my big girl pants, play the long game and think about my husband's legacy.
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There aren't that many people left in America who have something nice to say about Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi is one of them. I want to bring a few things. Lady McBiden, first of all. Big girl pants. Play the long game. There aren't that many people in America who have something nice to say about Joe Biden. That is true. This is out of a confessional on Housewives.
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No, this is like Ramona talking about Luann. Like, this is so ugly and crazy to say, however true. Then the political thing goes more into how like Nancy Pelosi, this is like, we're so, everyone in government is so old. Nancy Pelosi fell and she was like nervous that she shouldn't get the White House to help because then Joe Biden, mad, would not send her a plane.
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That's how deep this feud goes when you're 80 something years old. So then – It's like 50 years of friendship. These motherfuckers are knocking on death's door, by God. But wait. Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi have actually been very close in, like, government for a long time. He would borrow her car even when he was in, like, on the West Coast. Yeah.
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But then part of this confusion from the Biden family, apparently, according to Politico, is that they're like, what do you mean 50-year friendship? We don't know Jill. Yeah. That's crazy. She said, you can't even get in. We don't know her. Who's that? The man is our friend. We don't know you. I'm like, no, it really goes over. It's just I love it. I'm sorry. I can't.
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And it's like funny because it's like two people who stubborn as hell can't tell them anything.
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But then this one couple on that show broke into some kind of state dinner. And it, like, actually was a big, like, national security risk. And it got canceled. Sure, sure. So just Our Government. Yeah, yeah.
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Anyway, I, yeah, I'm just like, oof, Jill Biden getting her lashings. I love it.
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I don't know. I don't know. I hope so, though. This is, like, this is really sending me to another dimension. Like, this is so Carol Bethany. This is Aviva Carol. One day that'll make sense to me. We're losing recipes.
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But we're going to open the schools for you, baby. We're going to keep them around for one more year to open them for you.
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Okay, this is about to be a different show.
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And something about, speaking of football, Eagles winning, do you see the Chiefs? I think Travis Kelsey is having a glow down in this relationship. He's dressing worse than ever.
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Witch, Kyle Richards. And they hide her crutches. And then she's like, well, at least I'm not going to the bathroom doing crystal meth every 30 seconds. And these women in concert, they both jump up pointing their finger at her. And she's like, you guys are like evil. And they're like, you're a slut pig. It was outrageous. Slut pig is crazy.
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Let's unpack that. And listen, do not forget under any circumstances. Do not forget to put on your mandelic acid tonight.
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Why don't you take a look at me? I did. Why don't you take a look at me?
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People are getting mad at me for saying it, but like Beverly Hills was not as good as Roni. Like season one of Beverly Hills was like very, very, very boring. Season two, it kind of perks up a little bit. Once Brandy, I think Glanville. Once Brandy comes in the mix, she kind of stirs the pot a little bit. And thank God. Because it's like, it's a cast of, what did I say?
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It's a cast of Avivas and one Sonia. A cast of people obsessed with how they come across and one tragic figure. Where are you on Runny right now? They just got back from Morocco. Oh, my God. I love it. The Morocco trip is so underrated. Morocco is crazy.
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Luann is at dinner being like come to dinner now and Ramona and Sonia fully not just fully ignoring her and then we have Kelly talking to Alex being like just calm down just calm down and Alex is like stop yelling at my face and then Luann iconic is like what a witch go back to the cupboard you climbed out of okay so it seems like we're gonna have to do a part two of the
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You can only see a floating head. It's like a Harry Potter. I take these sunglasses off too.
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We are getting so off track because what are we talking about this week? We're talking about Kiki Palmer's new movie with SZA, One of Them Days. And we're also talking about the political feud that I cannot stop thinking about slash the inauguration.
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And then later, I'm so happy that I have a zit today because we're joined by New York City's acne whisperer herself, Sophie Pavitt, to talk about skincare tricks and skincare skills.
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And I really was like, ooh, I'm feeling good today. I don't know if you know, but I have a cover story out now. I saw it in your chest. And I said, ooh, I'll dress up a little bit today. Simply sinking into the couch. Simply. I look like Zach Braff in Garden State. The funniest thing is, like, if it was a short skirt or, like, sleeveless, like, maybe.
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Okay, well, I tried to not go to Alabama Draft House because I have a negative time every time.
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The man that greets, what's his name? He's the nicest man ever. I've only seen one man outside of it, and it was Jack Antonoff. That was several years ago with a girl.
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pretty chill well I did get there 30 minutes early and I ate an entire bag of medium popcorn and you know I can't have too much popcorn because it gets stuck in my teeth and gives me a belly ache so it was like me and then this one woman comes in and she sits right next to me okay and it's like that's what the ticket she bought and she's like on the phone with her son being like Jalen Jalen you know you don't have school tomorrow right
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It was so funny. She's like, where's grandma? I tried to call her. She didn't answer. How did her phone get on silent? Like, so me, me, me, me. Like, you know how someone over age of 75 starts getting on their phone and it's like, why are you on red note with a silent phone and getting texts from Kamala Harris? Like, what's going on?
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So that was really funny. And then she was like, I'm seeing this movie. No one's going to interrupt my me time. She looked at me. She's like, what's the name of this movie? I said, One of Them Days. She said, thank you.
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I was like, oh, that's me, me, me, me, me. The way that she turned her phone off when the lights went down. I said, oh, sister. Full off, not even silence. She said literally verbatim, no one's interrupting my me time. I loved her. Loved every bit of it.
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No, it would look even worse. At least it's like this. At least I'm, like, at least I look completely, like, just a head on top of a chair. If you had to put on a little sweater. She put a little pillow behind her back. Oh, yeah. Just to try to do a little something. Ooh, girl. I couldn't. I'd take my sunglasses off. It's like Stevie Wonder in conversation with himself. God.
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I wish something that dramatic happened. It was like me and my sister. And then there were like some white gays who were talking about like, soft canceling their other friend from like going to the inauguration. I was like, I don't want to, I don't want to see that.
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I thought it was really fun. I really liked, I mean, I love Katie Palmer in everything. Like can do anything, natural performer, charisma times a million trillion. I was really like, there are so many like LA things that I was kind of like, maybe I'm not getting every joke, which I felt kind of like out of the loop on, but I had a, listen,
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If you've ever hated to pay rent, if you've ever been annoyed by a woo-woo bitch, this is a movie for you.
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And I wasn't going to take it there, but, like, you know, the girl who has, like, the reddest hair in the world, that's a type. That is a type. No, when a black girl dyes her hair red, know that she's serious. And I don't mean, like, red, like, Zendaya as MJ.
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I mean, like, red as a Loewe tomato. She is serious. And you know our good sister, Evan Nicole Brown.
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A woman who's never seen a deadline that she has not missed. Like, that's who she was playing. And I said, listen, I believe it. When she said that Lana's coming before, sometime in the fall, it comes December 31st, damn near. Yeah.
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Yes, they genuinely seem like really good friends.
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And their whole chemistry, this whole press tour has been so funny.
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The only episode of Hot Ones I've ever enjoyed. Say it. Say that. They were so funny with Issa. They made such a choose between Rihanna.
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Justin Bieber and... Who's the third person?
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Yeah. And he says, oh, like, ate a wing so she wouldn't have to answer. And he's just like, just say Bieber. Yeah. And if that's not us. Not who I put at the bottom. Yeah.
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That was one of my critiques. I wanted more of Cat Williams. Like, he was so, like, man who just waits outside of a strip mall is such a type of man.
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Let me say that. The rotating sunglasses. Every single time he had different pairs of sunglasses on. So he's in this movie. He waits outside of a cash advance. Yeah.
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Yeah. Payday loans. And he's like trying to get my sisters out of the gutter. He's like, don't do it. These are predatory loans. Like a thousand percent APR. Like it was just so crazy. He was so funny, but I wanted more from him. Yeah. That was a good line. Yes, yes. Janelle James as the nurse. And, you know, we talked about mean nurses. We've not talked about nurses who are so incompetent.
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And I'm talking, of course, about the time I'd get blood drawn and my nurse took a smoke break. In the middle of taking blood out of my body, she took a smoke break.
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This assailant pulls out a weapon and starts firing at him.
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He has been identified as Luigi Nicholas Mangione.
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I was targeted, premeditated, and meant to sow terror.
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Finally, maybe this would lead rich and powerful people to acknowledge the barbaric nature of our health care system.
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This assailant starts firing at him. And the suspect. He has been identified as Luigi Nicholas Mangione.
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This assailant starts firing at him. And the suspect. He has been identified as Luigi Nicholas Mangione.
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Yeah, I remember you sent me a voice note recently where you're just kind of like, you're the biggest hater.
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Thank you. The crazy part was like me being like when I found them, but truly I didn't think it was going to be that bad. Like I didn't think anything would happen.
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Yeah, I was. I feel like that was kind of the big thing when this started getting a lot of awards buzz was like, yeah, that was kind of the thing everyone knew before she was even nominated. Kind of like, if this happens, it'll be historic for this reason.
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Well, because I am crazy, first of all. I think, okay, I feel like this is something that no one really talks about. Everyone overlooks. But if you're someone who is a journalist or has written about celebrities and you see a lot of tweets that someone has still up, you're going to look for certain keywords at a point.
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I feel like I personally am always curious where a celebrity or someone famous or who's in the spotlight, kind of where they fall off. politically based on things they've said. And I did see a tweet where she used the word Islamist. And to me that, you know, gets my sensors up. So I was like, oh, she tweeted this, like, perhaps there's more.
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Again, didn't think there was going to be anything like what I saw. But it was really me just being curious. Like, I feel like this happens with so many people.
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First of all, the first one I saw, I was like, oh, that's pretty bad. And then I kept going through and I was like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Like, how is this so bad? Like, it keeps getting worse. I was like shaking. I was so shocked by it. And I was abroad. Like, I was in Southeast Asia at the time. So I was a full like 13 to 16 hours ahead of everyone I knew time zone wise.
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And I texted one of my friends being like, dude, you'll never guess what I just saw. Like, this is the craziest thing. And I think the craziest part was that I will say people were already kind of coming for her because of what she had said about Fernanda Torres. And kind of just like how she's been in the spotlight has been a bit controversial based on other things she said.
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And also like her defense of the movie, which a lot of people found baseline problematic.
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So it wasn't all me. Like, there was already a ball rolling here, you know? But I was surprised because of all that, that there was no traction on these tweets. Like, I'm telling you, like, one like, two likes. And this is stuff from 2016 to 2022. Hardly any real response. responses.
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One of my friends, I sent it to even screen recorded going through the tweets and you could see even in the views, like, you know, when you look at tweets in someone's feed, you see the amount of views they have. And this was like, so I was like 200 views. So I'm like, oh wow. Like people already find this person problematic and they didn't even see this.
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So that's what was, I was mostly shocked because no one else had seen it.
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It is. Well, I will say allegedly a couple of them that were going around that like other screenshots were fake, like the Selena Gomez one apparently was totally fake. And some people said maybe the Hitler one wasn't real. But at that point, like it's like that wasn't tipping the scale in any way.
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But yeah, I think it was just surprising that it was, like, truly not a persona she had of being maybe, like, a right-wing aggressor or someone who has one identity but also has another of, like, kind of Caitlyn Jenner-esque.
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That wasn't even her identity, which I think was also very surprising. But yeah, I mean, it was all just really shocking. And once those tweets started going viral, I did also get a lot of DMs from Spanish speakers who were telling me that like the translations didn't do how hateful it was justice.
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Like there were certain words she was using to describe Muslim women that would kind of have translated to animal tonally. Like it was apparently even worse in Spanish, which is something that maybe the translations didn't give off.
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So again, it was just like, what? Like, how did they not find this?
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Oh, yeah, that was good. That was really good. Yeah, it was crazy because the initial reaction wasn't an apology. She actually didn't say, I'm sorry. She just acknowledged it and was like, yeah, those are things I said. And I said this in an interview. I think when it comes to people saying terrible things, there is a way to start coming back from it and to be very sincere and show humility and
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Being like, yeah, I said these things that are very terrible and like fully acknowledging it as a bad thing you said that hurt a specific group of people. That wasn't her first instinct at all shows me this is more about her chance for winning an Oscar being totally kind of ruined, perhaps. over stuff she said and stood by for a very long time.
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Like, I don't think she ever really apologized for it. It's all coming from a very, very defensive place. Like in one of them, she was like, you'd be surprised to know I, one of the people I love the most in my life is a Muslim.
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It can't be that. Yeah. It's also like, who is this friend? Yeah. No, no, no. Show me to me. Like, who the hell is this person? Bring him out. It's time. And also, you only say that if it's a novelty for you. Yeah, yeah. I'm not going to be out here being like, you'd be surprised to know I have an Asian friend. The reason why you're surprised is because you hate this person.
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That's the shocking part. Yeah. You're hateful and you have a friend who is like the person you hate.
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Of like going viral over something stupid. This is, I will say, the most intense of anything that I've been a part of. Also, because like you guys know me, I'm just Sarah. Like I'm not out here like a part of the industry in that way. Like I'm not a movie person. Like I don't work in film. I live in Toronto. I don't do anything.
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And to me, it was just very surprising that like I was a part of this conversation at all. Yeah. Like it's like so laughable that it's me. And I don't really give a shit about like online racists or trolls ever.
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But I think once I started getting bigger, like with that variety interview, I didn't really end up looking at what anyone was saying about that outside of like my friends who were messaging me or whatever. But I'd say most of all, it's been great. Like Brazilians love me now. Sarah Hagee, come to Brazil. They literally are out here calling me Sarah Hagee da Silva. Yeah. So that's pretty awesome.
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I think it's been mostly positive, but it's also just like weird because again, I'm like, who am I? The world is too small that someone like me could have done this.
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That's the most shocking thing to me. It's like I feel like baseline if there is a film that becomes this big and one of the stars maybe didn't have the global recognition. This isn't like Zoe Saldana who's been famous for the last like whatever amount of years. Like this is someone who's new to this type of fame.
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You see that many tweets from someone. I think without even looking specifically, nuke all those tweets from before when they started tweeting about their film or whatever. Yeah.
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It just seems so obvious to me. And that's what's so surprising. It's like, if you're that famous or becoming that famous, the easiest footprint to get rid of would be Twitter.
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Well, listen. Demi, Demi, Demi. Demi and I, with my famous friends, like I don't lead with that.
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Like she's just Demi to me. You know what I mean? It's like the way you're just like Hunter, you're just Peyton. Like it's not about those things. So I felt very violated with that. No, it's so funny. Imagine I was actually friends with Demi Moore.
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Why would I have met her? I'm like, what is this? I think also it's because after I did those tweets, I made a joke saying, you're welcome, Demi Moore. Yes, I saw that. But it's true. It's like, you know, it was between her and Carla, right? Yeah. I don't know. I think it was really stupid.
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I think that kind of ruined everything because I was like, man, like blind items, you really just can't be saying anything. Yeah.
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But hey, if you want to give me money, you can give me money.
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You can follow me on Twitter. Twitter.com slash KindaHagee and Scamfluencers. Yeah, that's basically it. Thank you, Sarah. Thanks so much, Sarah. I love you guys.
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And then it turns out Dr. Robbie goes through his locker and he was stealing medication. And it's like, okay, well, is she redeemed now? In my eyes, no. No. She was still annoying from the very beginning. Like she was right, but she was annoying about it. Absolutely. Many such cases.
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You know what he looks like? Who? Skinny Gaston from Beauty and the Beast.
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Yeah. Yeah. With a really dark hair. Yeah. I can see that. I don't really care for him, but I did like that he came back in the nick of time when he returned to the hospital. I love that.
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I need someone to kind of tell her about herself. It's a little annoying. Because she can be a little bit condescending in a way that is annoying.
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Let's be for real. I think it's because like the medical staff, the doctors on the show have to like find resolutions quickly because like the patients are so chaotic. Not even chaotic, but just like have so much story, have so much like complication, which is what I like about the show that like the patients really do feel like pretty realized in a short amount of time.
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I'm thinking about the child patients that are like, I was like really getting emotional about those patients. The pregnant black woman surrogate with her, the couple that she was, being a surrogate for, um, as like her coworker at a school or something. And then I really loved the elderly black man who had like a lot of medical knowledge, but like no one really knew why.
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And they thought, did he used to work at this hospital? But he drove a kind of like a makeshift ambulance during a time of segregation. Yeah. And I thought that was like, so I'm so happy that that story was like on TV. And I thought it was also like really wonderfully done and only like a few and like a very short amount of time.
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Yeah. But a TV show has not made me so sad. And like the way that one like young girl wants to get an abortion and her mom is like so against it. And yet her aunt is like, no, that's my girl. I've got you. Like, how can we make this happen for you? Those kind of like moral conundrums, I think the show does pretty well. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I can't believe I'm watching a medical drama.
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Yeah. Yeah. You know what? I think that's like a really underappreciated like by me piece of the show because when they have the COVID flashbacks, I'm like, oh yeah. Right. Totally. But the drama just in every day of the ER, every day of the ER, every hour of the ER, I think that is like such a good conceit because it really does feel like, oh my gosh, like it can be anything at any one time.
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It's like being on Twitter. It's like, who knows what's going to happen today? Yeah.
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Wow. Okay. But I mean, I'm ready. I love this show. I'm like, I want four seasons immediately.
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So be good at that. Bitch. No, I would not be.
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Okay. We ask everyone who comes on the show a quick intro question and it is, are you a lover or a hater? How do you identify?
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Yes, yes. Because when I think about you, I'm like, okay, Louis has an encyclopedic knowledge of pop. Yes. Of women and pop specifically. And that only comes from being a lover, I think. I agree. You have to love to like learn. For sure.
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No, that is 100% true. Yeah. Okay, we want to go rapid fire.
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Girl, let me get a pen so I can take some notes.
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Oh, yeah. Neither do I. I don't even know why I would ask about that.
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Well, I was with some of our friends and one of them ordered one at the bar and I was like, hmm, that's in like a little cute whatever bottle or whatever. Okay. Let me tell you about your niece, Remy.
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I like it. Abracadabra is really an earworm. It's, like, in my head, like, you wouldn't believe. And I'm, again, I mean, my gaga knowledge is not the greatest, mostly because I went to Catholic school, and I find it all a little bit much.
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No, I loved Born This Way. I loved at my Zumba class that I went to in high school, we would listen to You and I as like our cool down stretch.
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Amazing song. Oh, love. And then it wasn't really until A Star is Born, a little indie feature called A Star is Born that I locked in and I was like, oh, and we're far from the shallow now.
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Whitney Lanithia Harris. She has been – talk about working my nerves – She is so funny. She has this one. Okay. So, you know, all dogs love like the lambies, the lamb chop toys. And Remy has one that I call her wicked lambie because it's a Halloween lambie that has a witch's hat on it. It's her Elphaba lambie.
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No, of course. I was born drinking coffee, sitting on a front porch, gossiping. about the neighbors. I was born to do that. That's actually my calling. So I want to quickly, can you give us some context into like the pre mayhem Gaga era? Cause it was like, she was doing the pharmaceutical stuff.
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No, I'm happy to do that. Oh my God. I'm going to say HIPAA. She has the boyfriend who was like, we need you to lock in and get back in the studio and make pop music again. And then the third little piece of it is that she'd done... films.
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She started doing like Stars Born stuff and then unfortunately was in like two of the most unfortunate forays into big budget filmmaking which was the House of Gucci and the Joker sequel.
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And sometimes she like wakes up, comes out of the crate, has the lambie in her mouth already, jumps in the bed. And I'm like, oh, she's starting. Yeah. Like, she is starting.
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Okay. Okay. I mean, it is, I think I read this in the Pitchfork Review. It's like she's reheating her nachos, but in a way that is like, actually, they're still good. Like they're still, they're not fresh, but they're still tasty.
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You're going to eat these nachos. Yeah. Which is another, I think not, I see what you're saying about like the truest stars should be looking forward, but it is also like a talent. For sure. A lot of people cannot do that, Adele. Yeah. Honestly, T. No, like, no, sorry, did I lie?
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She really, like, she's already ready. And the way that she will try to, like, want me to play fetch with it, but then will, like, run away at the last minute. Like, her yabba-dabba-doo ass, her feet on the hardwood, like, scrambling, running. I'm like, oh my gosh, you're... You're so me. Like she is.
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Yeah, yeah. But Abracadabra, I don't know if I hear her inspire, but I'm like, oh, but I still love this.
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Yes. I mean, plane, bus, train, another plane, another club.
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Tell us favorite Mayhem songs, least favorite Mayhem songs.
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I was like, wait, this needs to be a David Hedger movie right now.
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Yes. She's persistent. Although I was with someone who was like, oh, you have like a little white dog, right? With like stuff around their eyes. I said, oh, you called me a monkey. That's what you just called me. So you want me dead. So you want me dead.
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And which one? But wait, can I say, I was listening, and I was like, oh, I hear it. Like, it is, what is it called?
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community of course it's her you know you know me girl be for real hunter was on stage for like sheer comic relief when we did our tailor so she was just like we needed someone to drag her my tailor ranking was i'll say it crazy it was but it was it was important that we had that i gotta say i think red was like my third to last and my stand by it okay but no when i was listening i was like okay with my like dj louie ears on i was like oh this is giving reputation it's
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Okay, I hate to say it, but I loved that song.
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She's two. No, now she's like really, Remy is at the age where she is Saoirse Ronan in the third act of Lady Bird when she's on her way to college and she's walking through the street. She gets like really drunk at that NYU dorm, has to go to the hospital, and then is like calling her mom being like, okay, mom, I love you. It's Christine. It's the name you gave me. It's a good one.
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Shallow is on a feature. Featuring Bradley Cooper?
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And we know that. Women supporting women in my book. Louis, thank you so much for being here. This has been a real education. Oh my God. Okay, now tell us, where can people follow you? Where can people follow Pop Pantheon?
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I love this dynamic where like every few weeks, it's just time for me to talk about Housewives and for you to slightly like be disinterested, politely nod along, give me like maybe a little like golf clap of approval.
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Girl, Atlanta, of course. Okay. Atlanta, hot Atlanta, dare I say. So Atlanta, Housewives. I've gone through a little bit of a reboot. It's kind of like when an NBA team was, like, in a rebuilding era for the sports fans in the room. So the cast, which used to be, like, such an anchor housewives, was Atlanta, with, like, Meany Leagues, with She By Sheree, with Kandi Burruss. With She by Trey.
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Oh, Trey Whitfield, I guess. Now they have done like some like restructuring, added some younger, newer women. And I did watch two episodes so far and I like it. Yeah? I, you know, I ride for one woman and one woman only. My North Star, my Lisan Al-Ghaib, my Club Chalamet, NeNe Leakes. And in her absence, this'll do.
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Well, she's been open to coming back. Oh. She has like a YouTube talk show. Oh, sorry, but... Many such cases. So the new cast is Portia Williams, who is like Returner, Drew Sidora, Shamia Morton, Britt Eadie, Kelly Farrell, and Angela Oakley, with Phaedra Parks joining as a wife, like a housewife later in the season, and Cynthia Bailey appears as a friend. And the anchor castmate is Shamia, who...
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who first appeared on the show as a friend of Portia's, which is kind of, like, you know, nice. Like, she's very, like, a Kandi Burress character. Okay. Kandi Burress housewife, where she is not really quick to anger, but will, like, get to the point quickly and will point out, like, when someone else is being absurd and is, like, a good kind of audience proxy. And she's also incredibly wealthy.
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That is actually so mean of you to say. Oh, suddenly it's illegal to be long-winded on this podcast.
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But Shamia has, like – it's so nice to see – despite having all of this money, like a house with like three elevators and like four closets and all of this stuff, she really does seem like so down to earth and relatable in a way that like, I don't know. I feel like sometimes the black housewives get a lot of flack for like being out of touch or something like that.
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And like, she is so just like a regular girl who just happens to have a lot of money. And I don't know. I just find that like very winning from her.
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It is like the NBA versus three cats and a pickleball trying to play basketball. I don't know. That's the best I can do.
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I'm joking. Are you kidding? I did Monica Cino's three-on-three elementary school basketball day and I made one single basket and I'm proud of me. No, it's like, first of all, it's not even about age or money or anything. It's like the women on Atlanta are like ready to start drama, start storylines. Yeah. You know, just live their authentic, real lives.
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Where on like the Roni reboot, it's so like talking around stuff. They don't film together enough. It's just night and day. And what else about it? Oh, yes. Okay. So in the season premiere, there's like a really funny moment where all women are like at Shamia's birthday. And Portia has found out that Drew Sidora, another woman on the show, has been sneaking around maybe with Portia's baby daddy.
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Okay. And Portia is like, all of them are in this like same room, like same scene together. And Portia looks around. She's like, can I break the fourth wall? And a producer off camera, break it. And she's like, you know, I mean, it shook the table for me. People were like, it's underwhelming.
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I was like, no, it wasn't because Portia's whole thing is she's like, I don't even care if you're sleeping with my baby daddy, like whatever, like we're so not together at all. But you want to film with him? You want him in your scenes? Oh, hell no. And thank God she stood on it too.
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No, I was like, wait, this is so funny. And it's funny that like she breaks the fourth wall. And I saw like a lot of Bravo people being like, the drama was not even like good enough to break the fourth wall. But I think that's funny that she's like, there's so like regular workplace struggles of like, don't you dare fall with my ex-husband or with my like ex-man. That's so annoying of you.
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What can I say? If you couldn't tell, I've had a little bit of me espresso. Put that shot down. I I feel like that Snoop Dogg video at the Lakers game. Oh my God. Wait, yeah. Oh, I thought you were from LA. This week, we are checking in, clocking in, locking in to The Pit, my new favorite TV show. And we'll be talking about The Real Housewives of Atlanta, the new reboot.
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So a big part of this season's drama is that Kenya Moore, like, iconic, you know, not OG, but like, you know, pretty substantial, gone with the wind, fabulous, twirl city, whatever you want to call it. Kenya Moore has been fired from the season of Atlanta.
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And we haven't gotten that far in the show yet, but it is like definitely a lot of bad blood between her and Bravo because she is on the show, but she doesn't even get confessionals. Even Cynthia Bailey gets a confessional and she's like not even a core cast member.
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And so what happened was that as we were filming, Kenya showed revenge porn, basically, of one of the other cast members, Britt Eadie, and Bravo completely cut her out of the show. And so I think we're, like, about to see... Oh. By the time this episode comes out, like, we've either just seen her, like, or about to see exactly what went down from, like, all the other women's perspectives.
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But I'm like, wow. Kenya is just... I mean, I think the Watch What Crappens guys were exactly right. She really is a good housewife when she's, like, locked in. She's so good at escalating something so small.
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No, it is confirmed. She initially denied the accusation of revenge porn. But then she, on the Tamron Hall show, told Tamron Hall, hindsight is always 50-50. If I could do it all over again, I believe the photos were distasteful and I elevated the situation. So she did kind of admit just showing these like inappropriate photos. Okay. Okay.
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And, you know, I mean, again, it's like nothing, nothing will be right in the world until NeNe Leakes has a peach again. Totally. Totally.
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One thing about me is that I love walking past a hospital and thinking, I know exactly what's going on in there. Thanks to the pit. Don't let Hunter near ketamine.
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And I love to learn. So let me just say this. Let me say this. Are you looking for a home for your worst opinions?
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I have started, honestly, I don't even know why I started watching, a little show called The Pit.
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Oh, it is so good. Okay. Let me tell you the logline for people who are not pit-pilled, pitified already. Yes. Pitified. Okay. Quote, So every episode on this show is an hour in the workday of an emergency room in Pittsburgh starring Noah Weil as Dr. Rabinowitz or Dr. Robbie. Mm-hmm. So basically it is a little television program called ER. Right. But set in present day.
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And let me tell you this, they do more ketamine on this show than a club in Bushwick. Like, oh my God, every possible medical malady, 30 cc's ketamine, please. Right.
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Maybe so. Well, and we'll talk about that more later because I have questions. Let me say, spoiler alert, if you haven't watched, like, you need to clock in, lock in. But, yeah, we're going to be spoiling some stuff.
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I've never watched ER because I'm what? Young. Oh, I have watched a little bit of Grey's Anatomy when I was in middle school. And then I kind of around the time of when Sandra Oh left, I was like, oh, if Christina's gone, I'm gone. Like, that's my girl. Yeah. But it is funny having like really only watched a medical drama that's Grey's Anatomy.
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When I'm watching The Pit, I'm like, so what, you guys aren't like fucking in the break room like every couple shifts? Like, that's so crazy to me. That's so you don't have any like really unusual boundaryless relationships with like your direct superior. What's going on here?
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Oh God. I don't even want to know what that is actually. But wait, but first I have to tell you my favorite like meta part of this show is the like legal dispute between one of the creators of ER, their estate and this show. So one of the co-creators of ER who's dead, his estate alleged in a lawsuit that that The Pit was created as a sequel to ER without the permission of the estate and the heirs.
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And the creators of The Pit said that it's not an ER reboot and that it's not as similar to ER as it is to like Grey's Anatomy or any other medical drama. But that is like so funny to me that it is so – I don't know. For that, I'm like – I guess I don't watch enough like medical dramas to really know what's the difference between like any medical drama and like this medical drama, you know? Yeah.
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No, no, no. I would like to see like a lawsuit that's like, wait, Dr. Robbie is actually so hot. Like House should be calling like that show. It's like you can't have a hot doctor without being like, hmm.
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Yes, yes. That sounded weird. No, that was my man though. That was my man. I didn't play about him.
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Oh, yes, yes, yes. You know, she's an epi baby. Thank God. And no wonder I loved her. She's Bryan Cranston's daughter, I learned over the weekend. And let me tell you, doesn't make a difference to me. I'm like, no. Don't care, she's fab. She is amazing. She's the only, one of the few NEPA babies where I'm like, I ride for you regardless. Like, no Gracie Abrams, I love you. I love you up and down.
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And let's talk about it. Talk about, don't talk about a B about it. So Dr. Robbie, he's both so like sweet, calm, kind, exceptionally patient, which as an impatient gal, I'm like, Ooh, I need to take a few notes. But he's also like the man you want to call in a crisis. Oh yes. I bet he can mount a TV too. I bet he's mounted a few TVs. Like he knows what to do.
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He's so decisive. He's so like right in the nick of time. I love a man who has a sense of urgency. That is rare in our society. Let me say that. And a great nose. Great nose. Yeah, 100%. We know why. And I like the sound of his voice is so good too. He is the main character on the show. And he has, like, a team of attendings and interns. And then there is the nurse, the charge nurse.
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A nurse with a bob who will smoke outside. Girl. Stronger than the troops.
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Okay. Favorite characters. The charge nurse, that young blonde intern that we talked about. I think she is just so understanding and understanding in a way that's not like patronizing, you know, like genuinely wants to know people's struggles and help them without, you know, being a little bit finger waggy, which I like. Yeah.
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I also like the doctor with those bad bangs, kind of dry, giving dry ends, but with the ankle monitor, with the hot ex-husband. Yes, yes, yeah. And the son named Harrison. I love her because, again, she is always there in the nick of time and a really good teacher.
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I think The Pit is kind of like a romance about what it means to actually want to teach and share information in a way that is kind of lovely to me.
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Like that they have these like teacher student relationships on the show. I mean, it happens between the blonde doctor and the man with the butt chin and the young like prodigy doctor and the ankle monitor doctor. Girl, I don't know anyone's name.
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Jesus. What the fuck? Okay. And let's see. Do I have any other favorites? Oh, I love the old woman in the wheelchair, Myrna, that runs around catcalling Dr. Robbie. Oh, and you know who else I love? Who is the other doctor that's like the Dr. Robbie equivalent?
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No, I mean, she's fine. But is it Dr. Adams is his name?
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Dr. Abbott. The sexy one. The sexy one who used to be in the military or something. And he's like, don't talk to me. I love a mean, surly individual. I feel very seen.
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The bottle is like sparkling, right? It's like fizzy. Kind, no.
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Well, not in the room with you because aren't you in LA?
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No, I really can't stand her. I saw like some headline that's like, oh, she's been redeemed because she alleges against spoiler alert. Yeah. She alleges that one of the attendings, Dr. or no, one of the residents. Yeah. I think Dr. Langdon has been like secretly like stealing medication and no one really believes her. And like she's kind of like, you know, ostracized for saying it.
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Yeah, it's one of those things that's just like, why won't NASA go back and take the rover over to Cydonia and check out what's really going on there? Why do they avoid that entire region?
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Ich meine, wir werden sehen, wo die Gespräche geht. Aber ja, das ist das, was ich am liebsten über dich liebe. Du kommst hierher, es ist wie, es gibt keine Rehe. Es ist einfach so, ja, genau, fragt was auch immer. Also nein, ich habe das über dich gefreut, Mann.
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Selbst seitdem du auf meinem Show gekommen bist, hast du auf die Joe Rogan-Erfahrung gearbeitet und dann auf Sean Ryan. Ich wollte dich fragen, wie du diese zwei Podcasts vergleichst. Wie waren sie?
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Stanley Kubrick, okay.
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That's the real conspiracy. Okay, fascinating. So the entities that were following their craft on the way there and the entities that landed on the crater that were observing them, I mean, if I'm like future humans and I want to go back and see some of the most important, incredible times that have happened throughout human history, I mean, that's one that I want to be present at, right?
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So, I mean... Es könnte eine Möglichkeit sein, dass es zukünftige Menschen wäre, es könnte eine Möglichkeit sein, dass es einfach einfach Extraterrestrials wäre, es könnte eine Verbrechung der Zivilisation sein, glaube ich. Ich meine, irgendwelche Gedanken auf, ich glaube, ich frage, du weißt, das UAP-Phänomen generell, was denkst du, dass es ist?
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Habe ich etwas gehört über die offizielle Erklärung, die endlich herausgekommen ist, dass es Eispartikel oder so war?
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Denkst du, dass Jake Barber und dieser Eierschöpfige UAP, du denkst, er ist ein legitimer Typ, dass er ist, wer er sagt, er ist, und dass das ein echter UAP-Incident war? Er ist der Helikopterpilot.
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Ich meine, nicht, dass wir sie immer glauben, aber ich denke, es ist zu dem Punkt, wo es so unglaublich offensichtlich für alle ist, dass etwas passiert. Ja, und sie mussten es tun.
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Back to the moon for a second. Do you think that it is a natural object? Do you think that it is a spaceship? Do you think that it was broken off from the earth? A lot of the coincidence is about the moon, its size. What are your thoughts on the moon?
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Ich habe etwa fünf Minuten von dem Wesley-Huff-on-Joe-Rogan-Ding gesehen und ich konnte es nicht nehmen. Ich musste es ausmachen. Es war zu
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Das ist super cool. Ja. In any of your research about the ancient solar system and how the planets came to be and where they formed and whatnot, do you have any thoughts on why Uranus is rotating on its side? It's like the only planet that doesn't rotate horizontally. It rotates vertically. Any thoughts on that?
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Wow, das ist super cool. Ja. All good. Speaking of objects coming through the solar system, I've got Avi Loeb coming on. I think in June, I know you guys are good friends. Harvard scientist, professor, brilliant, brilliant guy. He taught me so much about Oumuamua as it was approaching the earth and it passed right by the earth. I think without his perspective on that thing,
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Ich denke, wir vergessen dieses Objekt und es ist nicht so wichtig. Es ist ein Objekt aus einem interstellaren Raum, das in unser Solarsystem fliegt. Es ist der erste, den wir jemals gefunden haben. War es der erste oder der zweite? Ich glaube, es war der erste. Es ist so ungewöhnlich, wie nahe es an der Erde kam und dann so schnell. Ja. Ich meine, was sind deine Gedanken auf das ganze Ding?
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Yeah, his work on that and his work on kind of gathering those sphericals out of the Indian Ocean. Yeah, I can't wait to dive into some of that stuff.
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He doesn't care about judgment, what people think about his thoughts. He knows he's a brilliant, logical guy who's just trying to figure stuff out without bias, without preconceived notions. He doesn't care what people think. Ich meine, das erinnert mich ein bisschen an dich. Es ist so, wie wir weitergehen. Es ist so, wie wir weiterentwickeln. Es ist so, wie wir weiterentwickeln.
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Es ist so, wie wir weiterentwickeln. Es ist so, wie wir weiterentwickeln. Let's take it back to Egypt. And, you know, there were a couple of things that I saw actually on your X-Channel. And you were talking about, well, a handful of things, but the Schiss-Disk, Sabu's-Disk, and potentially that like being a device that can stir up water or something.
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You know, I saw like a little test that you were doing. Yeah, there it is. Tell me about this device and what are your current thoughts on it?
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Do you know when it was found, if it was broken or if it was intact, when it was found in the tomb? It was just like this.
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I couldn't remember if it had been repaired in modern times or not. But it's a fascinating object. I just wonder how old it is. How old is it really?
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Ja, Ryan, zeig uns das Artikel, das ich gestern Abend am Abend erwähnt habe, über das Boot und die Fischhügel und die Fischhügel-Line und die Scharke und die Tuna. Wild. Wild, man. Ich meine, 40.000 Jahre ago, wir haben eine Zivilisation in Südostasien, die Scharke und Tuna fangen, damit wir wissen, dass sie die Möglichkeit hatten, tief in den Ozean zu fliegen und die Welt zu transnavigieren.
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Und es ist so, dass jeder fragt, wo ist die Beweise für Atlantis? Wo ist die Beweise für die Verlust der Zivilisation? Es ist überall, Mann. Wir haben so viel so etwas wie das. Und es ist so, I think people get too stuck on the word Atlantis. And like pinpointing it down to like a specific time or a specific date. Or location. Right, or location, right. Humans in Southeast Asia 40,000 years ago.
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This is archaeology.org now. I mean, these people are even forced to recognize that this is real.
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Exactly. So scroll down. I mean, this is crazy. So they... Ich meine, es geht um viel von dem, was sie gefunden haben und was sie gegräbt haben. Aber es ist all diese Fischstücke, wie Hüfte und Wege und Rippen und Bindungen. Ja, ja, all das. Sturte Boote. Sturte Boote. Ich meine, es muss sein, um in den Mittelpunkt des Ozeans zu kommen und Scharke und Tuna zu fangen.
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Richtig, richtig. Und ich denke, dass sie auch über die Rope nachdenken, weil ich weiß nicht, ob sie eigentlich Ropes von 40.000 Jahren her gefunden haben. Aber ich meine, es ist verrückt, Mann. Ich meine, die Beweise zu some of the stuff that you've been talking about for a couple of decades now, it's all over the place.
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Ja, wir haben Atlantis erwähnt, wir haben Ring City erwähnt. Ich bin Freunde von Jimmy Corsetti und Randall Carlson. Zwei gute Leute. Ich habe sie beide auf dem Show gesehen. Ich liebe sie. Tolle Leute. Tolle Leute. Sehr klare Leute. Ich meine, sie erleichtern die Welt wirklich durch ihr Werk. Du weißt, wie du selbst bist.
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Jimmy ist sehr viel in die Idee der Rishat-Struktur, die Hauptstadt Atlantis ist. Ja. Randall ist mehr in den Azores als die Hauptstadt. Und ich respektiere beide von ihnen. Ich denke, Jimmy ist völlig offen darauf, dass das eine weitgehende Sache war. Das war nicht nur die Rishat-Struktur. Aber die Beweise, die er für die Rishat-Struktur gebracht hat, sind schrecklich.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Ja, ja, ja, ohne Zweifel, ohne Zweifel. Ja, aber ich glaube, du würdest sagen, dass es nicht so ist, als wäre es nur ein Ort. Es ist nicht so, als wäre es nur ein Ort. Es ist nicht so, als wäre es nur ein Ort. Es ist nicht so, als wäre es nur ein Ort. Es ist nicht so, als wäre es nur ein Ort. Es ist nicht so, als wäre es nur ein Ort. Es ist nicht so, als wäre es nur ein Ort.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Es ist nicht so, als wäre es nur ein Ort.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Denken Sie, dass es die ältesten Ägypten waren, die all diese riesigen Statuen gebaut haben, oder denken Sie, dass es weiter geht?
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Yeah, open-mindedness is the cure. Yeah, for sure. That can take us into the future.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Das SARS-Projekt. Ich meine, wir haben viel über Ägypten gesprochen und so weiter. Ich wollte Ihre Gedanken darüber bekommen und wie das vielleicht, weißt du, ist das real, ist das nicht real, weißt du, und wie bezieht es sich in die alte Geschichte, wenn es ist?
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Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Und in Angelegenheit von Wohnquartieren und Raum für die Menschen, wie würde es den Funktionen der Pyramide beeinflussen, wenn überhaupt? Was war der Grund? Hatte es eine Funktion?
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
I think it was copies of the original, much more ancient structures that were, yeah.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Keine Körper wurden gefunden.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Yeah, it is for sure. Yeah, and the accuracy and the precision of them. And it's like, why? How did they get them down there? I mean, there's so many mysteries. Why granite? Perfectly level. Some of Chris Dunn's work down there was phenomenal, obviously, back in the day.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
ohne zu krachen oder es zu brechen. Du bist in der Idee, der Theorie des nuklearen Kraftwerks, die in der Vergangenheit genutzt wurde. Radiation wird mehr als nur Hintergrund-Radiation gefunden, etwa zwei, drei, fünf, zehn Mal mehr als nur normales Radiation. Überall in Ägypten, diese Mastabas, ich glaube, sie heißen Mastabas, das, was Ägyptologen sagen, sind Turmen.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Yeah.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Ja, und es würde Sinn machen, dass wenn das alles so alt war, dass die Werkzeuge, die dafür gebraucht wurden, einfach nicht mehr existieren.
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Es gibt sie überall in der Region und es gibt viele Radiationen dort. Ich meine, 10-15 mal mehr als bei normaler Radiation.
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Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Ich hatte einen Wissenschaftler diese Woche und wir haben über die Vase gesprochen und er teilt deine Theorie, dass die nukleare Kraft in der Ältesten Zeit von einer Zivilisation verwendet wurde, die verloren wurde. Er sieht die Mastabas als nukleare Wäschedumpfe. Und das ist der Grund, warum die Radiation da unten so extrem ist.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Was für andere Beweise sieht man in Ägypten für Beweise der nuklearen Macht?
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Ja, als wir darüber gesprochen haben, haben wir darüber gesprochen, dass die Theorie auch dazu gehört, dass viele von den, wenn du viele der ältesten Sachen, die gebraten wurden, wie Pferde und sogar Gräser von Menschen und so, das ist, wo die Verbrechung beginnen würde. Und die Verbrechung und die Menschen, die sterben und so weiter.
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Aber es war nicht wegen Geistern und Geistern und Apparitionen und Verbrechungen. Es war wegen Radiation.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Okay, okay. Ja, du musst deine Geige bringen. Ich freu mich jetzt über die Beine. Ich denke, wie lange muss ich hier leben? Ja.
Matt Beall Limitless
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Ja, und ich glaube, es ist anekdotale Beweise und vielleicht nicht vollständig beurteilt, dass viele Ägyptologen und Leute, die in diesem Bereich arbeiten und ältere Objekte entdecken, eine höhere Anzahl an Krankheiten haben und eine jüngere, eine höhere Anzahl an Todesfällen.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Ja, auf Tutankhamun's Tomb sah ich auf deinem Ex-Kanal einen Post von etwa einem Monat oder so, da wurde ein X-Ray von seinem Helmet, seiner Maske, und es war wie, vielleicht war es in ein paar verschiedenen Teilen, und das war eine Überraschung für Historiker und Archäologen.
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Es ist wild, ja. Und woher haben sie das Gold bekommen? Das ist einer der Gründe, warum ich Jimmy's Atlantis-Rishat-Theorie so liebte, dass Atlantis gesagt wurde, dass sie so viel Gold hatten, nur Gold, Gold, Gold. Und dass man Ägypten formen musste. Es ist nicht so weit weg, wie man es sich vorstellt.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Die Leute, die in der Wüste navigieren und in diese ältere Stadt gehen, um all dieses Gold zu finden und es zurückzubringen und es in was auch immer zu machen. All diese Dinge, die die gesamte Stadt dekorieren.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Ja, ja, ja. Well, how are you feeling? Okay, we got about an hour till you got to leave. Are you cool just talking through? Yeah, cool.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Cool.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Yeah, I mean, with an hour left, you know, I kind of got just maybe some, some random questions. Everybody, you know, loves to hear your thoughts on just, just random, you know, like rapid fire kind of questions. So, yeah. Einer der Gäste, den du letztens auf deinem Show veröffentlicht hast, war Terrence Howard. Ich habe seinen Episode über Joe Rogan geschaut und war total überrascht.
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Yeah, we've been doing scientific analysis on the vases and there's very clearly a couple of different classes that these vases fall into and one is extremely precise and it's just impossible to make with primitive tools. It has to be machined. There's just no doubt about it.
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Ich glaube, alle waren überrascht. Er war super viral. Und dann kam der Harvey Weinstein-Mathematiker und hat ihn ausgedruckt. Ich fühlte mich wie Harvey, ich will nicht drüber reden, aber er war ein Arschloch. Ja, er war ein Arschloch.
Matt Beall Limitless
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Ja, es war schlecht.
Matt Beall Limitless
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Ja, es war. Ich meine, für Harvey war es erschreckend. Für mich war es wie... Es hat ihn schlecht ausgesehen.
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Genau, genau. Ja, sicher, sicher. Aber ich respektiere Terrence und seine Meinung und die Art und Weise, wie er denkt und was er in Bezug auf seine Verständnis der Realität gemacht hat. Was waren einige der Dinge, die du von ihm genommen hast, die du gesprochen hast, die dir wichtig oder bedeutend waren?
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That's what I heard too, yeah. No copper has been found in any of these things so far. I mean, no chicken bones have been found anywhere. I always think back to Flint Dibble went on Danny Jones and he's talking about this. They just attached a rock to a stick and they twisted it with their hands like this.
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Das ist cool, das ist cool. Ja, da gibt es ein Vase, auf dem wir einige Forschungen gemacht haben. Es heißt der OG-Vase. Es ist ein roter Granit-Vase. Und das Blut der Leben wurde in diesem Vase gefunden. Und wenn du es anschaust, sind seine Messungen in royalen Fingern hergestellt, das sind 18,7 Millimeter. Es wurde von Isaac Newton entdeckt, als ein altes System der Metrologie.
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Aber es war, du bekommst, wie für die Mundöffnung, du bekommst Pi, reine Finger, also 18,7 mal Pi, du bekommst das als die Dimension, du bekommst, du bekommst, du bekommst Phi, du bekommst all diese verschiedenen, kindergeometrischen Messungen, die hier in diesem Gesicht erscheinen. Und ich habe es geschaut. Und die Höhe davon war 6,4 Royal Fingers groß. Und ich dachte mir, das macht keinen Sinn.
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Es ist die einzige Messung, die nicht wirklich zu einem heiligen Geometrie-Nummer entspricht. Und dann habe ich gemerkt, 64 ist das wichtige Nummer für die Blume der Leben. Und es war so ein großer Aha-Moment.
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Ich habe es gerade gesagt.
Matt Beall Limitless
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Das ist es, was mich daran erinnert. Es war eine schreckliche Erklärung und wir haben es kurz darüber geredet. Und das war in der ersten Investition. Aber super cool. Ja, ich respektiere wirklich die Art und Weise, wie er es denkt. Er spricht über Dinge, die die Wissenschaft in den Kopf schließen. Und ich verabschiede mich, als ich sagte, Harvey Weinstein. Ich glaube, er ist der Rape.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Aber Eric Weinstein. Es ist einfach zu verwirren. Ich habe den Namen auch nicht gedacht, den ersten Namen. Ja, genau, genau. Aber ja, das ist cool, Mann. Also ein paar andere Dinge, solange ich mit dem Rapidfire weitergehe. Hast du Ashton Forbes gehört? Ashton Forbes. Bring me a little update on that. Well, he's the guy who's doing all the research on MH370.
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And he's looking at, you said zero-point energy, so he's the one who's looking at zero-point energy. And his theory is that the MH370, Flight MH370, disappeared and is said to have just disappeared in the Indian Ocean somewhere. Yeah, they couldn't find it for years, they haven't found it yet. Can't find it, right, right. And it's like planes don't just disappear.
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Es kam ein Video raus, das er realistisch denkt. Ich hatte ihn auf dem Show. Und es sind diese drei Orbs, die einen Flugzeug starten. Und plötzlich verschwindet der Flugzeug. Und seine Meinung ist, dass das Technologie ist, die wir jetzt haben. Und dass die US-Gewerkschaft sagt, Er hat diese Technologie, dieses Video ist echt, es ist kein Verbrechen. Er denkt, er weiß, wer es geleakt hat.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Dieser Typ namens Edward C. Lynn, der dann tatsächlich für Kriege und Spionage versucht wurde. Oh Mann, ich glaube es jetzt.
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And he's using that method to explain how something can be precise to within, you know, less than one, one thousandth of an inch of perfect circularity. It's just impossible. It's not going to happen. It's not, it's impossible. And so, yeah, they were machined and it's not just, viele der Wäsche, die wir sehen.
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They got it. And then he changed his name like two months ago after Ashton like found the guy and put his name out there. He changed his name. Oh wow. Legally he won't talk to Ashton. He won't like come out and go, you know, say anything.
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Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Und es ist so, dass wir sagen können, okay, dann müssen diese Wäsche moderne Fakten sein. Aber wir sehen immer noch diesen Niveau der Präzision und Akkuratität über ganz Ägypten. Überall.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Was denkst du von den letzten UAP-Aktivitäten? Ich weiß, es ist in deiner Meinung und in meiner, es ist eine Kombination von all diesen Dingen, von all diesen verschiedenen Möglichkeiten, was es sein könnte und was es ist. Ich meine, es ist alles passiert auf einmal auf verschiedenen Ebenen. Glaubst du, dass die US-Gewerks-Technologie meistens direkt extraterrestriert ist?
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Einige der interessanteren Dinge, die wir in den Nachrichten gesehen haben, ich bin nur auf die Phänomenen im Allgemeinen interessiert.
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I had Mario Woods on the show a couple of weeks ago. I mean, yeah, he was that guy at the nuclear silo who got abducted by a massive ship, like a massive craft. I mean, he's the most believable person that you could ever talk to about this topic. I mean, Er hat nicht mit seiner Ex-Frau gesprochen in drei Jahrzehnten.
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Und niemand anders konnte die Existenz von Michael Johnson beweisen, dem anderen Mann, der mit Mario Woods verabschiedet wurde. Ich habe seine Ex-Frau kontaktiert. Sie lebt in Tampa. Und ich fragte sie, ob sie sich an Michael Johnson erinnert. War er jemals in deinem Haus? Und sie antwortete, ja, er war in meinem Haus. Ich erinnere mich an ihn und an die Geschichte.
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Mario war sehr überrascht, so wie Michael. Sie erinnerte sich an das ganze Ding. Dieser Typ hat zu Aero getestet. Er hat zu verschiedenen Mitgliedern des Kongresses getestet. Er wird am Ende vor dem Kongress testen. Das ist unglaublich. Das sind die Leute, die mit unseren nuklearen Genau! Er ist völlig mentaltätig und verrückt. Ich wünsche euch, das Video zu sehen. Es ist wild. Es ist wild.
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Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Ja, die Methoden der Konstruktion sind immer noch ein komplettes Geheimnis für mich, nachdem ich fast zwei Jahre daran verbracht habe. Ein bisschen mehr als zwei Jahre jetzt. Ich meine, wir haben noch keinen guten Sinn dafür, wie sie es geschafft haben. Sie pointen immer zu dem Glyph auf der Wand, mit Ägypten, die Alabaster-Steine arbeiten, das so lecker wie Marble ist. Es ist sehr, sehr lecker.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Richtig, absolut, absolut, ja. Ja, es gibt immer diese Debatte darüber, ob diese Extraterrestrieren friedlich sind oder nicht, ob sie uns schaden wollen oder ob sie uns lieben. Ich meine, für mich, nachdem es mich endlich erinnert, wie... vor drei oder vier Monaten. Ich bin ein Kontemplator. Ich denke immer an diese off-the-wall-Fragen. Ich denke, sie haben Krieg und Frieden übernommen.
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Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Ich denke, sie sind in Frieden. Ich denke, sie haben Unheil und Freude übernommen und sind in Frieden. Ich denke nicht, dass sie... Ich denke, dass sie das, was sie wollen, ist Balance und Stabilität. Sie sehen uns, als wären wir aus der Stone Age gekommen. Ja, wir sind Babys. Wir sind Babys, ja.
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Richtig, richtig. Aber ich denke nicht, dass es eine oder andere ist. Sie hassen uns oder lieben uns. Ich denke, sie haben das Glauben übernommen. Das ist wirklich das, was sie übernommen haben. Und die Mentalität, ich denke, sie haben erkannt, dass sie sind...
Matt Beall Limitless
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Leben selbst und dass es nicht ihre Gedanken sind und dass die Entscheidung von ihren Gedanken kommt und gut und schlecht und richtig und falsch und all das kommt von ihren Gedanken und dass sie leben auf einer höheren, sie sind von einem emotionalen Intelligenzstandpunkt so weit weg von dem, was wir als Spezies jetzt verstehen, dass diese gute, schlechte Sache einfach nicht existiert für sie und sie sind einfach da.
Matt Beall Limitless
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Inward looking to do. So in this country, I mean, we talk about the government, we talk about the information that they give us, the disinformation that they give us. I hear so many people talking about freedom and fighting for freedom and all of that. What is your definition of freedom and do you think that we are as free as we say that we are within this country?
Matt Beall Limitless
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Are we free and what's your definition of freedom?
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Und sie verwenden primitiven Werkzeugen. Aber sie machen diese riesigen Alabaster-Vasen. Sie sind viel anders als diese kleinen Hartz-Stone-Vasen. Und es sind 2000 Jahre nachdem wir wissen, dass diese gefunden wurden. Und diese könnten viel älter sein als das. Ja, es ist ein Geheimnis.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Ryan ist der Beste, Mann.
Matt Beall Limitless
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Ja, das ist super inspirierend. Und es ist ein inwarder Blick, als ein outwarder Blick. Es ist ein Leiter, als ein Follower. Genau.
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Love it, love it. Yeah, I've thought about politics a lot and just kind of the state that it's in. And I ultimately want to run for president one day when I'm older. It's like one of those lifelong goals that I've had.
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You know, a higher level. Es wird die Purple Party sein. Es ist rot und blau kombiniert. Es wird anders sein als das, was wir heute machen. Du hast meinen Unterstützung, das ist sicher. Ich habe ein paar Jahre. Ich schaue nach einem 2044-Zeitalter. Ich habe schon viel zu tun. Aber eine Stimme zu kreieren und einen Podcast zu haben, ist ein Schritt. Das ist super inspirierend, was du sagst.
Matt Beall Limitless
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Die Art und Weise, wie du dein Leben lebst und die Art und Weise, wie du über die Realität denkst, ist sehr inspirierend. Es führt zu authentischen, echten Verbindungen mit Menschen. Und ich denke, eines der Dinge, die Leute nicht wirklich wissen oder sehen, ist, wie wirklich du bist.
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Wie ehrgeizig du bist, wie authentisch du bist und wie die Verbindungen, die du mit den Leuten um dich herum in deinem Leben hast, sehr real sind. Du kannst es fühlen. Ich habe es letzte Nacht erwähnt, aber bei den Consciousness Awards letztes Jahr, ich meine, du kannst diese Verbindung, die du hast, fühlen. mit den Leuten, die an diesem Event teilnehmen.
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Es ist alles Liebe, es ist alles Frieden, es ist alles Liebe. Es sind gute Zeiten. Danke, ich freue mich auf das.
Matt Beall Limitless
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Ja, das ist wild, ja. Ja, ich hatte Joe McMoneagle früher diese Woche an, also er wird der Episode sein, der vor dir rauskommt. Er ist der Nummer-eine Remote-Viewer für das Vereinigte Staates-Gericht. Er glaubt, dass er Mars im Jahr 1.000.000 B.C. vorgesehen hat und eine Zivilisation sah, die auf Mars war. Seine Theorie ist, dass Menschen auf beiden Planeten an dem Zeitpunkt wahrscheinlich waren.
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Cool, Mann. Ein paar random Fragen zum Schluss. Ich will dich nicht zu spät halten. Ich weiß, du hast ein Flugzeug. Ich wollte dich über ein paar random Dinge fragen, die vielleicht aktuell sind und gerade vorhanden sind, im Hinblick auf das, worüber wir gesprochen haben. Also die Epstein-File. Ich weiß, du hast ein paar Posts darüber gemacht. Du hast einige Gedanken darüber.
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Ich vergleiche das mit dem, was jetzt mit P. Diddy und Epstein passiert und wie, ob wir überhaupt Antworten auf Epstein bekommen werden. In der Zwischenzeit ist P. Diddy so, dass sich alles herausgeleitet hat. Niemand kümmert sich darum, wer welche Informationen rauskommt. Ist es, weil du diese hochwertigen, hochprofile politische Leute hast,
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in der UK-Gesellschaft, in der Vereinigten Staaten-Gesellschaft, im amerikanischen Geschäft, und mittlerweile hast du einen Rapper, und es ist okay, all seine Scheiße rauszuholen, aber Epstein, wir wissen nichts davon, wir haben noch nichts davon bekommen. Und Ghislaine Maxwell ist noch nicht geschlossen.
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Ja, ich meine, es ist schrecklich in jeder Art und Weise. Ich versuche nicht, auf die Seite zu gehen oder auf die Seite zu stehen für, weißt du, für einen von diesen Jungen. Ich meine, es gibt einige schreckliche Dinge, die da passieren. Ich meine, du sprichst von Kindern, denke ich, in beiden Situationen involviert zu sein. Aber es ist einfach verrückt, dass das verbreitet wird.
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Und es ist so, weißt du, wie kommen wir zur Wahrheit? Wann werden wir überhaupt zur Wahrheit kommen? Wahrscheinlich nicht. Es ist wie eines dieser Dinge, wo sie einfach, sie Are we free? I mean, if we were free, then we need transparency. Be a transparent government. Tell us what's really going on.
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Aber er hat einige Theorien über die Radiation und wie sie in ähnlicher Ägypten gefunden wurde und wie sie möglicherweise genutzt werden könnte, wie die nukleare Technologie genutzt werden könnte, um diese Vase zu kreieren und viele der anderen Stoffstrukturen, die wir in Ägypten sehen. Hast du da irgendwelche Gedanken? Ich denke, dass du auf der gleichen Seite bist.
Matt Beall Limitless
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Was ist mit St. Patrick und seinem Tag? Die echte Geschichte dahinter.
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Yeah, Ryan will find it. I'm blanking on it as well.
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Ja.
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Ja, und er war natürlich derjenige, der von der Kirche verabschiedet wurde, aber das ist die Kirche. Das ist die Art und Weise, wie die Kirche sich mit der Inquisition und den Hexenhunten verabschiedet hat. Es ist wie ein Genocide. Es sind 2.000 Jahre Genocide. Absoluter Genocide. Wenn eine Frau ein Heiler war, oder die Snakes?
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Nein, es ist nicht. Und es geht sogar zum 16. Jahrhundert mit Spanien und Südamerika, mit der Maya, und einfach Genocide über 80 Millionen Menschen, 100 Millionen Menschen.
Matt Beall Limitless
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Ja, und ich meine, für mich ist es nicht unbedingt... Es ist keine bestimmte Religion. Ich versuche nicht, jemanden einen Schaden zu machen oder jemanden zu beurteilen oder jemanden zu schämen oder irgendeine Gruppe von Menschen. Es ist Ego. Für mich ist es Ego.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Am Ende des Tages.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Du hast es genau richtig gesagt. Ego ist Identifikation, es ist ich bin was auch immer. Ich bin Republikaner, ich bin Demokrat, ich bin Christ, ich bin Moslem, ich bin Amerikaner, ich bin, du weißt, all diese falschen Selben, all diese geistigen Verbindungen, die das Ego auf Dinge macht.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Es erzeugt Zerbrechen, es erzeugt Zerbrechen, es erzeugt das Andere und dann dehumanisiert das Andere, bis zu dem Punkt, dass man sie attackieren kann, damit man, du weißt, man kann... Man kann es verurteilen. Man kann es verurteilen. Es ist, es ist, und es ist seit Beginn der Zeit losgegangen. Also ist es nicht so, als ob es eine Religion ist.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Es ist wirklich Identifikation und Selbstlabelung und Labelung von anderen im ersten Moment ist etwas anderes als du, etwas, du weißt, subhuman, etwas anderes und etwas, das muss sein, du weißt. Wir müssen es erradikieren, in irgendeinem Sinne von der Bewusstheit der Menschen. Denn wenn es nicht das gleiche ist wie du, dann ist es dein Feind.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Es ist einfach die Natur, wie der menschliche Geist funktioniert, an diesem Zeitpunkt. Und das ist es, worüber ich rede. Ich denke, dass eine advanced Spezies, eine extraterrestrielle Spezies, weit über all das hochgeheizt ist. Und sie sind nicht gewalttätig, sie sind nicht wie ein Krieg, sie versuchen nicht zu zerstören oder zu zerstören. Und wir sehen das, weil
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
They're not flying around in spaceships shooting laser beams at everybody.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Was ist für die Menschheit nächst? Ich möchte fragen, was für Billy Carson ist nächst? Vielleicht kommen wir zu einem Schlusspunkt in ein paar Minuten. Was ist für die Menschheit nächst? Wo sehen wir uns in den nächsten 10, 20, 50 Jahren?
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Yeah, love it, love it. Yeah, that's another thing that the mind identifies with is race, of course. If your mind's not identified with a certain race, then it's impossible to have ill will towards another race. If you realize that I'm not... I'm not a race, I'm not a certain color, a certain whatever. You don't have that hatred. It's like a political party.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
If you're not identified as a Republican or Democrat, you don't hate the other. If you're not identified as a Christian, you don't hate the other religions. So I think that that's... Ich spreche gerade über die Rasse.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Es gab einen Artikel in Live Science, der letzte Woche gesagt wurde, dass die Rasse komplett menschlich war, dass wir das erschaffen haben und dass wir uns selbst identifizieren und uns selbst labeln und andere als Rasse labeln und dass es nicht wirklich in der Wissenschaft existiert, wie Rassen, verschiedene Rassen existieren nicht wirklich in der Wissenschaft und das unterstützt einfach, dass
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Es ist nur ein Teil der Matrix. Es ist ein Teil des Egos. Es ist ein Teil dessen, womit wir uns identifizieren. Und ich denke, dass du endlich recht hast. Wir werden es lassen lassen, sobald wir weiterentwickeln. Ja, wir werden es lassen lassen.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Ja, also du bleibst beschäftigt.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Hm, das ist cool, Mann. Das ist cool.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
90.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Cool, cool, cool. Das ist großartig, Mann. Ja. Hey, ich kann dich nicht genug danken, dass du da bist, mein Freund. Es war eine tolle Konversation, super bemerkenswert, super beruflich. Ich weiß, dass du da sein wirst, aber mach einfach das, was du tust. Danke, Sir. Du drückst den Anzug, du berufst Leute, du bemerkst Leute zu Möglichkeiten.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Wir gehen über viele dieser Dogmen, wir gehen über viele dieser... Vielen Dank, ich freue mich auf das.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Thank you, brother. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Cool. Well, that's a wrap, man. Appreciate it, Ryan.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Ja, es war eine faszinierende Konversation und es ist eine neue Theorie für mich. Ich bin mir damit nicht super bekannt, aber es ist faszinierend.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Right, yeah, you're just crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ja, ich meine, einige der Dinge, die da sind, sind einfach so kompensierend. Wenn man sich die Gesichter anschaut, warum müssen sie die Gesichter auf Mars photoshoppen, wenn es hier nichts zu sehen gibt? Es wird beobachtet, dass sie die Gesichter photoshoppt haben und es verändert haben. Und sie sagen uns, dass wir nur Dinge sehen.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Das ist das, was sie an der Gen-Pop tun. Sie sagen einfach, ihr seid verrückt.
Matt Beall Limitless
Billy Carson discusses the SARS project, Ancient Egypt, UAPs, & more | #53 Billy Carson
Ja. Ja, und es gibt Beweise von Ozeanen auf Mars in der Vergangenheit, ist das richtig?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hunting the FBI's Most Wanted Fugitives (ACTIVE BOUNTY)
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hunting the FBI's Most Wanted Fugitives (ACTIVE BOUNTY)
Yeah, nice.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hunting the FBI's Most Wanted Fugitives (ACTIVE BOUNTY)
Oh, my gosh.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, I don't need this information. I don't need this information. But they do need to know about, oh, this girl's husband cheated and that the wife killed her and her son.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He's not scot-free.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, I mean, it's hard because I've listened to all of Janair's video diaries. She left... So like tens and tens of video diaries that her husband found and I listened to them and they are so heartbreaking because it's hard to hear a murderer kind of justify herself or try to justify herself.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But there's also the added layer of this woman was in a 25 year marriage and she thought she was deeply in love. Like she was like, this is the love of her life. Huh?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Exactly. And so I think for her, it was easier for her to think about. I am going to take away everything that could make him happy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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rather than i'm going to take away his life because i think she loved him too much to kill yeah but wanted to hurt him in a way that would last forever and i hate to say it but i feel like this is a pretty common thing in society no matter what gender you are like if you i've seen guys watch their girlfriends talking to another guy and the guy immediately is Hey, what are you doing?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like back away from my girl. And she's like, I was actually just going to like grab a, you know, I was going to the bar to grab a drink and this guy started talking to me. But I think it is a lot easier to blame the person who you feel is a threat to you than the person that you love.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, that's true.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I know. This is a big problem that I have with, I'd say, my female friends in general. Even myself, when I was cheated on at 18, I was a kid, but... It was like you hated the girl. You hated the other person because it was like, how dare you do that when in reality, like I should just hate him, which I learned later.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But that is it's an interesting first instinct that a lot of females I've noticed have of I do.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I would want to push back on that just a little bit because I do find that it's common practice.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, like that girl, like she didn't care about me and like I shouldn't expect her to care about me. I should be pissed at my boyfriend or my husband. Like, yeah, but but I get that of like, but I love him so much. I don't I don't want I'm going to project my that hate onto someone else.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Absolutely been there. I would rather be bad at like the seven girls that my boyfriend cheated on me with than my boyfriend who cheated on me. It doesn't make any sense, but when you're in it. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I think it's so hard because it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing to be like the person I love that loves me. She like, you don't want to be like, oh, I'm, I'm done. Like he lied to me. I didn't see that. Like that's harder to deal with then. Well, fuck that bitch. Like, you know what I mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I know people are love is the most complicated part of being human. I agree. It's stressful. Let's cut it out. Let's just stop.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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We should just marry our friends.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, I think that would be too hard to.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I'm going to marry. I'm going to staple. Cut out romanticism. Yeah. Like we're partners financially. And that's it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, I mean, we definitely have, you know, psychologists and lawyers come on, different attorneys from the case. Yeah, but we try to get as many different opinions about it and perspectives as possible in order to get as much detail, too.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So we're lucky where we have a team and it was a TV show before. But the thing about this podcast is that it's all online, right? So all of the crimes have to be from like the past 10 years, basically. And... Whereas other true crime podcasts, you know, they can go to the 70s or the late 80s and like just find they have just so much just a treasure trove of crimes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Whereas with us, it kind of has to be a little more delicate because they're very recent. And yeah, so we're kind of always have our eyes and ears out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Which, Jillian, you just explained that so much better than I did right when we started the podcast. Like, cut that out because that was terrible. Not when you said what I said, but exactly. We are provided the stories of these people's tragic murders. But at least for me, I was not a person who consistently listened to crime podcasts. I'd be more likely to listen to survival podcasts.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Somebody who was like trapped in the wilderness for three weeks or survived being stabbed. Like I just like I need something hopeful.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And so our podcast, we really try to differentiate ourselves of having a slightly more NPR-esque approach with having, you know, as we discussed before, people from the actual crime speaking or having other people with different expertise coming in while still having the conversational element involved.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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you know, telling the story rather than coming in and like, this is something that happened 60 years ago and this is really fascinating to us. Like, no, we really want to make sure we're coming from a place of what can we do to help keep our listeners safe.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You're like, I'm a dude in a soundproof room.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So brave.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Especially because... Yeah. Yeah. You know, Jillian and I are the experts. We are the ones sharing the story with the audience. And we are weighing in essentially in our goal is to weigh in in real time. So we can give our thoughts as to what we would do differently, what we want to do differently.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yes, yes. And I was going to make a point where If even one person is listening to our podcast and is like, oh, I'm about to go on a trip. Maybe I shouldn't post the Airbnb I'm at. Or, oh, I know that the person I'm with is married. Maybe I should end this. If one person can listen to these and change their life in the slightest way just to be a little safer, then we did our jobs. 100%.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's good.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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yeah I've never thought about it in the other direction because I'm always thinking what if something bad happens to me on vacation and then no one knows that I'm there but yeah I guess I do see the other thing maybe not wanting to publicize that you're gone yeah I mean I think there's a difference between let me text my friends and tell them I'm gonna be gone can you water my plants or something and posting on Facebook or Instagram all of your followers being like I'm in Hawaii and my home's empty like
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They go to a baseball game. He gets drunk. They go back to her place. And the next morning, her car and her are missing. But her phone, purse, wallet, everything's at her house. This guy that she had been dating for a month was homeless, an alcoholic. got drunk, killed her, drowned her in her bathtub, chopped up her body.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I think the problem is that people want to share everything immediately and get the likes and the views and they love it because it boosts our serotonin and now we're just addicted to it. And I think that addiction feeds our urge to post immediately when we really don't have to. You can still get those views. You can still get those likes if that's what you're chasing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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when you post them when you're back like we i think we are so used to immediate gratification now that um we just need to realize that it doesn't matter social media can be fake you can pretend that you were on your vacation last weekend now like it's okay yeah um yeah i was gonna say i'll i'm constantly looking at like the youtube like um
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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We've been doing that at my house. If we're watching three together, we'll be like, be present. Be present.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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their own future to keep ourselves safe rather than trying to present this as something that we are incredibly knowledgeable about and know what, what could have been, you know, submissives done where you're sharing the story.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And I was like, you're right. Unless they found the piece. Oh, my chest. There's a lot of people in it. That's a lot like, then you want to know who are they?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It's hard. I know it's hard. It's hard to not look at it first thing too when you first wake up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Because it can ruin your whole day. You could wake up, see one text, and be like, oh my God, anxiety.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Wave. I would not know. I've not memorized the terms about this in any way. But whatever you wake up with your nervous system, whatever state that you're in within the first five minutes of waking up, is how the rest of your day will go. Because your body has to fight to regulate from that moment on.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Even if you give yourself five minutes to just deep breathe in the morning or just stretch in the morning, like something to regulate yourself before you dive into social media is apparently really beneficial.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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it's you gotta try it's you like before i'm stretching i used to do it but i would wake up with so many text messages and i feel like as a person who i feel like a lot of my friends go to me for emotional support because i love talking about feelings so i do the same i will wake up with like seven text messages of people saying please call me the moment you wake up i just like i had a really bad night and i'm like
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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OK, I have to do this, this, this and this and this today. But I have to call this friend, this friend and this friend. And they'll be mad at me if I don't make time for them. But I have to make time for all. I was like, no, that's not going to work.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And then it's like five o'clock and you haven't called them yet. And you're like, oh, my God. And then they're mad at you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And they're like, my phone. No one sees me. My phone. You will not hear from me until 938. Unless you're paying me. I don't feel bad. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I literally saw a commercial yesterday. It was for a car company. I can't remember what car. But it was like four guys in the car. One's getting married and they're like his groomsmen. They're on the way to his wedding. So they get in the car and like his best man's driving and he's in the passenger seat. And they're like, oh, this will be so fun. Then he's like, do you have the ring?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And his best friend's like, yeah, of course. He's like, OK, cool. And then he like goes on his phone. Then he goes on his phone for a second, then puts it down, and then all the guys in the car get a text. It's a group chat saying, I love you guys. And then they're like, oh, buddy. And they go and like pat his shoulders up. And I'm like, wait, you couldn't say that?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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How did you have to text them in the same time? That's so sad. That's so sad. Who else have been surprised how many of my guy friends are the ones texting me in the morning? And it's because they don't want anybody else to know. It's like, because you're so right. They would never go to their other guy friends about it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's a good friend. that's a really good friend comfortable doing that again so funny um oh god he he kills me um
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You need to be more vulnerable with that, Brent.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oh, okay, just kidding. Me and your wife are not the same.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I'm sorry. Come on. I love to have sad days.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oh, my gosh.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, it's a very male-dominated field. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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What does she feel about this missing submarine?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I think they have like 20 hours left of oxygen.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yes, I'm born and raised in L.A. Courtney's from Michigan. And we met in college together. And then I actually so I met my murder online started as a TV show. And I was actually one of the reenacting actors on said TV show. And about a year after I filmed my episode, which was actually Meredith's episode, I was the reenacting actor for playing Meredith.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, and like now the only thing that they can do is like hear for them. So just hoping that they're like banging on it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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what yeah we have to find them like whales find each other i'm not so i don't i you i don't need any adventure in my life they paid 250 000 each and there's a father and a son that's one family half a million dollars dying in the ocean under the and the worst case scenario is that they're trapped in the titanic they're they made it all the way down Well, it's at the bottom of the ocean.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oh, my God. Contact an hour and a half into an eight-hour voyage. So they could have made it down there. We have no idea. We don't know. I mean, we don't know. But the worst scenario is they went down there. They were like, oh, well, let's just look anyway. And then got trapped, and now they're... Dying where? Thousands of people dying.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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See, this is the kind of thing. I'm opening my phone because that gives me so much anxiety. I'm like, I need to breathe before that pops up, that Google notification pops up. I can't handle it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I don't need to go to the ocean. I don't need to climb Mount Everest and see all the dead bodies that I pass. I just don't need to do those things.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I also don't really need to get on a roller coaster. I don't need to bungee jump. That's just me. I like those things. My perfect adventurous day is trying a new food and getting a massage. That is what I need from life.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Not, like, not even a thought. Also, my friends aren't allowed to do that either. Like, if I have a friend who tells me that that's something that they want out of their lives or to go to outer space and, like, it was so nice knowing you, but I can't have second-hand anxiety thinking about where you're at. I can't. Like, I can't. I can't do it. You can't really do anything, though.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Don't ever change your mind in that place.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I don't do that either. Me either. It's not happening for me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Come here.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I can tell you a funny story really quick. Courtney and I have been talking about how parents will put, it's graduation season, right? All these parents on front lawns are putting up banners being like, congratulations, Mikayla, on graduating from this specific high school and going to this specific college. It's like, oh, so now they have your child's name School, address, photo, awesome.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And my mom listened to an interview that we did talking about that and just sent me the banner she made for me doing the exact same thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, I was like 17, 18. I was like, what, nine years, eight years? Yeah. Oh my God. Your interview reminded me that I made a banner for your graduation, not knowing that it could be unsafe when I posted it on social media. And I'm like, yeah, I don't think any of us thought about that in 2016. Yeah. I don't think people are thinking about it now. Yeah, exactly.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You're a good person if you're not thinking too deeply about what you would do with that information.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, I mean, you're not, you know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Not, no, not yet.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And so about a year after I filmed that, I was reached out to because they wanted to take the podcast in a different direction.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I don't know why. I feel like that was the fact that I registered when we were meeting last week, and then this week I just... Yeah, I did like 13 years in federal prison for bank fraud.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah. To be blunt, you caught people, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Respect. That's cool. I mean, like, it's banks.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I used to shy away from that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And I think it definitely applies.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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and um they wanted it to just be less npr more conversational a little bit of banter and i said i have the perfect person and it is courtney bell and she is absolutely fantastic and she's just been a joy to be a partner with it's been i hate to say fun because it's really hard stories but to go through this i wouldn't want anyone else by my side
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, they're going to Google you to find out your Zodiac sign. So, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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for regarding coming up they're just gonna be like wait this is not just like zodiac but maybe you're still a perfect match and it's worth sticking around well listen i know i oh i am but i met my wife you tell her when you first met her she figured it out because we met in the halfway house oh oh right she gets she had just done five years in federal prison
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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We, I mean, we were in theater school together. So I feel like part of being in theater school together is you're thrown into a massive, you know, having 80 friends all in one day. So I can't remember the exact day that we met because Jill is two years younger than me. But I feel like we had an instant connection right when we met.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah. So you did 13 years of prison. You don't need someone to write more on it. Like that's not.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, I'm interested to hear your perspective because you didn't grow up with dating apps. You experienced it before and you experienced after. And like you're a man. So most of like what I hear from dating apps is like from my female friends. I'm curious to, yeah, to hear what you thought.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And the idea that...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. Like, the right person won't care. Or the right person will know how to handle it. Yeah, I mean, I've not had luck on dating apps at all.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah. I want to check in because, Jillian, you had a meeting at 1. I don't know if you saw my text. My phone, my call got canceled. Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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out there like and and Jillian is truly one of the most talented actors I have ever seen perform in my life like look her up you guys and watch her things and follow her um so I was really drawn to her because I was like this is a person that I can learn from you know so I was so grateful when she reached out to me just so we can have something else to work on together yeah
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So it's my client. My client cancer. But yeah, the scary thing is that a recent statistic showed that 10% of sex offenders use dating sites. So that's something because it's not like you're on Hinge and it says drinking, yes, smoking, no, conviction, Ellen, and it's just they don't specify.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, yeah. And also these are like only the sex offenders that have admitted to using dating sites. So that statistic is probably a lot higher. Not a lot higher, but significantly. So, yeah. And one of our newer podcast episodes, it speaks about a woman who was divorced. She was 40 years old, had three kids, and she joined a dating app.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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She joined OkCupid and started dating this guy and dated him for a month. They were actively seeing each other. They go to a baseball game. He gets drunk. They go back to her place. And the next morning, her car and her are missing. But her phone, purse, wallet, everything's at her house. So her mom comes. Her ex-husband comes because he's dropping off the daughters.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And they're like, we can't find her. They text this guy that she's dating. He doesn't answer. Come to find out, long story short, this guy that she had been dating for a month was homeless, an alcoholic, got drunk, killed her, drowned her in her bathtub, chopped up her body, and put all of the parts in separate recycling bins all around Seattle.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, this is our episode that's coming up on Monday, and he claims that he doesn't remember doing any of these things.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, and they were dating for a month. And Courtney and I were like, how do you not know? He's homeless. But how would you find that?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I feel like how I don't, you know, I think it's actually... We don't want to victim blame her at all. It's oddly understandable, because you would think that it... I feel like it's maybe a little bit easier in our age group. I find that if I'm going to date somebody, I know...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I have at least one mutual friend, but I feel like it's a little bit different in a different if you're not in the like the young millennial Gen Z experience. It's like if exactly as you were saying earlier, if you put on a fake name and you don't give your entire backstory, you don't put up fake images like you really don't know who's you know who you're talking to.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I have a question about your time in prison. Did you notice that a lot more people that were coming in had crimes related to the internet?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like, oh, I found this girl on Craigslist. Or, oh, I, you know, stole from something I saw on Facebook Marketplace. Like, did you notice anything where it was like, oh, that's a different way of going about that crime that's kind of new because of the internet?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But we were asked to audition, basically.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's crazy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Online Predator Horror Stories | The Dark World of Cyberstalking
Oh, yeah, because you were a person for 14 years. You were like, what's a podcast?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So you just heard the word Instagram and you were like, guess I'll figure that out later.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, because the podcast was already up. It was already happening. They just decided to take it in a different direction. And yeah, and they they reached out to me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Online Predator Horror Stories | The Dark World of Cyberstalking
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Wow. And so no one even snuck them in? Like you didn't even see them?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, I know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, I'm sure there are certain crimes where you're just like, I literally have no idea what you're talking about or how you did that. And I can't wrap my brain around it. That's so wild. Yeah, the technology these days and the people that like, I mean, the things that these kids are capable of. Courtney, actually, we were talking about this recently.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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There's this video on Instagram. Or it was a TikTok. And this guy posts a sandwich. He's in New York City. And he's like, this is the best sandwich I've ever had in my entire life. And I'm gatekeeping it. I'm not telling you where I am. That was the TikTok he posted. A guy duet. Do you know what a duet is?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah. It was a serendipitous moment, you could say.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He basically duetted it and was like, I will tell you where that is. He saw the photo of the sandwich, saw that there was a little bit of a light blue wrapper, and then took the portion above the guy's head and kind of looked at that and saw what kind of building it was. So based on the wrapper, he was able to look up certain delis in New York City that had that specific wrapper.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Google imaged all of the restaurants, found the specific one that he was sitting in, and he was able to say, you are at this exact restaurant, and then he walked 100 feet across the street to sit and eat it at this spot.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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nice and then in addition the way that he did it he sat at the exact table that the guy was sitting at and took the same amount of bites out of the bagel and laid the bagel down on the wrapper in the same way so she just got out
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And so that we can see that it's literally the same. Yeah, it's crazy and it's scary to think what people are capable of because you're like, oh, that's a funny video. But the idea of like a celebrity posting... you know, a video of them, and they're in their backyard. They're like, you know, I'm just enjoying a day. You can't really see their property.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But people are able to look at the sky and go, okay, look at the telephone poles that are there. How are they placed? There's a tree exactly in between these. And they're able to find people.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, I work in podcasting, so I was kind of already in this space. So I think they just kind of connected dots and was like, Jillian knows the show. Jillian knows the podcast space.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yes. It's so good.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Exactly. And those are just Joe Schmoes. Those are always people like you and me just at their computer on Reddit, just like, I'm just going to look on Google Images and Google Maps and I'm going to find everything I can. And it's like, everyone's a PI now.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Online Predator Horror Stories | The Dark World of Cyberstalking
Jilly might be able to make this a good show and Jilly knows the perfect person to so yeah it was a very serendipitous kismet moment and I jumped at the opportunity as did Courtney because this is we're the target audience we're the exact people that need to hear these stories need to learn from these stories and that's
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Online Predator Horror Stories | The Dark World of Cyberstalking
Wow.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Why?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Online Predator Horror Stories | The Dark World of Cyberstalking
They're like, your name is not James. It is.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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How would you get a different social security number? Because even if you change your name, wouldn't it still track?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oh, right. Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right. Because the idea is that someone took their Social Security numbers and they're not giving out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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kind of what we're trying to do is to have it be the audience just like our friends. Like, we have these conversations with our friends constantly. Did you send me your location? Oh, can you send me whose Uber you're taking? Like, can you let me know when you're home? Like,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah. So getting a fake ID, fake passport, fake documents, what did that all cost you?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like I'm assuming you paid.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like, I'm assuming you paid someone each time you had to steal an identity, or did you do it all yourself?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right, right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Online Predator Horror Stories | The Dark World of Cyberstalking
Damn. That's wild. So I guess, what would your advice be to someone who's trying to be safe on the internet?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Online Predator Horror Stories | The Dark World of Cyberstalking
And so based on the wrapper, he was able to look up certain delis in New York City that had that specific wrapper. Google imaged all of the restaurants, found the specific one that he was sitting in, and he was able to say, you are at this exact restaurant, and then he walked 100 feet across the street to sit and eat it at this spot.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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These are all daily practices and we just kind of want to tell these stories to a broader audience because 4.76 billion people use social media. Like about 60% of the world's population is using social media now. So it's just more prevalent than ever to make sure that we're safe and we're cautious and we're aware.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Online Predator Horror Stories | The Dark World of Cyberstalking
So you say like, don't be shameful about it at all. Ask for whatever information you want before.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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yeah yeah absolutely and I don't know I luckily like I feel like people in my generation kind of get it like some guy was like oh can I order you a drink like because I was running like three minutes late and he was like oh can I get you a drink and I was like no he was like why I was like because I like to see the bartender pour it right and he was like oh I didn't even think about that at all and I'm like I know but
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I have to. I have to think about these things. And now there's things that, you know, if you go up to a bartender and you ask for an angel shot, they know to give you water. And if you ask for, I can't remember what it is. I should know it off the top of my head. But if it's like, oh, an angel shot, like with ice or on the rocks or something, then they know to call.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, they need to call the police. And I think that's such an amazing thing that all bars are doing now. But yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's scary out there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Online Predator Horror Stories | The Dark World of Cyberstalking
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Online Predator Horror Stories | The Dark World of Cyberstalking
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Online Predator Horror Stories | The Dark World of Cyberstalking
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah. Bam. Yeah. Yeah. I wish Courtney was here to talk about this because I think what makes us feel so strongly about this podcast and why we care so much about making it good is because, you know, I mean, we're actors. Like, we met getting our BFA in acting at the University of Michigan. So... we know how to tell a story.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's literally our job is to empathize and tell a story as accurate and respectful as possible. So we always keep in mind, like the families are going to listen to this and they're all so recent. So these people's friends and families and loved ones are all very much around. They're all living their lives. So the thought of You know, we just want to tell it as respectfully. Yeah, absolutely.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And I think our team could recognize that we were able to be good storytellers based on our training and just how we come at any text. Even if we come out of play, it's like. How do I make these characters real? How do I make the audience care about these people?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I mean, my best friend last year married her husband and they met on Tinder.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And with I Met My Murder Online, it's obviously a little easier because they're real people and these are real stories that people need to hear and learn from.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Everyone needs to know how to be safe. Like, and to the people who don't feel like they need to be, you need to know how to be respectful. You need to respect someone else's boundaries if they are trying to be, you know, as safe as possible. And you're like, well, I'm obviously not going to drug your drink. Like, calm down. Like, no, you should be respectful and understand what the dangers are.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No. He didn't think that his wife was capable of that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah. I hear it more and more every day.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah. I don't know. Thanks. Yeah. You don't know it. I mean, love drives people to do crazy things.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Mm hmm.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Great. Yeah. You can follow me at Jillian Lee Garner. And Courtney is at Courtney, though.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah. And it's climbing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And I think it'll just keep climbing. But the unfortunate truth is in Chilean, correct me if I'm wrong on this, but it's, we have, it's around, it's over 10,000 abductions happen every year through dating apps and thousands of sexual assaults just in the United States have happened with the rise of dating apps.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So of course, you know, there's so much beauty to not only dating apps, but having Instagram, having OnlyFans is wonderful, having access to Getting apartments, you're getting, you know, new tools on Craigslist. But there's also this other side of now we're trying to figure out how to keep people safe while we watch this thing kind of grow out of control.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, that's true. 16,000 abductions and sexual assaults from dating apps in the past, like just in the U.S.,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, I'd say every episode kind of has something new to learn. He was killed because he accidentally posted his address while he was purposefully posting all of the material objects he had just bought on Rodeo Drive and his trip to L.A., And so, you know, that episode would teach the audience, like, I should not post my address. I should lock the Airbnb I'm in if it allows.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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There's just so many different things. Whereas, like, with Janae Gagne's story, you know, she was an OnlyFans person or something. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. And she like her address was found through gift giving. And so and so it just I would say every episode kind of talks about a different aspect of how to be safe using social media or just the Internet.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I know it. Yes, yeah, I know it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It's one of the top podcasts.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, my podcast, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oh, sorry, you go.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I just, it's silly, but I saw a post the other day. It was a conversation from a therapist that was basically explaining if you are a person who sits down at night and you're relaxing, is listening to a crime podcast or watching a crime documentary.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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you should see a therapist like that is one of the initial things for them that they would be like this is a diagnosable thing because you should not find comfort in stress and that means you grew up in a really stressful environment and we need to talk about your anxiety levels and how to manage them because that is not normal you know i blame i blame late night tv because i feel like
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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When I was growing up, if I wanted to fall asleep with the TV on, it was NCIS. It was Law and Order SVU. It was just like the most brutal murder. And I'm just like... So I think we're a certain generation where it's like we're just so... desensitized to it, I think. And that's even to say that now we can have comedic true crime podcasts. Like, I think that says something to society.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oh, that's self-defense.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's a constitutional right you have. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Interesting. You know, I will say I think it makes sense to me in some sense. Obviously, I'm just theorizing here. I have absolutely no fact to base this off of. But as a woman, you have to be so hypervigilant, unfortunately, living in this country. Like, you know, I know when I walk down the street, when I get out of my car at 9 p.m.,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Even if I am only parking one block away, I pull out my pepper spray. And it's the neighborhood that I live in that I know that I'm comfortable with. If I'm out walking my roommate, the kind of dog, I'm making sure that I'm looking over my shoulder. I'm making sure that I'm not being followed home.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I'm making sure that when I stay in a hotel room, I bring a lock with me, an additional lock to put on my door because I have to travel a lot for acting work. And you don't need that Amazon link. It will. It's like $15 and you don't know where you're staying.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And it's more common than you would think of people breaking into hotel rooms because for whatever reason, I guess it's a little bit more accessible because there's so many people in and out. And so I wonder how much of...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The reason behind so many women watching or listening to these crime podcasts is because we're already grown to being a little bit more anxious and therefore concerned about what can I do to make sure that I'm keeping myself safe in the situation that I would have even never expected would have been dangerous.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Whereas I think men have a little bit more privilege of walking, you know, walking around with like less concern about being taken in the middle of the night.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah. I think it's also interesting that, like, women love true crime, but for your podcast specifically, where it's not about being killed, it's not about being followed. Like, maybe, and again, I'm just theorizing, but maybe females are like, I mean, I'm not going to rob a bank. Like, I don't know. I don't need to know this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I never thought I could get 26 years. That's insane.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
For filling out paperwork. And you put it out at 26. Right. But it's the same thing. It's like, look, bro, I'm filling out paperwork. I didn't break into someone's house. I didn't. I'm not carjacking people.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And I thought – yeah, and I sat there and I thought, like, you've been doing this 15 years. How do you know that – like, how do you not know it's this easy?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Real ones.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
How old were you?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Same, same. I fight it to this day.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
I'm here. I'm doing whatever. I was just wondering whatever happened with, you know, with Ethan. I know he was sick. She's like, what's going on?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
you're a fucked up individual.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
He's showing it to the manager.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Another employee is there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
I still have blue jeans that I'm wearing to this day and I can afford better.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Buried by the U.S. government and ignored by the national media, this is the story they don't want you to know. When Frank Amedeo met with President George W. Bush at the White House to discuss NATO operations in Afghanistan, no one knew that he'd already embezzled nearly $200 million from the federal government. money he intended to use to bankroll his plan to take over the world.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
From Amadeo's global headquarters in the shadow of Florida's Disney World, with a nearly inexhaustible supply of the Internal Revenue Service's funds, Amadeo acquired multiple businesses, amassing a mega conglomerate. Driven by his delusions of world conquest, he negotiated the purchase of a squadron of American fighter jets and the controlling interest in a former Soviet ICBM factory.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He began working to build the largest private militia on the planet, over one million Africans strong. Simultaneously, Amadeo hired an international black ops force to orchestrate a coup in the Congo while plotting to take over several small Eastern European countries. The most disturbing part of it all is, had the U.S. government not thwarted his plans, he might have just pulled it off.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
It's insanity. The bizarre true story of a bipolar megalomaniac's insane plan for total world domination. Available now on Amazon and Audible.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Marcus Shrinker, the money manager who attempted to fake his own death during the 2008 financial crisis, is about to be released from prison, and he's ready to talk. He's ready to tell you the story no one's heard. Shrinker sits down with true crime writer Matthew B. Cox, a fellow inmate serving time for bank fraud. Shrinker lays out the details.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The disgruntled clients who persecuted him for unanticipated market losses, the affair that ruined his marriage, and the treachery of his scorned wife, the woman who framed him for securities fraud, leaving him no choice but to make a bogus distress call and plunge from his multimillion-dollar private aircraft in the dead of night.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
The $11.1 million in life insurance, the missing $1.5 million in gold. The fact is, Shrinker wants you to think he's innocent. The problem is Cox knows Shrinker's a pathological liar and his story's a fabrication. As Cox subtly coaxes, cajoles, and yes, cons Shrinker into revealing his deceptions, his stranger-than-fiction life of lies slowly unravels.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
I don't typically commit crime, but when I do, it's bank fraud. Stay greedy, my friends.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
No.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Yeah. I mean, I'm not trying to be mean.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
He said this could be a $500. It could be $500, $600. Like, I mean, how much money do you have? No. He's shaking. That's what I said. I said, Colby, we can't shake him down.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
He posted it because it's fucking people in the comment section. My guys are like, what was the one guy? What's the top comment?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Can you post it on what he pleased to?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Yeah. Keep me posted on what he pleads to. It's a top comment.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
They really like they start like, you know, could this guy say, um, one more fucking time or this guy fucking I can't hear him or he did. Oh, I like nobody's going to recognize him because what he's got his fucking sunglasses on. Who was this fucking guy's problem?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
I didn't lie to you. We had a conversation. Anyway, so Colby. I told you how this would go. Yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
You can't blur and then cut. You can't cut out certain segments.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Where's my comments?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
I haven't been sentenced yet.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
I don't think they were. It was just fake drugs.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
No, I shut it off.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
And he's a, I don't know what you're here for, but if it got anything to do with pictures of little kids or looking at video or touching somebody, you can't be in this room.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
That's horrible. I want to be in that position. I used to think, Kenny, you've got to be miserable.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
But he was just a hate pill. And he would cocks. And I'd be like, oh, Christ. Yeah, Kenny, what's up? Go talk to that guy over there. Why?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Because he would say, he'd go, he says he's here for fraud.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Yes, dude.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Right. Starts telling me all the papers he was in. All this. He was just proud of it. How much gold he dug up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
One, 18.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
That's it?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
First of all...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Oh, yeah. You're the guy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
That's true. And I thought, you know, like that's not, you took it wrong.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Yeah, that's what I did.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
And I'm like, that's me hitting the gas. And she's like, oh, it's so bad. It's so bad. It's so bad.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
That U-Haul had more pickup than my Jeep. And I mean, I'm not even like, it's not like I'm like, oh, I'm kind of, no. You hit the U-Haul and it was like, you really, I threw you back a little bit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
I don't typically commit crime, but when I do, it's bank fraud. Stay greedy, my friends.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Not a thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Yeah, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
I don't typically commit crime, but when I do, it's bank fraud. Stay greedy, my friends.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
I'm here for a credit card fraud.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Who would do that?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
It was Bubba.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
From FBI’s Most Wanted to Scam Expert | Cybercriminal Exposes Modern Scams
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Celebrity Business Manager Steals Millions from Clients (The Real Story)
I got that on me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Celebrity Business Manager Steals Millions from Clients (The Real Story)
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Celebrity Business Manager Steals Millions from Clients (The Real Story)
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Celebrity Business Manager Steals Millions from Clients (The Real Story)
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Celebrity Business Manager Steals Millions from Clients (The Real Story)
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Celebrity Business Manager Steals Millions from Clients (The Real Story)
$30,000.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Celebrity Business Manager Steals Millions from Clients (The Real Story)
How come?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Celebrity Business Manager Steals Millions from Clients (The Real Story)
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Celebrity Business Manager Steals Millions from Clients (The Real Story)
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak
It's like, bro, what are you? Like, don't you understand what's happening here? And they don't. Oh, man, no, I don't understand. I thought she loved me. It's like, bro.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak
How fucking bad does it have to be?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak
I'm like, what is going on?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak
Where do you live?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Fraudster Flees to Thailand | John Boseak
I was going to say, if you're curious, if you're interested in that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
You're not barefoot and working in the field. Hells no.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
It's buildings as far as you can see. We were there like three days after three days. My wife was like, let's get the hell out of here. I feel like I'm good. I'm good. I'm ready to go. I was like, yeah, me too.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
You know, it was funny, you know, it's like getting out of prison after 13 years and come back to Tampa. And it's like, it's like whole blocks are gone. It's like, Oh my God. Like there's a massive apartment complex and a grocery store and like all this stuff that was there. You're like, That was all old rundown houses for two or three blocks.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Oh, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Marlino's in... He's in Palm Beach. Oh, he's in Palm Beach.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Yeah. Okay. But yeah, I know we're actually interviewing another guy that used to be John A. Light. He used to do a podcast with John A. Light. He's actually coming here in like a few days. Gene Barilla? Please don't ask me his name. I don't remember. I can't remember.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Oh, well, then it's got to be him. Then it's got to be him. He just got out on a probation violation.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
I was going to say, didn't Marlino shot someone with like a fucking, an Uzi or something? Yeah, some shit like that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
The Joe Pesci thing. He thinks he's going to be made. That's exactly how it happens. Walks in, there's plastic on the floor.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
But that doesn't necessarily mean anything coming from that guy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
I'll cry about it later at the funeral. I was just going to say, I've got no reference, but actually prison is the reference. Prison, yeah. First day I got there. Saw somebody. I didn't see it, but I mean, you know, they screamed lockdown, the thing, everybody's going in. I go, what's going on? What's going on?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
And my celly, which I met 20 minutes earlier, said, oh, someone got stabbed on the rec yard. And I thought, I go, someone just got killed? And he goes, nah, they just stabbed him up a little bit. Like, they're not trying to kill. I didn't realize until later that they're not trying to kill.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
you no no they're gonna stab you four or five times to prove the point it hurts you it gets you gets them some respect but they don't want you to die of course not so but you know and and you and and of course i have i've seen people get stabbed and i've seen you what i've seen which is work seems worse is getting hit with a lock like i've been saying i heard those stories it's super bloody because they'll hit you in the head your head bleeds so much so
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
But one time I actually had a guy who died in front of my cell. Wow. He had gone to medical a couple times, complained of a heart problem, been locked up since he was 20. He was like 30 years old. Right. Super overweight black guy. And he's walking down the hallway and he falls right in front of myself, boom. And I look and I'm like, and you knew, the way he rocked back and forth, he's done.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
There's no muscle control, it's over. And my first thought was, because I'd been in the medium for three years, but this was at the low. was that the moment something like this happens, they lock everybody down and I thought, fuck, they're gonna lock us down. I need to get some coffee. I immediately grab... I grab my cup, I step over his body and walk down the hall... Like nothing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Like it was nothing. Didn't realize till medical staff was running in that I thought... And then they're carrying him out on the stretcher and everybody's like, oh, he's gone, he's dead. And I'm sitting there like, yeah, and I'm sitting there and thinking... man, did I just step over that dude's body? You did. And I was like, didn't think... You don't have time to process.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Yeah, I just realized at that point, I was like, wow, you're getting a little fucked up, bro. You need to get out of here.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
So you're still a Bosnian citizen? You're not a U.S. citizen?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
But by that at that point, it just broken off from kind of like being a Soviet bloc country. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Was it full two years?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
So you're in your twenties, twenties. This is, this is your twenties, twenties. Yeah. And you're, what's your legit. Cause a lot of the guys they have, like, like they'll have like a legitimate, like there'll be like a butcher, but then at night, well, I was trucks.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Like they take care. You know the deal.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
You don't explain to me when the feds came around looking for me, I didn't want to be there either. I don't want to have that. I don't want to have a conversation with them.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Because what? Because you can burn it? There's no surveillance.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
I'm sorry. I was going to say, you don't think that he, the guy doesn't like you. You don't think that he maybe put the body there hoping it would put heat on you?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Well, you know, I was going to say was it's it's funny because I was thinking this when you were talking. It's like you're you know, you've got your regular job, but you're also doing stuff on the side. It's like you don't always like to me. I've got two, three hundred thousand dollars in the bank. I'm still flipping properties. I'm still buying properties, renovating them and selling them.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
And it's like, that's your thing. That's your gig. But it's like, but it's, it's not even a scam. It's just because I always have to be doing like, I can't imagine like working 40 hours a week and that's it. Like, what do you mean? What else do you do? Yeah. You always got to be on the move. hang out with the, with your kids and you do this and your family.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
And I'll be like, like I could, but I could buy this house for 50 grand and I can do this, you know, on the side and I can, you know, which is probably why, you know, most of my family doesn't talk to me, but that's the point. But you know, the point is, is that, you know, I had that, you know, you've got that hustle drive where you want to. I always had that hustle drive. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
What is dirty pool?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
And eventually, most of those guys get pinched anyway. So they're not reaching out to you as much as time goes on. So you get to remove yourself from this situation.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
In New York, you might bump into him five times in the next six months. Oh, yeah, you will.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
I mean, I'm not. This is only 17-and-a-half-inch arms, but I was way bigger before. Bro, I take tests. I mean, you know, from the doctor, you go in, they're like, hey, test your shit, and they're like, here, let me give you something. You get older, and they'll... Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're an older guy now. I am. You're my age. I was born in 69. Me too, 69, bro.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Listen, everything's not, you go to the gym and I hurt for four days afterwards.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
You're not 5'7"? No, I'm like 5'6". Oh, one inch. Really?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Put lifts in your shoes, man. I'm wearing them. That's with the lifts. Insane. How do you... So the guy that connected us is Punch. Punch, yes. I've done an interview with him. We're supposed to be doing another one. How do you know him? Okay, so... Because he's got a story that's... Oh, dude.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
The guy wanted four.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
I was going to say, it's funny. When I own the mortgage company, I would have a customer come in and they'd been on their job for five years. They have 750 credit scores. They had their deposit in the bank. You're looking at them like, this is a perfect customer. And I would call one of the brokers and give it to the broker because I'm not interested in this perfect loan.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
This guy can go to Bank of America. I don't want to deal with him. I wanted the guy...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
that oh you don't claim taxes yeah oh yeah yeah the the the seller's giving you your down payment on the side i got to make some the finagle yeah that's the way you do it yeah because you could charge more money you could of course it was a challenge it was fun that was exciting yeah exactly the guy that can go to his credit union i don't want to deal with you you're going to be arguing about interest rates with me i don't want to i don't know yeah i mean that that was my thing too i loved the hustle it was like it was like a high you know like when i spoke to punch a few times
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
No, no.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
The interview was... Like I told you, his Wi-Fi was messed up. But it was the stories that... He needs to come out and... He needs to put us on the map. Okay, Punch, you need to come and put us on the map. He has a great story. And here's what's even funnier. Is that... So I did his interview, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Like we never released it, but what happened was, so, and I want, you know, he's supposed to come down from, come down from, uh, New York or wherever he is, um, and do a podcast. But I saw a, a documentary called I want to say it's something about Spider-Man. They were calling this guy Spider-Man. Right. He was in France. Right. Robbing. And he would climb up the side of a building. Yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Jump from building to building. Yep. It's insane. And the whole documentary is really only about five people. Yeah. They did this whole documentary. They only talked to him and four other people. Well, that guy was probably a gymnast where he worked for the circus. Listen, he was super strong. Yeah. Amazing. His story is really cool. It's a great story. Mm-hmm. But he's got nothing on Punch.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Oh, yeah. Like, Punch's stories... This guy's basically burglarizing residences. Punch is burglarizing... Fucking 47th Street, the Diamond District. Right, the Diamond District. He's going into actual commercial buildings. It's insane. And it... fixing the alarms, cutting through the drywall to get around this, you know, punching through the, going into the safes, the whole thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
And he's leaving with, this guy's leaving with, like, jewelry. Yeah, no, this is leaving with, like, millions of dollars.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
14, 15 at this time. What's going on? I mean, you understand that I hear these stories. Yeah. And some of them have similarities. But what was the guy that had the dog that was in New York?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
It's so funny, too, because I've talked to guys who have done, like, home invasions or they broke into jewelry stores. And it's like, to them, they're like, oh, it's no risk. Like, because we were in and out. But to me, it's like, bro, that's the longest part of your life. Yeah, that's a problem where you talk to other guys who plan it for two or three weeks, and they're in the building for hours.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
And you're like...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
It's definitely me. Listen, I honestly think I talked to this FBI agent the other day, did a podcast with her. And I was saying, like, honestly, the first time I got in trouble, like if they give me a year or two, I probably right then been like, you know what? I'm done. I'm done. I'm going to go get a job. I'm going to sell used cars. I'm good.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
in New York you know what I'm talking about he found the dog and everything remember he like his family like his dad like threw him out when he was like 12 or 13 yeah yeah no it's back then it was just and he was like yeah I was fucking living on the street like I'm eating out of garbage cans and still trying to go to school and it was just like it's insane it's like you know me and my mom we've tried to talk about this and she kind of like you know blinders on like I didn't do nothing or you can't forgive me or whatever yeah of course I do I'm a father now you know
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Well, you're young, dumb, and full of cum. Age takes a lot of it. It does. You get to a point where you start going, is it worth turning this into something? Or walk away. If this goes wrong, I'm going to do this much time, and the whole time I'm going to be like, what did I do? When, you know what, I can just do without. How old were you when you first started? Like in 20s? Late 20s. Late 20s.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
29, 30, yeah. And then went for, you know, didn't end up going to prison until like 37, 38. You thought you were invincible. I thought, well, of course. Superman of mortgages. Of course I'm a. arrogant prick, you know, just, you know, just think nothing can touch me. They're never going to, they're not smart enough to catch me. It's just a jerk off. Yeah. You know, and it's funny.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
You said, do I regret every once in a while? Y'all talk to somebody and they're like, you, you heard, well, no, cause it makes me the person I am today, bro. Come on, man. I, I did 13 years.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
The animosities.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
This is up there?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
It just sounds fake. It generalizes. It's very general.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Yes, yes, yes, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
I would say when you're you know, what I think a lot of people don't realize is like when you're you're growing up and you see all the people that have status and money and respect.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Yeah, yeah. It's very laid back. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
It's like the Truman Show. It's beautiful here.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
But you're so far back here. There's nobody coming back here to do anything.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
No, that's what I'm saying. You don't need a gate because nobody comes back. If you don't live back here, you're not coming back here. Yeah, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Well, listen, you feel good about that? Do you think of anything we didn't cover?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
are criminals always then that's what you go for like if you grew up in an upper middle class neighborhood and all those same people were doctors and lawyers well then you you want to emulate them of course but of course everybody that you're seeing surrounding you well it all started with that guy that my mom brought home right um you know i'm gonna say straight up the guy's a piece of shit i mean i've ran into him after you know um i'll get into that later but you know i've i stood up to him
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
It's a lot of money, but you're still going paycheck to paycheck.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
All right. All right. I was hoping we were going to leave it off with the guy opening the door and saying, I forgive you. I understand. And you guys were going to have a big hug. And it didn't work out that way. If it was me, I would have did the same thing. Like, I'm waiting for the thing. And I was like, yeah, that's not worth ruining this. This is horrible.
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Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Yeah. I like Florida. I think the difference is that I think when, when people do come down from vacation and when they see it on TV, it's totally different. It's totally, it's not Florida is basically like Georgia or South Carolina. Yeah. It's yeah. you know, there's cow pastures and of course, you know, dairy farms and there's farms and there's orange grows in there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Everybody sees the beaches and the Miami and that that's not it's no, it's not five, 10% of Florida. It is. It is. Pick up trucks.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Yes, yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Mafia Life Exposed: Beatings, Snitches, and Survival
Um, compared to New York, it's this, this, it's so much country. It is. And I'm like, I only in the last year or two even went to New York. Uh, when my wife and I went up there to be filmed by some, uh, for some TV program, listen, even seeing it on TV, I, I was unprepared for how massive New York is. You should have seen both of us sit in the back of this Uber.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
if i do this i'm gonna take enough money so that i won't have to ever come back i'm gluing on fake beards wearing sunglasses and these crazy disguises pulled out of the bank and took off and i turned again and the car turns again as well
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
um he told me about the bank um you know I said I want to see it take me to it so he take me to the bank um I was trying to see what the people were doing because it looked like they had to be buzzed in I was like they got to be buzzed in the first bank I did was the one on Hillsboro in Havana I think it was Florida Bank or something similar to that. It wasn't a big name brand bank or big branch.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
It was just like an independent, a small bank. But anyway, you had to be buzzed to get in. I'm like, man, look, I don't want to do no bank. You got to be buzzed to get in. What about you got to be buzzed to get out? He's like, no, no, no, I've already been in. You don't have to worry about that. Once you get in, you're like, are you serious? He's like, yeah, bro, man, it's going to be easy, man.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I was like, fuck it, let's do it. So I was like, I'm going to get the cars and everything. And then I was like, I get the scraps and I get everything else. You know, we're going to handle this. So we picked a day, which was going to be on a Friday.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And we picked that day because we felt like that's the day that the most money would be in the bank, in the tellers, because Friday is normally check cashing day. So, you know, we felt like that would be the best day to do it. So I pick him up around – 10, 10.30 or so.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I wanted to make sure I'm around there hitting the bank around, like, right before lunchtime when I feel like people was going to come and be doing their thing, getting the check cash, and it was going to be the most amount of money in the tellers at that time. So I picked him up. We go get our first vehicle, you know, a stolen vehicle that he used a screwdriver to get.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I think it was a Mustang 5.0. It was. It was a Mustang 5.0 with like a hellacious engine and it was all souped up and everything. So we go get in the first car and our second car was a Nissan Maxima that I had.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
we had got from nissan or tampa or something we had keys to it and everything so we had parked that behind the publish because it was in like a public shopping center and the bank set up on the corner of hillsborough and havana so we're on our way heading west on hillsborough right before armenia i got me my other guy
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
and the person who originally wanted to do the paint and sitting in the car with me. So when we pull up to Hillsboro and Aminia, this guy, we already ready. We got the gloves on. We got the mat. We got the straps. We got the bag. We ready. We finna get down. So when we pull up to Hillsboro and Aminia, this guy tells me, he starts crying.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
He starts crying. No, Rob, man, I can't do this, man. I can't do it, man. I'm on probation. I'm on probation with the feds, man. I can't do this, man. If something happens to me, I'm going to go away forever. I looked at him like, dang, hold on, just chill.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I'm thinking in the back of my head, is this some shit? I said, Dana, what's happening? What's up, bud? What you want to do? He's like, man, whatever, whatever you want to do, I'm going to do it. I said, fuck it, come on. I pulled over to him. There was a little Crystal's hamburger right there on the corner, like a million hills, bro. There's a Crystal. So I pulled into there. I dropped him off.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Bam. I said, just wait right here, man. We're going to do this. So me and Dana, Dana grabbed, jumped up in the front seat with me. We pull out of Crisp. We pull up to the bank. So when we pull up to the bank, we got dark tinted windows on the Mustang. So we sitting out front and we're waiting to try to get in because I know you had to be buzzed in.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So I said, Dana, you see these two old people right here? As soon as they get that door open, when they buzz in, he's going to hold the door open. We're going in. Bam. He said, all right. So we're waiting. The people, they're walking real slow. They walked up there. As soon as they pull the door open, they go in. Me and Dana are out of the car. Bam. I'm the first one in the door behind the people.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Dana pushed them on in. He stood at the door. I'm over the counter. Bam. I'm hitting all the tables. Now check it. This is my first bank. It happened so fast, but in slow motion that I can almost remember everything that happened. I can remember Dana standing by the door. There was a little kid trying to run out the door. He kept him from running out the door.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I can remember, even though I'm at the teller's pulling all the tellers, even at the drive-thru, I can remember... the bank manager walking through with just like, with a graceful walk, just saying, just give them whatever they want. Don't do anything. Whatever they want, just do whatever they say. So I'm still handling my business, doing what I'm supposed to do.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And then Dana like, let's go, let's go. Boom. I jumped back across the counter. Boom, we out of there. Jumped in the car, went around the back of Publix where I had the second vehicle at. Bam. See, the reason why I parked the car behind Publix because I wanted to give them a sense that I was driving down Havana because they're going to see me coming out driving down Havana heading south.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
But I dipped behind the Publix, jumped into my second vehicle, and came out on Hillsboro and proceeded to go down Hillsboro heading east. So I'm going to have all the police, oh, they went that way. I'm going to have them looking that way when actually I'm in the second vehicle in a totally different car, totally different color, heading in the opposite direction. So anyway, Greg had a ride.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
He met me back at my house. We counted up the money that we had. And Greg was like, man, I can't believe it, man. You did it, man. I can't believe it. Man, I can't believe it. So this is the guy who started crying at the red light on me who didn't want to do it. Even though he didn't participate, I still broke him off. I think I got like $8,700. $8,700 out of the first one.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Very disappointing to me. But nevertheless, I think I gave him like 500, 600 bucks just for being there. Plus, I wanted to make him a part of it. Even though he didn't participate, I wanted to make him a part of it. That way, he don't run his mouth, he don't tell, even though that was going to happen anyway. After that, I was like, damn. My people were like, man, that was easy, man.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
We're going to have to do another one. So I waited approximately like maybe like three, four months, and we scouted out to do another one. My very second one, I did – off I-4, I mean, 4th Street exit off of Gandy in St. Pete. Man, really nice. I think I grossed like $47,000. I took like $47,000 out of there, somewhere around there, $35,000, $47,000. It was all the same to me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
That particular one there, We were just, I just wanted to do something away from Tampa because it was already hot from the one before. So I decided I'm going to go across the bridge. We went across the bridge. I seen it right there. It was a nice location. It was right off of Gandy and 4th Street. Jumped back on Gandy. Do my little thing. Nice. So...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
We got all the material, everything, all the tools we needed to pull the job off, two cars, whatever, went over there. And we did it. It was really easy. Now, this particular bank right here, what I can remember that's really outstanding to me is that in the process of me grabbing all the money and getting... The teller's hitting the teller's.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I can remember there was about three or four college kids who were standing in line waiting to see the teller.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And I can just remember them saying, oh, fuck, all right, all right, go, go, go, hell yeah, yeah, buddy, go, go, go.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And I was like, damn. So anyway, I hit him, which was a pretty good lick. I think I got somewhere between like $37,000, $40,000 or something like that out of there. And made it to the second car, came across the bridge, across Gandy, and came to the house and divided among the guys who I was with. And they went their separate ways. Now, I... It wasn't like it was something planned.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
It wasn't like that I wanted to make this a thing or I wanted to be a bank robber or do banks all my life. It was just something that happened out of the blue. It was just something that I had been doing other things that wasn't really paying off. I mean, my brother-in-law once, he's like, hey, man, I know this guy got like 10 pounds of weed. He got like $20,000 in his house.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And boom, you know, I know I seen it in there last night or I seen it in there last week or whatever. I like, man, you sure, man? So I used to do little things like that. And it wasn't paying up when I got there, man.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
tear the fucking house up do whatever I had to do to try to find it wasn't there so I had to end up fucking getting steaks out the fridge or fucking lobsters or brand new Jordans or Nikes or something just to make up for the time that I was spent trying to find this money which wasn't there so I just got tired and I said to myself man you know what I'm putting my life and freedom and jeopardy
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Going to all these places that ain't paying out. I need to do something that I know it's going to be money. It's there. That's their job to have it there. And that's what made me decide to. If I'm going to do something, I got to do it where it's at. If I'm going to take this risk, I got to make sure it's worth it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So that's why I was like, you know, I'm not messing with no more of these petty drug dealers, these bitches don't got shit. I'm going to go right where the money's at. So I had did that for a while and end up by my fifth bank. I wanted to do something big. I wanted to not take over the bank because I still was on a time limit, but I wanted to get the most.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And this was the first time I ever used two people, two guys to go over the counter. It always was me. Because I know what I'm looking for. I'm moving rapidly. I don't want no problem. So I always was the one to get the money. But this time I wanted to use two because I felt like I'm going to get double the amount. So I scoped out this one bank.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
It was like on Lineball and Anderson Road or somewhere down there. I think it was like Bank of America. No. Whatever it was, it doesn't matter. So I felt like it was a pretty good apartment complex set across the road. I can put my second car there. I can make it look like I'm going this way.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I can pretty much do the same thing and give them the illusion that I'm heading in one direction when I'm going to the other one. So I got my crew together. We got all the vehicles and things that we was going to need to be able to pull it off successfully. And we headed that away. Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So when we got there, pull up in the driveway and the parking and right in front of the bank, we was in a minivan. And the reason why I started using minivans, because it's easy for you to be able to change your clothes, stand up in the back of it, change your clothes. And, um, do what you have to do without being seen, sliding door, easy access to get out. You have multiple people.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So it was easy to start trying to climb across seats and cars. So we always use minivans for our first vehicle. So when we pulled up to this bank, which was like approximately like 930 in the morning, it was really nice. So when I Pulled up to the front of the bank and decided this was the time to go in. I was the first person through the door on the counter.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
When I jumped over on top of the counter, there was money scattered all over the counter. And what I figured and I found out is that Wells Fargo had just... Made a drop off at that bank and the ladies was counting the bills and they had it all on the counter laid out. So on top of the counter, I'm on the counter with my bag, just getting all the bills off the counter.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So I had another person also with me getting money while I had the other two people holding people at bay. We're getting the money. We're getting the money. We're getting the money. This guy's getting the money. I jumped down because I got everything off the top of the counter. Now I'm hitting the drawers. We're getting the money. We're getting the money. Boom. My guys say it's time to go.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
We jump over the bank across the counter to head out, to proceed outside the bank. And when we got back in the van, I'm the driver, always the driver. I pulled to exit from the bank on to Anderson. I was heading down.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
south so i was making a right on the ends and i was going to make a really quick once i made that bin out of that out of the um view from the bank they couldn't see me once i made that bin i was going to dip into the apartment complex real quick and change it to my second car soon as we pulled outside the bank the guy who went across the counter with me was sitting in the front seat he
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
As soon as I went to make that turn, I just seen inside of the car, he had took a WADA 20s, which was approximately like $2,000, if I'm not mistaken, $2,000 or $5,000, something like that. He took a WADA 20s that had a dye pack in it, and he shoved it in his pants. He was trying to cup me. He was trying to keep, steal from us. He was just trying to get that for himself. But
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Little did he know that that was a dye pack that blew up in his pants. And he was over there sitting while I'm driving, trying to get away from the bank. We just robbed his bank. This guy's sitting there like, oh, what is fuck? Look what I want. I'm like, what the fuck? I was like, pull it out, pull it out. And he had a bunch of burned up 20s and smoke coming out. I said, throw it out the window.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So I rolled him in the down. He threw it out the window. I'm like, damn, what happened? How the fuck did that happen? And he was like, man, I just grabbed it and I just put it there because my bag had filled and I just put it in my bin and put it right there. I was like, oh, don't worry about it. Okay, that's right. We went to the second vehicle.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I'm thinking, I was like, this motherfucker was trying to cuff a whole stack of 20s and the shit blew up in his pants. And the first thing I told him was watch out for the 20s, especially the ones over to the far left. Most of the time it's going to be a die pack. And he grabbed it not paying attention and it blew up in his pants. But anyway,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
we got out of there, which was a nice day because it was, it was, it was, you know, substantial amount of money that was laying on the counter. So I probably ended up with like 50, 60 grand from there. Um, went back to our house, uh, hideout and, um, divided it amongst the four people who participated in the bank robbery. So, um,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
As time went, I had enough money for a period, for a long period of time that I wasn't really worried about doing anything for a minute. I was just chilling out, just doing my little thing, selling a couple little sacks of weed here and there, and just trying to stay out of the way, stay out of trouble. And one day, maybe like, I don't know, six, seven months later,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I had someone come up to me, and he said, hey, man, I know these guys who want to rob an armored car. And I was like, man, shit. An armored car? I was like, I ain't really interested in doing an armored car until he told me, man, the guy that works on the car, he's going to be real easy. He works for the company. I was like, for real? Oh, shit. Okay. I want to talk to him. Let me talk to him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So he brought him over. And it was like a Jamaican guy who works for Wells Fargo. I think when he brought him over, the guy even had the Wells Fargo uniform on. Something like that. Something of that nature. I remember seeing a Wells Fargo uniform. But anyway, he was like, yeah, man, you know. He's driving a brand new Porsche. He had been taking...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
little individual packs of money from other carts thrown in. And his carts, when he had to go to Wells Fargo, I guess, I can't remember what the setup, but he would tell me some shit like when he had to get his cart, sometimes, you know, it's not watching the way you, you know, you angle yourself. You can slide a pack of money or off for one of the bins and put it in yours.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And you just got to remember which one it is. And he used to like, take the cart, load up his truck, and he put to the side the one he took from somebody else's bin. And then when he go to make his drops and stuff, he get to like a Publix or some type of grocery store or a convenience store, he'll go in the bathroom and hide it into the garbage bag, call his brother up and have his brother
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Hey, man, you got to get over there real quick and get this money. I just put $50,000 cash inside the bathroom, inside public bathroom. I'm like, what? Are you serious? You used to do that? He had did it like three or four times. So that's how he bought the Porsche. So anyway, I said, yeah, man, tell me about the lick. So he tell me about the lick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's going to be easy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
It's like about, you would get it like $250,000, $500,000. All right, then I want to see it. So the following day, he came, schooled me up, picked me up, and we decided to go and check out this league. This lick was over in St. Pete. Now, they had took an old bank and converted it into something they called the money store. And this is a building that used to be a bank.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And all the armored car drivers, that's where they pulled money from to take to other banks, other facilities and stuff. So that's why they call it the money store, because that's the only thing they did was house money and stuff. and load up armored cars to deliver money to other facilities. So he took me over there. I'm looking, I'm looking, I'm looking.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I'm like, okay, yeah, I see the guy come out with the money. So I see him throwing it in the back of the armored car. So I'm like, okay, what would we do? I would pull up from the side, catch him from the side when he got his back to me. So as I'm watching, seeing it from a distance, I'm putting my thoughts together, my plan together. How would I pull it off? Oh, it's going to be two cars.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
It's going to be this. It's going to be that. I need this. I need that. So I was like, yeah, man, we can do it. So we went by head back to Tampa. And we decided we were going to do it. So we meet up like two days later. We meet up like two days later, we have everything we need. We got the minivan, we got the second vehicle. I think it was even a third, we had even a third vehicle.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I even had a particular group of people watching me specifically, that if anything happened to me, if I had to get on the run, that they're going to meet me somewhere. They're going to follow me or meet me at a distance and they're going to scoop me up. I had, I always had my own safety net. If anything ever happened, they watching from a distance, they can scoop me up, take me out of harm's way.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So we got everybody in place. We pull up, we send an hotspot. We see the armored car pull up. I got a bulletproof vest on, gloves, ski mask, hoodie, everything. He got the same on. He's got a bulletproof vest. We have a driver. We're in the minivan. We've seen the armored car pull up to the money store. The messenger. The messenger is a guy who... He's in the back.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
He does all the moving, moving the money, going to the store. He's the messenger. And also the truck has a driver. The driver is the person that drives. He only drives. He cannot open the door, get out of the van. But he has portholes that he's capable and able to be able to shoot from. So once the messenger got the doors open,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
to the truck, he went inside the money store and came back out with a big, like, laundry bin full of money. We pull up to the side, and when we pull up to the side, I was the first person out of the minivan. I opened up the door. I had a 44 Red Desert Eagle, Red Hawk Desert Eagle, some shit. And when I came out of the minivan,
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
The messenger seen me, left all the money right there and ran to the front of the truck. I went to the rear of the truck, stood right here just to see where he went. I turned back around to start grabbing the money to throw into the minivan. My guy, he stood at the back of the truck watching the messenger at the front of the truck.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So when I went to grab the money to throw in the back of the truck, It slipped because of the gloves. It was saran wrapped money in a square about this big right here. Saran wrapped together with, I think it was in some kind of cloth material wrapped first and then it was wrapped with plastic. So when I went to try to grab it, having the gun right here, the money slipped out of my hand.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
That's when the messenger started shooting at my guy. So they started exchanging gunfire back and forth. So I went down to try to grab the money again, and it was so freaking heavy, I couldn't get it to throw it in the minivan. The driver started shooting at me. I grabbed my .44, and I upped it. And to the back of the truck where the driver was. And now, I granted. We have a truck.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I don't know, maybe what, 10 feet? 10 feet long? 9, 10 feet long? I'm not sure how long the truck is. But I know personally that the driver was no more than like 7 feet. six, seven feet from me sitting in the back of the truck. I'm standing in the center of the back of the truck where the door is open. He has two portholes that he can shoot out of. I am standing there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Ex-military fucking, yeah, those kind of guys.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
When I upped at 44 on the first pull, when I pulled the gun from the concussion, from the pressure from the gun, it just started going up, boom, boom, boom, boom, because I tried to shoot it with one hand. Now, the driver is shooting at me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
through the hole and I'm still trying to handle this gun shooting back at him and he's shooting at me through the porthole and we I when when I turned to my right and I seen that the minivan was starting to leave I then turned around this way to my left and I end up dropping the gun on the get slipped out of my hand I dropped the gun
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I ran and jumped inside the minivan because the sliding door was open on the minivan and this guy was waiting for his brother to get in because he was going to fucking leave me. That's the only thing I can think of. He was going to leave me. If I wouldn't have made it to that van, he was going to leave me. At the time I'm running to jump inside the minivan,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
The driver and the messenger is shooting out all the windows in the minivan. So when I dived in it, by me diving in it, it kept me down. It kept me from being able to get shot. But I got shot in my heel. And my buddy's brother got shot in the back of his head, which grazed him. And he was bleeding from the back of his head down. I had on a black jacket.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
bulletproof vest and he had on a white bulletproof vest so i can see the blood leaking from his head down on the bulletproof vest because it was white and the blood was red so i was like damn trying to figure out where he got hit at but it had got hit crazy in the back of his head and started leaking onto the vest so we made it to our second vehicle
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
As well, we was, you know, they were just running down the road. The driver, I mean, the messenger running down the road, just shooting at the van, trying to stop the van from getting away. So we got to the light. The light was red. He want to stop at the light. I like, man, go, go, go. I made him run the light, go to our second vehicle. We got to the second vehicle.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
We changed cars and we made it across the bridge back across. I think we came. Howard Franklin, across the Howard Franklin Bridge. And inside the vehicle, he was saying that he was going to Orlando to take his brother because his aunt was a nurse in Orlando and he wanted to seek medical attention from his brother with a gunshot wound in the back of his head. So...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
All this going on, I make it back to my place. I'm chilling. I'm kind of like stressing going by what just fucking took place. And at the, at the money store, I was trying to rob this armored car. So I, you know, my girl, she knows all about it and everything. And she kind of comfort me and, We're watching TV, watching a movie or something. I get a knock at the door.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I get this knock at the door, and my girl goes to answer the door, and it's Hillford County Sheriff's Department. So I'm like, fuck, oh, shit. So she's like, yeah, he's here. Like, what are you here for? He's got a warrant out for his arrest for domestic violence. And she's like, no, I dropped the charges.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
It was something we had a little disagreement, a little argument, and I dropped the charges on him. And, you know, I'm not holding any charges against him. And he was like, well, the judge still want to see him. They still got the charges for domestic violence. So we're going to have to take him out. But he can you can come and bond him out. So I was like, fuck, I can't believe it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
After what just took place today, this guy is coming to arrest me on a domestic violence charge. So I was like, okay, cool. I'm going to keep my cool because I just had to go along with it. I didn't want to bring no attention to myself. So he arrested me. He take me down around the corner. I think at the time I stayed on like slide 50th Street.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
He pulled into like a vacant apartment complex to do his paperwork. And at that time, he let me use his personal phone to call my girl to just talk to her while he does the paperwork. So after doing the paperwork, we proceeded to go to Orange Road, which I was booked in on domestic violence charge. And I had to go in front of the judge in order for him to see what was going to take place.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So now, that night... I'm going through it. I'm stressed. And I was like, man, I just fucking tried to ride this armored car. This man coming. I don't want to be in here. And they find out it's me. And then they try to, oh, Lord, shit. I got to get the hell out of here. I was like, man, this is not good. So I'm inside my cell. I'm tripping. I'm like... Man, how did this fucking happen?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
After what happened today, now I'm fucking here on the same freaking day. I was like, okay, I'm just waiting till I see the judge. So I laid down to go to sleep. I think I was in a cell by myself at this time. It wasn't too busy, too crowded inside the pod. It was just like a one-man cell. I fell asleep. inside of me sleeping i'm having this dream
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
about the armored car robbery that happened earlier that day. I'm playing this shit back in my head inside my dream. In my dream, I'm seeing everything that took place, me coming out, shooting slow motion, everything moving in slow motion. But it was just one particular thing inside the dream that was going on that was confusing the hell out of me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
What was that noise? What was that noise? So I said, you know what? I'm going to go back to sleep. I'm going to lay back down. I'm going to go back to sleep. I'm going to go back to that dream, and I'm going to figure out what the fuck is that noise. So I somehow lay back down. I fell asleep, and I went right back to that dream.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And inside the dream, I'm seeing it all again, but I'm telling myself I need to slow it down, slow the dream down, so I can see exactly where that noise is coming from. And inside that dream, when I slowed it down, that noise was coming from bullets. The bullets that was being shot from the driver who was shooting through the portholes at me. They were just whizzing by me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And that was that noise that I heard in my dream. So I was like, fuck, man. This guy is right no more than five, six feet from me, shooting at me, but the bullets are going around me. I have some angels. Anyway, eventually I got a chance to see the judge, and I think I was on probation at the time. He just...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
reinstated my probation brought me back in front with the person who dropped the charges against me and just closed the case on the domestic violence charge because the person who dropped the charges wasn't going to testify against me so i don't think at that time state was picking up cases and stuff like that it wasn't just that serious but um
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I ended up getting that case dropped and just ended up finished doing my probation for whatever else. I think I had like a Grand Theft Auto or something that I was on at the time. So as time went by, I kind of chilled out, chilled out on doing banks and stuff.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I was, you know, just doing a little petty in and out things, you know, making a few hundred dollars a day here and there, you know, had a little connections with weed and just doing a cup of sex here and there with friends and, you know, family and people who, you know, were smoking and wanted to smoke. I was just trying to make a few dollars that way.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And after that, I decided to get back in the nick of things. I had this girl come up to me who was my girl's best friend. And, you know, I hadn't robbed a bank or did anything in quite some time. But I was okay as far as money was concerned. You know, I wasn't hurting for nothing. I had this girl come up to me and she was like, bro, I need you. And I'm like, damn. what was up?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
She's like, man, you're not going to believe I had, I ended up having a, uh, um, uh, accident in Ybor over the weekend. And, um, you know, this girl pulls up and, and I, she ended up slamming her brakes and I ended up hitting her from the back, but we both got out of the car and we went and looked at the car and I didn't have any damage to my car and she didn't have any damage to her car.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And we just agreed that it was okay. We were just going to go off. Um, but I found that she called the cops and said I did a hit and run I was like what are you serious she's like yeah man she ended up fucking calling the cops so I want to get my I had that little bit of damage on my car right there I just want to get that fixed and I just want to paint my car for for they won't know it was me
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I said, what do you want me to do? She's like, man, I would do anything, man. I said, I don't know what you'd be doing, but I know you'd be coming up with money and stuff. But I'll do whatever you can do with my car. I'll drive, whatever you want to do. I'll do it to end up to get out of this jam with this car. I'm like, damn. I'm like, man, I'll see what's up. I'll see what's up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I'll get back with you. So I'm thinking like, damn, man, this girl going to be messing with me about trying to help her get some money. And I definitely don't want to come out of my pocket. I was like, I don't mind doing something to get a few extra dollars, but it's got to be the right thing. So I went on the scout. I went out looking around, trying to find something close in the area.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
We had to go too far. And, um, That I can be able to help this girl before she can be able to get out of her little jam. So I found one which was on Himes. I think it was like a little sun bank or some type of bank. A little sun bank or something on Himes right between Hillsboro and MLK. And it was like perfect to me because it had those high branches that was like hiding the building for...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
The people that passed by as the cars going down the street couldn't really see what was going on because they had those high bushes so high that was surrounding the building. So I was like, damn, okay, cool. I was like, all right, let me get everybody up together. We're going to get all the stuff I'm going to need to be able to pull this off. And since then,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I'm already got a stolen car hidden over here. I don't have to use a second car because I'm going to have her use her car. That's how I'm going to use her. I'm going to have her use her car. I'm going to break her off with just doing that right there and then, you know, maybe a few dollars in the process. So I say, look, man, check this out. I'm finna go in and do this lick. Did I tell her?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Yeah, I told her it was a bang, but I just wanted her to wait for me in the spot in my second location. She didn't really have to have too many, too much ideas of what was going on, but I just wanted her to be the second vehicle and be in that location. Cool. So I got my people together. So we went in, pulled the lick off, ended up getting like 21, 22,000 out of there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
got back to where the second car was at, left the stolen vehicle there, jumped into her vehicle, not knowing at the time that when we transferred from one vehicle to the next, there was somebody on the second floor in the apartment looking out the window at us.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So we got in the vehicle, switched cars, got in her vehicle, proceeded to go to where I left my vehicle at before we could just leave her vehicle over here in another apartment complex off of MLK. Got in my vehicle, went back to my place, broke bread, broke everybody off. And everybody went on their separate way. So this is the story that I heard that
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
In the process of us dropping off the first vehicle to get in her vehicle, the guy up top seen us getting in her vehicle. I don't know if he got her tag number. I know he got the make and model, but I'm not sure if he got the tag number or not. But when the police and the helicopter was looking for the first vehicle, they seen I had tucked it over in this apartment complex.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
You had to see it from a helicopter because you couldn't see it from the road because you turn in and go right there. You know, you had to pull in and be searching or see it from the helicopter. They came over there to get the first vehicle that we went up in the bank in, and they were looking for witnesses, people who seen anything.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So the guy on the second floor, who was looking out the window, must have seen all the police and the cops down there looking at the vehicle we had just left there. And he decided to come down and tell his side of the story, so to speak. So when this guy come down to tell his side of the story, he told the cops exactly what he seen.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Oh, yeah, I seen like three or four people come get out of this car. They got in another car. They got in this car and decided to head, pull out and head to Armenia because we were closest to Armenia now. Then we were to Himes in Havana. So we pulled out, made that right turn, and got on a meteor and headed out to the location to distribute the money. Now, they...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
got the information about her car from the guy on the second floor. So when he gave them the color of the car, they're making them all and shit, they started looking for that vehicle. And they found it in the second location that we put it off into another apartment complex. They ran the VIN number, got her tag number and found out it was her car. At that time, if I can remember correctly,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
She, I'm not sure how it went down, man. Only thing I know, they knew about her car and they were on her ass. She called me up and told me, man, these people are saying my car was used in some kind of robbery, whatever, whatever, whatever. And I was like, what you said, like, yeah, it wasn't me. That couldn't be in my car. It's got to be somebody else. Like, you just stick with that story.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
You don't know shit. Just tell them just like that. So I'm like, oh, shit. It's about to go down. So now they got some information about me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
car that was used a person who might have been involved and stuff like that so you already know they're going to be watching so i'm trying to keep my distance from that person and my furthest distance as possible from that person but somehow the person okay so her nephew Used to do little in-law jobs with me, you know, little weed and stuff.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
We used to go get little stolen items, sell them, stuff like that. And he knew about the things I did. And he was connected to her. So somehow he had some kind of connections with the police. He was involved in some kind of home invasion thing. And they found in his house a jacket that he had stole from a squad team member's house in Brandon.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So he was already in the system on investigation, talking to the police anyway. Somehow he mentioned my name. I got involved. So they had been watching me. I didn't even know. So around December 23rd, which was my birthday. So like, well, yeah, on my birthday, I woke up that morning. And we decided we were going to go deep sea fishing out Clearwater on the Double Eagle, deep sea fishing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So I was like, okay, my birthday, I'm going fishing. So we're going to take my daughter and drop her off at the daycare. And then my son was going to go with me. I had my son too, Julian. He was with me. So we went to drop my daughter off. Well, before I went to drop my daughter off, when I came outside to get in the vehicle, there was a fucking large, like,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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white bread bus, like those bread, those, those, um, those buses that carry bread, like wonder bread trucks, like almost like a box truck kind of thing. Well, it was like a brand new one sitting outside in front of my house with, you know, all the other cars and stuff in the parking lot next to my car with dark tinted windows. You couldn't see it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And at the time we were having, um, fiber optic lines put down, um,
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an apartment complex so I'm thinking that these was the guys who was working for the fiber optic and um they parked so fucking close to my car that I wasn't able to open up the passenger side of the door to put my daughter in the car seat so I'm like I'm trying to look into this fucking van I'm trying to look into it but the window's so dark and I'm walking around by the pool I'm carrying her I'm walking around by the pool I'm like these motherfuckers they better be glad so I had to put her in through the driver's side
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
to the car seat, lean over and put her in the car seat and then, you know, get in. And I had to pull out and let my son get in through the passenger side and let my girl get in in the front passenger side. So we decided to leave. We pull out and I'm going to drop my daughter off to the daycare.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And then I was going to get some breakfast from McDonald's and head back to the house to pick up all the fishing gear and head out to Clearwater. So I'm not knowing at this time, the whole time that I have the feds, FBI following me around, I'm not even knowing. I'm fucking, I was smoking that morning. I was high, so I wasn't really paying attention.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
It was my birthday, so it wasn't up to me to be paying attention that closely to vehicles around me, I guess. I don't know. But I end up going by a friend of mine and let him know that, uh, You know, I'm going out to Clearwater. He owned a pawn shop that used to be right down Hillsboro and like Rome. Rome. Yeah, like Rome. Hillsboro and Rome. He owned this pawn shop. His name was Rock. Rockamore.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
A real good friend of mine. And, um... I stopped by and said, hey, man, check this out. My birthday today, I'm going out to Clearwater. He said, hey, man, when you get finished coming back from fishing, just come over here. I got something for you. I said, all right, cool. I'll see you when I get back.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So I turned out of the pawn shop because I live right down the street from where his pawn shop was at, an apartment complex over there. So I pulled out. I'm heading down towards the apartment complex. I pull right in front of my apartment. and I'm getting ready to get out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So I put the car in park and I look up to the left side of, I lived on the right side on the second floor, but I looked up on the left side on the second floor. I seen two white guys with like, they had on the same thing, like jeans and like just two shirts, white shirts. I'm thinking they might be like, um, some cable guys or, you know, someone trying to sell something.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So I happened, I just peeked up there and I seen him. So I put the car in park. When I turned the car off and went to open up the door, The whole squad team that was in that band was on my ass. And they were so happy they got me. They were like, persistent pace. All right. And the white guy's like, hi, how are you doing? I'm in charge here. I'm Sergeant McLemire. And yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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happy birthday and um persistent page we've been out here since six o'clock in the morning we could have got you when you first came out with your daughter but we didn't want to do it that way we didn't want to traumatize your kids so we waited to a convenient time for us to get you so you know this guy you know that guy and long story short i was booked in
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Well, I went to Orient Road, and then they moved me from Orient Road to Morgan Street, which was our county and Federal Hollow facility in Hillsborough County. I was booked in, and I never seen the streets again for eight years. That day, I was booked in. I was charged with armored car robbery and some home invasion kind of stuff that the kid had told the sheriff about.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
That's how they got onto me and then they started connecting the dots and putting everything together. So I was booked in for armored car robbery and approximately six to seven home invasions. At that time, I was like, fuck. I'm never gonna, before I look, I'm never gonna see the streets again. I'm never gonna get out. Matter of fact, the feds came to interview me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They pulled me into the room and they go, you might as well tell us everything you know because you're never going to see the streets again. I'm like, shit, since I'm never going to see the streets again, I ain't telling y'all shit. I'm never seeing the streets again. Ain't no sense in me having to say anything to y'all. Well, we got your wife. We're going to get your wife too. And you know what?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
She's going away for a long time. I'm like, hey, man, y'all do what you got to do. You do what you got to do. I ain't telling y'all shit. I don't know shit. I ain't never seen the streets again. So they left. They were pissed. So they took me back to my cell. I called my girl up. I said, hey, man, look, don't ever don't leave the house. Stay in my mom's house.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Don't leave because they say they're going to get you. They're going to charge you with this, that, and the other. So if I was you, I wouldn't leave. Just stay in the house. So the next day she gets up, she tried to leave. She decided she wanted to go out from my mom's house on 34th and MLK, go to the bus stop and get on the bus and head down to her mom's house.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So as soon as she came out of the house and went and stood on MLK, the feds pulled up to her and arrested her with my daughter,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
took her and booked her in and charged her with all these charges that they tried to throw on me the reason why they did that because they wanted her to tell on me and i told her look man do what you got to do you have to be on the street tell them whatever you feel like you have to tell them you know do what you got to do don't worry about me i got me so um
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
they let her out and she, I guess she was like showing them that she was trying to, she was cooperating with them, you know, you know, telling them so much, telling them pretty much the shit they already knew to try to make it look like she was working with them. And then, uh, I was like, man, look, don't even sweat it. Just do what you got to do. Shit. I'm the one who got myself in this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I'm the one I'm going to get myself out. So when I got booked in at, um, Morgan street, uh, I already know about not talking to people when you get booked in. People try to get on your case. They want to try to get time cut, reduced from telling on you or what you said to them. They got shit. So you do not talk to no one, period.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
You try to refrain from having conversation with anybody when you place in that position. So one day, like my second or third day in there, I think I'm having chow or after chow or something. And I had this old black man come up to me that I never, I never talked to this guy. I don't even remember if I ever seen him before in there, but he just came up to me and he goes, Hey buddy.
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He's like, you, uh, you ever heard of a proffer agreement? I say, profit agreement? No. He's like, well, if you ever did anything out there and you never got called for it, you may actually worry about a profit agreement because if you get on this and you get sentenced for this charge right here, and then somebody out there say, oh, I did this with Rob. Batman was dead. I did this with him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Then they can come and re-indict you and give you a consecutive sentence on top of the sentence that you're on. I was like, damn, really? So I knew I had did like 10 bank robberies. I was like, oh, freak. man, I'm going to call my lawyer. So I call my lawyer and I say, hey, buddy, how you doing, sir? I'm like, you ever heard of a proper agreement? I said, what's a proper agreement?
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
He's like, a proper agreement is if you have some crimes that was committed and they were never solved, no one's never been charged with it. And it have to be information that
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
the prosecutor or whoever they're they're willing to to listen it has to be something they think that's good substantial that um they can be able to crack these solve these cases i like what if i know about somebody that robbed 10 banks because i really didn't want to put me out there right then yes so i said what if i know about someone who robbed 10 banks.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And he's like, if you know about someone who robbed 10 banks, you're going home tomorrow. And I was like, really? I'm like, damn, I'm going home? He's like, man, if you know about 10 banks and the guy never got caught, you're going home. I was like, okay, well, hey, go tell them, whoever you need to talk to, tell them that I know about 10 banks and I want to see what they can do.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So he went and talked to the federal prosecutor at the time. And my federal prosecutor, man, he was a black guy. He was a black federal prosecutor. And I can't remember his name, but I do want to say like a year or two later after our sentence, he left. been a prosecutor here in Florida and went to Washington, D.C.
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to be President Clinton's Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense or Secretary for something. And he came to talked to me and told me what the deal would be. He's like, look, I ain't making you no promises.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I'm going to send two investigators to talk to you in the beginning of the week and if it's something that I'm willing to listen to or something that I think might be good, helpful for my case, then I'll get with your lawyer and we'll let him know what we can do for you. I was like, okay, cool shit. Because at the time, shit, I wanted to help.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
My PSI, my pre-sentence investigation report came back 27 years and I just knew that, look, I got to be able to help myself some kind of way. So... by the black gentleman telling me about the profit agreement was something that I like to see, something I did. I don't have to say something about someone else.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
It's something that the crimes that I committed, if I can use that to get leniency towards my case or my sentence, then cool, the best for me. So I end up being called out That Monday. Now, like I was saying earlier, my prosecutor ended up, like a year later, going to work for Clinton in the White House. And how I know about this is because I was sitting there after my sentencing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I got moved to Brooksville, Hernando County. That was a federal holdover. It was like a CCA, a private jail. And I was just sitting in the TV room one day, watching the news or something, and a picture of my prosecutor came up saying that he just got promoted to Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense or something, working for President Clinton.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I was like, fuck, I can't believe this mother... But anyway... So on that Monday, he sent two agents over to talk to me and asked me about the information that I was talking to my lawyer and the federal prosecutor about. And I told him, all right, come in. How y'all doing? My name's Robert Edwards. We went inside the chapel. They had a seat. I had a seat.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And I told them about the very, very first bank I robbed. And that was the bank where... The guy started crying. He didn't want to rob it with me. I had to put him out at the Chrysler's hamburger and I proceeded to do the bank without him. So I told him about that bank. It took approximately an hour, an hour and a half to tell him how I came from point A to point B, how...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
When I told them about the bank robbery, I told them about everything, the planning, how I came up with the idea, what I wanted them to know specifically about everything that took place in order for me to be able to pull it off. I mean, because the people already said, look, don't hold shit back. We want to know everything. If you tell us or lie to us about anything, we'll take it away.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
We won't give you credit for the information that you gave us. I'm like, well, I'm going to make sure they know everything. So anyway, I told the story about the first bank I robbed. I think I only told like one or two. I think I was able to get into the second bank at that time after I told about the first bank. There was an older man. FBI agent and a younger one.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
The older one was approximately, I'm going to say like 65. And the younger guy, he was like in his early 30s. So when I told him about that first bank that I robbed on Hillsboro and Havana. I, we finished up that day. I went back to my cell and they came the following day.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Now, when they came to get me the following day, the two agents was already there waiting for me outside the door of the chapel. and as I'm walking up with the CEO the younger guy came up to me like he was like oh fuck hey bro man you know I went back and um I I I I pulled the movie I pulled the um the the
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
video recording of the bank that you robbed on Healdsboro and Havana he's like bro fuck soon as you open up the door your first step you're over the fucking counter like so fast he's like man why aren't you playing basketball or football he's like man you're fucking quick you were in and out of that place and I'm standing there looking at him like Okay. Yeah.
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I'm like thinking to myself, like, this is an FBI guy. He's like fucking pulling me. He's like pulling my dick about what I've done. Or, you know, he's like cheering for me, like, you know, boosting on my ego or something. And I was like, wow. He's like, man, bro, you should be playing football or basketball or something.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Because as soon as you open up the door, your first step, you're over the counter, like in one leap. And I was like, I had to do what I had to do. I had to get in and out. But anyway, I'll make a long story short. I proceeded to finish up telling them about the banks that I robbed, how I did it, where they were done, how much money was taken, what I was wearing at the time.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And by me doing that, they knocked down. from a 27 year sentence knocked me down to a 10 year sentence. They knocked 17 years off my sentence by me telling them about the 10 banks that I robbed and never got called for.
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How did they find the money? Where was that at?
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Basic jobs that you would find at an armored car company is the very basic is the driver. He knows the route, knows nothing much else. He runs the radio, and then you have what we call a messenger. He's the guy that goes into the bank. And he does all the paperwork. He knows the route forwards and backwards, knows all of his customers, knows which keys they need.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And he's basically the boss of the truck. And then a third one would be the ATM guys, and they fill up all the ATMs. There's a myriad of other things behind the scenes.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I've never been able to complete it.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I'm going to listen. That guy, Gerald Blanchard, right? Yeah. Hold on. Fraud.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Yeah. You're going to read it and be like, holy shit. You got some good stuff in there. Hold on.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Yeah, they're usually on different routes. The ATM guys usually keep to themselves.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
They have a money room and the, the messenger, he never actually touches raw cash money. Never. It's always bagged with an address, never an amount. And, Right. So you get your manifest in the morning, you load your truck, triple check everything, sign it off, and you go out on your route.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Loomis, there's two guys. And as far as the truck layout is, it's a big F, I think it's a F650 converted into armored truck. I believe so. F650 converted to armored truck. uh, bulletproof glass, um, sophisticated cameras on the inside of when they had cameras at the front with the driver. And then they had cameras in the bag with me.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Uh, and the cameras pointing out the, at the front of the truck to one on each side and one in the back. So, and they're always 24-7 recording from the time you turn that truck on. Even after you get, by the time you get back, it doesn't shut off for like another four hours or something like that. Always recording.
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They're so sophisticated that if I was driving and I had one of these earbuds in right here, It could tell that I had an earbud in my ear and I was being distracted by that. And so it sent back, you know, information to my supervisor saying, well, this is what he's doing wrong. And pretty much people can get rid of enough of that.
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So as far as getting away with stuff, it was real difficult to do that. That's because how the cameras work. But you're at the driver. He's in there a majority of the time unless he has to go use the bathroom. And then he has to ask me if he can go use the bathroom. Of course, go let him. I'll hop in the front seat because there has to be someone in the truck driver's seat at all times.
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And they do send out supervisors to go watch you to make sure you're doing your job. And they'll send them out 100, 200 miles out to watch, see if you're doing it correctly. So after that, Where was I? I was like, yeah, so there's my position, the carrier or the messenger, as you would say. We'd be responsible for collecting the cash, go inside convenience stores, ATMs, banks.
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Also, we'd go into little outlet stores and get their cash also, their deposits in Walmarts also. We did a lot of work with Walmarts. We'd bring down change.
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Yes, pretty much. And they already know. They have a set schedule of when we're supposed to arrive. And there's actually been fraudulent people try to act as Loomis before. You can probably look it up and find a couple videos about it. But he just had like a little vest on. He didn't say Loomis on it, no ID badge. But whenever we would go, of course, we'd have our ID badge.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Definitely enhancement.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And it'd be like on a lanyard that you just pull down and, you know... if you, if you had said Loomis on your vest, it looked pretty legit. And plus, uh, I got along with everyone. So they always knew that they are like, well, Oh look, Loomis is here. Be like, why'd they call me that, man? That's not my name. So it's like, you know, it's gotta get along with everyone to get on their good side.
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So yeah, we'd go get their cash and then bring it back in the truck. Uh, do we scan it in, bring it back in the truck, put it in the bin, go on to the next row from about six in the morning to about Yeah, I usually get home around 9, 10 o'clock at night if I went out of town. Or we got a full day.
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Just about, sometimes later. But a 15-hour day. Yeah. Well, my route, we had to drive three hours out of town. So it was the drive that sucked the most. But during that, on the way outside of town, we'd stop by little places, little convenience stores and stuff like that to pick up their cash or whatever, or cell phone places, T-Mobile. So on the way up there, we'd do that.
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And sometimes, some places, they wouldn't even have deposits for us. They'd be like, oh, we don't have anything. All right, cool. On to the next. And we just had this long list of places we got to stop at. So the whole time I'm routing route, which was the best because they won't always be the same like in order. So I was like, all right, so where do we need to be at at this time?
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
We got to be at this bank at this time. So we got to do these these routes efficiently. I had to plan them all out, kind of like in a route planner and see what's the fastest ones to take. Complete all those. To replenish ATMs would take a while, especially with ATMs that had multi-currencies in them, like 5s and 10s and 20s.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Wells Fargo is one of the biggest ATMs we worked for because we would go in. Each Wells Fargo took, I think it was close. Every time we replenished it, I think it was close to $250,000. In an ATM? Yeah. Yes. That's including, that's included hundreds, twenties or two hundreds, fifties, twenties and tens. Uh, yeah, I don't think they use files, but, uh, I could be mistaken though.
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So, you know, when we have these little cassettes that we take out of the ATM and, uh, take them back to the truck, take the money, take the old money out, put them in the bag, scan it because then we print out receipts for everything. So we know how much is in the bag. And, um, Of course, the driver's watching you at all times. He tries to position the truck closest as he can from door to door.
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Even if it's taking up handicapped spots, they would do that, even though one of our guys got a ticket for that one time, which is crazy, though. But anyways, that's a different kind of story. But we replaced the ATMs, and yeah, about $250,000 worth would go into those ATMs. And then, uh, as I go back in the truck onto the next one and sometimes we'd have like four or five ATMs to replenish.
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And I think the biggest like haul that I had in the morning taking off, I think I was sitting on about, I want to say close to 1.5 mil.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
That's that you, you picked up altogether.
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that's what i started out with in the day that's what i had to deliver and replenish also uh because moments would take a lot of money the old depot would get a lot of money uh so we had all these drop-offs and also there's that one picture i sent you of the big one they had a bunch of ones we took off to the strip club and that was i think i believe that was a hundred thousand dollars worth he built some of the nation's largest banks out of an estimated 55 million dollars
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I took pride in that job, man, but over time it was getting too stressful and, you know, as far as, you know, Christmas coming around the corner, bills are piling up and
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uh they were treating us correctly because we were getting paid as much as a regular cook was getting paid at the time i'm not i'm not dogging on cooks or anything but i could have gone but i love food so i could have gone but it could and you paid the same as i did be the carrier uh it was it's like i think like 16 25 or something like that an hour uh which is ridiculous now that i think about it um how long did you work there
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Close to a year. Started around my birthday. I actually got it written down right here. Oh, yeah, I started on my birthday. I did start on my birthday. That's one thing I remember to try to remember about it. It's like, even though I forget about it. Yeah. Around the time of my birthday, I'm going to say it was my birthday, but around March 5th of 21. Okay.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I worked with them all through the year, through the summer, learned how everything went. It just got repetitive after a while. Then we got to a point where when I was sitting in the back of the truck, you could see my leg propped up on one of those pictures that I was just looking at it one morning.
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It was just making me sick to my stomach just looking at it because people get their heads chopped off for that paper if you think about it that way, which is crazy. But then I had to go back. Well, you got a job to do and I get back in that motion like, all right, let's let's get this day done with. So I got to that point where I was like, man, I'm getting tired.
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I'm not really. I've never really bothered to ask around. I've heard some things, but I've always been that kind of guy that's kept to myself. I'm more like the guy that sits in the back of the room and watches and listens to everyone else. But with that job, I just wanted to get my job done and go home. Even with the truck driver, I was like, will we get a new driver?
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
If I come off as an asshole or something, they'll take it personally. That's what I'd be telling him through the pane glass window. And he's like, no, it's all good. The next day, he's not even showing up. that's how stressful it was getting. And at the end of the day, I apologize to him. I'm sorry if I came off as an asshole and stuff like that. It's just a whole bunch of numbers and stuff.
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And then people just, after a while, I don't know what got to me the most. I think it's just because I was working so much and I'm pretty sure I could have got paid way better than I was. Well, so what do you guys make? It was, uh, they, I started off at 15 an hour, but by the time I was getting, uh, by the time I left, it was 1650 an hour.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Oh, most definitely. Uh, I would clear at least close to 1200 every two weeks. Um,
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And I ended up becoming a messenger and then later a vault superintendent.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So, okay. So I'm saying 40 hours a week. Do you work more than 40 hours a week? Most definitely.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I hit 40, 40 hours by my, I want to say by my third and a half day, fourth day on. You worked at what? 60, 70 hours a week? Yes. Pretty much. Uh, at the very minimum, about 58 hours at the minimum.
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That's where I kind of had a problem with that story because it goes back to how sophisticated the trucks are. And also... This was probably 10 years, 10 or more years ago when his thing happened. Oh, okay, 10 years. Okay, they might not have the most sophisticated cameras. I could see that happening back then, but when I was there, there's no way that's possible.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I mean, what was that, like layoffs? Was that the layoffs?
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I just wanted to get away with that now. But as far as money coming up missing... No, not really, which comes to, you know, here in town we have Brinks. They got robbed, and actually that just looked like a setup all in one. You know, it's just no one's going to know, like, you know, hey, let's go rob this Brinks dude. You know, he's armed him by himself.
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And plus, like, the way it was on camera and everything, it just looked totally funny. If you look up the town, I'll tell you the town later, and look up Brinks, you'll find a video. But I don't think that guy was ever caught.
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Yeah, they had a large layoff, and a lot of people, we were really shorthanded, and a lot of people got promoted. I probably got promoted. I probably should have never been promoted, probably past driver. To be brutally honest, I was really good at being driver. I understood the route. I knew all the safety procedures, and I was really good at it, and I probably should have never went past that.
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So basically, after a while, it was getting too overwhelming for me. And then we started working with these during my time. It was like six months in. We started working with these Bitcoin machines that they have at convenience stores. And it basically turns your cash into cryptocurrency. You can send it to your wallet or you send it to other people.
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And it's also basically a way to wash or I guess, yeah, wash your money, I guess they call it.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Basically turning drug money into money laundering, like laundering your cash into crypto or your crypto into cash, right?
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Pretty much. And over time, especially going down south, there's a lot of them. And it's something you don't really notice, like if you go into a convenience store, unless you're actually looking for it. And so we started working with them and then we're going through the, I guess it's something that just barely started happening.
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So they'd give us some information on a little scanner and say, you know, give us the passcode for that, for that ATM. So we go and put the passcode in.
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uh open it up well so first it shows the screen how much is in there and then if there's anything in there you open it up clear it or you clear it then open it up take whatever's out out of there and put it in one of those bags as like i was talking about uh scan it in on the little i'll just get it in you put in the amount on your little palm it's like a like a zebra one of those zebra scanners that you'd probably see someone have at walmart uh you scan it and then uh put the how much was in there then just throw it in the truck roll out um
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Yeah, that's what we started working with a lot. And like I said, 90% of the time there'd be nothing in them. So I wasn't too sure who was the boss or who was the supervisor for all those ATMs. I tried to look it up, see who manages them all, but I couldn't find anything about them.
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They can. You can buy ATM machines. As far as like, let's say there's some game rooms here. They buy them from, I forgot who they buy them from, but you can buy regular ATMs. But as far as buying Bitcoin machine ATMs, I don't know anything about that. I've never heard about buying Bitcoin machines.
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Well, yeah, right. I understand what you're saying. Yeah, I'm not too sure who you're buying from, but I've heard of people buying an ATM and then just putting their own cash in there. I'm not too sure how all that works either. I'm pretty sure there's some extensive background checking going through that to be able to buy an ATM in the first place.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Well, I mean, they really just, yeah, I hear you.
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that you could probably put on a dolly and roll out with yeah exactly like they bolt them to the ground but i mean you know honestly i'll probably take a crowbar and yank them out of the concrete but most of the time too especially when we don't open them at convenience stores probably the ones you'd see at like uh would y'all have y'all have the uh the wawa there in florida yeah like the ones they have the ones they have there i'm pretty sure those will probably have the same ones and um
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Yeah, as far as selling those, I don't know how you'd be able to sell those. But I never heard of that scam before. I'm going to have to look into that one. It sounds interesting, though.
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See, I've, as far as you guys are just good as mine. Um, that's the thing. I never knew who owned those or who would get the money, you know, like, cause it's so hush hush, I guess. And plus we just barely started working with them. So, you know, I, you know, we go replenish ATM at convenience to a seven 11.
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Well, on top of that seven 11 or on top of that ATM, it says happy state bank or America state bank. Of course we know where that, where that ATM and that money's coming from. Right. But, on Bitcoin, they never said it didn't have no like sponsors.
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It didn't have nothing saying like, um, who the money, who, who is copyrighted by maybe or a trademarks or anything like that is they have anything even on the ATM itself. They just said Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin is something though, but you know, it's, it didn't say with partnership, but so-and-so nothing like that, even on the main screen. So it was kind of weird. So, so what happened?
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Well, all right. So I went into the store one day to check one of them, and this lady, she asked me about it. She was like, you think you can get my money back? I was like, I just got scammed for $5,000, you know, because apparently she sent it to someone for some care package or one or another. I was like, yeah, I have no control of that.
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And there, this whole time I'm talking to her, I'm like opening the machine and taking her money out that she just put in there a couple of hours before. I'm like, felt so bad about that. I'm like, I'm so sorry. Like, you know, it's yeah, there's, there are scams that go around. It's like, you, I gave her my, my contact number to the, to my job and
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I was like, you want to try to contact Bitcoin, even though I don't know who you would get in contact with from Bitcoin. Like, they don't have no phone number on it or anything. I was like, I don't know how it goes about that. And so she's just, like, real depressed about that. I mean, I'd be upset, too, if I just got scammed for $5,000, and it's right there in front of me. Dark.
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Even though, like, she could have took out a gun and shot me in the head and took out anything I had. Like, there's people that kill for less than that. And so I kind of thought about that. And then after a while, I was just thinking about, you know, who keeps tracking this? You know, I was doing the thing, you know, like, you know, this bank controls this money.
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I'm sure it does. Usually the biggest thing was they would lose coins because they have them boxed up, and one of our horror stories was bad rainstorm guy got caught in his house, taking in a load of coin. The boxes got wet, busted coins go everywhere. And they had to go out there with brooms and, uh,
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You know, I pick up this money from other people.
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uh businesses they know what they're giving me so i gotta scan them in but who really no one's there to monitor this atm and to monitor me only thing that's really watching me are the cameras inside the convenience store itself in most convenience stores they would have like fake cameras dummy cameras as i call them and uh they just have like these blinking red lights and that's how you can know they're dummy camera now they look like those black dome ones you've probably seen
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Right. I could spot fake ones from a mile away. I used to install them in a previous job, but that was a few years ago. But the dummy ones they'd have, they'd have like a blinking red light. And so I always knew if they were fake or not. And so I started thinking, I was like, man, just need to, you know, plan it out. Cause we'd get like four or five of those in a, in a route a day.
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And like I said, 90% of the time, there's nothing in there. If there is something in there, there's nothing more than a hundred dollars. So I was like, you know, I'm not going to rush anything. Just see what happens. And if, when the day happens, you know, that'll happen. Sure enough, that day didn't, it didn't, it didn't take long for that day to come. It was around Christmas time.
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And I just took my chance and, you know, went to go check out, see how much was in there. And there was 10,000 in there. And so I was like, yeah, this is my time. So I tell you, I did. Well, when I go check those ATMs, I wouldn't have to. They tell us to carry a bag with us all the time.
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I don't know for what reason though, pretty sure it's a safety reason, but I would never carry one in just to check the ATM. Cause I knew if I was coming out with something, it would be small to put in my vest that I wore. So I always keep spare bags in there also. It was just a case. Uh, so I didn't take anything with me. So I went in there, checked it, looked around, spotted with fake cameras.
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Cause all the time I started, I started looking out where the cameras were and like just studying basically every convenience store I went into. So I went in there and checked it out. It said that it said 10,000 in there, USD. Opened it up, took the cassette out. And right there on the floor, I just opened up the bag, put the cash in there. But I never scanned it in.
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And once you close ATM and clear it, it doesn't print off no receipts or anything like that. So I just put it back in my vest. It looked like I just checked the cassette to see if anything was in there. Basically, just put the cassette back in. I closed it up, left.
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uh so just went out through the day and the whole day i'm just like this is like maybe 10 in the morning so the whole day i'm just sitting there like right on my chest right like there's like i was like man there's like 10 racks right here there's a man that's not owner i'm gonna do with it it's like all these other things i was thinking about doing with it and then um
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On the way back, at the end of the day, I was heading back and I was just sitting there. I was like, man, I'll probably go to prison. I'm probably going to go to prisons for this. Because there's no backing out now because there's cameras in front of me. There's cameras all around me. There's no going to your car before you go inside when we get there.
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And we were always the last ones there because we were out of town, the far side of town. I was like, yeah, they're going to... you know they seem to go to my car like they're not going to appreciate that at all they're going to want to know hey what you got to your car uh and like i said this is like i mean a couple days before christmas so uh Yeah, I just went home, took it out.
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Well, I went to my girlfriend's house and showed her what was up. I just told her I got some kind of bonus or whatever. She was from Mexico, so she didn't speak that good of English. So she just thought I got some kind of bonus. I don't know how all that worked out. I really don't remember all that. It was big, like a big haze to me now, so.
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uh yeah i just sat on it for a couple weeks man yeah i well i got sick they didn't notice well they didn't i'm pretty sure at the time they check everything because uh before by the around the time i got that and by the time i came back to work i was asked they were like have you been checking at atms like make sure there's anything in there i'm like yeah i'm gonna check them all
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Most of the time, because they tell us to check them, even though if it says $0 on the screen to show how much is in there, they say check it anyway. So I'll tell them, yeah, I'll check it every time. I played it off real good. And then I got sick around that time after Christmas. I had the flu, and then I got the COVID shot January 1st, 2022.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
and the cover shot i got apparently it was like the one that kills people whatever it was the johnson shot so i got it messed me up for like it was like a good week and a half it messed me up pretty good and then after that after i got that way that pain went away then i got coveted like at the very end i was like man that would happen to me so uh
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
got covered and then i got over that that took about a month and a half on the on the end of that on the end of that that's when i came back to work and between that time we went to miami so she get her breasts done you're grown up yes at the time and paid for all that and everything and talking about like every all the plane tickets the ubers the food and all that and so
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And it was pretty good experience for me, especially me never going up into Florida also. I mean, like that humidity, I'll now forget that. Can't do that humidity again. But I came back, worked for about a week on my second week back. Uh, they took me to the office or they told me to, um, they're like, Hey, just hold off.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
The manager wants to talk to you, the supervisor, the branch supervisor, the building. And, um, They were like, yeah, they showed me this video of me not wearing my seatbelt or something like that, which I've done almost like every day. It was policy to wear your seatbelt at all times when the truck's moving.
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I would hardly wear my seatbelt. And then they told me to come in. They showed me a video of me not wearing it. He's like, he wants to talk to you about this. I'm like, all right. I was like, you know, just like me, I'm wearing my seatbelt, a video of it. I'm like, yeah, there's something else going on here. And so I'll wait for like another hour. Everyone else already left.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So I'm just sitting there by myself in the bay. You can hear the change machine in the background because they're always just constantly running change and people that go to coin stores and turn their change in. We collect all that, too. So you see in the background, I'm just in there. I was like, I'm going to go to prison. I was just, you know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I was thinking to texting my mom and everyone, you know, Hey, y'all aren't here for me, you know, cause there's no way if that was to happen, there's no way I could call anyone and tell them what happened. Um, why I got it. Okay. I couldn't tell him from jail, you know, just because, Hey, I'm in jail. I'd have to tell him before, you know,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Yeah, exactly. So it's like, I wonder what I should do because by this time I already, already spent most of it. Maybe I had about maybe like two or 3000 left, uh, to sit on that. So I couldn't, I was just sitting there like, you know, I'm just not going to say anything, you know, like I've always done before in the past, you know, when I got in trouble.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Because nine out of ten times they're bluffing if they say they got this and this and this. And as much as I knew, I know they haven't been to every store that I've worked in, especially with these new machines. So I was like, yeah, I'm just going to play along with it. I'm going to act like I don't know and just not say anything. So I just got taken to the back.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
They're like, do you know on this day or this day, you know, what might have happened at this ATM? Be like, I don't recall. You know, I used to hear a lot of cops say that when they're in the court. Like, I don't recall. You know, so that's basically saying, you know, you know, but you don't know pretty much. Like, you know damn well what happened, but you just don't want to admit it. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I don't recall. So I just kept saying that. And then... The guy that was talking to me, he used to be some detective for Homeland Security. Is that Homeland Security, the people that work at the airports?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
No, what is it? TSA? TSA, that's it, TSA.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Well, he's some investigator for them. I guess he'd go and interview people that tried to smuggle in drugs or money or whatever.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
He used to do that in Miami, out of all places, because he had this real thick Cuban accent. And that's where he started out as, and how ironic that is. But he came up here to work here in West Texas, and he was interviewing me. He just looked at me, and he's like... He's like, it was just him in the room. I didn't have my gun on me. They took it off me and everything.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
You know, it's a, I didn't, I wasn't going to come off as threatening or anything. I just sat there like pretty much how I am now. Just looking at him kind of got a bit sly smirk on my face. Not really, but I was kind of nervous. So that's how I hot it is that, you know, I was, I was just kind of like smirk to myself or whatever. It looks like I'm smirking or laughing, but I'm really not.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And so he's like, he's like, Justin, I know what you did. You know, he's like, so you got, I didn't wear my seatbelt. Yeah. Well, yeah, that too. And that was like the third thing too. He's like, he's like, and you never wear your seatbelt also. And I'm like, yeah, I forget that seatbelt always chafing me and cutting me in my neck and all that. It's like all this money can't buy new seatbelts.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And like, they'd be all frizzy and stuff. So like I cut it in your neck. I had to put like a, like a, one of those seatbelt covers right there. It's, it was ridiculous. All the money they got, they can't afford those. And the seats too were uncomfortable as hell. It's like riding on a horse all day.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Uh, so basically just gave him an ultimatum, you know, I wanted to stay the best one, but if what they'd get rid of me eventually, and it'd be in the bag and that it'd be me leaving in the back of a cop car. We didn't say that, but he said, we all would make sure I forgot what he said exactly, but those are along the lines of it. Had to still remain professional either way. Uh,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So as I resigned, you know, took off my vest. They escorted me out. And by the time I realized I didn't have my rod, it was in the shop. So as they stripped me of everything, I had even my clothes. So I was like standing there. It was so cold. I remember it was like 40 degrees that morning. And I'm sitting there outside with my I'm sitting there in tennis shoes, my shorts.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I had some shorts that I brought with me because I changed them out at the end of the day because my pants would get too sweaty or whatever. So I put on my shorts and I had a tank top underneath. There's kind of like a tight under armor shirt. I'm sitting out there, 40-degree weather, no jacket or nothing because they gave us Loomis jackets, so they took that away.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I'm standing there freezing balls with the wind blowing. I'm just like, man, I think I just dodged a bullet right there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So she starts talking about Robin bank and why she wants to and how she thinks it should be done. And, um, you know, one of our dealers had done a lot of time and, um, she was like asking him about it. You know, I'm like, you can do something like that. You really shouldn't talk to anybody about it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Um, but it was something he, like, they almost seemed like they were enjoying like the fantasy talking about how to do it. And, you know, um, it was just going on and on and on. And it wasn't just like, whenever we'd go over to our dealer's house, it was like with me and she'd rant and rant and rant. And I was, you know, I, I was running out of ideas to get dope.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
You know, it was getting hard, really hard. And I was like, finally, like, would you just put up or shut up about this? Like, are you going to do it or not? I mean, I need to get wealth. You need to get well. What are we going to do? I don't have any options right now. And you don't seem to have any either. This is the thing. This has been your plan. So put up or shut up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I wish I'd never done that. Maybe nothing ever would have happened. I don't know. But because of that, well, I don't know if it was because of that. But after that, I should say, is when we tried our first armed robbery. She had me pull up behind a store.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
and she took her little plastic shopping bag and her ski mask and gone and went into the store it was like this wasn't a bank no it was a store i guess i don't know baby steps baby steps well there is a reason why we never did rob a bank but i'll tell you that in a second anyway she goes in there tells them to put the money in the bag the guy throws the bag back in her face and says get the out of my store
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And that's not a good sign.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Right. Simon comes running out, jumps in the car. Go, go, go. I go and I'm like, what happened? She tells me I'm like, yeah. So do you see can you see now that we are not these people like you have suboxone? Let's go to my trailer and just take the take the 24 hour hit where you have to wait 24 hours before you can take it. So you get a little sick. Um, like, let's just do it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Let's just kick, you know, cause that's, what's driving this. We don't have, we are not these people. We don't have to do this. And, uh, Simon was like, well, just a minute. And she calls another dealer that we go to and sells the gun to the dealer for drugs. So that's how we got well that day. And we didn't, of course, I'm not going to say no, I I'm totally addicted.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I was like, yeah, you got something good. Let's do it. Um, And it was enough to last us for a few days. She left me with a little to stay well and went back home. Um, she come back a few days later, new gun and dad's gun.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
This time, one of dad's guns, one of them, one of the many, I mean, they were all basically his, he paid for them all day, but they were registered in all kinds of different names. And, you know, uh,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
obviously his wife had one of her own i don't know how many she has of her own but there were several handguns things that they were just hidden all over the house so which when you have when you knowingly have a drug addict living in your house and you leave your guns unlocked and available there should be a penalty for that you know but anyway the They did. She was able to access another one.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Came back and she was like, no, I want to try again. Like, are you real? Really? I know I can do it. I know I can do it. And so we did.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
You got to get in. Probably.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Yeah. So, you know, we, we do our first, I think it was a Baskin Robbins and it was right before they closed. And, you know, made off with like under $300, but it was enough to keep us well for a few days. And you know, unbeknownst to Simon, I'm like hustling in other ways to get more drugs. Cause I, but at this point I require a lot to stay numb. I didn't want to just stay well.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I wanted to stay out of it. Oblivious. So we do it again. And then when the drugs run out, she sells the gun to another drug dealer and then goes home. And this pattern repeats again. over and over, over, over a six week period, about eight times, nine times. Um, because we could not wake up early enough to rob.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Yeah. There were multiple guns. I don't think she sold every single one of them immediately after one robbery. Obviously, this is a little bit of a fuzzy area for me, but I do think that there were a couple of times where she hung around longer and committed more robberies with the same gun. As much as I can remember, there were
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
four maybe definitely four but maybe five even that ended up going into the ether um which bothered me i was like you really shouldn't be doing that you know those those guns are associated to your family and if they start showing up in you know in crimes that's going to be a whole nother, you know, problem. I was like, I don't think you should be doing that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And basically I wasn't, uh, invited to have an opinion at this point in our, uh, knowing each other. So I was just, do what she told me, you know?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
She's got a, she's got a MO at this point, right? Right. She chooses younger people.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
cashiers in smaller places um she'll go and act like she's going to make a purchase and then when they open the till she pulls out produces the gun and says put all the money in the bag um but she was also in disguise a lot of times like she wore multiple coats to make her look bigger she was already like five nine five tens she was pretty large but it was all this kind of this
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
you know, trying to confuse reports of the description, basically. Some people reported them as male, some people reported them as female in a male disguise, so on and so forth. So on the last day, I think it was like January, January? No, it was January 1st or December 30th is when the last robbery happened. I can't remember exactly. I'd have to look.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
But we had gone, you know, to a fast food joint. It's like a small one. It wasn't a chain or anything. But Simon goes in, gets the money, comes out. We flee. Counts up the money and it's not even a hundred bucks, like not enough to say well. And so she's like, we need to do another lick. I'm like, um, where do you want me to go? You know, like I couldn't say no.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Because that's just at this point, the dynamic is I do what Simon tells me to do and I'm scared shitless every other way without her. And you know, I was, I was trapped. I felt trapped.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I got exact same charges that she had gotten. Right. Um, but you know, as far as where she directed me to go, I, in my mind was like, this is not a good idea, but I couldn't say anything because it was less than a mile from where we had just robbed.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And her thinking was all the cops are going to be over there so we can get away with doing it just over here. Um, and it was someplace that she had decided while ago that she wanted to rob a dollar store. I didn't know why. Um, but she had me park around the corner. And I was facing the street that she, that the store was on and she hops out of the car and turned it off.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
She goes around the corner, not even a full minute. I think maybe a minute went by and I see a police cruiser going down in the direction on that cross street that in the direction that Simon had gone. And Part of me was saying, you need to leave. You need to leave right now. And then the other part of me is like, oh, you're going to just leave Simon to get caught? And yeah, I can't do that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I can't just leave her. However, I do believe she would have left me in a fucking hot second. But not even another minute goes by and here comes Simon trucking around the corner with a cop hot on her heels. start the car, start the car. She runs around, jumps in the passenger seat. And I see a hole.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I mean, I've started the car, but I see a hole appear in my, my windshield before I even registered that I'd heard a gunshot. This hole appeared and then a second gunshot. And I'm like, ah, you know, I like laid down over the jockey box. I don't know. what I did to like the car ended up turning off somehow. I, I knocked it into neutral, but I had to lay down like as flat as I could get.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And I had my head behind the passenger seat. Cause I still had my fucking seatbelt on. So I'm strapped to this car and this cop is laying, you know, shot after shot after shot. Like he was 20 feet from the driver's side of the car and all of the shots were coming at me. Unbeknownst to me, Simon had jumped back out and was hiding.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
behind my car so basically i'm caught you know between his shooting and her potentially shooting and i'm just screaming please stop stop stop stop like all the flack on the that hit my arm that all the stuff on the inside of the door you know the car door was all exploding as the bullets were hitting it and just i mean my arm was black from bruises from that
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Oh, the cop that passed by saw her.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
No, she was around the corner. So it's kind of hard without a diagram. I'm sitting on a side street and I'm about three car lengths in the side street from the cross street. That's where I was waiting for Simon. Simon went around, around the corner to the North and that would take her past a backyard and
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
a burger joint and then the dollar store was right next to that okay she was in the parking lot of the dollar store the cops saw her um walking going walking into the store pulled out or pulled in got out and was like let me let me see some id and yeah i thought he kept you when you explained it you said you saw him drive by like i thought he just kept going maybe I struggle.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
This is why I struggle with telling the story because there's so much of it. It's hard to make sure that I'm covering all of the vital details. Right. I'll do that while I'm talking. I'll be like, oh, did I tell them that? No, wait. Because all of it kind of leads one thing into the next. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And he got out of his car in the parking lot and said, like, I need your ID. I need to see your hands, whatever.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
takes off running he leaves his cruiser and chases her on foot okay right so they both come around the corner on foot and you know she jumps into the car and he just starts shooting now in the police report he says she's fired first but i know that's not true right his gunshot wasn't right next to my ear for a shot to go through the windshield She would have been right next to me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I wouldn't be very aware of that gunshot.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I saw the hole appear before I registered I'd heard a gunshot, and he never stopped shooting. Just one after another after another. I think he went through 17 rounds, which is a clip and then some, right? Did he reload? I don't know. I think there's some drop. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
A 15-bullet clip and one in the chamber would be 16, but there were 17 shots. Actually, he must have emptied his clip because I think one of the shots was Simon's. At some point, Simon did fire her weapon, and that's what allowed us to escape. All of a sudden, shooting stops. Simon's pulling at me. He's here. Are you okay? We've got to get out of here. Are you okay? Start the car. Let's go.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
My car is riddled with bullet holes. I'm trying to start it. I'm trying to start it. It won't start. I don't know what's wrong with it. I didn't realize I had knocked it into neutral. So, of course, it's not going to start. And then I start smelling gas. I'm like, it's flooded. Inexplicably, this cop is nowhere to be seen. I don't know where he went. I'm like, we have to run.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
We have to leave the car. So we get out and we go running down the street. And we see several houses down, a little minivan pulling into a garage. And they leave the garage door open. As we're running, we run into the garage. We jump into that vehicle. I'm looking around, seeing if I can find keys, anything. Simon's like ripped off her fake mustache and dropped it in the garage, whatever.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And we were in the car just a few seconds and another car pulled up behind us in the driveway. I guess the mother and the son had been in the minivan and the father and the daughter were in the other car. So Simon jumps out. jumps into the front passenger seat and was like, you're going to help us. And he's like, no, get out of my car, get out of my car.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Because they don't want the publicity. Right. They don't want that in the news. They don't want to be in the news at all. One of the things I do remember is we had a messenger. He went all around. He went for like five or six stops on his route. And I think there was like $175,000 cash. There was a little spot on the back bumper. And this bag...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I come around his side and I'm like, so I'm really sorry, but we're going to take your car. I'm really sorry. But yeah, we need your help. I'm not helping you guys get out of my car. I'm like, sir, we do have a gun. The most polite carjacking in the history of carjacking. I'm sure I was just like, I'm so sorry. You will get your car back, but we need to take it. You know, we're going to take it.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And I open up the back door and tell the little girl, get out of the car, honey. She gets out. I open his door. He gets out. Buckle up. I look around and make sure I know what I'm doing, how to operate this vehicle. And then we just drive away calmly.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I'm sure he did. It took a little bit of time for them to put together everything. that we must have been the ones that carjacked the car. Right. But that night, like Simon was down on the floor of the car. I'm like, just stay down there. We're going to be fine. We're going to be fine. I'm like going around to the freeway, get stopped at a light. There's a cop on the other side.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I'm like, just light a cigarette. I'm trying to be as casual as possible. hoping he doesn't flip around and come after us. And he didn't. So we were able to escape that night. And that led to the next four days, which were our last four days.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
What did you do with the car?
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
We just left it behind an apartment building a few blocks from a friend's house that we were hiding out at. She was another drug addict and we just gave her drugs and she let us be there. She didn't care about anything else that was happening. She didn't ask. She didn't care. So at first, when we got back, like the next morning, Simon's like, I need to go home. I need to go home.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
You're not leaving me now. I have no car. The police have my car and you're not leaving me now. There's no way. I won't let you, you know, basically. And so she stayed and, you know, she had her truck. We didn't do any more robberies, but we did. We came close. She almost robbed a drug dealer and then chickened out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I had out of state plates. The car was registered to my mother. She had given me the car. So they called her first and then they called my ex-husband, called my sister, my twin sister. They were looking for me. And that's how they found, that's how they got Simon's name. Or like, if you're looking for Sandra, she's going to be with this person. So you're looking for them both.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
All the robberies had been on the news. Yeah. The shootout was on the news. All the robberies had been on the news. And then after this happened, they really started putting them all together and saying, oh, this is a crime spree. Right. We're looking for this woman, like me. Had my picture from the DMV, everything.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Her picture. Her picture. Probably. There's two of them. They're together.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Yeah. So the first reports, they didn't have her name yet. They weren't sure if it was a male or a female. It was after they spoke with my family. I think it was my twin that said, you know, Simon is the love of her life and she does everything by Simon's bidding. And, you know, she, I guarantee you that she is with her right now. And she says this on the news and it was put out on the news.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
big cloth bag fit right in that little nook right and he rode around i think it was mooresville i'm not sure but it's somewhere in western north carolina he rode around for like an hour and a half with 175 000 on the back of on the bumper of the truck just did he stop did it fall off did he stop and notice it or he uh when he got to his next stop he noticed and you know but it it
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Simon had told me she would rather die than have her parents know that she was gay. And I think she saw that police report the night before she died. She got up the morning that it happened. And she was out of Suboxone, so we needed to kick. We knew it. So she was going to go to the pharmacy to get her prescription filled. She made it to the pharmacy, but police had already located her truck.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
It was just a little ways away from where we were staying, and they put a tracker on it. So when it moved, they knew she was on the move. She woke up that morning and she was going to go to the pharmacy. I'm like, oh, I'll come with you. She's like, no, no, stay here. Stay here. I'll be back. I'm like, be careful. And she left. She drove to the parking lot, even at the store.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
She parked a little ways away, went to the store, got the Suboxone. And when she was coming back to her car, she gets into her car and then immediately is surrounded by police or truck. they get out and they surround the vehicle. And you know, what I know of what happened that day is only like what I saw in the police reports and what I've seen in news reports since I got out.
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Cause I didn't, I didn't see any of that until I was released. But in the police report, it said that, um, an officer standing behind her vehicle, um, shot her because she said he looked, she turned and looked me dead in the eye and put it in reverse and floored it. And so for all those years I was in prison, I was like, that sounds like something she would do.
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I'm not surprised that's something she would do. And, uh, was when i was looking looking it up after i got out and i saw a picture of the scene and um she she had cars close on both sides of her there's no way she was going to floor it and reverse it into anybody they executed her but she didn't immediately give up and um that was within a half an hour of her leaving that morning
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Yeah. Okay. Basically, on that, the emperor has no clothes. Right. You know? You go to, I look back on it now, and the gun training we got was poor. You're firing an old, they used a 38 special back then. And the range is maybe seven, eight feet to the target. And it's just huge. It's bigger than life-size target. And you only need to hit it about eight out of ten times.
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and everybody gets to fire a shotgun, and it's a really sad joke.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Basically, they tell you to run away. And if the driver is watching you, because they're supposed to watch you in the mirror, not all of them do, he sees you run away, he's supposed to drive away as well. That way, you lose that one stop, and that's it.
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Yeah, my wife at the time worked. Okay, did you have kids? No, no kids. Okay. What happened was, overtime... you know, the stress of the job and the stress of my life. We'd just bought a house, two new cars, and we're getting by, but just as long as I keep working long hours, we'll be fine. And that started to wear on me.
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And, you know, I probably had other issues from before, and it starts to build up. And I'm getting, I got desperate. And then when they came and suggested this to me. It looked like a way out. Right. Who suggested it? Kelly Campbell and her friend... Chris? No, it wasn't Chris. It was... I'm probably going to get hate mail now for not remembering the guy's name. Chambers.
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I've never really cared enough to dig.
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Yeah. I think – my attitude was it doesn't really concern me. I really don't care. You just wanted to get, I just want to do my time. And I spent most of my time playing softball, reading books. Um, I studied a lot of psychology books. Um,
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And read, I must have read 15, 20 self-help books because I came to a realization that there was something slightly wrong with me and we needed to address that.
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No, I've never even heard that. Even in prison, I never heard that.
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And she proposed the thought, you know, how do you feel about Robin Fargo? And she knew I wasn't real keen on the company. Right. Um, Because we had a superintendent or a manager threaten my job, and I'm thinking about going away anyway. And I said, you know, it really wouldn't be that hard. It's just a matter of what day and...
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understanding that the weekend schedule, it would be the easiest and you'd have the most time to get away. Right. I said, it'd have to be on the weekend. Probably a Saturday would be easiest. That's when there'll be, you know, back then the Charlotte vault had a very strict schedule. It was like every other Saturday, there's a fairly large amount of money in the vault cash. Yeah.
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As opposed to certain weekends, it'd be 98% checks. Back when we used paper checks, back in the dinosaur days. I still write checks.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Nobody else does. My wife laughs at me. I haven't written a paper check in... That would have been back in like 2015.
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You're hipper than I am.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I just got out. I'm a big guy on convenience and utility.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
If you're going to break the law. Go all in? All in or don't go. Right. Because what was that movie? I think it was Heat where the bad guy told the cop, see, you think I got born to lose tattooed on my chest I'm robbing 7-Elevens? No, no, no. Right. And I'd seen that movie prior to doing this. You know, he's got a point. That is one of my favorite movies. It is.
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From my point of view as prior military and, you know, Seeing the gunfight, the gun battle, that's probably one of the coolest running gun battles you will ever see in a movie. And most realistic.
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Yeah, because they're actually reloading. They're moving from point to point. And it goes back to military. If you're not shooting, you need to be moving. If you're not moving, you need to be reloading.
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Oh, no. I knew that she would lose her shit if I'd have mentioned it. And I'm like, oh... And I come to the realization that I'm going to have to walk away from everything. And I'm weighing it in my head. This goes on for four or five days. I'm going to go for it. I've never done anything outrageous in my life. This is it. I'm going to change my life.
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I'm going to probably end up down in Costa Rica, sitting on a beach, fishing, and That's where I want to go. That's what I'm going to do.
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Well, I thought about it backwards. I thought, where do I want to go? How am I going to get there? And I looked into the Cayman Island banks. I looked into Costa Rica. I looked at the FBI and some crime statistics. And I figured, okay. Most criminals stay in like a 500, three or 500 mile circle of their home. The cops catch a lot of people at their mama's house. Right. Okay.
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Because when they, people know they've done something wrong, they won't, they won't feel safe and they don't want to leave that little bubble. I'm like, okay, if I get outside that bubble, my chances increase. So I've got to get out of the country as quickly as possible.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I knew it would be a big story, especially for that area. Because even before I really came up with a solid plan – what I thought was a solid plan. I knew about how much money it would be. I knew it would be more than 10 and less than 20, 20 million. And I knew that would be a huge story.
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Matter of fact, it was the, I can't remember if he robbed the Tallahassee branch or the Jacksonville branch. Jacksonville, I think. Yeah, it was the Jacksonville branch, which is where I live now. And I've met that guy. Really? He... Well, at the time, he was a little messed up. You met him after? Oh, no. I met him like... In passing in prison. Oh, okay. And I was like, okay.
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But he was a completely different type thing. He kidnapped the dude. Oh, I didn't know that.
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It was a mess. But I think he beat me by a few million.
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When I first started at Fargo, I was friends with her driver. All the drivers kind of hang out together. And so I ended up talking to Kelly, and I ended up driving for her for quite a while. And we just hit it off.
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Yeah, she had quit, got fired. I'm not really sure. Once again, it's one of those things where it didn't concern me. I didn't look into it.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So you decided you were going to do it. You talked to her.
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Talked to her. What was the plan? The basic plan was for them to get me a fake ID, which we did, which back then was way easier. And what I would do was we'd pick a Saturday, and I would basically empty the vault. At first, they only wanted me to take, I think he said $250,000, and then he came back, I'll get $1 or $2 million. I'm like, no, we're not doing that.
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I'm eating lunch in Mexico by the time the news breaks.
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If I do this, I'm going to take enough money so that I won't have to ever come back because I won't be able to. Okay. And as it worked out, the original plan was I wanted to get at least 15, which worked out pretty good. And it was like, here's your five. Here's your five. Just make sure you deliver my five. Anything that's left after that, you can have. You can keep it. I only want my five.
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And they were, oh, yeah, that'd be great. And I didn't know that they were already planning to vote me off the island. Right.
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That's a ton of money. Imagine if we'd have got that money to the Cayman Islands back then. Because back then, the Cayman Islands were wide open and paying really good interest.
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Economic citizen, yeah. Yeah.
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Um, I, I knew about what was going to be in the vault and went into work just, just normal. Um, Right. I think we met one or two more times, and we made a run to get my big quote-unquote fake ID, which was just a state ID.
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You ever seen those net guns? Yeah. Shoot somebody with a net. Yeah. That'd be cool if I can hit him with a net. That'd be great. You're right. It'd be comical, right?
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That was it. I've never been a social butterfly.
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And now that I'm much older, I had to be a cold-hearted SOB. I had to be. That was the only way. You had to put on that mask and wear it all the way to the door. Because if I'd acted any different, the whole world would have known. Because I did have a schedule. I went to bed at the same time. I got up. I carried two sandwiches, an apple or some fruit.
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I mean, it was almost like I had some weird OCD. Because I carried the same thing for lunch almost all the time. And... I'm still that way. I love to have a schedule. Like being late today aggravated me. You have no idea. And it was everything that was completely out of my control. Right. I like to be on time.
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I don't know if it's from the way I was raised, but there's something about if I say I'm going to be here at noon. I'm going to be there at 11.45 usually.
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I was in charge of the vault. And in the morning, I made sure everybody got all their – all their load out in the morning, make sure they had all their paperwork, send them out. And then the rest of the day, you're pretty much sitting there listening to the radio, listening to the company radio for the trucks.
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Um, if they have a problem, they call in, um, uh, you're basically just sitting there, uh, scratching your butt until they start coming back. And they call, Kelly and them, they must have called me out many times. Are you sure you're going to go through with this? I'm like, yeah. Don't worry about me. You know, when I tell you I'm coming out the door, I'm coming out the door.
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And finally, the truck started coming back. And we had a guy, he was a messenger, and they had said, hey, we want you to stay with Dave and kind of learn it. And he'll be in charge and he'll show you what to do and work with him. Great guy though. I hate, I hate, I kind of hate I did that to him, but finally got to the last bit.
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I said, Hey man, if you want to take off, it's going to take me a while. If you want to take on off, I got you covered. So he leaves and I'm mock lock up everything. Um, I don't set the timer on the vault. Nothing. I don't spin the big wheel on it. I mock lock up. Go out. I see his taillights going around the corner. I turn back around. Go right back in the building. Disarm the security system.
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Move my van. And this is kind of where the plan goes to shit. Because I had planned on, there was two doors. They were all set. One at the front, one at the back. And I was planning on going out the back entrance. And for some reason, I'll get to that. But for some reason, it wasn't working that night. It didn't work that night. So I had to go. But anyway, I pushed the first bin out there.
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And it was mostly small bills. And by the time I was done, I had a pile of money that was... About three and a half, four foot tall, nine feet long, and weighed over a ton. The F-250 van that I was loading, the armored van, when I started, the back bumper was pretty high up on me. When I was done, it was pretty low. So you...
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Yeah. All the trucks are done. Nobody's coming back. Nobody's supposed to be coming back, anything.
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And you're just there alone.
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I'm there alone.
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So you loaded up the truck, you get in the truck, and you just... Yeah.
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And I had scouted out and found the security VHS tapes, and I'd secured two or three of them, and I missed one. Somehow they had another recorder up in the ceiling. Yeah. Right. And I didn't get that one. Yeah.
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And to buy myself time, I stole almost all their keys.
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Law enforcement often questions him, not because he's suspected of a crime, but because they find him fascinating. He is the most interesting man in the world. I don't typically commit crime, but when I do, it's bank fraud.
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Let's see, what was in that place? It was some sort of aluminum recycling place where we met, and they had rigged the gate that when I pulled up, it would open. And I got out, and this guy comes walking up on me. And he says, don't worry, I'm with you. Just give me the keys. I hand him the keys, and this becomes important later. I say, this is the keys to the van. They open all the doors.
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Don't open. Don't put it in the box, the big box of keys. Okay, because I had a box in between the front seats filled with every key in Wells Fargo. Okay. This, we'll come back around to this. This becomes important later. And I've already got my little bit of money I'm going to take with me because I didn't know how much money I could get through a metal detector with at the airport.
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I was unsure, you know. So I didn't take that much money. So Kelly and I get in her truck and we go to Columbia, South Carolina, where they've got an airport. I didn't know at the time that their airport closed at like 9 a.m.
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So I ended up scrapping plan A, going to plan B, hop on a bus in Columbia, South Carolina, go from Columbia, South Carolina to Atlanta, Georgia, hop on a plane in Atlanta from Atlanta to New Orleans, New Orleans to Cancun, Mexico.
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Yeah. I'm eating lunch in Mexico at the time the news breaks.
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Probably about $45,000 or $50,000, thereabouts.
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Since I was in Mexico, I had to actually kind of dig. And I found, what was it? I found a newsstand they had, might have been the New York Newsstand. Yeah, the New York Times. And they had, it didn't make the front page, not for them. And I found a little blurb about it. I thought, okay, we're good. I didn't think it was that big of a story. I thought, all right, good.
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I mean, I knew the FBI would be after me. But I didn't think that... I was pretty sure they wouldn't go digging in New Mexico hard.
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Right. But it became bigger later, right? Like it didn't when they started looking.
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Yeah. Okay. And that takes us back to... the van that they left with three million in it, I think it was.
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Yeah. Why would you leave money on the table?
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And to be honest, neither was I, but.
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Well, my guess is this. We live in a small town. If you go from a double wide to a multi-million dollar mansion. And pay in cash. Pay in cash. And you go from driving a hoopty to driving a beamer. You go from a cubic zirconium to an actual diamond, people notice. And this guy tried to pass himself off as a former professional football player. Right.
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And I don't know what you know about the football fans and players, People are rabid fans about their football. Yeah. They knew he wasn't a cowboy from any season.
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Yeah. Yeah. one of the things that's never come out in the inner, in any of the interviews is I'm on the other end and I'm timing our phone, right? Phone calls. I bought a really expensive watch just for this. It was one of the extravagances I did. I bought a nice Omega. What was it? I've master my, my memory stretched then, but it was a nice Omega watch.
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Um, and I'm watching the time every time we talk, um, And I'm keeping it around two to three minutes.
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Oh, yeah. Back then, this goes back to me doing my research. I found out that they could trace a phone, but it took them two and a half to three minutes. Right. And... like I said, outside the country even longer because they've got to contact the country and dealing with the Mexican government back then would have been a nightmare, I'm sure.
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Well, I'm in Cancun and I'm moving from place to place. And I'm starting to get concerned that this should have been easy. You can smuggle anything you want into Mexico.
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Into Mexico, yeah.
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Easy. Going south, easy. Easy as pie. And I'm like, all you have to do is box it up. Send it UPS.
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Could have bought a hoopty, an old station wagon, van, whatever. Filled it up. Drove it down. Done deal. Forget about me.
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The gist of it is they've had a meeting. And they've decided they're going to kill me, right? And he's got a buddy, McKinney, and they're going to hire him. He's going to go down to Mexico and kill me.
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The FBI hears this, and that's when they really start looking to figure out exactly where I'm at in Mexico.
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I went out of my way to avoid violence. Right. Because, and I know this sounds hypocritical of me, none of that money was worth a drop of human blood. Right. I would have set the money on fire before I would have hurt somebody. Right.
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I'm not sure exactly, but I'd moved down to Cozumel and Playa del Carmen. We're getting towards the end of it. See, that would have been January or so that year. And I'm talking to Kelly Campbell and I hear a second click after she hangs up. And we'd had a conversation before.
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later listen i told her i told them your phone's tapped i heard a second click because that was one of the telltale signs back in the olden days that your phone was tapped um you could hang on just a second you'd hear hear them hang up it go click and then you hear a second click right and the tap would be broken yeah because the the the
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Yeah, back then it was very analog. Right. And so now I'm thinking something's not right. And McKinney had come down to Mexico and had brought me some money, brought me like seven, excuse me, seven, 8,000 bucks, which made me suspicious. The way he acted made me suspicious.
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And the cherry on top of the cake was after he left, one of the guys, one of the Mexicans he was working with came by my apartment. His nickname was Gordo. He's a big guy. And he says, you know that this guy is planning on killing you. I'm like, I was shocked. And I tipped the guy handsomely. You were shocked? Shocked. Okay. I mean, because to me, it made, I was very naive. It made no sense.
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There's plenty of money for everybody. Right.
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But I don't know. I think I took it personal for a long time, and I'm working with that. I'm processing through that feeling of disgust. But that's a whole different story.
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Weirdly, after this, every time I meet, he was calling himself Bruno. Every time I meet Bruno, it's in a very public place, and I've bought myself a knife and sharpened it up. Every time we meet, it's in public. It's face-to-face, and I don't let him close to me. And we end up staying in Playa del Carmen. He brought me some money, and this is right there at the end of it.
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And I'm at the Turtle La Tortuga Hotel when the FBI picked me up.
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How did that happen?
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It was weird because it was a very touristy town. During the week, there's no gringos, right? I was an oddball. And then when there were three more gringos in town, it was a little strange. And I noticed them. I even talked to one of them at one point. And eventually I'd gone out to do laundry. And they thought I was making a break for it. They thought I was running.
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And they caught me coming back to the hotel. And the FBI agent comes up, says, hey, Mr. Gant, I know who you are. You're under arrest. And that was the beginning of the end, so to speak.
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Yeah, they had already arrested them, rounded them up. I think they had even got Bruno at the same time.
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He rolled over like a hard-boiled egg.
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No, they brought me... I spent the night with the Mexican federales. And they were going to... big air quotes here, deport me from Mexico. Okay. And they put me on an airplane flight that just happened to have two FBI agents.
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All right. So, okay. So they don't need to extradite you.
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marshals right there in Charlotte Mecklenburg. And they put me on the sixth floor, which is like their version of max. Okay. Um, because the story had exploded. Right.
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Oh yeah. Uh, me and the FBI agent had a long, uh, Long conversation. We actually became friends, oddly.
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Like, that's how they... And that's not far from wrong. Right. I see myself... As an opportunist. And I think most humans are opportunist. In the right circumstances. In the right circumstances, anybody would have done what I did.
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told him my version of the story, and he asked more and more questions. And I think one of the things that kind of impressed him about me, I'm going to make a huge assumption here, is I explained my logic behind everything and how I looked at the crime itself and told him about my research. And he's like, you put a lot of thought into, I'm like, yeah, you guys are easy to beat. on any given day.
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You approach every crime the exact same way. It's a chess game. If I know that you're going to lead with your pawn out in front and then a knight's coming behind it, I can figure out how to beat your ass. Yeah, but you can't account for- You can't account for the nine million other things that can go wrong.
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Yeah, how do you foresee that? And I look back on it in hindsight. If we'd have got that money into a Cayman Bank account, all of it, And he lived off the interest easy. I think the interest would have been $75,000, $80,000 a year. There was no interest.
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Yeah, that's stupid. Almost no one that goes to federal court, almost everybody takes a plea of some sort.
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Was it 96 months? It was just a little over six years.
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Went from the businesses to now check cashing spots to eventually banks. And there was a close call that occurred with one of the bank robberies And at this time, mind you, I'm all in the news like they have no idea who I am. Supposedly, I'm in the news. It seems like every other week they're talking about the get down and count bandit.
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The feds had dubbed me that after I started robbing the banks. And I'm wearing different disguises now. It started off where I'm fully masked up and gloved up to now I'm putting on, gluing on fake beards, wearing sunglasses and these crazy disguises. Like it's getting pretty methodical and well thought out. And every week they're airing this stuff on the news.
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Like, yeah, the Get Down and Count Bandits struck again. And it's becoming intoxicating in the sense that not only am I getting away with it and the thrills, the highs and blah, blah, blah. But people in my circle are now enabling the behavior because they're like, let's just hit a robbery. Let's hit a lick. They're egging it on themselves. Like, let's go on shopping sprees.
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Let's go get this for that another. And it gets to a point where I robbed this bank. Right. And during the incident. dye pack ends up going off. We get away that day barely by the hairs on my chinny chin chin. But it was after that robbery where I started having some epiphanies like, bro, you're taking some crazy chances with your life for what?
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I mean, granted, the money was cool, especially when we started robbing the banks and stuff. But I'm like, is it really worth it? And I remember telling myself that and deciding, like, no more. I'm done. I can't be out here taking these chances with my life. I just got done doing five years in prison. And here I am out here in these streets again on this bullshit. Like, this is crazy.
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What am I doing? But it was too late, bro. A week after that bank incident occurred. The feds came a knocking. And. How did they how they how they got on my trail? Yeah. So the story goes and I still to this day don't even know the legitimacy of this. But they say that. My bank surveillance photograph had been circulating through various police precincts.
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And they say that an individual, old school resource officer of mine, I won't name him because I don't know what liability you'll have. We put his name out there. But this guy, just to give the people context. In high school, you already know about the fucking idiot that I was. I was a misfit, bro.
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This high school resource officer that supposedly saw this picture, he and I had the worst blood imaginable. He was constantly breaking up house parties that I was at. he was constantly trying to catch my hand in the cookie jar. Cause he knew I was thoroughly immersed in the criminal lifestyle.
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What is a resource officer? Is that like a police officer?
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Yeah. Police officer that was stationed inside the schools.
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Sorry. Yup. Yup. So this police officer, like he was constantly throughout my high school years, trying to catch me. It was this huge game of cat and mouse between me and him. And there were verbal confrontations with him. Like I could not stand this clown. Um, this photograph of mine is floating across these precincts as they're trying to figure out who I am.
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Now, as the story goes, apparently this officer sees this photograph. Now, mind you, in this photograph, I have a fake beard on, glasses, the whole getup. He sees this photo and he was like, I think I know who that is. And they're like, who is it? He was like, that's Sean Marshall. And they're like,
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How could you possibly?
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And keep in mind, I had put on 50 pounds since he had last seen me. Now, there's certain facial features, I guess, maybe are that distinctive. I don't know. But he was like, that's Sean Marshall. But that's still not enough to get an arrest warrant, but it's enough to give them an idea, something to look into. So they researched that. They put my name in the system. They're like, you know what?
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He is on parole right now, and this kind of fits his M.O., They're like, let's go ahead and put his mugshot in this lineup and take it back around to these businesses. So they do that. And but it doesn't work to their benefits because they take it to all the banks and all these businesses and no one can definitively say like, yeah, that's that's this guy.
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There's a couple that are kind of questioning like this guy kind of looks familiar, but he had a like they were trying to frame a guilty man. So look, they go through this whole process, right? And no one can definitively say like, that's Sean Marshall. There's a couple people that point to me and they're like, that kind of looks like him, but he had a full disguise on.
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So that's still piquing their curiosity. The old school resource officer now takes my
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mugshot in these bank surveillance photos to my old high school and has a conversation with the principal and he asks him he was like who does this guy look like to you and apparently as the story goes the principal is like oh that's sean marshall so the police are like you know what i think we have enough to at least question him we don't have enough to arrest him clearly right but we have enough to where we can pick him up and question him
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And that's exactly what they do. They come and they that day they had a whole tactical unit and whatnot following me throughout the streets and ended up pulling me over in Denver because I'm staying in Denver at that time. And at that time, my girl and myself were in the car when they pull us over. And I know when they pull up behind me. They don't have any physical evidence.
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I'm not worried about that, but what's going through my mind is that someone in my crew, because there were seven of us, and this string of robberies that I was involved in, there were seven people all together. So the first thing that's going through my mind is someone got caught and is now trying to finger me and implicate me in these robberies. So I'm like, fuck. Who got caught?
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Mm-hmm. Not enough. So I'm panicking, right? I'm like, fuck. I'm trying to play out all the possible scenarios. The police are behind me. And yeah, we end up getting pulled over. And the last thing I tell my girlfriend is I'm getting out the car. I'm like, baby, they don't know shit. Keep your mouth shut. We're good. Shut the fuck up.
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And I was like, I get out, surrender to the police, play the role. Long story short, bro, they end up taking me and my girlfriend to the precinct and they end up getting her to connect me to a robbery and it snowballs from there. I end up confessing to my role in all of it. And, uh, They then, at that point, are now pressuring me to roll over on my accomplices.
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They're like, well, we know there's six other people involved in this. They're like, work with us, we'll work with you. And I'm like, nah, fuck off. I'm not about to snitch on these people just to save my own hide. I was like, I'm good. So they're like, bro, you're about to go away for a long time. You're on parole for a robbery and we're just arresting you for another string of robberies?
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Like, you're done. You have no... wiggle room right now. Like, you're either going to play ball with us or your life is over with. And as enticing as it is in that moment to just be like, oh, man, fuck. All right, it's Jim, John, and whomever. I'm like, I can't do it, bro. The fiber of my being wouldn't allow me to roll over on my accomplices. And I'm like, I'm not doing it.
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Yeah. I never really liked Bill, to be honest with you. Oh, man. I couldn't do it, bro. I couldn't. And I think for me, the big thing was this, and this is what it boiled down to. The people that I would have been betraying, they didn't deserve to be in prison. Like, granted, they were involved in these activities, but in my mind, they were misguided. I had misguided them.
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And I felt a responsibility with that. The guilt that I felt throughout all those robberies and the reason why I was so careful about how I was victimizing people, like in that moment as I'm being interrogated, I knew I'd fucked myself, bro. And I knew that in the course of that, I had misled a whole bunch of people. And those people that were with me, they were just following my lead, bro.
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This wasn't a kid anymore. This wasn't little Sean that was following his gang affiliates and OGs, you know, orders and footsteps. This was grown ass Sean who had to be accountable for his actions. And I felt a huge weight and responsibility. And I was like, you know what? This is my fault. I need to take this. And I did. And what ended up happening is I ended up getting 45 years for that. Yeah.
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Now it's go time.
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45 years. And the reason it came to that is you didn't go to trial.
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You pled guilty.
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I pled guilty. And what led to that is that initially the deal that was offered to me was like 30 to 65 years. And when the D.A. came to me during that whole sentencing phase, I'm like, bro, eat a dick. I'm not. Are you crazy? I was like, I didn't even kill anybody like that. That's a life sentence. I was like, I'll take a 20 year sentence. I know I fucked up.
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Imagine how fast your heart's going. Oh, my God. As soon as that truck pulls up, and you got all those people there, and you're like, right now, I can walk away. Nobody knows. Nobody knows anything. But you're right at that fucking point where that decision, you get a fuck, and then as soon as you start going into it, that's when it's just like... All right, let's fucking do it.
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I know I deserve to be in prison, but I was like, I'm not taking a 30 to 65 year deal. That's crazy. And for months went back and forth with the DA and the DA. All he kept saying is like, bro, if you don't roll over on your co-defendants, it's over for you. I don't give a fuck what you're talking about. And this is the only deal I'm putting on the table.
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He was like, I know there are six other people involved in this. So you either play with me or you're done. And I still refuse to do it. And it got to a point where my lawyer at the time was able to negotiate what they call a mediation session.
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And that's where a senior judge mediates between like the defense counsel and the prosecutor kind of looks over the facts of the case and tries to help both parties come to a reasonable deal. And during the course of that session, You know, the senior judge more or less just kept it real with me. He was like, Sean, you're fucked. He was like, I'm not even going to sugarcoat this situation for you.
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He was like, right now your feet are cemented into the ground and the DA is like a semi truck coming at you full speed. He was like, today you have a choice to make. You can either die in prison. He was like, because if you take it to trial, because I was adamant about going to trial. I was like, if you're going to give me a life sentence, I might as well get because I was facing 100 to 400 years.
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That's how much they stacked those charges against me.
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There were like 10 plus armed robbery charges, each carrying a 10 to like 32 year sentence on top of a simulated weapon menacing charge or whatever it was. So in all, had I taken my case to trial, the way that they stacked those charges against me, because all those sentences would run consecutively with each other. Right. So going to trial and losing, I'm facing 100 to 400 years. Right.
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He was like, bro, the senior judge is telling me, like, you're either going to die in prison because that's what's going to happen if you get 100. He was like, even if you get the low end of that sentence, 100 years, you can't do that. You're going to die in prison.
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And he was like, granted, you can take chances on appeal and hope that something goes wrong during the course of this trial and that you can come back and get resentenced or get your case thrown out. But he was like, that's rare. But he was like, that rarely happens.
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He was like, so today you have to make a choice. And I was like, today he was like. Today is the only time this room, this session that we're having, they're like, today is when you need to decide whether you're taking this deal or not. You can't meditate on this. You can't think about this for any substantial amount of time. This is it, buddy. What's your lawyer's plan?
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My lawyer's like, Sean, take the fucking deal. Because the DA, he comes back after these conversations and he was like, I'll give Sean 45 years. If he's not going to play ball with us, 45 years is all I'm willing to give him. So my lawyers role. Say it again. You have parole.
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But so 45 years of violent 45 is what they tried to get me to plea to on that I would have had to serve 75% of it before being eligible for parole. So they're trying to get me to serve 30 years in prison before I'm even eligible to be a free man. And the judge said that during the session.
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He was like, your choice today is a matter of choosing between dying in prison or getting out to your grandchildren and living out your golden years.
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I was like, what type of choice is that? And he was like, that's the choice you have, my friend. And in that moment, I was like, you know what? Fuck it. Give me the 45 years.
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One day his friend comes up to me and says, hey man, your roommate said he was gonna do this. Go to this bank and walk in and rob it basically. And he goes, but if he backs out, will you do it? And like, I'm thinking like, shh. I'm sick. I need money. This could take care of me for a while. So I said, yeah. And of course the other guy backed out. So I'm like, well, shit, I guess I got to do it.
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And, uh, that's where it all started. That was, uh, there at Phoenix.
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What'd you do? You went, you just, you wrote a note or.
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Yeah. So, um, I wrote a note and I had long hair. I'm kind of growing it long now, but I had long hair before that, but down to here. And so I cut my hair and. I throw on the little Irish, you know, golfer Irish hat. And I had a long sleeve shirt on and pants, but like I went and got the elastic, like grandma pants, you know?
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And so underneath my long sleeve shirt was a short sleeve t-shirt and underneath my pants were shorts. And I stashed a backpack in this underground garage. And so when I, So I went into the bank and I wrote a note. I put it on the counter and he's just looking at me and I see his hand go like this. I'm like, don't you press that fucking button. Don't you press that fucking button.
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And he goes like this. Just ragged my face. Like, there you go. Stick it, you know, press the button. And I was so nervous. Like, like it's just pure adrenaline at that time because I, you know, I got the discovery back and I never even put the glasses down over my face. I'm staring at the camera like, you know, when they get the discovery. And so. You didn't get any money.
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No, I got about three grand. He gave me the money. And hit the button. And hit the button. And so. He gave me the money. And so I went down into the garage, did the little switcheroo, threw the stuff in the backpack.
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And I had a little black bag like this and threw stuff in the backpack, walked through the parking garage, came up an elevator that was on another side and took another walkway and up another elevator to street level and then went across. And then I got on the light rail there in Phoenix. And as I'm coming across, the police are pulling into the bank and I'm just like,
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and um so that took care of you know for that was the first that was a u.s bank there on central and um no weapon or nothing i was very polite in my notes i said like good morning i think the first one i put this is a this is a burglary another robber this is a burglary you know said a few things and like thank you you know and and gave him the note and so
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Um, but you know, I, I think you're, I've watched a few of the videos. Like you don't really get very much when you go in and, and do the teller, like with a note or unless you're doing some giant takeover.
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Yeah. Unless you go after the cash. Yeah. And if you go into the, a lot of these guys will tell you if you go into the cash, uh, drawer, like someone, they'll have a main drawer with 10, 9,000, but usually those have triggers and all kinds of problems.
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I got, I got one of those. Like, uh, my, My third bank. Yeah. Cause I got like a 10, 11 grand from that. I hit the head teller. And so she had the big cash drawer and, um, yeah, so I did the first one and then it was about two, three weeks. And then of course when you have money like that, you're going crazy with dope. I mean, I wasn't buying new things, fancy things or anything like that.
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And so, and now I'm supporting two other people's habit. You know, everybody's your friend when you have, uh, when you got the fix. Right. And, and so then I, um, I went in trying to think which was next. So I did this bank way on the, that's the one with the head teller way on the north side of town. And I had a driver for that. And so, but he didn't know what was going on.
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I just said, look, you're going to go here and you're going to park right here and I'll be back in a few minutes. And then I got back in the car and like, go, go, go, go. And so I got the main teller in that one. And, and so,
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figured out what was going on you know so obviously now one person knows and then my roommates know and you know that's never good and so and so by the time i i did another one right next to the first one on central and they had one of those machines where um almost like a printer machine but it's a little small atm machine and so i go in there and she gives me a thousand dollars i'm like what the fuck is this she didn't even open a drawer nothing
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She goes, I have to print it from the machine unless I go back into the vault and that's going to take some time. And she goes, if you want to wait five minutes, I can print out another thousand. Kind of like a drop drawer at Circle K or 7-Eleven, something like that. They have those drop drawers. And I'm like, ah. So that was like a thousand bucks out of that.
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It threw off my average, you know, but yeah. But after that second one, we got robbed. Because my roommate was real sloppy. He would get all Xanaxed out and have these periods of heroin Xanax, three-day blackouts. So he had people come into our house late at night because he was selling. And we got robbed. And he's getting pistol whipped.
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And I jump and come trying to do a Superman and ran right into a fist. And so... I had about four grand in those, you know, those Russian maternity dolls, like the one inside the other, inside the other, inside of the other side, rolled all the cash and put it in that it was on my dresser. And I think the guy knew I had money. I think it was a setup.
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Like someone knew, told him I had money or something because he was going through the whole house. He's looking under the mattress, unless he was just looking for dope money, but we weren't those kind of dealer people, you know? And, um, he picks that thing up and he puts it down, he moves it over.
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And you couldn't find anything, you know, so he just stole my phone and my TV, but it's, you know, that's the, I'm lucky we didn't get shot because the guy was getting pissed. My buddy was getting pistol whipped and I grabbed the guy with the knife and just crazy, crazy things, you know, but that's what happens when you're, when you're living that life, you know?
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And so I, I did the third one and then they, they started putting me on the news.
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those bastards those bastards yeah i do you have the clip i don't know if you have the clip or not um did i send it to you the youtube clip i don't think so you guys send me the it yeah send it to me for sure yeah yeah so i ended up they started putting me on the news and they i come home and my roommate said dude you were just on the news you're just on the news like ah shit and so i did um
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One more bank after that, and then I decided, you know what? This is it. I bought a Lincoln. This is 2016, so I bought a 2004 Lincoln limo edition, special edition, windows tinted. I'm like, you know, this is cool. I got money now. I'm driving my dealer around, so I'm getting hooked up. I'm getting hooked up every day. I don't have to worry about money to do my habit because I wasn't.
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I wasn't looking to get rich off of the banks. I was just looking to not get sick. Right. And so like, I'm hooked up. I got, I'm driving my dealer around making deliveries for him going here, going there. And, um, and so, but some crazy things started happening. Like, uh, I'm like, dude, I feel like we're being followed. It's like, no, no. And you know, he's selling meth. So everybody, huh? Well,
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Who would follow us? Yeah. Right.
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You're all like, you've only robbed three bags.
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Right. Right. And I'm driving around with him with, you know, a couple ounces of heroin and meth and then shotgun in the back. And like, who would follow us? Look at all, look at all heroin now driving the Lincoln. But my excuse was like, uh, they had what's called livery service in Arizona. So my, my justification for it, if I ever got pulled over, I had nothing in the front and,
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It was on the back and I don't know what he brought in the car. It's, you know, wasn't me. And so, so I just figured that was the, you know, that was a safe way to go about it. I was like, man, I feel like I'm being followed. And, uh, this was about, um, September, uh, 2016 and like I would park, we'd park somewhere and this van would come around to the side, like a little
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But it would be like a lady with her two kids, right? And so they followed us all the way to this place. And then they parked there. I'm like, what's up? So I start walking and they just tires peel and take off. But it's like this Somalian lady with two kids in the car. And so I'm starting to get more paranoid. But it's definitely not the police. No, that was definitely not the police.
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But we're being followed. And so I'm like, what? So one time on the freeway, I feel like, I'm like, man, this is crazy. So I'm on the main freeway there in Phoenix and everybody's going, anybody knows Phoenix, they're doing 80 if they're doing anything. And I slow down to like 40 miles an hour on the freeway in the center lane. And the two cars that I thought were following me wouldn't pass me.
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And I'm like, this is odd. This is really odd, and it was a big SUV, and I don't know what the person was driving it. So then I take off, and I'm doing 95, and the guy's right on my tail. And then a police car comes, flashing his lights, and I think he's pulling me over. And then he gets in front of the car and me, and they pull him over. I'm like, this is odd. Like, what?
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I don't understand this, you know? And so... Um, that went on for, for about three months and, um, later to come and find out they had a GPS on my car. So I don't know if they have some kind of, they take their CIs to follow people when they're doing this, but I don't know. It was just, or maybe he made some bad deals. My, my buddy made some bad deals and they were following us.
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I don't know, but it was, it was, uh, it was odd things were happening though. Like I had a, uh, a Garmin. that you would put a cell phone chip into for location. But I never used it. It was in my drawer. So I come home one day and I had this girl living with me. She was pregnant, not my kid. And so I come and I get sitting out on the couch.
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And then I pull out the chip, the SIM card that was in it. And it was a different SIM card.
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And so, yeah, just odd. I don't know. Just really strange things. So, um, come to find out, I had several people, confidential informants on my, on my case. So, um, I don't know how many people told, you know, the FBI what, um, and so I, uh, I don't know, odd things. Maybe they're trying to keep track of me, my Bluetooth. I had a Sony Bluetooth speaker that was
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I'd come home and it would be on and connected to some other phone or some other Bluetooth. And they were friends. This girl staying with me was friends with the neighbor next door. So I don't know if the FBI was over there listening to me or trying on the speaker. I don't know. You know, I don't know what kind of tactics they do, but it was just started getting very insane.
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And then, um, almost 90 days after they put the wards on for, uh, the, uh, GPS on my car, which I found this out later, but they came and raided me. And I had bars on my windows. The screen door was a barred screen door and bars on the windows. And it was right when the sun comes up. That's when they get you. You know, right when the sun comes up and I wake up, I'm sick. I can't see straight.
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And I'm like, I'll be right there. I'll be right there. I'll be right there. and I had dope all in the house and, you know, I'm sick cause I, I overslept and, um, I'm banging, I put on shorts and I'm like trying to wipe the, the powdery stuff off the counter. And I had a gram of dope and, and I couldn't, you know, I had no time to do it. I couldn't smoke it or shoot it.
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So I put it in the only other place I could get away with hiding it for a while, you know? And, uh, and so they came in and they had that bar that comes through the, this long bar trying to pull down the, the blinds to see me. And, and I come out with the pants on and shirt and shoes, no socks. And, uh, they put me on the ground and cuffed me.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And, and the girl that was with me, she was there and they just let her go, you know, just let her go. So I, I think there was quite a few things going on there, but you know, people keeping an eye on me to make sure I wasn't running off or, that kind of thing. So, but then the only thing I like about all of this is they, they referenced me to James Bond in the, uh, in the news thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And they call me the golden eye bandit because I wear these silver rim glasses. Um, and, uh, so, so the, the news thing, I'll, I'll send you the clip. And, uh, yeah, you just like me in bar article. Uh, I, I, I think I sent you the YouTube video too. And like one of the first texts, but I'll send it again.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Yeah. Yeah. It's a link to the, it is ABC news there. It's been, I didn't see it. I did. It was. Yeah. Yeah. It was a news clip of them talking about you. Right. Yeah. It's like Bond, James Bond. There's a new golden eye in town and.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Yeah. So they, they did. Yeah. And they had me blasted golden. I banned it all. Like they put it on that national syndicated news list all over the country and, and everything. So it was a matter of time before they got me, but you know, I didn't really care. I didn't care so much. No, I'm just saying, I didn't care so much that I got arrested. Like
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I was just done, like, I've just spent, you know, like, at this point, I'm just white, you know? Right. You were gonna say?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Yeah, so they take me to some building right across from the main justice center, federal justice center there in Phoenix, and they're fingerprinting me, and they don't really tell me, they didn't say why I was being arrested, and I didn't ask, you know, which is... an obvious sign of guilt, right? What are you doing here? And, um, and so he asked me a few questions and then he was lawyered up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
You know, I said, I want an attorney. He, um, he asked me about my cell phone number and then he asked me, um, if I had ever been in this part of town or something like that. And I just said, you know what? I think I should get an attorney. And I just lawyered up. And, um, so, but they were like super nice to me. Like, you know, just completely nice.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Um, they're walking me over to the federal center. They let me have a cigarette and, they're like saying, don't worry this, you know, you'll get through this, Mr. Martinez, just, you know, you'll be okay. And, um, by this time, the, you know, the, the intro dose of, uh, the heroines kicking in, I'm kind of, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And, um, they take me right over to the justice center and I'm sitting in those, uh, stainless steel benches, you know, and I'm just falling over on all the people there that got caught crossing the border and, Everything else, I mean, I was just out of it. And I got arraigned that day and sent straight off to Florence, which is the big prison town, basically. They have state there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
They have the core civic for the feds. I think they have a, if you're like a probation violation person, you might have another little area there for federal. Right. Yeah, that started my whole prison experience.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Okay. Well, what happened? What did they offer you?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I realized then it was for the banks after that, you know, like, cause then they, uh, that initial appearance before the judge, uh, you know, they said four counts of bank robbery. And, um, so I had a public defender and, you know,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
looking over the discovery and, you know, seeing my picture like this up at the camera and, you know, I mean, I knew I was had, so I, I didn't fight my case and it took a year to get through the whole process, not even trying to fight my case. Cause I figured, you know, everybody, someone there has that big giant book that says, um, uh,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
The federal sentencing got- Beat the feds or something like that or- No, no, no. Busted by the feds. Busted by the feds. That's it. It's like this big. And the two things I got out of it is, one, they win 95 to 98% of their cases. And two, if you take it to the box, you're screwed and you lose. You're screwed. And so- And I had no one else on my case.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Like, it wasn't like I could, you know, I mean, I guess I could have snitched. I could have snitched on the driver, but what good have that done? You know what I mean? It's like, at this point I figured out like, um, you know, unless you're.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Yeah. No weapon at all. And my notes were nice and, you know, polite. And I, you didn't hand him a harshly worded. It was a harshly worded, uh, no, no. No, it was like, it was like, thank you. You know, it was basically like put the hundreds fifties and twenties on the counter, remove the bands, spread them open. Cause I didn't want a GPS chip, you know, um, uh, no, no GPS, no dye packs.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Thank you. You know, and then the first one I left to note the other ones, I realized I should take the note because the first one, I remember he pulled it back because they wanted to keep it as evidence. for DNA and those kinds of things. So the other ones, I took the notes, but, um, they had them, you know, the shutdown with the camera camera on them.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So it took me, um, they kept delaying the final sentencing and that type of thing. And I'm just like, look, I don't, you know, I don't, I don't want this to be a problem, but I was a, I had no prior criminal record on anything like the, that charges for my kid, you know, being in a juvenile never showed up. I had, um,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I had another incident when I was in Cleveland where I, my wife worked for a bank and we had split up and I was, we had two separate bank accounts. So I was depositing money here and withdrawing it over here and back and forth and back and forth. The next thing you know, you're about six grand overdrawn. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And yeah, so I had three felony charges on that and I ended up getting, attempting to pass a bad check misdemeanor. Out of, you know, paid the money back, paid the money back, released that day. No probation, attempting to pass a bad check misdemeanor, and that was it. So they didn't do anything with that on my criminal history.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And so I basically had nothing on my criminal history, but I was still a 38 on the list. Because I had, I think bank robbery is like a 32 or 34, something like that. Just with or without a gun. A gun is just an enhancement. And then, but they counted each one, each bank was another one point enhancement from the first.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
My first charge was actually for forgery. A buddy of mine who was letting me stay with him was getting evicted. He was working at a job site, stole some checks from the owner.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And me, not having a criminal mindset, thinks to myself, well, if he writes the check to me and I sign it and bring it to the bank and they give me cash for it, I'm not committing forgery because I didn't actually write that stuff on the check. So I go cash two of these checks. One was for like $380, which I kept $60 of and gave the rest to my buddy so he could put towards rent.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And then once that one worked, we went big on the next one with $1,500. And I gave him like nine. He got caught up on rent and everything. And a couple of weeks after that, the cops are looking for me. They want to talk to me about it. And now I'm getting investigated for other stupid things. There was like an attempted burglary.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And then it all culminates at the end of the summer when I physically reach my hand in a woman's pocket and take $200. She went to the cops and said, I robbed her. I told the cops, yeah, I took the money out of her pocket, but that's because she owed me $200 and wasn't trying to give it to me. Turns out that's confession for robbery.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
right the moment the moment you volunteer that you physically took money from somebody that was trying to stop you it doesn't matter if they owe you money or not um you've committed a robbery so what we started doing was robbing drug dealers of course and of course i mean of course that that's a given it's the next step it's new england you know so
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I mean, there's a lot of guns up here, but we don't have nearly the shootings that you guys got down south. I don't know what it is about down south and shooting versus up here and shootings. There's just not that many shootings. So me and my buddies are doing home invasions on drug dealers with baseball bats and two-by-fours and stuff.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Oh, we always used inside information. So like if we're from Laconia, me and a couple of my buddies from Laconia would go to Claremont, New Hampshire, and our buddies in Claremont would tell us who sold drugs in the area. We'd go rob all them. They'd come up to Laconia. We'd tell them who sells drugs. They'd rob all them. So that's how we were just doing it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
We would go to areas where nobody knew us, but we knew a couple people that knew everyone. And that was our end to figure out who we needed to rob. I remember one time we got this one. This is a funny one. We get this safe, right? And my co-defendant in the bank robbery case calls me up and he goes, hey, I'm at this mechanics place. I'm about to go in and grab this safe.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Can I bring it over to Johnny's house and we can crack it over there? And I'm like, yeah, sure. No problem. Let me run home real quick and get some tools. Is this like in the middle of the day? No, this is the middle of the night. Okay. So he goes in and gets the safe, brings it over. I get back with the tools. It takes all of two seconds to break it open.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
It was one of those big white, it's white and plastic on the outsides. It's like one of the fire safes. It's got like concrete and stuff on the inside.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Real cheap, real easy to just pop open, apparently. Well, the funny thing was, when we go to get rid of it, we wrap it in a bed sheet, and we put it in the car, and then we go to this thing the train drives over. I can't remember it for the life of me. A bridge that a train drives over. A trellis. And we walk up on the train tracks, and we're doing one, two, three, and we throw it into the river.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
turns out that uh that type of safe floats it won't sink the door was open and everything we're watching it float right down the river but um once we ran out of drug dealers uh that's when i started looking at banks and i'm like well they keep money right there why don't we just go in there and i'm using some of the things i learned from being in prison which is uh
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
They got a top drawer, they got a bottom drawer. Bottom drawer is where most of the bills are. If you tell them not to do something, they're instructed and trained to listen to you. Their job is to get you out of the bank as quickly as possible and ensure the safety of the people that are in the bank. So I knew I didn't need a gun. I knew I could do it with a note.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And I knew that if I went about doing it the way I wanted to do it, I'd be in and out of a bank in 20 seconds. I'm just grabbing the money from one or two drawers. I'm in and out. And that's what I started doing. And next thing you know, we're running through 15 grand in a couple of days. It's amazing how quickly you just piss through money when it's free.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
You know, it's like when you're actually working for money, which I found, I didn't find this out until I got out of prison this last time. But like when you actually work for money, you're more inclined to think about what you're going to spend it on rather than just buy whatever you see in front of you because you're just going to go steal some more money. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So the bank robbery that we got arrested for, um, the day before the bank robbery, we had gotten off the highway and we're at a gas station and we're outside smoking a cigarette. And my co-defendant points out a little strip mall. It's behind the gas station and And then probably six feet down, there's like a little hill. So it's kind of like you can't really see it that well from the gas station.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And I look over and there's a bank there. I think it was the first bank of New England or something like that. New England National. I can't remember. Something New England was in there. And I go, you know what? That's a good one. We could hit that one first thing tomorrow morning. And he's like, yeah, that's a good idea. So we wind up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
splitting up we connect later that day and um he said he sends me over to this um prostitute's house there was this literally this building in manchester new hampshire that everyone in the building was a prostitute they all had their own apartments but that's where we would go to hang out prostitutes have never been my thing so it was just an easy place to just kind of stay out of the way so i stayed hanging out with one of these prostitutes all night
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Literally just hanging out, doing absolutely nothing else. And he went to see his girlfriend. He comes and picks me up first thing in the morning. It's like six o'clock in the morning. And this was one of those days where like everything that could go wrong goes wrong. We get back to his house, have a bowl of cereal. Next thing you know, we both fall asleep. We've been up for days.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
We both pass out, wake up. It's like three 30 in the afternoon. I go on to wake my co-defendant up. I'm shaking him and everything. And he's, he's dope sick. He is so dope sick. And I'm like, he, he ain't going to be able to drive the getaway car.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
What the fuck? So I just go and get in the shower and I'm trying to figure out what we're going to do because he needs to be not dope sick before we can go rob bank. And I, I'm not dope sick. I've never been strung out on heroin in my life. I've done plenty of heroin. I've just never developed a habit for it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
The first time I really abused it, I had enough minor withdrawal symptoms that I decided I was never going to put myself in that situation again. So my co-defendant comes running into the bathroom and he goes, come on, let's go, let's go, let's go. Guato just called. We can go pick up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
In the trunk? Oh, yeah. You're going to hop out like one of them fucking blue dicks that beat the drums out in Vegas. You look like a guy from Blue Man Group.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Guato was our dealer who we had actually robbed a few days before that we had robbed him and then we went and robbed a bank and my co-defendant's like what are we gonna do we can't go get drugs now I'm like yeah we can go pay him the money we ripped him off for and give him like an extra $500 for the headache we did that he started fronting us dope after that so I get out of the shower we drive down to Lawrence Massachusetts and um the next thing you know we're copping like
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I think we picked up like five grams of heroin and we immediately do some heroin. I do some just because he's doing some. And we wind up getting so high we have to go back and get some cocaine. Well, now we need to balance out so we can go do this robbery. We go back, get some cocaine. Now we're doing some cocaine on the way to the bank. We get to the bank. It's in Wyndham, New Hampshire. And...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Right across the street from the bank is a restaurant and there's trees in front of it. So you can't see the restaurant's parking lot from the road. I tell my co-defendant to pull in there. He pulls in there. I go, stay right here. I'll be right back. I get out of the car, start walking away. As soon as I start walking away, he starts the car and pulls it out of the parking spot.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I turn around, jump back in the car. Now I'm yelling at him like, what the fuck are you doing? He's too high now. That's the problem. When he gets too high, he can't function. He starts talking to himself. He just gets weird and unpredictable.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Right. Unreliable.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Exactly. He pulls out of the parking lot and now he's on the road. As soon as he gets past the strip mall and I can't see the bank, I yell at him to pull the car over. He pulls the car over and I look him right in the eye and I go, don't fucking move from this fucking spot. I'll be right fucking back.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Right. You know, like I know it's not a secret what we're there for. I don't know why he got out of the parking spot. So I start walking towards the bank. I walk in, I go as I go to open the front door of the bank, a woman's leaving the bank. And I go walking up to the person at the desk and I go to hand her the note. And I see immediately she does what everybody does. She gets flustered.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So I start snapping my fingers. Let's go, let's go, let's go. Give me all the money in the top and bottom drawer. Let's go, let's go, let's go. And the woman next to her, I look at her and I go, you can give me all your money too. So they're getting all their money together. Well, what had happened was as I was entering the bank, the woman that was leaving the bank, the door was still open.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
She heard me, let's go, give me all the money. She heard that right before the door closed, finally, as she was in the little foyer area to go out the other bank and exit. So she's on the phone to 911 while she's in the parking lot, leaving the parking lot, telling them there's a bank robbery going on. If I had waited a split second, she never would have been in the parking lot on the phone.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
She wouldn't have heard me start robbing the bank. I'm leaving the bank with the money and I'm walking down the sidewalk past the other stores and I get in the getaway car and now we drive away. We're driving in the wrong direction.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
We want to be in the other direction, but because he got out of the parking spot, we're no longer able to just pull out and take a right leaving the restaurant to get towards the highway. We're kind of stuck going in the direction we're pointed. Well, she also sees the getaway car
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the description of the car, gets the plate number and all that because she's on the phone with 911 and he parked where he parked instead of parking somewhere else. So now they immediately know what car they're looking for. This road takes us all the way around town in a very slow way. So we finally circle underneath the highway.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
We come back around from the other side and traffic starts slowing down. And as traffic starts slowing down, We see that there's a cop doing traffic control. He looks at the car, looks at the license plate, looks at me, looks at my co-defendant, and goes out in front of the car like this, like, stop. My co-defendant hits the breakdown lane and takes off. We're in a Dodge Avenger.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
It's probably like a 98, something like that. But it was a V6 coupe. So it would get up and go when you wanted it to. This cop stops the vehicle behind him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
behind us gets in the passenger seat and does one of those right out of the movies follow that car the cops are on the other side of the highway and literally they're probably two football fields from the entrance to the highway and they're all there already because they've been robbed and it's been a minute since it took us to circumvent this town to get back to the entrance so now we're on 95 north no we're on 93 north in new hampshire
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And it's rush hour on a Friday afternoon. And. We're in the breakdown lane, I'm throwing the clothes I'm wearing out the window over the railing, the few money bands we have, I'm throwing them out the window. Now I'm taking now I'm looking at the money and we really didn't get shit either. If we had hit the bank first thing in the morning, we would have got 15 grand out of that register.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Because we both fell asleep, it was like $850. It was just all bad. So we're getting to the next exit, which is like, I think it's like the Londonderry exit, exit four, and traffic is at a standstill. Except for us. And I know that they're about to spit us off the exit. Because we're in the breakdown lane, we have to get off the exit because of where we're at on the highway.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
He's like, what are we going to do? I'm like, we got to get to 93 South. We got to get going South and going to Massachusetts. They can't cross state lines. I know this because I had just watched the movie public enemies, which became my favorite movie of all time with Johnny Depp, where they couldn't cross state lines back then.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I was going to say, that sounds like something you saw, like, you know, It definitely, that's definitely something that, that one of like, like one of your stoner buddies tells you, listen, bro, we can go drive over the state line.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Right. Yeah. And then you base your entire several decisions that carry over the rest of your life on, on the fact that your stoner buddy said he, I know what I'm doing. Oh, well, trust me. All right. Trust me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
You have a vast experience in being a bricklayer or working in a convenience store, and that's your experience based on this law that doesn't exist. So what happens? They call ahead. They're waiting for you.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Well, I know they're going to be waiting when we get off the exit, so – We hit the emergency crossover right before the exit. And right as we're trying to maneuver in between vehicles, they try to box us in. We spin out. We go around them over the crossover. Now we're heading south. There's no traffic heading south.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
You know, nobody's heading back to Massachusetts after working in New Hampshire all week. So we wind up. hitting 93 South. Our plan is to go into Massachusetts. It's only a couple exits away, like three exits away. All of a sudden traffic starts slowing down, slowing down. We hit over into the breakdown lane. We're doing like at least 115, 120.
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All of a sudden we see the stop sticks get thrown out in front of the car. Oh, my co-defendant just At this speed, you cannot make a conscious decision to do anything other than how your body reacts when you see stop sticks get thrown in front of you at 120. And he swerves around him. It takes out the right tires on the right side of the vehicle.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And it also the left tires run over the foot of the police officer that was deploying the stop sticks because he got the string on the stop sticks stuck in his boot and he was trying to untangle it. It ripped his boot off, sent his boot flying across the highway because of where they found the boot.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
They actually wrote the crash report up to make it sound like we crossed two lanes of traffic and went out of our way to run this cop over. It was just that's how far the boot flew when it ripped the boot off when a boot got ripped off of his foot. So now we have two tires and all you can hear is which is the wheels grinding into the pavement. And there's rubber.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Lying up over the hood, blue smoke everywhere from burnt rubber. It's a mess. And my co-defendant's like flipping out. He throws me a gram of Coke and he goes, mix it. Now I'm mixing shots of Coke while we're in the middle of a high speed chase.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And are you still thinking you're going to get away with it if you get over the state line?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
That's still in my mind because we haven't actually made it over the state line yet. So, oh, the stop sticks also took out a cruiser, the very next cruiser behind us. So they, one of the cruisers was out of the race. They tried deploying stop sticks again, right before we get to the state line and we swerve around them.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I don't know how, because I had to hold the wheel for my co-defendant while he shot up and we had no traction at all. I don't know how he managed to keep us on the road as long as he did with two tires, but he did. So next thing you know, we go around another set of stop sticks, takes out another cruiser behind us. We get a couple exits into Massachusetts.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And finally, my co-defendant, as soon as we get over the state line, he looks behind us and goes, they're still following us.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
What do I do? What do I do?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
That's crazy. Yeah, I'm like, they're not supposed to. I didn't know about the hot pursuit law where they can just radio ahead and be like, yeah, we're in hot pursuit. We're coming in.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Right. I saw Public Enemies and their laws predate Smokey and the Bandit. That's why.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Yeah, that's exactly.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So we get off in Drake at Massachusetts is when we decide to get off the highway. And I don't know. I still don't know how we got off the highway because it was one lane and there was a lot of backed up traffic. Like somehow we managed to get up on the side and go around some vehicles. And now we're on the double yellow.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And we're driving cars off both sides of the road because we're trying to outrun the cops. And it gets so dangerous, the cops actually stop following us. And when we realized they stopped following us, my co-defendant's like, what are we going to do? I'm like, we need to stop another vehicle and hijack their car. Yes, carjacking.
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Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
That is the way to go.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Absolutely, that's the way to go in this situation. We need a new car. We need to get away. He's like, well, what do I do? I go hit somebody in the rear quarter panel. It's going to slow us down because we don't have brakes because we're missing two tires. And it's also going to make them pull over. We do that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
He happens to hit the one car that has a car load of Dominican and Puerto Rican dudes in it. Like I jump out of the airbag, hits me in the face. I jump out of the car. I start running towards the car. We're going to carjack. Four people get out. I immediately don't even miss a beat. Now I run towards the right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I'm going to hit the guardrail and hop in the river, swim across the river, the Merrimack River, which is like the biggest river up there. And that's how I'm going to get away. They come right around the corner and tackle me. Do you still have the $800? What? Do you still have the $800? Oh, I missed that part. So I took half the money, right? Right. And gave it to my co-defendant.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And I took the other half and I rolled it up in a tube, in a tube about this big. Right. And I tucked it in between my butt cheeks is what I did with it. And it stayed there rather well for a while, at least. And that'll come up later. So then. I'm right before the guardrail. The cops are still following us, so I find out, but they had slowed down. They come around the corner. They see me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
They jump out of the vehicle, tackle me. They're punching me in the back of the head. What's your name? Fuck you. Boom, boom, boom. What's your name? Fuck your mother. Boom, boom, boom. They get me all cuffed up. I don't know what's going on with my co-defendant. I found out that he got out of the car and ran in the opposite direction of the car we were supposed to carjack.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I still don't know why to this day. um they actually tackled they didn't tackle him they tased him in the river for 26 seconds it was on the taser report um one of the cops that was wrestling with him in the river after the words lost his gun and his flashlight in the river um they finally get us in the back of cruisers they read me my rights and I'm like, yeah, I think I'll take the lawyer.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
They read him his rights and they go, we just want to know who's driving the car. He goes, I don't know what car you're talking about. So they get us to the state trooper barracks in North Andover, Mass. And as we're walking up the stairs, I go looking at my co-defendant and he is he was 200 pounds, six foot two when he got out of prison four months earlier. He was about 150 pounds.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Now, he was strung out when I got out a month after him. And he's soaking wet and he just has this look of devastation on his face. And I go, hey, pick. And he goes looking at me. I go, hey, man, I don't know about you, but I had fun today. And I'm doing it mainly I'm doing it for his sound, his peace of mind.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
But I'm also doing it for the cops, because at this point in my life, I hate the police, kill the cops. I hope they all die. Blah, blah, blah. You know, it doesn't matter that they're the ones that are out here protecting your family while you're sitting your ass in prison because of the choices you made. Right. So.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I'm getting booked and this detective comes walking in and I and it's obvious to me that he's a detective. And he goes walking out back to the holding cells. And I hear him screaming. He goes, you either robbed a bank or you drove the car. Which is it? And at this point, I realized, well, this is where I'm going to find out if my co-defendant is going to be solid and tell on me or not.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Cop comes walking out 30 seconds later, pissed. They bring me out to the holding cells, bring him out to book him. I'm still cuffed up. So I'm sitting on the floor of the holding cell with cuffs behind me. And this guy who's obviously a detective, he has his badge on his belt, comes walking in, same guy goes walking in.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
He goes, uh, you either robbed the bank or you drove the car, which is, and I go, are you my lawyer? He's like, I'm not your lawyer. I'm like, well, I asked for a lawyer. He goes, you either robbed the bank or you drove the car, which is it? And I go, He goes, do you know how much time you're looking at? You're looking at three class A felonies. That's 21 years in prison.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And I go, apparently you can't do math, retard. That's 22 and a half years in prison. Go ahead, run that concurrent with the prison sentence I'm going to do already. Fuck you. And he storms off. We get brought to the county jail. First thing they do is strip me out. That's when the money comes back up. They literally, they're doing the, all right, bend over, cough.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I do that real quick and spend, hold on, hold on. What's that? Just money. And I say it like it's the most natural, like everyone gives money. Why wouldn't there be money tucked in between my ass cheeks? And they take me, they put me on drug watch now. So they put me on drug watch. OK, so now I got a shit. This is something they do in prison when they think you might have drugs inside of you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
They will put you in a room with nothing but a toilet with a trash bag over it to collect your waste or they'll bring you a bucket to defecate in for when you say you finally need to go. So they kept me there for a few days until I finally went to the bathroom and then they let me out into the shoe. We go to court on Monday. By now, they've literally just thrown me in a cell and left me there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Haven't said anything to me, wouldn't even give me toilet paper, that type of thing. You know, they're like, oh, they tried to kill a cop. Fuck them. That's that's the type of treatment you get. My co-defendant's super dope sick, so he spends his whole time in medical. They take us to court Monday.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And the first lawyer that comes down and talks to us says, listen, if you waive extradition, they're going to take you back to New Hampshire today. And I'm like, all right, let's go. We get up to the courthouse. We waive extradition. They immediately take us into custody and take us to New Hampshire where they book us at the police station and arraign us at court $400,000 cash only bail.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
The next day, they take us back to the state prison. Because of the notoriety, they take my co-defendant directly to SHU. My charge is criminal liability for the conduct of another for attempted second-degree murder on a police officer. It's a very long charge. So it only shows up as criminal liability as a pending charge, which doesn't sound bad at all.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
But when you read the whole thing, you realize... You're looking at just as much time as the guy that was arrested for attempted murder on a police officer. Right. And I need to be near my co-defendant. We have to talk, obviously. We need to get our story straight so we can try to figure out how we can salvage this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Not to mention how many other cases might be coming down from all the other crap we've done in the last 90 days. But, you know, this is the worst one that we got in front of us. Let's just deal with this one. So... I go out of my way to pick a fight with the first person that just looks at me wrong. And I get in a fight. I go to Shu. Now I'm in Shu. Well, they won't let me anywhere near him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
Won't let us in the same wing so he's above me or I'm below him. And that's where they kept us until they wound up indicting us. We went to the federal courthouse and that was the last time I actually was in the same room as him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I put a plan together. I got up a few guys that I knew and I said, you know what? I want to go back and hit that door. I want to hit that store. I want to go and do and this is what we're going to do. I know everything to lay out inside and out. So we got everything we need, all the necessary material, all the equipment that it was going to take to pull it off.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And, um, that morning, which was like on a Friday, I wanted to hit it when I thought they had the most money inside the customer service and the most money inside of the safe. So I had set up a plan for one guy to go over to the produce area because I know there was a phone in there and I know I didn't want anyone getting to that phone.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And one guy washed the door and one guy went up to the customer service with me. So, um, We achieved my goal. I went inside approximately like 9, 30, 10 o'clock in the morning. I know it wouldn't be that busy, but...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
everything would be on hand um i successfully pulled it off made it back i think we probably got like 15 000 17 000 or something from from that that um that heist um so i divided that that money up amongst us i think it was four people i divided that money up in uh I went about my business. So once that money was spent, I say, you know what? we're going to go do the other one.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
So I got my guys together and we decided we're going to go do the other one. And I went to the one on Hillsboro and I also did that one. The craziest thing about this one was that I took every coin that was in the safe. I took all the bills. It was like, I'll say like six, seven hundred dollars in ones.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
There was like five hundred dollars in quarters, a couple hundred dollars in dimes, nickels and pennies. But the reason why I say that, because on the way out, I had so much weight inside the duffel bag. It was hard for me to get it on my shoulder to try to get it out the door. So one of the guys was trying to help me. I had it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
um a bag boy trying to uh intervene trying to stop us or something but my guy you know did what he had to do to keep him from intervening and um by the time i made it to the car got the bag in there made it to the second car it was a wrap but as time as time went from there i i did end and not jobs um I worked at car dealerships.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I worked at Ed Morris Cadillac probably from the year from 90, 91, 92, 93. I started my bank robbery career around 93, 94. And I got in that just simply by my brother-in-law. Knew a guy who wanted to rob a bank. Now, I, you know, growing up as a kid, you hear people say, oh, yeah, I want to rob a bank, man. I don't know where you got to rob a bank. You got to rob a bank to get that kind of money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
And I was like, damn, robbing a bank. If you rob a bank, you'd be a millionaire, man. You know, that's the mentality you had growing up as a kid, as a young adult. So. My brother-in-law came to me one day. He was like, hey, man, check this out. I know this guy, man, this white guy. He want to rob a bank. You know, he looking for somebody he know easily. I was like, yeah. Bring him to me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Matt Cox on the Smartest Bank Heists in History
I want to know. I want to meet him. Bring him over here. So like two days later, he brought the guy over. You know, we sat and talked for a minute.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They never come back and say, wow, we were mocking you about that. You were actually right about that. They don't ever come back and say those things. Like, yeah, that was... My bad. Didn't mean to do that. Didn't realize. You know what? You were right on that.
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And they're already trying to, trying to ask him to settle it. And he said, he's saying, no, no, I'm going all the way, all the way there. They're like, let's settle. Let's settle. Let's settle. Of course you want to settle. You guys are constantly settling when you're, when you're blatantly lying all the time, you have to start settling. You can't, I can't go to trial. Yeah.
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And I certainly don't want to go to trial where people, where they're going to invite cameras in or the media in and, and the truth may be exposed. God forbid. I don't want that to happen. Let's settle.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like, you're saying the PSYOP, or that you're saying that they're trying to slowly...
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you know slowly get us to be okay right with seeing drones in the air well it's the same kind of thing as like to me the aliens thing you were mocked mercilessly when i was growing up if somebody said that they had seen like like a ufo or something you would have mocked that that person is losing their job nobody will ever take them seriously you're a joke for the rest of your life
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But now the Navy's talking about, now they've got videos of UFOs and pilots all over the place are coming out saying, yeah, I've seen them.
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You really can't or you end up feeling foolish later.
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um, of Hiroshima or something, you know, they could still be huge. Like, you know, those small bombs that they had to put these big, the size of a car could fit into a suitcase now. So, but let's assume that either way, if they could just come up with the material, they come with a dirty bomb. So whatever. So let's say they had some kind of bomb, whatever it was, it was putting off enough,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So I do interviews for Home Title Lock, which is a company that protects people, homeowners, protects homeowners against a title theft. So they, they monitor your title. And if something happens to your title, then they notify you and say, Hey, did you just, did you just transfer the deed to your house? And then you're like, no, I didn't. And then of course they contact the law enforcement.
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They put, they, they, they file something on you. They do what they have a whole series of things that they do to try and stop whatever's happening. Someone selling your house, whatever they do a whole thing. And then if something does happen, they actually will, will hire an attorney and they'll fix it anyway. So I do these interviews, right?
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And I've been interviewed by everybody, Steve Bannon, like what's the cop, the former cop? Oh, gosh. Officer Tate. Like I probably there's five or six of these guys that I've been interviewed by. And. And people send me stuff because they see me doing these interviews. People contact me all the time, like and send me stuff.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Somebody sent me a video the other day where this person was selling their house. And they did because you don't have to show up for a closing in most states. Sure. There's like 13 states where I think you still have to show up. Most of them, if you're just selling the house, you don't have to show up. You do what's called it's a remote closing and you have a remote notary.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But they do see, they do have to see you. So you have to do like a Zoom thing. So the person, you've got the buyer and the real estate agent and the title person. All on camera. And you've got the seller. Now, before the closing, when they sign the sales contract, they got a copy of the driver's license. Okay. They fax it or they email it to you. You sign it. You send it back.
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Copy of your driver's license. That's fine. Then... You go to the closing and at the closing, the closing agent, like in most states, it's a closing agent. There are some states where it's a real estate attorney, whatever. The closing person is there watching this or having this conversation on Zoom and they're sending documents back and forth.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Of a signature that the military had drones that they had circling, looking for this bar, these bombs or the signature, so they could pinpoint it and grab them. Now, I'm assuming they didn't grab anything because you would have that's something that they would have. They would have broken their own arms, trying to pat themselves on the bat.
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And the woman, they ask her at one point, like, can you send us a copy of your driver's license? She does. They said it was definitely looked like the woman in the driver's license. But while they're talking, And nobody else notices but the title person, not the real estate agent, not the buyer. While they're talking, first of all, this is what the person looked like, right?
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They're standing there like this. It's an older woman, and she's kind of doing this. It's kind of just – Moving side to side just slightly. It's very odd, like not moving. It's almost like a photograph, right? It's not a photograph because the person talks. But when it's not talking, it doesn't do the normal things that a person does.
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Like it does blink, you know, but it's just weird kind of bobbing motion. And so the person asked, the title person asked them some questions. So this was like a... a reel or something that I got from somebody who was like, bro, check this out. And this was somebody who had been interviewed for a TV, for like a news program saying, listen to this. This is how insane it's getting.
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And while they're talking, so the woman says to her, you know, Hey, Mrs. So-and-so, do you, are you, ask her a question? And then there's a, there's a moment of pause. And then she's like, yes, that's fine. It's like, okay. And they were like, but it didn't seem natural. Keep in mind, most people aren't watching. Nobody else noticed. You know, they just want to sign and get it.
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Like, I'm not trying to figure out if this is fraud, if this is a real person. But the notary wants to make sure this is a real person.
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And most notaries don't care. I got the ID. Yeah, it looks like her. Great. I'm going to email you this. Sign this. Sign this. Email it back. We're done.
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Just happened this woman noticed it. And at one point, she's like, can you raise your left hand? And she sat there. Okay. Thank you. You know what I'm saying? It's like... And then it's I'm going to need you to raise your left hand. You know, I'm saying started asking her to do things.
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Wouldn't do it. And then then eventually they closed. They just turned it off. This was somebody. And I hate to say this. I'm going to say India, you know, India or, you know, Nigeria or wherever the Pakistan, wherever the scammers are, you know, like some scammer who.
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You know, had this bot that probably would have, you know, or AI generated old woman that would have would have probably passed muster pretty much with anybody. This woman just happened to catch it. Yeah, it was. It was insane. And the other thing, have you seen these masks?
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It's amazing. And you can put them on there. They're saying, cause I watched a thing on it. They were, they were saying, you know, you don't understand. They're so good. You can have a conversation and it's, it's borderline passable.
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If they said, yes, we had drones, we were prepared for this. We found it. We've raided the house. We grabbed the bomb. Everything is safe. That's what I think they probably would do. to let everybody know we're on it, we got you.
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Now, could you imagine putting that on and it being, and, and being on a zoom? It's definitely passable on a Zoom. You put on an old man mask.
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Or you don't even need one because they don't know what the guy sounds like. They were trying to steal this woman's identity. To me, with the driver's license, I'll just put the picture of the mask on there.
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Take a bunch of pictures of the mask with a thing. I'll take a picture. Cause you're showing, you're not sending them physical ID. I'll just make a fake ID and have it on there and show it to them. Scan it, send it to them when they say, Oh yeah, no, no problem. I'm here. Ready, ready to go. My left hand.
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It's like it's a stocking. It's a stocking. Yeah. But no, but I'm talking about like the real mass that you can make. These things are insane.
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Get out of here.
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They absolutely are. You've seen them blowing them up like it's it's insane. Just straight into the tank. Boom. Straight into three guys. Boom.
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So I have a question. Did you see the... I want to say celebration or festival, whatever, in Dubai where they used the drones? Was it Dubai or was it Singapore? Dubai, Singapore. I think it was Dubai. And it was...
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I would like to think that they would, but you're probably right. That's something they'd probably still bury.
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insane thousands of drones yeah and they've got they got pictures in the skies they've got they're interacting with each other there are people they've got human beings that are kissing they've got it's dragons they've got it's and it's it's insane anything like that because you might you take that and you go back 300 years, you could rule the world.
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You know, you could just absolutely just, you know, you walk out and you say, well, I'm going to have my dragons come and burn the entire city down. And suddenly three dragons roll up and they're sitting there. I'm going to have them burn them down right now. And they'd be like, oh, wait, we'll give you whatever you want.
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So the drones that I'm aware of is what Danny Jones and Julian Dory were talking about on their shows and that we've talked about because I text them and we text back and forth. And they are both big conspiracy theorists. Danny was telling me what Julian thinks. So initially, he was saying they were military drones that...
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Because you don't, you know, you see something, you see technology that is, you know, even slightly, um slightly further evolved than what you're used to it's what is that that there's a saying that it's indistinguishable from magic yeah so if there's technology that's you know a
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beyond what you're used to it it's almost it almost seems like magic like that's what my fuck my that's what my my phone was when i first grabbed my iphone i was like this is magic bro yeah like this is insane how and how you know if you don't if you're not seeing the technology evolve slowly then when you see it's like you know it's like going to going back you know 500 years and pulling out an iphone i mean people would just think like oh my god they lose their minds yeah
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To me, I would come out and say, listen, this is what happened. They got it in here. They shouldn't have. They did. But we were prepared. We got it. I think that's what you do just to get more money. You know what I'm saying? That's the kind of thing that they do is they let you know there's this horrible thing that's happening.
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That's what I thought was so odd is that they're so big. Everybody's been saying, no, no, these are big. These are really big. And that, to me, has got to be military. Like, you know, the average person's not putting that together.
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Or, you know, the other thing I was saying, this was before I heard the... But this was what in the early stages, I didn't know how big these things were. Like, look, this could be a group of kids that have drones.
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It could have been 12 kids that say, listen, you know, it would be great. Let's go ahead at 10 o'clock at night. Let's all fly our drones. We'll go around these areas and we'll circle. Then we'll do TikTok. We'll video them and do TikToks about how they're this or what were there.
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You know what? They're being spotted everywhere and we'll get a whole thing. We'll try and go viral.
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you know that kind of thing yeah but then it evolved to no no these are big these are matt these are very very large drones and then as it evolved and then the government started coming out saying you know what they were what they thought they were yeah and then trump came out and then i thought okay well that's this is probably what's going on you know and they just don't want to tell us why they wouldn't tell us you know i i get you're saying well they don't want to take responsibility because maybe they snuck a bomb in or something but
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I think that's what it was. I think it was just a spy balloon that was flying over the United States. That's just what it was. Listen, right now they have ships that are going back and forth through the ocean to catch fiber optic lines. just so that they could catch them in case they want to cut them or snap them.
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They're actually dragging anchors across the ground to try and catch these fiber optic lines between Singapore and whatever, the Netherlands or wherever they are. These things are everywhere. They're trying to find them so that they can find them and tag them because if we have a war, we can cut them. They're always doing something slimy.
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I think it – for the foreseeable future we're going to need boots on the ground at some point like you're right they can soften them up really soften up whoever, you know, an enemy with drones, with airstrikes. There's a ton of stuff you can do, but at some point you have to have boots on the ground.
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The thing is, is that in the five to 10 years, those boots on the ground could just be, you know, Tesla bots. You know, a version of the Tesla bot, you know, because the Tesla bot right now, it's functional. And when they say, oh, they'll be selling for whatever, $30,000, $40,000. And yeah, but I've seen them. And yeah, it's pretty cool. But it's gimmicky. You know what I'm saying?
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And the only way to fix it is we're going to tax you more so we can get more money so we can dump more money into security.
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Like, I don't see these things really doing what a normal person... If you hired a maid to clean your house, I don't think you're going to get the same dexterity out of a Tesla buy. Five years from now... You definitely will. It's like when the self-driving cars first came out, like they're bumping into stuff there. They're stopping there, you know, but now now they're phenomenal.
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Now they're going into all kinds of places where it's like, OK, we don't have this thing tracked and they're still able to do it. They're really, really, you know, becoming amazing. And that's what happens. The technology comes out. You have some problems. They keep tinkering with it. And five, 10 years later, it's like this is this is insane how good this is.
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I haven't gave up on cars, bro. I don't even have a car. I just Uber everywhere. Or Jess drives me.
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That's it. Just drives me just my Uber right now or right now. But I mean, yeah.
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Right. And what I was going to say, and then Trump, of course, I don't think he would have a problem. Saying that because then he gets to blame somebody, right? He gets to blame the Biden administration. Well, they weren't strong on this, but we're going to fix that and we're going to. But then again, he's not in yet. But he said something where he's like, look, I know about the drone situation.
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You still need the gas. Let's face it. If the entire structure... You know, infrastructure goes down, gas is going to dry up pretty quickly, but but regardless of what I'm saying is. I don't have a vehicle I Uber like, I'm not talking about electric. Sure. I'm saying I just Uber or Jess and we have a gas vehicle because. there's no way Jess would allow me to get an electric vehicle.
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It just wouldn't happen. Like, so look, just even the look on her face now, it's just irritated. Just even thinking about it, she gets mad.
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What's really going to be cool is when you can buy an electric vehicle and And actually, I thought it was supposed to be coming out in 2025 where you can buy a Tesla, a self-driving Tesla, and you can put it on an app. And then you can go to work. You can put it on the app, make it go live, go to work. And while you're at work, it's doing Uber. Like it's basically doing an Uber service.
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And then it comes back to you at the, you know, when you get off work, hey, be back here by 530. You show up, it shows up. So basically it's making enough money to easily pay for itself while I'm working. Same thing with a Tesla bot. People are like, oh, you know, 40, 50,000. That's a lot. Well, that's not a lot for a factory worker who works 24 hours a day, pays for itself in six months.
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right because you're not working you're not even working 40 hours a week you're working 24 hours a day non-stop that thing in six months it pays for itself like that's that wipes out an entire that wipes off the uh the labor force
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It doesn't matter. There's still, let's say you, you have to have somebody to monitor. Oh, you have to have somebody to monitor them and fix them. Okay, great. So for every thousand of them, you need an extra employee or two or for every 500, you need an extra employee. Okay. Well, that's still 499 jobs that are gone.
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We know what it is. We know what they are, why they're not telling the American people. He said, I don't know.
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You get to a point where there's either universal income of some kind or you
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Yeah, some of the most unhappy people I know are people that don't have a purpose. You could have all the money in the world you want, but if you don't have a purpose every day or a long-term goal that you're working toward, typically those people are pretty miserable.
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don't really understand why they're miserable yeah well you don't really have a reason to get out of bed you don't have a goal that you're working towards every day you don't you don't have a purpose and you know that that that's a that's a huge a huge thing as far as um feeling good about yourself
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So let's say they started building robots. Let's say it took – 10, 15 years to replace, completely replace. You'd replace a lot like, you know, manual labor, service jobs, like almost, let's say 70% of the jobs. And those people are sitting at home with nothing to do and no income. That's the problem is you suddenly have riots in the street because they don't have the income to feed themselves.
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And, and, And if they can't feed themselves, then you have to provide them with some kind of income. So you provide them with income. Then you've got, God, I'll bet you've got mass, what do you want to say, offing themselves or what, unaliving people, unaliving themselves, you know.
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making tons of antidepressants and stuff but you know so I don't know what happens like you can't you can't have an entire civilization you can you can't pay these people you live in the pod and you eat the bugs yeah is is I think the
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Well, I mean, we're starting to – even if they wanted to implement that right now in restaurants all over the world, how long does that take? It takes a while. You've got to build these robots. You know, you've got to build the robots. You have to have people put them in.
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Like five or 10 years, it slowly happens. But when it does happen, it's a problem.
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There's a lot of McDonald's. There's a lot of fast food places.
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You've had more attention. when you weren't president than the current president. You know what kills me about that, too, is how upset everybody is and how people are willing to take the current political climate into their own hands instead of saying, hey, more than half the country voted for this man to be president. That's just the way it is. Like, that's the same way with Biden.
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We've got to be on the compound by then.
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And it just looks like a box with a barrel sitting out of it, right? And what it's filled with is...
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uh uh pepper spray or pepper remember it's the um what is it not pepper spray yeah mace balls or something where they shoot so it's basically it's it's um paintballs yeah so it's you remember i sent that to you you probably don't watch you don't watch any of the things i send you anyway boy but let me tell you when i come down and she said did you watch those two oh oh yeah
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right it's on a pole and it's it outside your house and anytime it senses something like somebody comes into your yard it and then it it tells them to leave and if they don't leave it gets those little countdown and it follows you and it just and it shoots mace balls at you yeah pepper spray ball pepper balls at you yeah right like how
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Yes. Even thinking about it is cheating.
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Even if it's not cheating, it's weird.
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Did you ever see cherry 2000? The guy has a, it's when you can get, you can get a robot like the, the Megan, you can get one and she's your girlfriend. So you don't, yeah, because, because hooking up becomes so transactional in the future that, people start opting for these robots. And this guy has his robot and he like falls in love with her. Yeah.
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Something happens where her chip is out of date and they don't make the chip anymore. So he has to hire somebody to go in and find a robot in the forbidden zone where, you know, and to find one and to find the chip or something to replace the chip in his Cherry 2000 robot.
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Or you just wait a few more years and they do look like Megan Fox.
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We're going to see. Hopefully I'm right.
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I guess there's two things I'd like to be around for. One, I'd like to see, I would really like to see how these androids um you know evolve and two i'd really like to see if we go to mars you know humans go to mars i mean i think i think that probably they send like tesla bots there first or something to build or
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now um but i'd like to really see that i think that's super interesting i don't find them attractive at all but but i would like to see i do think that ultimately that's that's kind of cool yeah robots that but but isn't that weird i've got a five-year-old son and he's going to be like when he's 15 that's 10 years from now yeah i can i i
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Whether you believe they were stuffing ballots or they weren't, he won the presidency. That's the way it is. This is the way our system works. Step back. Let it run its course. You don't get to go out there and start popping people. I mean, and not just that, but, you know, Biden was there for four years. And was it a great presidency? Probably not, in my opinion.
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It was a whole.
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Two out of three. Two out of three relationships were met on a dating app. If you really think about it, how stupid is it to go to a bar? You're going to search the whole night, talk to several women, probably not end up with any of them, and spend hours and hours and hours talking to one or two women, and it's over. It never ends up going anywhere.
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You could spend that same amount of time and hit up 150 of them, And 15 are interested and seven of them end up being dates. And I mean, really, it doesn't take that long.
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Yeah, you got you got to go. You do a Starbucks run. You meet him for Starbucks, you know, within five minutes, you're like, yeah, it's not going to happen. But that's still a lot less time than going to bar after bar after bar after bar.
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It was probably just starting off when you met your wife 18 years ago. It was just...
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I mean, I've only, I've only seen them on the, like a, a short that's talking about them. Like I've never actually, I, my understanding is that like on Instagram there, some of them have like millions of followers on Instagram and they're,
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But I survived it. It's going to be okay.
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So what? are everywhere and people start to have problems feeding themselves and they're broke and they're being kicked out of their houses and there is no universal income and even if you do inflation is the government can't figure it out because they can't pretty much figure out anything and so what happens do humans rebel decide, hey, you know what? This is not working.
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We need to go back to the old ways.
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So you just go on the website and it tells you what to do.
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Well, I mean, that's basically what I do with YouTube. Anytime I have a problem now, I just go to YouTube and say, Hey, you know, how do I do such and such? And it gives me 150 videos and I pick one of them. And then I sit there with my phone and I, okay. And then
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50% on chat, GPT. Like, so far, I get all kinds of erroneous bullshit. And I'll also get, it will make stuff up.
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Yeah, it can.
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It will completely make stuff up. Like, I was researching, I've been researching a book about a serial killer. Okay. I won't get too into it because it's insane. But... It's a lot of fun. Anyway, the point is that I'm finding these dates. I have to find dates. Now, I was going through dates.
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I was going to the websites, the national websites, like NamUs, and going to it, and I would look it up, and I'd go this date, and then I'd type in the date, the location. I'd actually look it up and find out how many people, and I was doing it. you know, manually. I also did it for cold case files, right? I'm looking for missing people and unsolved murders.
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Well, you know, I keep people keep saying, oh, you got to go to chat GPT, go to chat GPT. Well, I've pulled up chat GPT before and I've done it like, hey, anybody missing in Austin, Texas on this day, any missing persons. And sometimes it'll say no. And then, or I'll say, you know, unsolved murder. And it might pull up some of them. And sometimes it'll pull it up close to the date, right?
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Which is fine. But the thing is, it gives me the source. I got this from three sources. I got, you know, ABC News, such and such news, cold case. Okay, great. You can click on it, go to it. Well, yesterday I was looking for, I have very specific dates, right? So I need a date on this one date. And I looked up unsolved. And so I've done that before and I was clicking on it.
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I'm still not getting good information, not as good as I can get going to websites myself or going and looking it up and reading the thing. It takes a lot longer. I have to read the article. I have to figure out, okay, this isn't the right person, this person, whatever. ChatGPT has not been great doing that. But the other day I went and I said, on this day in, you know,
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in Los Angeles, California, you know, I need to find, you know, are there any missing persons or any unsolved murders or unsolved homicides on this date? And I clicked it and it came back and it said, yes, there was. And it told me the name of the person, told me a whole little blurb about how they were murdered, the whole thing. Shot, boom. Just like a normal one that I've been looking up.
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And I highlighted and checked it and went to another one. Only this time I said, instead of saying homicide, I said homicides, plural. And it came up with a double murder. For another date. Oh, that's weird. And then I went and I instead what I did was I just changed the date. You know, you can cut and paste and change the date. And boom, it came up with another double murder. And I went.
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Now, it's six months between these two dates. But I went. What are the chances that another double murder happened six months apart in the same city? Almost, it was a slightly different, different names, different ages, slightly different, different areas. Did it again. Did you ask for a citation? By the third one is when I realized, hey, wait a minute.
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Because, you know, it keeps what you've been doing. So I start scrolling up. There's no citations.
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And I'm looking. There's nothing. And then I took the information and I plug it in to Google. Nothing. No murders. Did all of them. It was making it up. It's realizing this is what you're looking for. I can't find it. I'll give you one.
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Listen, the other day, me and a buddy, this was actually two, three months ago, I say the other day. Two, three months ago, we were arguing, and I was like, no, no, no. And you know what we were talking about? He was saying, you know, he's always complaining about, you know, inequities. So he, you know, oh, well, you know, most rich people were born and they were just, you know, born with money.
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And I went, what do you mean? Like they inherited it? And he's like, yeah, I'm like, no, it's like less than like 20% of people inherit any wealth at all that are rich. And most of those people lose it. So most multimillionaires inherited probably less than 10% inherited their wealth. He's, oh, that's not true. That's not true. And then he asked ChatGPT.
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And it gave him an answer of like 50% of millionaires inherited their wealth. And I went, now keep in mind, I've already looked up the information. a week or so earlier. And I went, no, that's not true.
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I just saw it. It's right here.
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It's right here. I said, bullshit. I went and looked it up on Google and found multiple statistics. And then he went back to chat GPT and said, hey, is this statistic correct? Is it less than 12% or 8%, whatever I had said? And then it came back and it said, Yes.
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Listen, he, he, he, I mean, I don't know about an M8. I mean, it's like he throws like it's, it's, it's a, it's a dozen hand grenades. Like I said, I love watching it. I mean, it's great. But the only, my only, I think my only problem right now is that, is that because of the elections and, During the month of November, YouTube just went, our viewers were just shot straight down.
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After reviewing the information and the percentage you have, I found multiple websites that say that this is the accurate information and that less than 12% of millionaires inherited any portion of their wealth. And it said, I am now updated. And then it said, I had apologized for the inaccuracy earlier and said, this is the accurate result.
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And I was like, bro, you got to stop using this fucking thing.
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I know guys that are trying to write books with this thing and they're like, Oh yeah, they wrote my whole book. And I'm like, well, you must be an idiot because whenever I've had it, write anything, it's so vague and so bad at it.
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These guys don't want to get that. Their whole thing is they don't, they don't want to go back and do anything like that. Well, like they just wanted to write it and be done was like, okay, what's not that good if you read it? You know, it doesn't make like what you're writing it. It sounds good, but it's not it doesn't give specifics It doesn't get create super creative.
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But you've got to prompt and prompt and prompt. It gets to the point where I might as well have written this thing.
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Yeah, that's just silly.
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So what do you think is going to happen with TikTok? An additional 90 days would at least give them an opportunity to try and sell it. First of all, the company, all they have to do is get rid of China. All they got to do is get rid of China. If they sell it to another company that comes in and here's the other thing, if there's such an issue
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And of course, everything's connected to views and watch time, right? Bad month in November. Then he gets elected. And then I thought, okay, after he's elected, people will start watching content again. And then what happened in December is the numbers stayed down. What's he going to do? Now it's January. They're still down because now they're like, he's about to be in.
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If TikTok has such an issue that they're saying, hey, this is unfair what you're doing, right? Like, you can't do that. You can't make us do that. Like, first of all, one of the things they're saying is, like, China has nothing to do with this. Oh, okay. Well, then sell it.
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If you have nothing to do with it and it's not a big deal and they have no influence, then they shouldn't have a problem selling it.
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I didn't have a problem when they did it to Ma Bell. I'd have a problem when they did. Would you rather have one company running all telecommunications? No, they broke it up. AT&T, they broke it up at all these different sprint. Like they've got all these different companies. Why? Because it's a monopoly.
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Well, as may not necessarily be a monopoly, but sometimes the government has to come in and Hey, listen, I made money on Tik TOK. I hope that they just turned this fucker back on, but I'm saying I'm not in that position. I'm not in a position to make, you know what I'm saying? You don't have me. You can't put someone like me in a position of power to make these determinations, right?
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So what I'm thinking is at some point, somebody has determined that people in Congress have determined that they feel they don't like the fact that that China owns a portion or owns a portion of the parent company of TikTok.
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Right. They don't like it. They don't like the fact that they have access or could have access to the information that TikTok can gather on American citizens. Now, you can make the argument they don't do that. That's not possible. But honestly, I don't believe anything, anything, that the Chinese government, the CCP, is it CCP?
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Yeah, Chinese Communist Party.
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I don't believe anything they say. So I don't believe anything that, like to me, I would just ban China altogether on buying their products. And people would come out and say, where are we going to get our chips? We're going to build them here. Where are they going to cost more? Well, then they'll cost more. I'm paying $1,000 for a cell phone now.
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We need to be manufacturing everything that has military base or technology base. You want them to make T-shirts? That's fine. They can make T-shirts. They can make plates. They can make stuff that we don't need. But we can't be going to war with a country and then going to them and asking them to provide the chips that run our tanks. That's just stupid.
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Or, hey, you're going to take out our entire infrastructure, our entire electrical grid. Could you send us over some power, some generators and some like what are you stupid? Like the things that Congress has allowed China or has allowed to be outsourced to China. Man, these guys should be. You know, I don't want to say executed, maybe.
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But, you know, like it's it's just these are just stupid, stupid, selfish decisions that are clearly based on some kind of a bias or being paid off that you're allowing the China to manufacture things that we need to run our country and steal our technology. I always loved the guys that were the wind turbines. Did you ever hear the story of the wind turbine?
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So these guys were outsourcing the construction of the wind turbines to make electrical power to China. And what China did was they stole the technology. And they started manufacturing themselves. And then they started selling to these guys' customers. And when they sued them and said, you're using our exact blueprints, China said, yeah, we disagree. And so they sued them. They won.
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And the Chinese government owes them or the Chinese company owes them half a billion dollars. And they said, yeah, we're not going to pay. OK, you're not going to pay. And you're selling our technology. to U.S. companies in the United States. And they're like, yeah. And they go to the United States and they go, we've got a $500 million judgment against this company. And they're like, yeah, I know.
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Yeah, we disagree. And they're like, they're not paying us. And you're allowing them to sell this equipment and this technology to our customers in the United States. And Congress just shrugged it off, like, oh, yeah, yeah. Like, you're not taking care of Americans.
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For some reason, the government didn't want to tell everybody what these drones were and that they had a viable lead that said that Iran had snuck like a dirty bomb or something into the United States and was going to blow it up during one of – one of Trump's speeches or something, whatever. They wanted him gone and they were going to blow it up.
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It's like, when is this going to end? And then I already know that when he gets in, we got February and March where he's going to disrupt the entire system. That's going to be even more people pulling away watching Netflix. Well, their normal content, they're going to be watching more political content. This guy's killing me right now.
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Either you can't function here or sell it.
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Come in and somebody buys it. That's what I think. Somebody comes in and buys it. That's what I think should happen. Someone comes in and buys it. Just like I don't think China or Chinese companies should be able to buy... It should be able to buy farmland in the United States. I don't think they should be able to buy any land.
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Yeah, exactly. This is how you do high-level math. Yeah, you're not making fun of China on TikTok in China. You're not making fun of... There's no political discussions. It's all about uplifting the Chinese people and there's not going to be a lot of funny videos unless they're... Yeah, I was going to say, like... uh, coordinated, you know, dance moves. And you know what I'm saying?
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Like it's, it's a different, it's a different platform over there.
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As much as I like seeing, you know, the, I guess from now on it'll be shorts and reels. You know, as much as I like watching this stuff and it just cracks me up. The fact that it's pulling away from views from. My channel is, you know, while I'm saying, you know, yeah, this is great. Oh, my gosh, I can't believe he said that. And oh, my gosh, I can't believe they said that.
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Well, yeah, I think I think Trump giving them 90 days and so back to that. Because we're not this discussion is not going to that's not going to go. It's going to go in circles. Well, actually, we probably have the same exact opinion. So it's not going to be sure. I agree. So, but, but as far as the band is concerned.
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Well, I think he's just saying 90 days. That doesn't mean I'm all for it. It's him saying, look, a lot of people make money on this app. let's go ahead and give them another 90 days. This is a guy who's been through the court system many, many times and probably thinks, Hey, let's give them 90 days to finalize a deal. Like you don't finalize a deal to two weeks.
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You know, when you realize you've lost it, like they went back and said, give us 90 days to the courts.
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Right. But they fought it. Remember?
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They went to, they, they used our court system, which was, we would never be able to use in there, right? So they said, oh, okay, we're going to use their court system. So they fight in our court system. We say that the government, I'm sorry, the Supreme Court says, eh, the Congress has every right to do that. They go, okay. And then they came back and they said, okay, fine, we get it.
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Give us 90 days. And they said, no, we're not going to give you 90 days. So I guess, you know, Trump is saying, hey, let's give them 90 days. Probably not because I'm giving you an extension. 90 days is not a, hey, Forget about that bill. 90 days is you got 90 days. You have to sell. Like, I understand you used our court system.
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And then at the last minute, they said they ruled with Congress and said, perfectly legal. And that only gave you a few weeks to try and figure out what you're going to do. That's really not enough time for a bureaucracy. Bureaucracies are slow and cumbersome, especially when you- It's a big deal too.
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Yeah, this is not a small platform. This is not a small deal. This is not something where Elon can come in, they can hammer it out over lunch. This is something that they're going to need to really sit down and it would be weeks, if not months of negotiations. So-
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And I can't believe and I'm going back and forth back and forth. I'm watching my numbers die.
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I mean, I think that'd be great if he came in and bought it.
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Now that Mark Zuckerberg's suddenly decided that he's all about free speech. Oh, he's based. I always was about free speech. I don't know.
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Yeah. But here's what bothers me. You've seen Elon go head to head against the. possible.
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Nobody was threatening to throw you in jail.
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Elon is that he's willing to scream from the mountaintops. He feels like something's being done that's, you know, immoral or unethical. And that scares them. And so they're kind of going to leave him alone. But, you know... But Elon is...
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The robots.
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Let's make these things affordable and have them clean our houses.
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Yeah, I was going to say, the book is called Social Network, right? Yeah, it was them, right?
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Like, Zuckerberg wouldn't... That being said...
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Everybody, what was that book syrup? Or I probably got this wrong, but I think it was syrup where it said like everybody in their lifetime has, it's like at least one or two multimillion dollar ideas. The problem is it's just, it's hard.
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Well, it's just, people are lazy. They just, you have to, you have to execute it. You have to push it. You have to stick with it. You have to like, it's, it's a lot to get that, to get something like that moving.
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Right. Yeah.
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They were watching YouTube.
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I was gonna say even even then you know, what was what was before Facebook MySpace? You know, it's not like this a new it was a new concept It was a slight alteration of an existing concept right existing platform. So who's exclusive that crushed is my space even still around that's sad anyway
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dating ourselves but i remember myspace this was yeah yeah so so yeah i think 90 give them 90 days they they figure out how to sell it off i don't know why you wouldn't sell if they don't sell it off still banned probably that's too bad yeah probably boy people are going nuts though yeah you see all these people crying on instagram
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You know, they're talking about the ones I saw were like, like, this is how I make my living. Sure. This is my entire living. Listen, Tom Simon is a retired FBI agent that is now a licensed private investigator in Florida. I see him all the time. He's been on the show a bunch of times. I see him all the time on Instagram. Right.
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But the other day he was like, what do you think about the TikTok thing? I was like, yeah, I mean, we make decent money on TikTok. Like, I would hate to see that go away. But, you know, who knows? And I said, why? Because I wasn't even thinking. And he was like, because I get the bulk of my clients from TikTok. And I was like, oh, like, I only see him.
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I really don't go on TikTok except to check my account.
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I like the content that is on Instagram and YouTube better than TikTok for some reason. It seems very negative. My TikTok, whatever I've done to myself, has really just messed me up. Like, it's very negative. Like, I get a lot of negative political ads on TikTok. So I don't typically go on there other than to check my account, my stuff.
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So, but apparently he's huge on TikTok and he was like, yeah, that's the bulk of my clients come from my TikTok. And so I was on Instagram this morning. People are already leaving videos like, oh my God, like, you don't understand. This is my entire, like I, this is my job. Like I make all of my money. So tons of influencers are coming out saying like, what's happening? Like,
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So it's devastating to a lot of people.
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I hope they sell it. I hope they just sell it and fix the problem and sell it. Like, honestly, that's what I hope happens so that everybody can get, you know, get their income back and people that enjoy it can go back to it.
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And so that impacts their viewership that impacts the amount of like, to me, that might, it may be, if it stayed closed, it may be a huge boost to me. Right. Cause we have We have shorts. We have a shorts channel.
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Yeah. Congress never passes any laws that say, eh, you know what? This is excessive.
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Can you imagine if they wouldn't just start gutting? I mean, there are so many. Okay, I love that Trump, like the ATF.
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Alcohol is legal. Tobacco is legal. Firearms are legal. Why do we have an ATF? Like, honestly, the laws that they're enforcing can be enforced by any local sheriff.
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We don't need stings and all these things. Any local sheriff's department can enforce like that whole that whole group can be wipe them off.
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We really don't need 6,500 agents. We could scale this back and do the same thing with 2,200.
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right well and and whatsapp um and meta right well you got google telegram uh owns youtube right right like i mean a lot of these these guys i i think that you you get to a point where they own too much and have too much control and then i think the government comes in and says you've got a monopoly here and breaks them apart yeah which i have no problem with that you know people that you know oh that's unfit no that's perfectly fair like look if you give people a monopoly
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then they will absolutely gouge the living hell out of you. Like nobody is taking over all of these companies and then deciding to do something for the greater good. Like that's just doesn't, that's not happening. That's not how they function. They function by making all of their board of directors happy and all the people that have invested in them happy.
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And those people complain, why are we making more money? Well, how do I make you more money? I provide less of a service and I charge you more for it. And if I don't have any competition, then the gloves are off. I can gouge the living hell out of my customer base. And there's nobody to come forward and say, hey, we're going to rival you.
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And that's why you have to have a government that can come in and say, listen, You know, and people don't... It's checks and balances.
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Well, more than the checks and balances, it's... I mean, it's checks and balances, but with teeth. Like, nobody remembers that the telecommunication industry was run by... one massive company at one point. And the government came in and said, you have to sell off your company. You have to break your company off into four or five different companies.
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And people went, that's un-American, you can't, no. No, you're taking, you're charging people outrageous, people's phone bills are two, 300 bucks every single month. It's outrageous. It doesn't cost you that much to call from California to Florida. It just doesn't cost them. It doesn't cost you $300. You can create this. And guess what?
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Right now, it doesn't cost me anything to talk to somebody in California. And back then, when they broke it apart, suddenly they broke that company apart. And within six months, these $350 phone bills for long distance were dropped down to $80, $70. What happened? Competition. Yeah, that's what happened.
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There's nothing wrong with it. Same thing with the railroads. They had to break the railroads apart. You have to break the oil companies apart. You cannot allow anybody to consolidate too much power or they will take advantage of it because 100%, the truth is, is that absolute power corrupts absolutely. There's just no doubt. It's not a new thing and it's not going to change.
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Oh, well, people are better people now. No, they're not. No, people are the same.
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And it's almost a problem because... No, the phone's a problem because 17, 18, 19, 20-year-old kids look at the phone and they think that everybody... Everybody has a Ferrari and everybody can go on vacation for two weeks and everybody has their own. They think, oh, I can't do it. I should have all these things. I can't.
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Things are horrible for me because I'm not making any money and things are so hard. And these are the things I want. But the truth is, but they don't want to work to get it. And you don't have to work to get it, right? Like you don't have to go out and bust your ass and work to buy a nice car to feel good about yourself.
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I can lay in bed and just look at TikTok and I get the same sensation as I do working for a year and a half and saving all my money to put money down on a new home or buy a vehicle. They get the same enjoyment playing video games. You don't have to work hard. You can get that just lying in bed. Now, granted, you don't end up Having a girlfriend, a wife, you don't end up having kids.
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You have no purpose because you can get that same feeling by slaying in your bed and you feel like it's unfair. It's unfair because all these people have money and I have nothing.
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Well, they come in and they've already got millions of, you know what I'm saying? Like some of these, uh, what is it? Uh, news nation, um,
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I think those robots get out of control. I think we take them out.
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even pierce morgan oh he's huge yeah he's got he started off he's already he's got a two three million uh viewers right now on youtube and that's not even like his main platform well he's a youtuber he's not he doesn't he's not in a studio he's just been in the industry a long time so he has his own little home studio he zooms people in to yell at each other and that's his show oh i thought it was just youtube i thought he was on the national like he doesn't have he doesn't have like a national platform no he's a he's a youtuber
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Yeah, I don't know about you, but all the... these kids now or they don't want to work like it really does seem like that i don't know if it seems like that to you but all the ones i know like they don't want to work They just don't.
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you? No, we're going to get a compound. We're going to go, even if I have to live in a double-wide, we're going to go get two or three acres and build a big block wall around it and buy some solar panels and live in a double-wide if that's what we've got to do. Grow our own food. Scavenge.
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Yeah. Ready player one. Okay. Because they were still living in squalor. I robot, everything was pristine and crisp and beautiful and,
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everybody seemed like they had they still actually i gotta watch that movie i read the book ready player one no or i robot robot yeah did you read the book i didn't i didn't listen let me tell you about the book it's and i'm probably got the page wrong page count wrong let's say it's 600 pages it's fucking outrageously wow do you know how much of that book deals with the robot revolution
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So the book is actually so, you know, the female lead in the book, which is she's a robot like psychiatrist, psychologist, whatever. So the book is actually an interview when she's like 150 years old. And it's an interview with her. Because she had been raised by a robot, one of the first nanny robots. That's why she in the book is very like, I don't like, you know what I'm saying? She's very.
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Yeah, she's very robotic.
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You realize in the real in the book, she was raised by one of these things.
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But not like it wasn't like that back then. They were very blocky, whatever. So she was raised by a wealthy family who had the first robot nannies and she was raised by a nanny. And because she felt very comfortable around them, she became a robot psychologist or whatever you want to call it, behavior psychologist, whatever, behaviorist, whatever she is.
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Well, she ends up being, let's say, 150 years old. And she is being interviewed by a reporter, which I'm pretty sure probably was a human. But now I think about it, maybe it was a robot. But it was a human. So let's say a human. And she's talking about the advancement. The book's horrible, by the way. But it's huge. It's like five, six hundred pages. It's a massive book.
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And during that book, there was one, two or three pages where she talks about the robot revolution or, you know, revolution or whatever you want to call it. I think uprising robot uprising that happened in the year 2150 or whatever year it was. And it's it's only talked about for a few pages. They took those pages and said, let's run with it.
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She talks about these different people, and some of the people you recognize, they were in the movie. She talks about the main guy who was the founder of this new version of robots. All of that, but really it boils down to just one or two pages where she has this discussion. That's what they turned into the movie. Like all the stuff that happens in that movie, none of it's in the book.
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He's been with the, you know, the BBC or whatever, but he's just, he's got the setup where it looks like the news.
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Except for this one, just a discussion about it. And as a result of that, they end up saying that robots cannot exist, I think, on the planet Earth. And she talks about the three laws. That's who came up with that book. The guy that wrote that book is the person that that's when the three laws were first invented in the book.
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So, right.
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And you cannot, whatever. It's like one of them was like something else anyway. And she, she, listen, she talks about it. It's very, very, I hate to use the word heady, but it's very, I say analytical where there's all tons of discussions where she talks about the different versions of robots. And at one point, The robots, for instance, there were humans.
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Um, so what do you think the drones are? We're back to the drones because we got off.
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This was like when they're on like Mars or somewhere. Oh, no, they weren't on Mars. It had something to do with radiation. I'm sorry. There were humans that were going into an area that had radiation in it. But it was... it was reasonable. Does that make sense? Like it was, it was, we're getting exposed to radiation, right?
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Correct. Correct. So it wasn't that big of a deal. What, what happens is these humans are going into a room. Let's say it's a, for the sake of argument, a nuclear power plant, and they're going into a certain area where they have to do things and they get, they get a certain, they get a, A dose of radiation that's higher than normal, but it's acceptable, right?
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Like I can go in here and when I come back out, it's fine. It's not going to kill me, but it's probably higher than I should be getting, right? Like maybe working in a radiology lab or something.
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What happens is because of the three laws, the robots kept stopping people from going in there. And they were saying... And they didn't understand. They simply refused to let them go in. And they eventually, after they reworked the computer program, they realized that they were determining that if a person went in there, they were being damaged.
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And if they repeatedly went in there, they would be damaged over the long term. And it would possibly give them a higher probability of having cancer in the future. And they said... That was too much. Like, you can't stop me from getting in my car to drive to work because there's a chance you could be harmed. Any action is a risk. Right. And so they had to rewrite the program.
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And listen, this is something that takes place over. This is like 10 pages, 15 pages. Well, they have all these different discussions as they figure out what the problem was and eventually come to the conclusion of this is why we had to redo this. And we had to change the laws. And it was just like, dear, the whole book is like that. It's horrible. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
Your glass is half full. Your glasses. Yeah. Half full kind of guy. Yeah, exactly. That's right. Your glass. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
I'm nonviolent. I'm harmless. Anyway, all right. How long have we been doing this? Oh, for God's sake. It's ridiculous. There's got to be something better on Netflix.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
Well, the problem is that the people who watch this channel the whole time have been waiting for you to talk about your crime. And that never happened. And that's all they're going to talk about in the comments. What did this guy do? Hey, you guys, I appreciate you watching. Do me a favor, hit the subscribe button. And by the way, Mark has a channel.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
He's got all of the social media platform things. So we're going to put all those links in the description box. So you can click on there, go there, check out his channel. He talks about AI and robots and... all kinds of stuff like that. So check those out. Also, I appreciate it. Please consider joining my Patreon and subscribe to the Matt Cox clips channel.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
We're going to put the link in the description box too for the clips channel and for the shorts channel, but the clips channel needs help. It's dying. All right. Thank you very much. I appreciate you and consider joining our Patreon. Thank you very much. See ya.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
Exactly. So why are they doing them at night? Why not do them during the day?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
Did you ever see the movie They Live? Roddy Piper is just a normal guy. He's kind of a guy going from homeless shelter to homeless. Kind of just a, you know, reminds me of the Stallone character in Rambo. Kind of just hitchhiking through the world. And he's just kind of a regular guy picking up an odd job here, an odd job here. Got a backpack. Let's just walk around. And he ends up
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
something happens where i want to say it's a robbery or something where he he ends up um disrupting some kind of robbery and these guys they drop a bunch of boxes so there's a bunch of boxes and one of the boxes spills over or something or maybe it was a robbery that he was involved i don't know what happened but there's a bunch of boxes and a bunch of these these glasses fall out they look like the old ray-bans right he grabs some of them and
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
He's walking down the street and he puts one on. And when he puts it on, everything's black and white. He takes it and he's like, what the hell? It's like, what? And they make him feel kind of like, kind of give you a little bit of a headache after you wear them too long. So he puts them on. And as he puts them on and he's walking, he's kind of like, this is weird. He's looking around.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
And I want to say, Julian believed it was going to happen during the Army-Navy game. This was months ago, right? Or a month or so ago. And he believed that that's what was going to happen. Or that it was possible that's what was going to happen. And that the military knew roughly the area they believed that this dirty bomb was in. And I say dirty bomb.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
But when he looks up at the street signs... It'll say like, you know, Bob's supermarket. But when he puts the glasses on, it says obey.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
And he puts them on obey and he notices another sign. The sign says like, you know, whatever, you know, buy state farm insurance. But he looks at it and it says obey your masters or it says consume. There are signs everywhere that say these things. And he's like, what the hell? And then as he's walking, he keeps putting them back on because they kind of hurt a little bit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
You have to get used to them, I guess. So you put them on and like people are walking towards him, but they're not people. They're like aliens. but not like they're different. They're just like a normal person, but you can tell like they almost have like no skin or something like they're like a gray, but a really ugly gray. Yeah. He's like, what the hell?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
And then, you know, the one will look up and be like, what's your problem? He's like, what's my problem? You know, he's like, and then he, the other thing he notices, there are drones. Drones are like, like going down the streets, but he takes them off and it's not there, but they're everywhere. I can't believe you've never watched it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
It's great because it's a whole thing where he realizes that basically like aliens, it's almost like we're like a resort destination to them, you know, where they can come and do whatever they want and behave how they want. And we're just here to kind of as entertainment for them.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
And, but it's, it's funny because it's, what's really happening, you know, you're seeing one thing, but you put the glasses on, you realize something completely different is going on.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
And it, he, and so that's kind of how I feel like, and I know, and I didn't always feel this way. It's not till in the last probably four or five years. And it's very gradual. It's probably the last couple of years where like Julian and Danny are 100% all Like they believe that the pyramids are, you know, were once batteries for generating energy for spaceships.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
Like they got all the craziness they believe. You might believe that too. I don't know. But the point is, is like all these insane theories that I'm like, you're insane. Like I'm better off believing. I mean, I'm okay believing the, you know, Like, you know, did you ever see the Mike – I hate I say – I keep going back to movies.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
Did you ever see the Mike Myers movie where his dad believes, like, the Pantera is – they meet triannually to determine, you know, the fate of the world and what's happening. And so, you know, it was like a big joke, right? All these people that believe, like, the Masons are running everything. Sure. You know, it's like this kind of this joke that's been going on for 20, 30 years.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
But as things are happening and as – these apps and these social media platforms are putting things together. Some of it's still insanity, but some of it seems like it's making sense.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
I'm throwing dirty bomb in there because I'm assuming that the Iranians can't put together a regular bomb. But the truth is maybe it was a regular one. I don't know. Suitcase bomb. Maybe the suitcase bomb is a small bomb, but that's still not a dirty bomb. That's a legitimate bomb. You know what I'm saying? A suitcase bomb could be two, three times the yield. What is it?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
A.I. EXPERT shares BIBLICAL PROOF the END IS NEAR!
It's so funny how they were just mocking the shit. I like that the media was mocking the hell out of Trump when he would say the Chinese – Oh, the Chinese virus. Yeah, well, it came from China. It came from the lab. They're like, no, that's not what's happening. And of course, now... The gaslighting? Three or four years later, it's true.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
And he's like, fuck.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Yeah, he does telemarketing stuff.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
By the time it affects her, she's gone anyway.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
100%.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right. Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
And we're like, oh, okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
He's like, yeah, and they put it on the internet. And then they was selling them pictures.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
And he was like, well, I didn't do nothing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Yeah, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Mm-hmm.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
What does that mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
What are some of the issues that these guys are causing?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Um, um,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
I know you mentioned it just real briefly, but where are some places that they would hide contraband, like good places or people, the thing that average, the place that average Joe wouldn't think about, like where are they hiding these things?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
I thought you were going to say, you know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
How old were you?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
100%.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right. I have a question. So as a CEO, like you're trying to get rid of some guys, like you don't have the ability to just file some paperwork and send them somewhere else. No. No.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
What, you quit?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
But the whole time, I'm like... A part of me is like...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Nothing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Yeah, the deuces.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
And I was like, who are they talking about resting?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Had plans. Next Tuesday, I'll be there on the podcast. Everything's great. Everything's wonderful. That's terrible.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
I'm like, that's hilarious. Like, that's great. I made a TikTok of it. We put it on the fucking thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
um it was funny so why why would you do this job like like if the month you're not making that much extra you're not making extra money on the side right no yeah it's like why why would you put yourself or why would anybody put themselves through all of this you know i mean just seems like like you get so caught up in it like you're i'm doing this this guy this guy and
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
And I'm thinking to myself, where's the benefit? Why would I do this? You know what I mean? Like what, what you personally, what was your mindset? What did you ever think to yourself? Like, why am I putting myself in these situations? Or were you caught up in it? You enjoyed it. Do you have a goal?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Thank God you guys got here.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
You feel invincible.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Nice. Yeah, that's my really only question. You addressed the other one because I was going to say, and I figured you would bring it full circle because I read the comments on the Chad Marks interview. I was going to say, what would you say to your haters, to the people that are saying, this guy's a piece of shit, all this kind of stuff. But you bring it full circle with your new perspective.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
There was a lot of haters. There really wasn't many, but sometimes I like to try to predict what people might think.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Yeah, I'm trying to think what – it was Viking mindset. Oh, Viking mindset. I said white Viking.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
The guys are like, oh, this dude, he's like that, bro. He's the guy. He's going to take care of business.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Do you think being a CEO and going to prison, do you think that worked against you? Do you think it helped you because you knew how it worked? Or did you get pushback from the other inmates? How do you think that changed your prison experience? Oh, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Are they trying to give you a hard time?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
They're going to find out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Fuck you for saying that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
FBI's Most Wanted Cop Gets Arrested : Exploiting & Airlifting Inmates
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
chiefs of staff or whatever, somebody that was on his staff wrote a book. And in the book, he mentions about John F. Kennedy having an affair with multiple women, but one of them was an intern. And he never mentions her name, but the press very quickly puts it together with Freedom of Information Act. They figured out, boom, boom, boom, this is the chick. They then go to her house.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Right. The people that have invested with him, buying antiques for him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Like one day she opens the door, boom, filled with press. And she ends up writing a memoir, very short memoir, but it was great. It was great. I mean, it's probably 100 pages and probably one of the best memoirs I've read. And she talks about the affair that she had with Kennedy. She also talks about how Kennedy literally –
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
What do you mean they're stamp... When you say stamp business, I thought you meant like antique stamps or specialty.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
was willing to pass her around so she's like 19 years she's like 19 years old this guy's 45 years old or 43 whatever he was and he was having sex with her and at one point they were there was a some stressful situation was going on and one of the guys like bobby was upset and he goes and he says to her look how anxious he is look how upset he is he's
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
And he said, you know... So you said... So at that point, you were like... This was just before you went on vacation, and you were like...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Sounds like bullshit to me, but I hear you. I hear you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
I'm not going to ruin your credibility.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Was it always that you were always kind of, he was all, you're always being set up for.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
So you opened the letter, so you got back, you got the letter, you opened up the letter.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
What did the letter say to you? What did your letter say?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Why don't you go over and, you know, like basically blow him and help him relax. And she says, and to be honest, she said, I was going to do that. And she had done it before, like when he'd asked her to. And she gets up and Bobby's like, what are you doing? Like he gets all pissed off and he's like, what are you doing? Are you insane? You know, we're in the middle of this and you're pulling this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
what kills me is dude where's that forty five thousand dollars you're right did you gamble that all yeah i was sitting next to you the whole time it sure didn't look like it so well i was gonna say the the other thing is you know you're like oh he didn't want to up and leave but you're also thinking that he has the same emotional attachments to other people that you do yes you know like there's yeah you don't you don't know that he may have been like get
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Get to start over.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
You know what's so funny is that when I was in Tampa and on the run and I was flipping properties and people saw, you know, I'm always paying for everything. You know how many people would come to me and say, hey, listen. I could, you know, if I gave you 20 grand, like, like, could I, you know, what, what could I get back?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
And I would be like, nah, you know, and this is the thing, like, you know, it was like, like one, I'm not going to rip you off, but two, I know that everything I'm doing is illegal. Right. And I don't want to have wires from you coming to me. And then the other thing was, it was like, okay, it's not worth it. Do you lend me for you to lend me money? For one thing, I'm borrowing money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
very inexpensively from the bank right i have plenty of money like you're 20 grand if i've got 300 000 in the bank and i've got you're 20 grand like what am i getting really nothing grand scheme of things i'm borrowing money at six percent five percent yeah i don't like what are you gonna get you're just one more phone call headache that i gotta worry about right like like you're 20 grand i can just pull 20 grand out of my own bank account and it costs me nothing you're saying if i give you 20 would you give me back 2200 or 20 000 and give it plus 2000 like no
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Like, what are you doing? He gets upset and walks off. But it's not unheard of. Like now, you know, you look back on those black and white photos and you think everybody is so put together and perfect and nice. But the truth is they were the only difference in the 60s. The British had the British had parliamentary sex scandals.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But people are constantly offering me money. Yeah. And it's like, it's crazy. It's like, this is, this is not, and I think that's the same thing. Your buddy realized I'm paying for everything. I look like I'm doing well. Everybody likes me. Everybody trusts me. They're going to offer me money. If I come to them and ask them for money, they're going to give me the money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You know, I, I had a buddy in prison who said, remember he said, people are more concerned about losing out on, on a good deal than they are at protecting their money. What they don't want, they don't want to have $100,000 and find out that they could have lent it to you and made $150,000 than to keep their $100,000, even though it's a risk. They're more willing to risk it than protect it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And that was the big thing, was he played up on that. Yep. I've got this guy invested, this guy invested, this guy invested. I've got one more spot, but I'm talking to somebody else. I'll do it. It's like they're not asking me any questions. They don't have any proof. They don't have anything. They just don't want somebody else to get their investment.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah. You'll talk yourself out of a deal.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, the only one of the huge differences then and now is the press gave them a huge pass. Yes. Like literally this girl would show up, walk around and they would see her. And they would be like, they liked Kennedy. They're not going to say anything. They understand this is this girl. She's here. What she's here for. What's going on. Why she's always around in the background.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So in the note that he leaves to Travis and Amelina. In the end, like what do you think he got the office in general for?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Whoa.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So you guys could get your money back, but do it anyway. Let's try. I'm willing to risk it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They know what's happening. They've heard the rumors. They don't say anything. They like him. It's Camelot. You give them a pass. And a lot of stuff was off limits. Nothing's off limits now.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, yeah, but we'll make it look like a hit and run.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Go out in the road. Yeah, sure. We could, I'll run you over with the car. Right. Let's get that money. Yeah. Let's do the right thing. Do the right thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It'll be a hit and run. It's accidental death.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yes. So just, just people helping people. It's just the right thing to do.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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We got to put the website in the description.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And that really bothers me. It bothers me because I've heard that many times because it's fraud.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It's not civil.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I don't understand. You're saying what stamp deal? So there, there is no stamp deal.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right. And it's important that I keep him in the dark about what's happening with all these other people. He's thinking he's going to gamble his way out of it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, it's hard to move antiques.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, I mean, maybe. Maybe they just did a criminal background check. Nothing came up. They're good.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And it's not hard to fake a resume, you know? Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And let's face it, they're not paying you anything. And it's a part time, like they let you work your way up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They pay you this much. Exactly. He's got five of them going.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He's got to go home and tell his mom.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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If I went into the bank and I lied to the bank and they gave me money and I'd never paid them back, that's fraud. Right. So because you're not a licensed organization, because he borrowed money from somebody, they're saying, oh, that's civil.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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What is the difference between me borrowing $300,000 from Bank of America and then writing them a note saying, hey, my bad. I just took your money. Go fuck yourself. It's the same thing. I still have a promissory note.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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$300,000, Dave.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They didn't get any money back. You told me you got his money. I was thinking about Dave.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Absolutely. Like they, they're a certain percentage of interest rates and everything else goes just towards.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And I had, so I actually have like four victims. Um, But the total I owe all victims is about $30,000. And I didn't take the money. Like, you've got a doctor that paid like $11,000 or $12,000 to an attorney. They all paid for attorneys, by the way. Same thing, CPA, paid for an attorney. Same thing as a lawyer that lent money. He was a hard money lender. He also...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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um paid a lawyer uh he paid like 25 3500 like you know and then there was like one other person it was the same thing they paid like 25 35 the most was the doctor that lost money and yeah he was so furious that he couldn't be he was like oh that he he couldn't even come to because they wanted him to get up and say because he'd lost the most money he'd i'd have to hire an attorney i this
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, no.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I know, but you know, some guys are so... Oh, of course.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right, at least something coming in. So they get some money back. Yeah, $500 a month, they're getting something, but nothing. And the thing is, if they grabbed him, how hard of a case is that to even make? Once you grab him, you say, here it is, we're charging you with this, you get on probation, you're going to start making payments. That's it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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What's funny to me is that he's getting these jobs at these financial institutions or these institutions where you have access to people's... That's my point.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Listen, when you're talking to somebody on the phone and you're getting their information, especially back then, back then they're giving it all to you right over the phone.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right. But they give it to you. They give it to you. Well, I was going to say, the thing is, is that like I would get on the phone with somebody and ask them all kinds of like, so once they start telling you stuff, Right. You get them in the pub. They're all in. Like, you know, once they get date of birth, social security number, where were you born? What state and county were you born?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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What's your mother's maiden name? You're asking them questions like, there's no reason for me to ask you some of these questions. I was wondering how you did that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Absolutely.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Just for security reasons, just for security password. What's your mom's maiden name? Oh, okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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oh it's such and such okay thank you it's like oh are you serious like i would like you could have made something up give me your dog's name you know anything but they give that and then listen i would keep i i never had anybody who would stop halfway through like as soon as they gave me their social security number you kicked in the door now you're in the house right they're giving you everything so the ironic thing is about
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I didn't know him well enough to lend him any money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Deadliest catch.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Maybe that's what he's doing. Maybe Dave's stockpiling money to pay everybody back. I don't think you're giving him credit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I bet you if he hit for fucking 10 million, he ain't paying those people shit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They're never seen a dime.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I know a guy named Red Bull. Loved hanging out with him. I wouldn't lend him a dime. I wouldn't, I never bought him anything that I didn't expect to absolutely not get it back.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right. That's exactly. Yeah. I, I, I, that's an insane. I knew. So I'm going to, I, I, I think, did I, have I ever told you about Jim Keegan? I'm going to tell you a story right now because this reminded me of Jim Keegan. Jim Keegan's a guy that I met in federal prison. Jim Keegan was in federal prison for like he had embezzled some client money, right? So it was like wire fraud.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No big deal, small. He got a minor sentence, maybe three years, maybe four years. And so he'd embezzled some money and, and admittedly he, he said he did do it. He was, you know, drinking and gambling, whatever the reason was. He's like, and he had already paid the money back, but he, the prosecutors, they hated him because he was a lawyer.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He was a lawyer and he fought a criminal state criminal cases. And he'd won at trial so many times that they, that when they got him, they went to the U S attorney. And when they actually found this out about the, the misappropriative funds, uh,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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in his law office they just hammered and they they just wouldn't take a deal i'm trying to give him 15 years because he beat the state so many times he used to represent uh drug dealers and and gang members and he'd gotten them off on murder charges and so they just they wanted him gone so anything even commingling funds anything they can get they're gonna get him anything and so he ends up in federal prison and he was like yeah i'm gonna get out and i'm gonna i'm gonna go to work for my brother his brother was a lawyer he's like i'm gonna go to work for my brother um
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And I was like, oh, are you doing any legal work here? He's like, no, I don't do any legal work here. I don't want to do any legal work at all for anybody. And he'd come from another prison, by the way. So another low to low transfer because he said, I want to be in Florida and this and that. And people were constantly like, you were a lawyer on the street?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He was like, yeah, but I did criminal law, state. I haven't done – I don't do federal. And they would come to him and, can you look at my case? Can you look at my case? He'd go, well, I'll look at it. I'll look at it, but I'm not – I can't do anything.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Inmates have their paperwork on them for the most part. No, no. For the most part, they don't. For the most part, they get their sentence. They just don't do anything. All right. But some guys think they can get over. They can get something off, get some time knocked off. They gave me an enhancement for a gun I didn't have. They gave me 10 years. So it's worth fighting.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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If you can get the enhancement off, you got 15 years, 10 knocks off. You've already done two. You got five years. You know, you got a five year sentence plus gain time. Like you could be going to halfway house if you win that. Right. Enhancement. Right. And, and so Keegan was like, okay, cool, cool, cool. Um, yeah, I'll take a look at your stuff.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And he'd look at it and he'd go, look, I mean, I looked at it. Um, I talked to my brother about it. He came to see me and he did have a brother who owned a law firm in Orlando. And he said, I talked to my brother about it. Like you probably have a good case. My brother doesn't do, we both do state. Uh, he does more civil than I, I did. So yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And so people would, and he would tell people like, look, you know, I do, you can have your family look me up and they would look him up. And sure enough, this dude was in the paper all the fucking time. Jim Keegan just won this murder trial, this murder trial. Like you could literally there were probably eight different articles about him winning murder. I'm going for murder, winning the cases.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Now, by the way, winning a murder case. is one of the easiest cases. Murder is one of the hardest things to prove. Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right. Like it's not, and let's face it. A lot of times it's super circumstantial. Like you're dead and you know, you're dead. And then you really, it's up the prosecutor to prove that I was there, that I, that like, you know, there's like, there's no witness.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Right. Well, that's something totally different. What we're talking about is that this guy got him off on murder. Like he was getting off people on murder. So they didn't like him. They sent him to prison. So here's what I'm saying is that people, because he didn't want to do legal work, people are constantly coming to him, begging him to do legal work because they're looking at, he's a lawyer.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And because they're looking at the newspaper, they see that he's been super successful. So his story makes sense. People start giving him money. Like, bro, he's like, look, honestly, I can't. I mean, he's like, look, I'll do your case for you. I'm going to work, but I'm leaving here in like, eight months to a year.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I'll be in the halfway house and I'm going to be working at my brother's law office. You can have your family look up my brother too. They would look them up. Sure enough, there's a law office. His brother's name is like, whatever, Bill Keegan or Tom Keegan. And they're like, oh, wow. Like it's a pretty odd name. Right. And so, and the people would see his brother come.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He would also sometimes call his brother and say, can you pull this guy's docket sheet? So think about it. I can order my docket sheet, but it's going to take me two weeks to get it, maybe three weeks. But he would say, well, what, give me your docket number or your, your criminal number. Okay. And then he'd come back two hours later and he'd have a printout where his brother pulled it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like, you're like, wow, he really works at a fucking law firm. So this is his brother. This guy's connected. He could get research done. Yeah. So he would say, look, I'll take your case. But honestly, man, it's like $3,500. I can't charge you. Well, you're in prison. You know, like I can work on it. And if I don't finish it by the time I leave, I'll be at my brother's law office.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So I'll finish it while I'm there. So guys are going to their parents, going to their family, coming up with the $3,500. They're putting it on his books. Or he'd say, send it to my brother. They're sending it to his brother, his brother's cat. Personal, not to the law firm. But they're sending him $1,500. Like, hey, put $1,000 in my books. Send my brother $1,500. That's $2,500. Or whatever.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So even though he's like, no, no, no. Mm-hmm. They're begging to give him money. Begging. Their families are coming up with the money. This guy stockpiles, I don't know what it was, $20,000, $30,000 within the last few months.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I'm gonna say Dave said, I'm no expert, but Dave's read well over 100 books on the assassination and he's done a ton of research. And in my opinion, since there is no expert license, I feel like he's definitely an expert. And so we're going to be talking about that. We're also going to talk a little bit about the new book that's come out by the former Secret Service agent.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Worrying. He's got my legal work. He was filing motions. My family gave him $3,500. My family gave him $2,500. My family, I bought this guy $2,000 with a commissary. I put money on this guy's books and this guy, he's got money being sent everywhere. But he's explained that, look, it's going to, I got to get out. I got to do this. People start calling his brother's law firm.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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His brother is like, my brother's not a lawyer. My brother's a fucking con man. What are you talking about? My brother went to jail because he was doing the books for somebody and he was embezzling money from their business. And that's why he went to jail. And he's been to jail before. And they're like, no, well, my family looked him up. He was in the Chicago Tribune. Like, no, no.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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My brother's name is Jim Keegan.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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my father's name is jim keegan my father was a big-time attorney yep and he's like do the math bro yeah my brother 1984 story do you think it's me my brother's 50 he would have been 23 years old when he tried that case he would have been 28 years old like are you like look at the con just came to him to keep a cup of acid like i can milk these people look at the photos yeah he's like look at the
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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photos that's my dad of course the person at the person at home looking up the doesn't realize that you're not they don't see what jim keegan looks like like this guy would be 70 something jim keegan's 50 like you know so it's like it's like holy shit listen it was and i hate to say this but it was hilarious that is hilarious and and so what happened and this is what's even more funny this is the only reason it reminds me of what you said right
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I had a literary agent at the time, and I remember telling the literary agent, like, holy shit, you're not going to fucking, like, I was telling him about it, the whole thing, right? And so he knew about it. So what happens is it turns out that a lot of these people started, their family started writing letters to the bar saying, I gave this lawyer money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
For his brother, who was in prison, and I gave him money. So his brother starts just paying people back.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Because they're saying, the bar is like saying, first, what they say is, we don't get involved in legal fee disputes. Right. But... They also are writing letters to him saying, you have to answer this. So he's scared. He starts cutting checks for $3,500, $2,500, $1,500, $3,500. I even knew a guy that wrote a letter to him saying, I gave your brother $1,500. And he cut him a check.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He didn't give a shit. He pays out like $20,000. Wow. And keep in mind, too, some of these people have had some motions filed. So they're in the middle of a fucking legal battle with the government now that they're ill-equipped to even handle.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Basically, most most most inmates. So you get arrested. You get sentenced. You have you basically have one year to file what's called a 2255 to say the government fucked up somehow or your lawyer didn't represent you or something. After one year, you're basically doomed.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Now, if if if things if there's new precedents in your case and you can get back in court somehow, you can file a motion. Or you can try and get around the one-year time bar. It's called equitable tolling by making an argument. And listen, if you don't know any better, here's the worst thing about the law, is that you could file a nice guy motion. Do you know what a nice guy motion is?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Nice guy is Dave's a nice guy. You should let him out of jail and you could write it in green crown and send it into the federal court and they would answer it like it was a legitimate thing. They'd say, you know, we are, we are currently replying to the nice guy motion filed by, by Dave stating that he is a nice guy and should be let out of jail under a
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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you know, under Johnson versus the United States. It is clear that he is time bar. And they would, they wouldn't be like, is this a joke? They would act like, so I could not know anything. And there are guys in right now in federal prison who act like they're jailhouse lawyers and they'll file motion. They'll take, give me $500. They'll file motions with you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And if you don't know anything about the law, you think they do.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And the court responds like it's a legitimate argument. So you have no clue. But put that aside. So here's the second part of that. Is that one day my... My literary agent comes to see me. I want to say he was in person. He might have just called me on the phone. I might have just talked to him on the phone. But he said, listen, Matt. He said, do you know a guy named Jim Keegan? And I said, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Why? I said, remember I told you about him? And he goes, okay. He said, I thought it might be him. He goes, listen to this. He said, I went into a bar in Orlando. I was visiting a buddy. who owns a bar in Orlando. He said, I happen to be in Orlando for some other reason, because this guy was actually from Clearwater or something.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
So my literary agent went to Orlando for some reason, goes to visit a buddy who owns a bar, goes into the bar, and while he's in the bar, he's sitting there talking to... He's talking to the bartender and something came up where he ended up saying something and Jim Keegan was there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And Keegan said to him, and I forget exactly how it, but he ended up saying Reback because the guy's last name was Reback. He's like Reback. He goes, it's funny. He said, I got a buddy who has a lawyer named Reback. And he goes, that's an odd name. Like people, that's a very, you know, and he said, really? He said, who's your buddy? He goes, oh, he's a, he's a writer. He's a, he's named Matt Cox.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And he goes, yeah. He said, I'm Ross Reback. He's Matt Cox's client of mine. He goes, I'm not a lawyer though. He said, I'm a literary agent or I'm his agent. He said, yeah, he's in prison. He said, how do you know him? And he looked at him and you got to think that's not the, you know, he looked at him and he went, oh, um, I had, I actually did some legal work for him. And he said, oh, you did?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And he goes, yeah, yeah, I did. He said, oh, what's your name? He said, oh, my name's, he said, oh, it's Jim. He said, you know what? I'll get you a business card. Hold on a second. Goes to his girlfriend who, because he was sitting with some woman. And so Ross turns to his buddy who's owns the bar and
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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and says um oh you know him because yeah he comes in here all the time with us he comes in here probably two three times a week but they they live around his girlfriend she's got a bunch of money she was a very nice neighborhood right yeah she lives around here they come in all the time he's oh okay he said well he walked outside he said about a minute later the girl gets up and walks outside
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And he said, five minutes go by, 10 minutes go by, 15. He walked outside. He's like the guy that they had pulled up in like a Mercedes. It's gone. And he turns around and he goes, what's that guy's name? He goes, he said Jim. What's his name? And he goes, well, he paid with his credit card. Hold on. He pulls out his slip and he goes, Jim Keegan. And he's like, okay, cool. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And so he, so then when I talked to Ross, Ross goes, do you know a guy named Jim Keegan? And I was like, yeah, this is the guy. He goes, I Fuck, I knew it was the guy. I knew it. He said, this is what happened. And he tells me the whole thing. And I was like, holy shit. And I said, yeah, bro, you're never going to see him again. He said, I know I'm not. That had been weeks and weeks.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He said, my buddy said he came in three times a week at least.
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He'd never come back in.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So, but, but what I was gonna say is Keegan, by the way, if you look it up, got, he was on probation, got rearrested because he then opened up a, he opened up a, um, opened up a, uh, whatever, an office, a law office, uh, saying that he was filing claims for, he was an immigration lawyer taking money for immigration. He was charging $1,500 to $3,500.
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To file immigration papers. That's big money, yeah. And he had, he borrowed something like half a million dollars in about, or he got like half a million dollars in like less than a year and was actually, here's the really funny part, was giving, so after a certain period of time, He was actually, I want to say it was more than that. It actually says it in the article.
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I ought to pull up that article. He was actually giving out green cards, like the cards. He actually started making fake cards. And so guys are coming in. I gave you, I got it. Here's your card. Your card came in here. Now you're off doing your thing. So some of these guys get caught and start a whole investigation. And that's how we got grabbed that time. Goes back to jail again.
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Did got 10 years, got out on COVID or something. He kept the same. You would think he'd close his office. No, no. This is another one. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying. You think you do it for six months or three months and then bolt, especially when people start coming in.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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These guys aren't that smart. They think they're smarter and everybody's an idiot. Just like your buddy. You've got this guy, you're borrowing from all these people in the same office, telling the same lie, building up money, and then you... I'm sorry, go ahead.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So let's let's let's mention first that Kennedy is now campaigning. Yes. To for to run for president again. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, that's a completely different case than you're talking about.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, here's what I don't understand is like you said the whole time, like he never dated anybody. He never like what's like mentally not a bad looking guy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Cut your hair. And then he would leave stubble and whatnot. You got to put in the keywords, you have to put his name.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like to have this come up if somebody.
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How funny is that?
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You know, as an incumbent. But so he's now on the campaign trail. So they know where he's going. Yeah, you know where he's going. It's not like he was driving home from wherever they didn't. They know the route. They know what he's doing. He's campaigning and he's in Texas. Yeah, I'm sorry.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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To me, that story would get you laid more than anything. Of course. So why not play up? That's what I'm saying. If you're going to create this bullshit, why not take the benefit?
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Poor Rhea.
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Who knows how much damage he's really done. Those are the things that are extremely obvious that you've come across.
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Right. I mean, that's, it's got me, got my mind going, you know what I'm saying? It's got the gears going, but yeah, it's just, it just seems very unfair. Listen, if I did that, if I clip somebody for 200,000, 300,000, they would say it's fraud.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You're going to prison.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Because just because they're like, yeah, it's you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I wouldn't have old Dave's, uh, luck.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The real sad thing is even if they went and arrested the guy, they're never going to get anything.
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Right, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, first of all, mentally, there are some people that no matter what you do, They're going to run some kind of con. I mean, obviously, he's addicted to gambling. Yes. But you said he wasn't bad at it. No. But then you said he lost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It's like being an alcoholic. Yeah, for sure. They've been great for five years. And then they have one, six months, they've lost everything.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I have no idea. I dated a chick that I remember she had told me that she dated a guy. Because I remember we had gone on a few dates. This was 20 years ago. I remember we had gone on like one date or two dates. And I remember she was like, we had slept together. And she said, do you have any fetishes? And I was like, what do you mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And she goes, she said, I just want to make sure that you're just like a normal, like there's nothing weird. And I was like, why? I was like, have you dated some guys that have some weird stuff? She goes, yeah. She goes, I dated a guy that literally, she said he had like a
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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feet fetish and I was like are you she's like like he literally wanted me to lube up my feet and he would it's she's it was weird I was like oh wow I said how long did you date him she's like about six months six months oh my god you and I were on match.com about the same time and I remember I used to go to Tampa Orlando meet some girls that Becky how I didn't run to her because let me tell you something
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She didn't last. She lasted about a year.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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doing? Oh, listen, I thought it all the time. She had me too. She had me. She'd cry.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, I start crying and I feel bad and
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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you know, a bomb bomb under the sewer main. You could be driving over below the like they not they they cap them or they they clear them and then they they weld them shut. Like, I mean, they they go to great length. They'll remove they'll remove U.S. or any type of obstacle or anything. You could put anything like U.S. mailboxes, all kinds of shit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And it's called Final Witness. We just looked that up. So we're going to talk about Dave's take on the book and the Secret Service agent's theories. And check out the video. It's all right. It's all right. It's all right. Good teaser. So, yeah, it's so funny, too, because, I mean, obviously, you've been on before. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He didn't want to be sitting right next to Kennedy?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He didn't know he was shot. He got shot. But I remember it was a ricocheted. Yeah. I remember Reagan was Reagan was they were prepping him for.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So, you know what the other funny thing is? Like, what was it? A few months after that, he's giving a speech. Reagan's giving a speech. And a balloon pops in the distance. Pow! And he goes, miss me. And then he keeps right on going.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Hilarious, bro.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But I was talking to my wife, and I was explaining last night, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, Kennedy assassination. We were having this discussion, and she goes, yeah, but he's been on before. How are you going to introduce him? And I thought, and I said, he's an expert. And she goes, does he think he's an expert? And I said, of course, he's got to think he's an expert.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It's been fired. It's been fired. There's rifling. Yeah, you can see the striations on it. Yeah. But it's almost as if someone shot it into... Water. Into water. I was going to say water or sand. Not even sand. Yeah. Exactly. It was fired. That's how they do it in the ballistics.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like, they fired it because, I mean, it's... Ballistics jelly, maybe. Yeah. It's perfect. It's in perfect shape. It certainly doesn't look like a bullet that... Because we had pulled it up earlier to show Colby. It doesn't look like a bullet that has gone through one person, struck bone multiple times. Because, listen, at that rate... that a bullet's traveling.
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Anything it hits, it's going to dent the bullet. It's going to change it. It's going to alter it. And it certainly doesn't look like a bullet that's bounced off and even changed direction, changed 180 degrees. In midair. In midair. Well, even if it hits his bone, like I can see he hit the bone and it ricochets.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, then if it ricocheted and it hit that bone, then it would have dramatically altered that bullet. If it didn't blow it into pieces, at the very least would have dented the living crap out of it. And everybody's seen bullets that have gone through people. Absolutely. You know, they're smooshed. They look like mushrooms.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I said, he's read over 100 some odd books on the subject. He's been researching it for fucking 20 something, 30 years.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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colby's gonna pull it up you can clearly see the explosion in his head yeah his skull cap flies back and jackie has to go back and get a piece of it she's scoop she's like scooping up her i mean you know she's pan i mean she's in uh what do you call it when you're um i mean she's panicked but she's in shock she's in shock thank you she's not thinking clearly she literally scoops up his brains and and the back of the skull
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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What are you talking about? Like, what makes you an expert? Doing a thorough amount of research on a subject makes you an expert. Hell, you said you even have a... A mock up of the is it the gun or in the of the car or.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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and thinking it up like a moving limousine like we could put like oh he let's put this back together like you know it's horrible i mean you know what i'm saying oh it's just like fucking what was she thinking you know what what's she going through she was i think it's pretty amazing that she thought that i mean she was just trying to care for her husband but again this is according to dave i think most people would have just been like and i would have just been like
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Whoa. I don't think I would have even... I would have been like, whoa! I mean, to me, this guy's head just blew apart in front of me. She didn't flinch. She fucking grabs it, starts grabbing him. She's like...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So what's what's interesting, Colby, is that so. If you look at his body, it's blown backward. You know what I'm saying? It blows out the back of his head. It's so obvious the bullet had to have entered the front. Because Jackie comes here and he goes... Right. But they're saying, no, it hit him from behind and he blew backwards. How is that even possible?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, this is where everything came from. This is the version that makes sense for the trajectory of every single bullet. Not here.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, yeah. So it's coming. So initially, that bend, remember how you talked about that, what did you say, hairpin turn? Hairpin turn. That hairpin turn is right here. So you're here. You could fire the whole time. And the target's only getting bigger. They wait until he slows down, makes a hairpin turn, and now he's still slow. It's perfect timing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Now, the same position that Oswald would have been in, now he's in. He takes the shot, though. Oswald doesn't.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oswald's version is that he puts together... That he's been set up. Yes. Then when he's leaving, they video him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right. It just doesn't make sense. I saw a documentary where they show they try and reenact the whole thing. They just can't like, well, actually, I think they do. Oh, they do. They hit a watermelon. But, you know, you get a good guy that can work a bolt.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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action but they also it took it took like three or four different snipers and eventually they end up sure like okay great so so two out of ten shots right you know or 20 shots where you can make with a with an Oswald wasn't even a good shot no and the the actual weapon he used the scope although the scope could have been altered later or broken during move or being moved during the movement of the weapon it actually didn't work right it was off it was misaligned yeah misaligned thank you and
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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it was very scary anybody in the cia operated on moscow rules like trust nobody if you're out on the street you know very scary time to be living in so but they're they're so there's a huge you know the obviously ideologies are different but there's a huge push um for you know um you know capitalism and democracy and everything and obviously you know uh communism and
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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uh oswald becomes disenfranchised with the united states supposedly supposedly and well he defects to the soviet union affects the soviet pretty odd yeah that's crazy right that's pretty obvious a russian woman but is allowed to leave right well and but here's the thing too when he gets there the communism isn't what he thinks it is no you see i'm saying he gets kim philby had the same issue all right he gets there and he's like
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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guess what there's a hierarchy here there's not supposed to be a hierarchy in communism there's a hierarchy there's the party uh they're they're not you know there's there's it's is massively corrupt more corrupt than the united states i'm not getting anywhere here and he becomes disenfranchised and he leaves but he's still a communist he still believes in communism supposedly yeah but if you renounce your u.s citizenship
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, here's the other thing is... LBJ or Johnson insists that he be sworn in immediately before the plane even takes off. He's like, I'm now the president. It's like, bro, this dude's body's not cold.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Now, immediately...
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he's gonna fail a paraffin test which is what they test people's hands for if you fire at a gun so he he you know oswald is basically placed in the in this building and after the whole thing goes down he he immediately takes off like he knows something's wrong now whether or not he actually what uh fire was planning on you know actually fired the gun um you know
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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was in on the assassination or it was just a complete set up. And he's sitting there eating his eating his lunch and realizes and hears the president's been killed and puts it together at that moment like, oh, shit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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either he was a part of it knew it or he at the very least he knows something's wrong so he immediately bolts he leaves the texas depository and immediately hauls ass and walks how many blocks to like he goes to um yeah supposedly that he went if if the the theater's here jd tippet the police officer shot here it's like almost a mile one way and he would have had to
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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jogged at a really fast speed almost a full broke out run but people you can do it a police officer around and go the other way so you're saying the police officer stops him so uh supposedly okay now supposedly a police officer stops him he kills him right shoots him yeah shoots him and kills him every eyewitness not a nice guy nobody said he's saying he's a nice guy
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So the official narrative is that he takes off.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, the fact that I think he probably did take off. I mean, so here's a theory is that he's in the building. Maybe he doesn't know or he knows that there is a plot. He doesn't know when it's going to happen. He's being told he's going to take part in the plot. He's willing to maybe take part in the plot. Finds out that... you know, finds out that Kennedy's been shot.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He then immediately puts it together in his mind. Oh, shit. I'm going to be a suspect. They're going to be coming here. I don't need to be here. Maybe he even already has an escape route. Sure. Like, who knows? You're going to do this. But it happens earlier than expected or he starts to realize something's wrong. But he still feels like maybe I'm just left out of the loop.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Maybe there was some of the plan changes. I just need to talk to my guy. He'll know what to do. Right. So I'm going to go ahead with the escape route. I'm going to go ahead and try and make my escape route. And he's been told that, listen, if... If you get pulled over, you cannot be caught. So he kills the police officer. He then goes... Maybe he's supposed to meet somebody wherever.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So you got a couple different places you can meet them. Maybe one is the movie theater. He goes there. He gets captured. Who knows? Because it is... The way he takes his route is counterintuitive from where he's initially headed, right? So he heads one way, that doesn't work out, heads to the second place where he's gonna be picked up. Then he gets grabbed.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He tries to make the phone call to make contact. He's not allowed to make contact. And at this point he's 100% sure, okay, I was never going to be able to be able to escape this. I was always going to be Patsy. And they're probably going to kill me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So Ruby, see, Colby knows none of this. I love that Colby doesn't know this because Colby, in a sense, is the audience. Okay, perfect. So Jack Ruby owned several, are they strip clubs? Yeah, nightclubs in the Dallas area. Okay. And he's also connected to the mob. So he's told, hey, and he kind of used to hang out at the police station too, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So he has his finger on the pulse of law enforcement in the area. And he gets word. That they're moving Oswald. Which in and of itself isn't weird.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Out of the police station to... Yeah, police station back to, I believe, the jail. So keep in mind, too, the first chance Oswald has of being in front of the press, he says, I'm a patsy. So you can't let Oswald get tried. You can't let Oswald talk to the press. You can't allow him to speak. The first chance he had, he said, I'm a patsy. He's put it together. He may be credible. He knows now.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, anybody who's even remotely associated with the event wrote a book. Right. It was such a cash grab to be even close to that. And that was when people read. Sure. You come up with a book, and you could— you know, make a ton of money on just book sales. Like almost nobody's making a ton of money in book sales anymore. But so let's start.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right.
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Yeah. But but you don't want that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, that's a mistake.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I was going to say, also, the thing is, like, president after president after president. all of them said, when I'm elected, I'm going to get rid of J. Edgar Hoover, like everyone that comes along the pike. And then of course they call him into his office and, well, I'm gonna fire him today.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He comes in, he puts down a file and says, and they say, look, J. Edgar, you've done a great job, but it's time to step down. He says, yeah, okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I got this. I got this. I got this. And I got some recordings we can play on the reel here, if you want, of phone calls between you and this. Here's some of you taking bribes. Here's your uncle. What are you going to do? Are you still going to ask me to resign?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Sure.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So, I mean, on top of that, he was just, in general, J. Edgar Hoover was a complete scumbag. Yeah. I mean, we're talking about there are so many people that he just set up, lied about, places where he would place himself in the middle of an investigation he had nothing about. You know, he was famous for...
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And, you know, to be fair, like, you know, communist communism is was growing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, I haven't. Oh. Is it good? Yeah. Did you see it?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah. Like, he went to a couple meetings. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He went to a couple meetings. Like, that's it. Ruined him. Yeah. Ruined him. Took away his security clearance.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And, you know, listen, Fidel Castro took over all of Cuba with like three or four hundred men. because the New York Times went in and he convinced the New York Times that he had thousands and thousands of rebels ready to go into the Capitol and seize control. And so the New York Times starts putting out these articles, but really what he did was they led the reporter through the mountains
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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just to the same camps over and over and the same guys you're seeing and real quickly leads them out. And they're like, how many do you have?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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A few thousand at that point. Because he's gathering troops. As they're going, people are joining. They think he's got all these troops. No, he doesn't. No, I've got about 300 or 400. And people start joining by the time he gets there. He's still only got... And these are military guys.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I agree. I think Frank Amadeo, if we gave him six months, could probably take the place over. Get Frank involved. So...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Did the Warren Commission have the Zapruder film? No. Have access to the Zapruder?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So let's first mention that Kennedy. Kennedy was in World War II. Yes. He was what? In charge of like a... He was in the Navy. He was in charge of a... I don't know. He hurt his back in a boating accident.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And he had actually helped save someone or something.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So he'd gotten an award. So he was kind of like a war hero. Right. Not kind of like... He was a war hero. Right. Maybe not. He may not have saved 15 people. Right. But... So... He then enters the political arena and eventually runs for president. And Eisenhower was... Did he beat Eisenhower?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And he didn't want to drag Jackie Kennedy through a trial. And, you know...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And also the Warren report, like all the reports and everything, all the documentation that they had to come up with this conclusion was sealed. Was sealed.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They say, well, anybody that would be anybody that would have been possibly implicated by review, by an impartial review of those documents, if it did lead to this person, well, that person 60 years later is dead because he's probably 40 or 50 at the time. And in 60 years, he's going to be 110 and we'd be prosecuted. Like, that's not going to happen.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Listen, the JFK, if anybody wants to watch a great film on it, it really is JFK. Oliver Stone's JFK. Fantastic movie.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Harry Connick Jr., I believe, is actually the son of the DA that does the prosecution. Interesting. I'd heard that somewhere. I could be wrong, but I'm almost positive.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right, because it wasn't lucrative.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I was going to say, what are your thoughts on the Manchurian candidate?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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where they or hypnotize them to do whatever you want them to do so a manchurian candidate is uh somebody who doesn't understand that he's been compromised yes so you're if you if you had had you'd been dosed with lsd you'd been brainwashed over and over and over again altered and then put back into society and told to run for president so you run for president
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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everybody helps you, you become president, and one day all we have to do is somebody says to you, pink ponies love rainbows, and you immediately go, Oh, my gosh. Or you immediately say, we need to go ahead and launch an invasion into North Korea immediately. And you're just like, what are you saying? You've been pre-programmed to do something based on something.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You're going to be a you're going to be a duck. And next thing you know, they say something. They start walking around quacking like a duck. They've seen that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
And I'm sure the mafia felt like, hey, we helped elect you. Absolutely. We were hoping that you would back off. You know, as a you know, as a quick pro quo, pro quo, for sure.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
No, no, I don't believe that. I was just going to say, I mentioned it earlier. It was that interview with Putin where they say, are you concerned about the presidents of the United States or who's going to be the next president? And he said, it doesn't really matter. Because he said, he's already been through, what, three presidents? Three or four presidents?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
And he was like, it doesn't really matter. He's like, look, the presidents run on agendas. Mm-hmm. Then they get elected. They get into office. He said, and he actually says like, he's like, men show up with briefcases, he said, and gray suits. He said, like mine. And he kind of, you know, he said, but not, he's actually kind of funny.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
He goes, he said, he said, they typically don't, he goes, he said, black suits or gray suits and a gray tie. He said, not a red tie. Like he said, like I wear. But, you know, he says all these he's kind of super descriptive on the suits, which is odd because they show up, they sit down and they explain how things work. He said, think about it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
He said when Obama took office, he said he was going to first thing he was going to do was close down Guantanamo Bay. You know, and he said, did he? He never did. He said, when he starts naming all these different promises, he said that they could have shown up and with a stroke of a pen, this is done. That's it. Totally up to me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
He said, but what happens is these men show up, they explain how things work. And then they allow them to continue going forward. He said the next president comes in. He has all these things on his agenda. They walk in. They say these are acceptable. These aren't. He said because the presidents are figureheads and they don't really run.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Oh, listen, what was it? Trump said, I'll... He initially said he was going to... He would find out. He would let you know. He would this. And then he got in and he says... And during his son was actually interviewing him, he said, I... I would like to tell you what I know is very interesting, he said. But he said, I'll think about it or something like that. But he never says anything.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Because Carter supposedly saw a UFO.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Well, then you've got these guys in front of Congress saying, no, no, you don't understand. There's a whole secondary system that is outside of the purview of the president that actually run these programs. And you think about it. And the president has to have plausible deniability for certain things as well.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Or does even get to know, like, let's face it, maybe they just say, no, you're not allowed to know. And think about it. Think about the Pentagon has never successfully passed an audit. And it's not always like, oh, it's off by 11 million. It's off by billions.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
blowing up on september the next day listen there was like i want to say and i could be off on the number it was like 300 million dollars flown in on like a dc something to uh iraq flown in on pallets disappeared Where did that? We need that, man. Where did that go? Just disappeared. Like and they're like, yeah, we don't know what happened. We took it off the plane.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Someone dump a pallet on the backyard here. I mean, I mean, like, how does that disappear? How is it landed on a military base? How does it disappear? And they're like, yeah. And nobody, no huge investigation, no tracking it down, no video cameras, no, just gone. Yep. Like that's not, you know, not that the Federal Reserve couldn't just print up more money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
But still, the fact that even that you can track the fact that this money is missing tells you that a lot more has got to be missing. Absolutely.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Listen, listen, 10, well, let's say 15 or 20 years ago, like half the conversations I have now, I would roll my eyes at. The things that I believe now, to me, 15 or 20 years ago would have been laughable. It's like, are you serious? Like, bro, aliens? Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
And it's all set up and it's all set up to think about the name Federal Reserve. Yeah. Well, then it's federal, right? No, no, it's not federal. It's like, oh, but the president chooses that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
who runs the federal reserve no he doesn't they go to him with like five names that they've all been approved by the federal reserve they've agreed these five guys we're okay with mr president pick from one of these five because we're good with any of them so you tell me did he elect it looks like he elected them it looks like he chose the guy oh i like this guy okay good we don't give a which one you choose
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
You don't really have a choice anyway.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
And they did. They didn't. They were there. The agreement was with the Cubans or with the What was the name of the unit? They called it the 50 or 542. I forget what it was. But the unit that landed, they had an agreement with the Americans. Like, all you have to do is get a beachhead. Yep. As soon as you get a hold of a beachhead, we'll send in support. We'll send in air support.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
That's what it started, the fiat system. It's an illusion to it's an illusion. It creates an illusion of security that is really not there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Open a bank? Have you ever really looked into it? It's... I mean, it's not easy. Like the guy that works at Tire Kingdom can't open one. But if you had a few million dollars, you can open a bank. Yeah. You really... Because what happens is all you have to do... Because each state has its own banking policies, right? So you open a bank in Florida. You can then turn around... And it's easy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Like, for instance, you go to the Department of Banking and Finance and they'll say, well, look, you need $5 million. You can put in... half the money. Raise half the money. You need a physical location, which by the way, the physical location has to meet certain guidelines.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Or you can have an offshoot of a physical location, which means you could have a parent bank, like Bank of America can represent you. So you could basically have your bank can be in like a strip mall. So you have a little strip mall bank. You don't have anything. You're just an offshoot. You have a parent company like Bank of America to represent you. You pay them a small fee.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
And then you only have to have the people that run the bank only have to have a few years experience in banking. So now you're a state bank. So if I have a couple million dollars, I can raise the rest of the money from selling stock in the company. So now I'm a bank. Now I become a bank. And I'm under the umbrella of a larger bank like Bank of America.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
And you don't have to stay that way, but you can. And then once you're a state bank, you can then apply to become an FDIC insured bank. So you actually have state banks that are small, local state banks like credit unions, things like that. Then you can become a federally insured bank, an FDIC insured bank by the federal level. But you don't have to. You don't have to do that, but you can.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
And all you have to do to have that is you have to meet the Federal Reserve requirements, which is really almost identical to most of the states, which is some of the people that run the bank have to have so many years in experience running banks. And most of these bank presidents So if you were a bank president of another bank, you can be the bank president, by the way, of multiple banks.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
We'll send in everything. And they actually got a hold of it, held it for three days. And the Kennedys never sent anything.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
So I just go to you and say, I'll pay you this much to qualify us to become a federal, an FDIC insured bank. And now I get to borrow money from the Federal Reserve.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
When I looked into it, it was like you literally could do it for like... it was like two and a half, a bank in Florida for like two and a half million. So you only had to have like a million in change. Like I'm sure it's higher now. That's why I was saying two and a half million, like whatever it is now, I don't know. But back then it was ridiculous. And I only knew that because a guy that I,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
a mortgage company, a lending company I was dealing with came to me one day and said, would you be interested in buying stock in this bank that we're opening? And I was like, what do you mean? And he said, yeah, we're going to open a bank. He said, that way we can start borrowing money directly from the Federal Reserve. And I went, You can't just open a bank.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
You're a lender, which only required $250,000 in reserves. To be a correspondent lender, you had to have like $50,000 in reserves, which is what I had. And only $10,000 of that had to be liquid. So my company only had to be worth like $40,000. And I had to have $10,000 sitting there. And now I'm a correspondent lender. So I'm going over all this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
And he explained the whole thing, pulled the pamphlets out, everything. And I remember going... This is insane. Yeah. For less than $2 million. And you think fractional lending. I mean, seriously. And then he started explaining borrowing money to lend to people and getting a mortgage. And then once you have that mortgage, you can use that as collateral to borrow additional.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
You borrow like 10 times the amount of mortgage. I'm like, that doesn't even make sense. He's like, I know, bro.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
But the Fed will lend you if you have something of value of $10,000, they'll allow you to lend $100,000. That's the fiat system. And so, OK, so now if I lend that money and get mortgages, use that money to open up mortgages. And now I own the possession of those mortgages are valued at one hundred thousand. Now I have one hundred thousand dollars. Can I borrow a million? Of course you can.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
What are you talking about? You're continuing to lend me money based on instruments that you're helping me create. In the end, my bank is worth very little money. You see what I mean? You're not worth a whole lot. Like you're continually lending me on the same money. The principle that you're setting forth, the underwriting guidelines you're setting forth, you're helping me to create.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
I don't actually have any of this money. So that's why a lot of these banks, they can't let them go under. Right. Because the domino effect would be horrible.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
He had taken a plane out. He was a pilot, but he wasn't certified to fly the plane simply by... He was only sight rated, not instrument rated. Yeah, he wasn't instrument rated. So when he went out and it was night, he became disoriented and the plane crashed, you know, supposedly.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
His fiancée was with him and his... Was it his fiancée?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
You know, like at the last minute, like the sister was going to come with him. Like, oh, how fucking horrible. Yeah, terrible.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
You never know. I always assumed he was he was banging the chick. Yeah. You know, and that he got drunk and went off like I. Yeah. Right. And obviously he wasn't able to run for president. He stayed. He was a senator and he stayed a senator.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
So what's next? What's going on? I don't know. Are we wrapping this up? You know, I think we could... How long do we got?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
What about the Secret Service agent that just recently came out with a book?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Yeah. All right. Are we good? We're good.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Listen, I honestly, I still, the JFK movie with Kevin Costner and Oliver Stone.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
He was huge. He had a couple of disappointing shows. Yeah. He was big on hype. Yeah. You might have wanted to open that safe first.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Yeah, he got punched. Oh, yeah, yeah, he got punched on that. He had kind of like a Jerry Springer type show for a while there and actually just got punched right in the face. Bam! I mean, like blood, the whole thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
It was crazy. This was back when Oprah was, you know, interviewing, you know,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
uh um midgets or or you know little people dwarfs that had sex with their you know chiropractors or whatever you know it was like it was just she wasn't giving out dishwashers no she she was uh yeah this is when she first started it was like oh these are horrible but as she became more popular she was able to slowly like okay we're done with the dwarfs
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
It's good stuff. Yep. All right. I'm going to thank you for coming. Thank you for having me. And you're going to take me to lunch now. Absolutely. And let me wrap this up. All right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
We'll try and figure something out. I appreciate you guys watching. Thank you much. Thank you much. Thank you very much. See ya. Dave, how are you? I'm good. I'm good. I got a little story to tell you. I know. So you contacted me. You said, Hey man, listen, I knew this guy. He was a con man. This is an insane story.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
And then we talked on the phone a couple of times and you like, you're not obviously the con man, but you were, you ended up living with this guy and you were friends with them for how long?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
What happened? Like how, like one, did you ever find out like, you know, Had he ever done this before? He'd done it before. Right. And then what? So then he comes into town. And he darts over. He moves to Florida. Where had he lived before? Cleveland, Ohio. And he'd done it in Cleveland. Yes. What had he done there?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
He'll help you move.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
People don't want to give gamblers money to invest.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
I was like, when we say antiquing, we mean. I mean, like going, buying antiquing. So you think he's really going antiquing. I thought antiquing was code for I'm at the races.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
So when you say antiquing, you're saying you really think he was going antiquing?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Is it true? I doubt it. But I mean, he's definitely got him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
So he's got his con game down.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
You poor tortured soul. Let me invest in some antiques.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
I was just going to say, I had always heard he was foul-mouthed. Oh, terrible. Rude. He was the opposite. He was completely unpolished. He was a bully, which means a completely different man.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
It's just your intuition.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
You typically need to have an organized mind in order to be an organized person. You can fake it, but you can't fake it all the time if it's just not true to your nature. Very well said, Matt.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Totally inappropriate. But anyway, what is that? You know what? And I feel bad. I feel bad. Nobody feels worse about this than me. But that fucker was thick.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
What about the secret service agent that just recently came out with a book? He basically said that. Hey, this is Matt Cox, and I am here with Dave Wheelhauser. Now, I'm going to say, we're going to be talking about the assassination of President Kennedy. And do you want to do, are we going to do Robert Kennedy? Yeah, we'll talk a little bit about Robert, because it ties into it. All right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Then you don't own it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Well, exactly.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
With Jennifer's money or with Tom's money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
JFK’s Final Moments and the Secret Fallout | New Evidence
Or Bill's money. Exactly. He could be a big shot. Listen, I was a big shot with the bank's money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Wow.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
They're very good.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Wow.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Mm-hmm.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
I told you that's what I did.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yes, I did.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right. You know, sad man. So we're screwed.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Go stand somewhere else dude. Go stand somewhere else.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
This is free speech time.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Other than feasting, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Are you for a bargain?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Wow.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
That's not true.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
That's not true.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
That's not true.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
I'm gonna stay right here.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Get the fuck away.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
This is my face.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Get the fuck away.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
You are calling her.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
You are calling her.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
You are calling her.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
You are causing harm.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Hey!
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Hey!
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Hello!
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
You are causing harm. Yes, you are. You're in my space. You're in the room. You're doing damage right here. Right here. Right here. Dude, get the bullhorn out of my face!
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Hey! He damaged my hearing doing that! Shut up! He damaged my hearing! Now I can't, really! I can't say he just damaged my hearing!
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
I've been watching you, you're out here causing this problem.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
This is legally protesting! You should be ashamed of yourself for being un-American.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Come on. Where's your car at, Andrew?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Dude, I am legally... Where's your car at? Don't fucking touch my son. Where's your car at? Dude. Go to your car. Go to your car. I am legally protesting. You don't want that in front of little kids. I am legally protesting. Let's go. Dude, you're violating my civil rights. I don't care. Take it up with the court. Did you hear him say this? I don't care. Go ahead. Did you hear?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Dude, get the fuck out of my space, man.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Where's your car?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Get the fuck out of my space.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Get away from the kids. I can fucking live. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Go to your car. Wherever your car is.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Hey, can you get the supervisor? Go to your car. Get the supervisor. He's touching my shit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Go to your car. He's touching my shit. I'm not going to harass these kids.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
This is not harassing. You're harassing these kids.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
You're stopping traffic.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
I am not stopping traffic. Bullshit. Go.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Go. I am legally protesting. Get protests away from the school. I can protest. Who fucking tested my shit, man? I got a shoe.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
I got a shoe. Get your shoes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Get your shoes. Come on. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. And you're telling me to leave why? I'm telling you because you're calling a disturbance.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I am not.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
You're stopping traffic. I did not. I'm not here for no reason. I did not. I did not. Watch the pole. Watch the pole, Andrew. I did not cop. Andrew, don't call me cop. It's Detective Delgado. You got it on your camera. Let's go. Come on. Quit fucking touching me. Get away from here. Fuck you. I don't care whatever you think that's going to hurt me. Watch the poles. Let's go. Let's go.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
You're not going to be over here terrorizing these kids.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Terrorizing? Come on. Let's go. I am fucking waiting for people, ass fuck. Let's go.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
You're not going to terrorize these kids. You protest all you want over here, but you're not going to be in front of that school.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Seriously?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
You heard me? You got me on camera? What, you think I'm worried about that dog on camera? Wow. You clearly think I don't care about that camera. Let's go. Go to your car. Wow. Wow nothing. Don't go back to that school.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
I'm trying to cross the street and you are fucking assaulting me, ass.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Whatever. Hold on. Let this idiot crawl.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Wow, you're the one that's a fucking Nazi.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
You don't even know what it is to serve.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Oh, for the founding fathers, you stupid. Fuck you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
You're out of here. Get out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Fuck you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Interesting.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Or is it just state? That's state. That's a state statute, which is law.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
That's correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
That is correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Wow.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
He did it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Mm-hmm.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
That's correct. And of course, that got thrown out. It's disgusting. It's disgusting.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
That is correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
That is correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Literally. That is true. I agree with that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yes, that's what they are doing. Stop, people, give me your papers. Thank you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
I need to see your driver's license. I agree.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
That is correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
That's correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yeah, they're idiots. It's really scary.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
That's your schools, buddy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yeah, that's correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
That is correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
That is correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
I forget.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
I did not know that. And won the lawsuit. Did not know that. See, we're doing history class here. This is awesome.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yep, correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yeah. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
He's right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
That is correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Very good.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
That's correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
That's correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yep.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yes, they did.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
That's correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right. It's like,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yes, they say it. That's correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
I'm gonna stay right here.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
This is legally protesting. Where's your car at, Andy?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Well, they're trying to shut you down.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Dude, it's bad. It's bad.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
It's bad.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
It's bad.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Oh, all right. Right, right, right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
That's correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Once you start, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Why? That's correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Exactly.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right, right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Professional Protester Life EXPOSED | Wild Stories You Won’t Believe
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
No, you got to learn all this stuff, dude. You got time to learn it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
Well, then say that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
I'm good with that. Yeah, me too. You bribed some people in India to get a base or to get a contract. I'm OK with that. Right. Tell me. Exactly.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
And he doesn't know how he got there. He was in New York.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
The trucker might have hit him in the head. That's possible. I'm just saying there's an explanation for that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
From the ski slope?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
How crazy is that?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
They can't even... These are dogs who are used to it. They love it. They love the hunt. They can't even get a sense.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
that disappear, and they end up 10 miles away on the top of a mountain, and they can't explain it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
They find the child, but it's like several days later. He's fine, but he's on top of a mountain 10 miles away. A two-year-old can't do that. Well, who's on top of the mountain to find him? Well, the search team's. Search teams go all over the place.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
They don't fuck around.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
He wants to do it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
He wants to do it. No, he doesn't. I asked.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
All right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
He gets so upset.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
It's like, what are you doing? What are you doing? Well, I thought it'd be all right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
Bailout is a psychological true crime thriller that pits a narcissistic conman against an egotistical, pathological liar. Marcus Shrinker, the money manager who attempted to fake his own death during the 2008 financial crisis, is about to be released from prison, and he's ready to talk. He's ready to tell you the story no one's heard.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
Shrinker sits down with true crime writer Matthew B. Cox, a fellow inmate serving time for bank fraud. Shrinkert lays out the details.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
The disgruntled clients who persecuted him for unanticipated market losses, the affair that ruined his marriage, and the treachery of his scorned wife, the woman who framed him for securities fraud, leaving him no choice but to make a bogus distress call and plunge from his multimillion-dollar private aircraft in the dead of night.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
The $11.1 million in life insurance, the missing $1.5 million in gold. The fact is, So...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
That's true. It is. I'll send you the stuff. Listen.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
Yeah, I understand. But if I wanted to do that, I wouldn't need to talk to you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
I'm saying, all right, we'll read his books. He's got his books out. He's got books out. He's got a documentary out. Why don't you have a book out? I don't care for it. For what?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
What am I going to write about? What am I?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
Mm-hmm.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
UFO Whistleblower EXPOSES Government Cover-Up & Alien Secrets
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Viral CON ARTIST Fakes Cancer & Steals Millions | Elizabeth Teckenbrock's Husband Exposes Everything!
She's battling the hell out of this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Viral CON ARTIST Fakes Cancer & Steals Millions | Elizabeth Teckenbrock's Husband Exposes Everything!
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Viral CON ARTIST Fakes Cancer & Steals Millions | Elizabeth Teckenbrock's Husband Exposes Everything!
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Viral CON ARTIST Fakes Cancer & Steals Millions | Elizabeth Teckenbrock's Husband Exposes Everything!
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So if I raise $5 million from eight different people and I buy a piece of property, I'm buying it for $5 million. What am I? You're saying I'm, I'm getting, I'm raising 5 million. What are we buying with that 5 million? We're buying something worth 5 million.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So that's just like the down payment. So the 5 million is like a down payment on a,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So I know up front, if I'm trying to buy a piece of property, we're buying the property for $10 million, but the bank's going to lend $7 million. We need $2 million for the down payment, $3 million for all of these other renovation fees, all these other fees. And of course, the closing costs and my fee is going to come out of that, the extra $3 million.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So you're saying if you raise the whole $5 million, then you can. So you know up front, I need to raise $5 million. And the more of that $5 million I raise, the more money I'm going to get.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Well, I was going to say, so, so you get to that point and now you've put together a team. Do you end up buying any property? You find proper, are you finding properties, putting together the, the, um, business plan? Are they buying into it? I mean, are, do any of these go through?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
I thought they were going to provide the sponsor.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
How much are you paying for the program? Well, they're... Because so far you paid $1,000 just to go to the class.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Yeah, right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
We already know that's not true.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So you paid the $40,000? Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Okay. Right. Is that kind of what happens?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
How many people were in that class?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Is there an actual location to this place? Can you jump in your car and drive to an actual office where you can say, hey, I want to talk to Bob?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Right. It's a lot of rah, rah, rah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
But not a ton of substance. Not a ton of – exactly.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Not really a step-by-step plan. It's more like – Oh, no. John's going to come out on stage and tell you how much money he's made with the program. He comes out and tells you and you're like, wow. Bill comes out and tells you how much he's going to. And if you buy these tapes – than this. And if you buy this and if you sign up for this, he signed up, Bill was doing horrible.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
And then he signed up for this and he got a free, he got the mentorship and the mentor helped him. And then Bill tells you about how he, found a property and the guy helped them structure it. And he bought it for a million dollars and put almost no money down. And then he sold the property two years later for 2.5 million. He pocketed a million dollars and now he's a big shot.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
He's in the middle of four more properties and it's all because of this mentorship and you're ready to, you're ready to run up your credit cards and give them as much money as you can. Cause dammit, you could be billed too.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
I'd love, I could run one of these.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
You walk out of there thinking, yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
But in reality, you're like, I don't have one clue as to how to start.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Well, the mentorship, he'll know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
I need to pay that fee.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
If you say anything, they bash you, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
They bash you because, I mean, that's the Grant Cardone, Wes Watson, you know, these guys that they sell these programs. The moment you say, hey, listen, man, I've done everything you told me to do, and I'm not making any money, they immediately say it's because you're a loser. Exactly. Because you're the fuck up. You don't know what you're doing. You're a screw up. You're doing it wrong.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
You're the, and everybody else bat jumps on the bandwagon and bashes you. And then you typically, that guy typically goes away and they don't give him his money back. They just call him a bunch of names, tell him he's – it's because everybody – Bob made a bunch of money. Bob's no better than you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Or maybe Bob is better.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
You're not following the program. And then that guy gets upset and he goes away and you just get to keep his $27,000 or $40,000 or whatever it is. And, you know, I was thinking when you were saying earlier that, you know, like the guy, the main guy, the front man, like, you know, he's usually typically super charismatic, good looking, looks successful.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
You know, they tried that with like a fat, poor, ugly guy. Yeah. But, you know, con men eventually realized like that. That's this isn't the way to go. We can't have the fat, ugly guy with no money go out here. We need to get a good, a well-spoken, clean cut, rich guy. That's the guy. That's why they do that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
They picked him out of the three. This is a guy. You guys, you can't be on camera.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Well, I was wondering, I'm thinking the one guy, and then I'm thinking like the one guy you never hear about, that's really the fall guy. You know what I'm saying? That's the guy, if it all comes down, they're going to be like, well, Todd is the one who was behind the whole thing. But really, there's like, is no Todd.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Oh, okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
It's good to have a fall guy, is all I'm saying.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Next year?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
You get a bunch of investors that dump money into a fund. You buy the properties.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And then they're supposed to get a dividend when they start making money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I was going to say, are you charging to be paid? No. Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right. Had you, but at this point, had you found an apartment complex and closed on it yet?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Manage it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
OK.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
They're not selling brand new perfect properties at a discount. You know what I'm saying? You have to find one that's older that needs a rehab to get a deal.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Right. But you haven't done anything yet. You just have the deal.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So if the property you're buying is $5 million and the bank says, we'll lend you $3 million because on a commercial loan, they don't really care where the down payment comes from as long as they're not lending too much money. Like if they were lending 95%, they'd be like, oh, no, no, no. We need to know exactly where all the down payment money is, who's going to manage it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Did you close the deal?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So what was interesting, what you thought it was going to be?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
But if they're putting down 60% loan to value, $3 million on a $5 million purchase. They're putting down $3 million. They can't lose. Like if it goes under, the bank's getting their money back. Everybody else might lose their money, but the bank's going to get their money back. So you're saying that you've got the, what do you call them, primary partners?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Okay. Did you get your 50,000 back?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
How much money did you make?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
I understand that. But when you closed, you thought you were going to get a certain amount of money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Okay. Was it enough to cover the 50,000 that you put in?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So you're in the hole after the closing. Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Okay. So go ahead. I'm sorry.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So the general partners are putting up whatever. A million. And then the next millions coming from limited partners, the limited partners have no say in anything though. They're giving you like, here's 20 grand, here's 40 grand, here's five grand.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Okay, so real quick, you keep saying you're doing great. You're in the hole. You haven't been paid. You've put together a team of people that aren't being paid. You forked out 50 grand for upfront fees.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
These other people that are mentoring you, that are qualifying for the loan and everything else haven't put up a dime. That doesn't sound to me like you're doing great at all.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
And you closed on it, got a check, still didn't recoup your original investment. You've been working on this over a year. Yeah. and you're in the hole, you're not doing great. I don't know what you're about to say, but I promise you at the end of this, whatever you're about to say, I still am going to think you're not doing great. Why didn't you think to yourself? I understand.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
I get that we go to these seminars, people are coming up to me. They respect me. They're asking my advice. I'm an authority. I'm being asked to talk on stage. All of that is a great feeling, but in the end, I'm in the hole.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
And they're going to get a percentage on whatever that property ends up yielding after the rehab, after it's renovated, after it's occupied, after everybody gets paid, whatever profit, they get a little piece of that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So you're rolling it over.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Into the next deal.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So you're just going to, you're going to continue to run with it thinking at some point it's going great. It's going great. It's going to pay off. It's, and you don't really need the money right now. You've got a hundred grand or so.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
In Orlando?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Oh, great. We'll have to go by. We'll have to swing by.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Because it takes time.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
More money you don't get back.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Whoa.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Right. Why are they still raising money on a deal that closed?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
You can't invest in it anymore.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Right. But they're, they're working for nothing. Like they're, they're bailing out because it's been a year and change and they haven't really made any money thinking money's coming their way. But every deal they're in the hole.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Are they being paid?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So they made a little bit of money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Well, the underwriting guidelines are more laxed because the bank is in first position and they're not covering 90% of the purchase. They're covering 60%. Right. It got lower over the last couple of years.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
I mean, this is a soap opera. What's going on with these guys?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So you start helping those students try and get their money back? You're trying to get your money back. Are you helping them try and get their money back?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
It has to be friends or family.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Yeah, I'm not an accredited investor.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Because it appears that they're still a part of the deal when they've already got their money back.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So the investors that originally put in the money have no idea she was paid back.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So, I mean, at what point, when do you get to the point where you're like, you're either going to sue or how does this move on to any type of, like, do you ever go to law enforcement? Do you ever decide I'm going to hire these attorneys to sue? No.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Mm-hmm.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
One of your attorneys?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
They're supposed to be transparent.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Right. I understand. So what what did you do after the lawyers? Like at some point, doesn't don't the authorities get involved?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Did he say why?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Was it a blatant fraud?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So they're like unlicensed brokers or financial advisors, but they're supposed to be licensed. They're just not.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Well, I mean, if they spent money managing those apartments, they wouldn't have the time to raise as much money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
And where their profit is raising the money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like there's an SEC investigation, right? At some point the SEC comes in and the SEC says, Hey, will you sit down with us and go over all of this?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So you, and did you brought, when did that happen?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Where did that take place?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So what, they just came in with two agents or was it three agents? Who was there?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Okay. And so how long did you talk to them? You lay all this out over the course of an hour or two?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Did you provide them with the documentation?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So the SEC is investigating, which probably takes a year or two. And then the FBI is sitting in on the phone call. And from my experience, the reason the FBI sits in on these phone calls or these meetings is because the SEC will come forward and they'll start a civil lawsuit and they'll file a lawsuit against numerous people.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
And then, of course, if those people end up trying to fight the case, they'll typically go to trial. It's a civil trial. And during the civil trial, they end up divulging a bunch of things, right? They're subject to discovery. You get to go through all their stuff. They end up fighting an entire case.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
And even if they win civilly, which doesn't sound like that's going to happen here, but I'm not a lawyer. So if they win or lose civilly, I've seen companies win the civil case And then the FBI brings a criminal case against them. And then, of course, they're just doomed because the FBI doesn't indict anybody criminally that they don't already think they have a solid case at.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
And they got like a 97% conviction rating. But all of that takes a lot of time.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
And just like you said, they're continuing to –
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
You can't? Okay. Okay. Do you have a rough number? A couple hundred? A hundred thousand? Around?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Holy shit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Even if they give you a discount.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
How many people really pay the 40? It's probably quite a few, quite a few.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So what were these people apply for a credit card and the guy, they put their doubt, then they put their, their fee on the credit cards.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So they're financing the $40,000.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Well, we'll put the description.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
What happens during that? Did they teach you everything to acquire the product or they're really just trying to move you to the next level?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Mm-hmm.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
And they're still using it. They still got it up on the website. That's amazing. Knowing all of this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
But I mean, how did they like, how did, did somebody end up saying, did you pay the 40,000 or?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
And we just wrap it up. Do you have anything else? You good?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So how did you get, how'd you get hooked up with, uh, with Barry? Because we had Barry on the program. He did like an hour and change. Was it two hours? It might have been two or three hours. Barry's a talker.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So anyway, we talked to Barry, and that's how you and I got connected.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So we did his story, but how did you hook up with him?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Once again, thank you very much. I really appreciate it. See ya.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Yeah, well, yeah, they have no... I would say you can prove... You can convince anybody you're an expert if you just have a little bit more knowledge than they do. Like you don't need to have a whole bunch more, just a little bit, just enough for you to kind of go, what? I've never heard about that. Yeah, this is how it works. And even if it's not true...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
If it's not true, then it's even easier to convince them that you're an expert, especially on something they've never heard. They don't know anything about this. They don't know. They don't know to say, well, wait a minute. No, no.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
I know they might if they were if they were a licensed stockbroker or a licensed financial advisor or they were licensed like a mortgage broker, they might be in a position to say, wait, they've already taken a class. They might be like, wait a minute.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Well, how much is the investor giving, putting into the deal in order for me to charge $40,000? Or you're just saying I can just – charge them, Hey, $40,000 to allow you to be a part of this deal. And then they put in $10,000 and give me 40. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So if I've got five investors, each one of them is putting in the minimum, $100,000 a piece, that's half a million dollars. Then when we go to closing, they put in the half a million dollars and my broker fee or whatever, I'm sure they don't call it a broker fee.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
The acquisition fee is $40,000 and that fee goes to me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So if the purchase price is, they're putting in half a million, purchase price is $2 million, and I'm taking 5% of $2 million and $40,000.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
1% loan guarantee. What does that mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
I'm charging them 1% and the 5% and the 40 grand.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
How many people were at the seminar?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Okay. How much are these investors expecting to get in return? Are they promised anything or they're just told or they're given a vague number like, oh, it could be up to...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Is this like a Hilton or is this like a Motel 6? Is this like a Hyatt? You walked in and said, hey, this is... It wasn't that nice of a hotel. You've been to them. You'll go in one place and you're like, they spent some money on this. There's some money behind this. And then other ones you go to and you're like, oh, wow, this is pretty bad.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
Right. Okay, so after the three days, you're being told there are all these different avenues that you can make money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So they're basically hiring you to do this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Secret Playbook of Online Gurus | Ex-Partner Exposes Everything
So they go out and try and find people to put in $100,000, $200,000.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I didn't, wasn't thinking he's cartel. You know, he's like, I'm not thinking that I'm nobody. He said it wasn't until pounds just kept coming and coming and coming. And I kept thinking I'm on the hook for this. Like now I'm realizing this guy didn't Give me 2,000 pounds on my word. He knows where I live. He knows where my parents live.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And he picks me up in the limo. Urban Cowboy was shot in Gillies. There you go. Yeah. You know who Urban Cowboy is? No.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Travolta, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
And sometimes just good old drug conspiracy cases happen. will get you a lot of time, too. Right. Yeah, they'll beat murder charges and stuff, and then they're like, oh, okay, well, I got convicted of drugs, and they'll get 30 years for drugs.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You just went to prison. You get out. I self-surrendered. You self-surrendered.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
So, you went back to Miami. Like, how long were you in Miami? You started, what, captaining a boat for your mom?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Right. I mean, when you left the halfway house.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
He got arrested doing a load or bringing in a load for your mom, right? So he was already there once. He was already there with those guys or with the other crew members. Just one. Just one? Yeah. And then Doug got caught with what? Two guys?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Um, under Batista. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Right. They even need that law.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Wait a minute. So he was there. Your mom was going in every month or so bringing food.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right. So you know who Jesse Jackson is, right? Sounds like a president to me. No, so, wow. So, Jesse Jackson is, Jesse Jackson was a preacher. He had actually studied under or was under Martin Luther King, right? Like, in all the marches and stuff, he was in that whole organization. Well, at some point in the, is this the 70s or 80s, early 80s? Let's see.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, I think so. So one of the problems with him is that a lot of the candidates were saying he has no, like, international experience. Like, this is a civil rights leader. Like, how's he going to run for president? So he goes on this mission and he, like, gets, like, a downed pilot, like, out of Russia. Then he goes and negotiates to get, is it 22 or 23? 22 Americans.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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22 Americans gets Castro to release 22 Americans that are being held in a Cuban prison. Two of those, one of them was Doug Hudson, Mike's brother. And the other one was Bobby, what's Bobby's last name? Bobby Young, which is the guy that ends up, is the guy on his case that worked for his mother. So they actually... So he flies in there on his private plane, convinces Castro to let these guys go.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They load them all up and fly them into Washington? Where are they flying?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
So did your mom and your aunt, Carol Jean, went and picked him up in the RV?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Okay. So this is the second time your brother has escaped a prison sentence that probably should have killed him. Yeah. So I mean, so now, but at this point, like you guys are, are, he comes back, you guys start bringing in, uh, you know, larger and larger loads right now. Like now you kind of go full tilt into, um, into bringing in loads from what, from Jamaica and, and, uh,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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All right. All right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Right. And... but this guy was also talking about possibly like you guys figure out that he's talking he's he's been he's been targeting he was targeting known drug dealers well this that individual you're referring to did not come you gotta did not come come into the equation until years later when I ended up in a state prison in Florida
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Is this the guy, okay, is this the guy that shoots at the car, like you guys get into an argument, he shoots at the car?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
He didn't know who this guy is.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Right. So, I have a question. Do you remember when your brother... Doesn't your brother get... Doesn't your brother get left in the mountains somewhere? Is it?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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What happened?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Down where?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
So, as soon as the plane landed, he goes off into the fucking jungle to take a piss.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
These guys landed on a strip in the mountains.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Right. To basically load up cocaine. Or was it marijuana? Marijuana. Yeah, marijuana. And it's like they didn't pay. And so they pulled the pilot and the co-pilot out of the plane. They're standing there. They're like, okay, you guys didn't pay. And they execute them. Well, Doug just happened to be taking a piss in the jungle. So he takes off.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Okay. In the state prison in North Florida. And they robbed the banks and the cops come to see you? Yeah. But what I was thinking is what got you, you ended up doing a stint in the state of Florida. And was that for the fight?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right, but you weren't even going to sell them Coke, was it?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Yeah, you scoop out the eight ball, and if they want to test it, they can test it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
99% of it's sugar, but you've got, you know the spot where the coke is, so they scoop it up and test it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
So how much time did she get?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
You never know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Well, when you, so when you were locked up though, some detective or was it FBI? FBI came to see you, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Claker.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Right. Well, I thought it was because he would run and jump over the... I guess, because I never knew the guy. Right. I read the articles. I remember getting the articles.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Right, so they... He and Claker decide to start robbing banks. They start robbing banks. Then they end up... It gets hot and the banks are being watched and they're concerned.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
This is a shootout on Bourbon Street.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
On Bourbon Street in New Orleans. He gets into a shootout with two fucking... Two cops. And they track him down in an alley. They shot him a bunch of times, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
No, no, I meant you were locked up and they came and showed you the pictures.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Right, right, right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Okay. How many, I mean, how large is the biker gang? It's a good size in Los Angeles. I mean, the Mongols? Yeah, they're international. Like, When you say you bring people in, I'm wondering, is it 5,000 strong? Is it 1,000 strong? I think the numbers on the book, it's 5,000 to 800.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, who was Don Arano's first? Most people don't know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
So, basically, the DEA had been formed because there were so many drugs coming into Miami at this time. And they're using boats that they can't catch.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Right. When you say Papa Bush, you mean... The dad. Right, right. So, Bush, who was... The head of the CIA.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, let's go back for a second. So Don Aranos is building these boats. But why was he killed? Like, I know you just ran through it real quick for me, but anybody watching this doesn't know half of what you just said.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right. But Ben Kramer was a huge importer or smuggler of marijuana. And he had already gotten like what? Like a life sentence? Yeah, a life sentence. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So Bobby blamed... the said that that uh that ben kramer had hired him to to uh to kill erinos but that's not the case it's not the case right and uh uh
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So the Coast Guard can grab him?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
And then Bobby waited on Aaron O's and killed him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Well, Bobby goes to Bobby goes to prison. And at this point, your your your mom's not doing well, right? Like your mom passes away.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
56. Man, that's young to die.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
So, well, so she, so she passes away and Bobby gets out of prison, but by, but you're not doing anything at this point.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
right and uh i went to work you know a tuxedo but it was it was pretty crazy you know working there okay okay so as a bouncer right well okay when i when we're locked up and i don't know where it is in the in the story but i want to mention this one story um i almost really want to mention it for colby's benefit um so
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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you so I'm writing this story I'm gonna tell you I'm writing this story right and I'm sure I'll I'm sure I'll fuck it up but I'm writing this story and Mike's telling me about how he's being trained by who was the boxer that was training you well I came home in 83 um in the federal prison camp you know we were I still had a lot of the the steroids the residual uh
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
No, no, this was in Miami. I'm talking about the time you were parking your Jaguar and these guys drive by. Who was that? Sorry. You were training with some boxer or something.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
They were good, though.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
I thought they were great. I thought they were great.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
All right. So he tells me this story, right? That was a longer version, but the story that I, you know, that the part that got me was three guys come up to you on the fucking street on the sidewalk and In the parking lot. You smashed three guys, chased one of them into the Piccadilly. That's when he pulled the knife on you. Took the knife away from him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oh, okay. I think in the book I wrote that he had pulled the knife inside. But anyway, he takes the knife away from him, smashes him in the face, right? The cops arrest him, take him away. And I remember when I heard the story, not that this is the most ridiculous story. Like out of all of them, there's tons of stories that are just like, that's just insane. That couldn't have happened.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But I read this, I mean, like I'm sitting there, I'm like, did he just say he beat up three guys on the fucking, that came up to him? And I thought, man, that's, you know, this is, it's, come on, stop it, bro. Like, stop, this is a, it's like a Clint Eastwood movie. An old, not the old, not old man Clint Eastwood when he was young, when he was in his 30s doing these things.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like, and I thought that there's no way. But I ordered the Freedom of Information Act. And as soon as I had written that, and I was still writing the story, within a week, I get the Freedom of Information Act and there's the report on the three guys that approach him that he gets into a fight with and there's a patch to it is a transcript of a hearing where it's your lawyer
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Yeah, that's how, so I read the whole transcript, and it is, there's three of them, they approach him, there's a fight, he hits the one guy, one guy runs away, another guy runs away, Mike chases him into the Piccadilly, and then... I'm reading the whole thing and I remember reading the whole thing. I'm like, okay, so that did happen. Like this is obviously this happened.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And in the very end, I'm like, it doesn't say anything about him. His teeth get knocked out. And then the very last thing is his lawyer says, do you regret approaching Mr. Hudson? And he goes, he goes, of course I do. I'd still have my two front teeth if I, if I hadn't approached him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So you come back, your mom says you got to get a job. You end up becoming a roofing contractor, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
That way you don't get any good time, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Then you started roofing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
So Bobby was released from Florida State Prison for the Aronow murder. And the first person he comes to look up is you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
From the feds, sorry.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Because how the federal president comes to you in 89 and says, listen, I'm going to buy a boat. I'm going to I want to start bringing in coke from the Colombians are going to buy the boat.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
And you guys start bringing in the boats, right? Captaining the loads that are coming in and out. How long does that go on?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
When he says he paid... So Bobby paid... He paid somebody, an accountant to... Tax attorney. A tax attorney. He paid him 40 grand to set it up so that he could take cash into a bank in Guatemala and deposit it like a... you know, we're going to bring that, but don't worry. I got a guy. Give me 40 grand. I've set it all up for you. You can go down there with the cash, but it's bullshit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
He just took the 40 grand. He never called. He didn't know anybody at the bank. So then Bobby tries to go in with the fucking money. Sorry.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
What year was this?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Where are we now?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
How did you find out?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
What was the amount of the indictment? Was the dollar amount was like, it was outrageous. It was...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Ghost dope, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
It's like $45 million or something?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
funds that they thought... Indictments. It says like $45 million or something. It's fucking ridiculous.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Damn.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Well, so they grab you. You don't go to... You can't go to trial. No, of course not. You're going to have... Bobby's going to testify...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
I blew my mind. Yeah. Like one of their, isn't that one of the?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Their ultimatum is, look, it's gold or lead.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
How much time did you do? Total.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
14 and a half. Went to the halfway house.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Yeah, from the pen to Coleman. Then you were at the low with me. Then I wrote this story. Then you got charged with inciting a riot.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Counselor. Oh, tell me about it. That's horrific. It's a guy who's basically he's a he's a lawyer and he knows that his clients are, you know, cartel. They're they're they're involved in, you know, drugs, drug smuggling, you know, and but he sees the kind of money they're making. And so at one point he gets into a drug deal where he puts up the money. You know, for the whole drug deal.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Well, I mean, you got out and you went to truck driving school and now you're driving a truck.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
All right, listen, I'm wrapping it up. Let me wrap this up real quick.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, one, I appreciate you coming by. So this is good.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Really appreciate you guys watching. Thank you very much. See you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
And it goes bad. Well, you know, the cartel, they come after him like they they grab his girlfriend. They torture her to death. They I mean, it's just everything that happens like they they kill one of the they kill, I think, a couple of the guys, people that were involved, like all these people that he's involved with.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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he first transaction goes decides hey i'm gonna get involved i'm gonna get myself a few million dollars and get out i've seen these guys do it off and on for years nobody will really know that i'm involved first transaction goes bad next thing you know people are getting whacked left and right kidnapped and they're and they're torturing him to death like they get his girlfriend and they and he knows what happens like they track her down they grab her and
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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you know, he's calling up begging, like, let me turn myself in, let me swap. And they're like, oh, it's too late. And then they send him like a DVD, a video of what they did to her.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I mean, it's just horrific. Like, what does she do? She's dating a lawyer. That's all she knows. And they know that. They know she has nothing to do with it. She's nobody. We're just going to grab this or You know, if you don't have kids, I mean, if you have kids, they'll grab your kids.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You know what's funny? I wrote a story about a guy named Kerry Woolsey. And he has a buddy named Danny Sweet. Anyway, when they first met their cartel contact, they're just selling pot. They're like, you know, no big deal. We're just selling pot. And it's funny because he buys like half a pound or something.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And then the guy that is selling him the weed ends up connecting him with the guy he buys it from, which is a Mexican guy. He said, so one day he shows up, he gives me like five pounds or something like that. I don't know what it was exactly, but it was a lot. He was like, wow, it is a lot of weed. He said, I sell it right away.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He said, then the guy says, hey, I'm going to come and I'm going to drop off like 50 pounds or was it like whatever, 10 pounds or 20 pounds. He shows up in an RV and he said, you know, we go in the RV and it The back of the RV, he said he like hit something on the dash and its little panel comes up in the middle of the floor. And he reaches under there and they start pulling out one pound.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He said, they're just, they're tied together. He said, he just keeps pulling them and pulling them and pulling them. Got to, I forget how many, if it was like a thousand pounds or something like that of marijuana. Yeah. And he just like, he's like, we were freaking out. But what was funny, I was like, he just gave you the weed like that, like on consignment.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And he said, well, he said, I didn't realize it at the time, but when I first met him, He said he could give it to me on consignment. And he said, but you know, I want to get to know you. Like, do you have good credit? What's your credit like? And he was like, this Mexican guy, he could barely speak English. And he was like, my credit, I have perfect credit. I have like 700 credit scores.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I'm perfect. I'm, you know, my car's financed. He's like, he's like, like, I thought it was funny. He said, and then he was like, so would you live around here? He's like, yeah, I live actually a couple miles away. And he's like, let's go by your house.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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yeah he's like i'm thinking he's talking about my credit he wants to go buy my house like i'm thinking we're being friendly we're friends you know not realizing if i don't pay him now he knows where my mom and dad live now you know but if you knew carrie he's such a it's just pot tim it's like it's just pot la la la well then when he thinks he's buying like whatever or he's getting fronted
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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20 pounds yeah instead the guy shows up with like 2 000 pounds yeah and he realizes how much trouble he's in now like if i got busted and now you gotta sell right you gotta work so it was it you know when he explains it he's like like i the guy was so nice he's like like i'm not realizing i don't he's like i didn't wasn't thinking he's cartel You know, he's like, I'm not thinking that I'm nobody.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He said it wasn't till they pull. It was just that the pounds just kept coming and coming and coming. And I kept thinking I'm on the hook for this. Like now I'm realizing this guy didn't give me two thousand pounds on my word. He knows where I live. He knows where my parents live. He knows. I mean, he's like, we spent the day together.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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uh his name is pierre racini anyway pete we call him pete so um pete actually it's so funny because we're talking way before that way before um breaking bad pete was in los angeles and actually started making um he was making ecstasy before it was illegal so he They were selling it at clubs as like an 18, 19-year-old kid, and he was Pete's super smart.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So one of his buddies, who's probably five or six years older than him, said, look, and these are all rich kids. Well, not Pete, but all of his buddies were rich kids. Sure, that's a good client. His buddy's 25 years old, and he's driving like a Ferrari. So he ends up finding a retired chemistry professor from like UCLA. and convinces him to train Pete on how to make ecstasy.
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So they, they keep Pete, they figure it out. They go back and forth. They reverse engineer the, the, the entire process. He figures it out. Well, that eventually that, you know, then the, it became illegal. Then the precursor materials became like illegal. Illegal too, yeah.
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So then, you know, he's like, but the problem is you can continue to, it just gets harder and harder to make it, but you can continue to break it down through other things. Well, there was some kind of an oil or something that they needed to, you know, extrapolate this certain chemical. And it turns out that the Hell's Angels had like two 50 gallon drums of it. And they said, look, we need that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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We'll pay you this much. And they said, no, no, no, no. We'll give it to you. We need you to manufacture this into ice. So Pete's like, well, that shouldn't be too hard. So he goes to the library and they figure out how to manufacture methamphetamine. So now we're manufacturing methamphetamine for the Hells Angels. And this is back in the mid to late 80s. Oh, yeah. They're big into meth.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Anyway, what happens is he this is continuing to happen. Right. He's doing this for years. Maybe they're doing it larger. I don't know. But anyway, he ended up doing it in like a penthouses and there's like some famous buildings. He was doing it out of like the penthouse. And what so here's what happens is, you know, they're having trouble, of course, getting the precursor, the materials. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And at some point they find out like they get Sudafed or something from Mexico through the cartel. Well, the cartel after he gets it and then they're trading with the cartel, they're trading the product through the cartel. The cartel comes to comes to Pete and says, look. come to Mexico. We'll set you up with a lab. We'll set you up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And, you know, he's like, they're trying to convince me to do this. He goes, and all I kept thinking is, no, they'll get me down there. They'll kill you. And I'll be a hostage. Like I'll train their guys and they'll just, they're not going to let me go. So he was terrified to deal with, with, he's like, cause you know, they, they, they are ruthless. He said, there's so much money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The thing is, with him and cooperation... these guys have such a short lifespan, like how much information can he give you? He can maybe tell you, yeah, I bribed this politician, I did this, but most of this stuff is what, 10 years old, 20 years old?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The problem is, I get you're saying it's an embarrassment, but with the exception of simply going and scooping up
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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every single one of these guys and executing them you can't what what do you do how do you fix it you can't they can't afford to house them they can't afford to they can't keep them right so well i mean even the low-level guys there's thousands and thousands and thousands hell ninety percent of your police forces is is being you know is probably on the take So what do you do? How do you fix it?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You don't have the money to combat that. You don't have the ability to house these people. So it's basically, it would have to be just mass executions and you're living in a 100% police state. That would be devastating.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's not going to happen. So you either make it 100%, and make it so that the, what, the cartel can't compete and tax the shit out of it. And then the cartel can't compete.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I mean, I think legal, I think partial, you know, look, what I think the quickest thing is basically just, you know, it would practically have to be genocide to go in and just wipe them out. But they're not going to do that. That's what I'm saying. They're not going to do that. But I'm saying that's the quickest.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's the quickest one is for the military to go down there and just track down anybody that's even you even think is related to the cartel. But I understand. I'm just telling you that would be the quickest and cheapest. So I think the other alternative is a combination of legalization of education and of offering, you know, drug rehabs, right? Like, you want a drug rehab? You can go.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That sort of thing. And I think that would, you could pull a lot of that from
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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you could pull a lot of that from um you know like the without giving out these outrageous sentences i mean at this point you realize that you can basically monitor people on ankle monitors like all these guys that are locked up for for 30 years for drug charges you've been giving people 20 30 years for drug charges it didn't do anything so why not give them
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Five years, let them out, put them on an ankle monitor and cut back on these massive prison sentences and have them pay for their own housing. You see what I mean? Like that's that alleviates the problem. And look, let's face it, with artificial intelligence and every other tracking device that's out there, you can track these guys pretty good.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And they'll be working, paying for their own food, paying for their own, you know, you can put them in halfway houses. Really, just let them stay in society and put on an ankle monitor and let them get a job. You know, so.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's been a failed model for 30 years. Shoot, for 40 years that's been a failed model.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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want to improve their lives i think we have to have different options but there's hardcore people you know and i've and i've been and i've arrested and i've dealt with they won't change no they won't change so we have to protect society from these animals right yeah prison is just a part of their life like going to prison doing a bid coming out that's just that's just part of my life and the nice thing is it's not hard to figure out who those guys are no you know come across quickly
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, you realize right away like, oh, this is prison's part of your life. Okay, well, then you get 40 years and you'll never get out. So let's go ahead and stop this cycle now. But those are few and far between for the most part. And a lot of these guys, a lot of these low-level drug guys that also go in and out, in and out, they have drug problems. They have no education. They have no choice.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They have nothing else they can do.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, I'm very happy. You're very happy out here. How long did you do? 13 years. I didn't know you did that long. Listen, three, they give me five years. I had probably learned my lesson. I'm pretty sure I would have been like, yeah, I'm good. I'm good. What would have been the amount you said I can do it again?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oh, if it had been under five years, because when I think most people think, oh, five years, I don't when I hear five years, I know that's three years. I know the drug program. I know time off. I know I'm going to do three years. I might even get six months halfway out. So it's really probably two, two and a half years.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So I'd say if you if they had given me 10 years, which is really what I thought I deserved, I would have never done it again. Five years and under. I probably would have done it again, five years and under. Because my fraud is difficult to detect, and it's extremely lucrative, and I felt it was very safe.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So if you said, hey, you're going to prison, and I did 18 months and got back out, that wouldn't have been much of a deterrent. But if I'd done... physically done five or six years in jail. That might have been it for you. I'd have been like, yeah, man, I'm not doing that again.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Hey, this is Matt Cox and I'm here with Ignacio Esteban and we are going to be talking about biker clubs and the biker wars. So what is the history of bikers? I actually kind of know the history a little bit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I knew right away, you lower your expectations of life and you realize, okay, honestly, I'm happy sleeping in someone's spare room and just being able to watch YouTube and having a regular job. Life is too good out here. You missed your late 30s and 40s in prison, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I was on the run for three years too. So now that 16 years of that, my life is just gone. That's rough, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah. It's all they know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So I tell you something, I think I might have told you this before. I was actually on the run when this happened. I was building houses, right? Like I was I owned a development company and we were bought a bunch of vacant lots. We're building new construction, which sounds funny to be on the run doing that. But it's like I have nothing to do. I have a bunch of money and nothing to do.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Would you have like a fake ID, fake identification? No, it was real. I went to the DMV. Bro, I've had 27 driver's licenses in seven different states. I've had two dozen passports issued by the State Department in different names. Different names. Different names. So I was living in Nashville and I started a development company to have something to do.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And I remember one time I went to Home Depot and you know, you go in, they, they, they order your, um, you go into home Depot, you give them your, your, uh, like a knockdown list of what you need. And they, they take the plans and they, they, They come up with a list of all the lumber, everything you need, and then they drop it on different pallets on the site.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But it's never quite enough. You're always missing something. There's always something. So I'm always in and out of Home Depot. So I went in one day, and I forget what I was buying. But there was this kid that was there, and I'd say he was 20, 21, well, probably 22, 23 years old, something like that. And they called him New Orleans. And this was probably a year after Katrina.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And I remember I'd seen him over and over again. And he was a hustler, thin black kid all over the place. They would say, you know, New Orleans, you know, hey, can you get me a price check on this? Or, hey, have you seen this? And you go, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we got it in the such and such. Hold on, man. And he'd literally like almost run down the aisles.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He was just so one time, you know, I saw him and I was like, you know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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you know hey New Orleans you know where's the such and such and because I was in there so much and and he was like hey it's here here and he walked me over there and I said um but why did they call you New Orleans I said I was actually in New Orleans yeah like two three months before Katrina I was there after Katrina oh yeah well so anyway he said and he sat there he said yeah he said I was there during Katrina and I started laughing I said really I said wow what happened he said bro he said I said man that's devastating he is oh he is Katrina saved my life
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And I went, what do you mean? He said, during Katrina or after Katrina, he said, they came in. He said he was living in that dome. The Superdome. Superdome. He said, train me on how to do it. He said, I've worked here for a year now. And I went, wow. And he said, changed my life. He said, before this, he said, I was selling drugs on the street. Both my brothers had been in and out of prison.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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My mom was in and out of prison. My dad's doing life in prison. He said, my cousins have been shot in prisons. Everybody's in a gang. He said, I was in a gang. He said, I came here. I got a fresh start. He said, I'm never going back. And I mean, he was just like, wow. That's great. I said, what happened to your family? And he said, yeah, I have no idea. I said, have you tracked him down?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He said, I haven't even tried. He said, I'll be honest with you, man. He said, I don't want to know. He said, I'm done. He said, he goes, I got a fresh start. He said, changed my life. I'm not looking back. But I mean, that's almost what you have to do.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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or his life not being that, he said, I never even considered another life. He said, that was, this is it, that was it. He said, I never considered it. He said, and, you know, he said, honestly, he said, there was just such a bad environment. He said, I just don't want, I don't want anything to do with any of it at all.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So, I mean, I don't know what his deal with, you know, I only talked once or twice, so who knows what the thing with the brothers is. And soon you were arrested after that. How did you get caught? Yeah, I got caught in Nashville. I got arrested. Dateline was coming out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They were doing a one-hour special on me, so I was planning on going to Australia, and we were pulling cash out of the bank, my girlfriend and I, and just over the course of several weeks, we were just pulling out as much as we could so that we could take off. Crazy, yeah. And my girlfriend confided in another girl, a friend of ours, who I was. Loose lips sink ships.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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She called the Secret Service and negotiated a ridiculous $10,000 reward or something. It was nothing. So she got a $10,000 reward for turning you over. For turning me in. Yeah. They just staked out my house for a few days, and one day I drove home.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You know, I was on the run and Dateline was doing a story about this guy who was on the run committing all these scams, these real estate scams. Wow. That's not good. When you're on the run, you don't want Dateline to be doing a story. No, you don't. You sure don't. What the heck? Yeah. So here's the thing. Like, there had already been, whatever, 30 or 40 newspaper articles.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But those are just newspaper articles, right? Like, that's not a big deal because they're in Tampa. They're local. Right. But I'm in Nashville. And then I'd been in Bloomberg Businessweek, had done two articles on me. And then Fortune magazine did an article, but I still was okay. Like, I was like, eh, it's not that, it's not, you know what I'm saying? Like, who do I know that reads Fortune?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like, I'm dealing with construction workers all day. Like, I don't know anybody in this town. Dateline? Dateline, every Joe watches that. Right, and this is, keep in mind, this is back in 2000, late 2006. Yeah. Yeah, people watch it on TV.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You know what's funny? Do you have Apple? Apple apps? Yeah, the TV, whatever, Apple, what are they? No, I don't like streaming that much. They have a whole series called something for all of mankind. And it's funny because it's about the space program.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And so it's following it like almost identical, only the Russians land on the moon first. So everything, like all the characters are the same and everything's off slightly. So it's like, what if, it's like a what if scenario. What if the Russians had landed first? What would we have done? So then now we're like, we're going to the moon. And so we do go to the moon.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You know, we almost crash, but they do make it. And so then they're planning on doing a... Then they find out the Russians are going to put a base on the moon. So now we want a base. Nixon wants a base on the moon. And then you find out then the Russians land another... you know, another mission on the moon, only it's a woman. So now we've got a woman who has to be an astronaut.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like, it's like we're struggling to keep up. But what happens is it's what if we had just continually dumped money into the exploration of space? So that's really, so I know that ultimately it ends up like we go to Mars, like there's all of these things. So now it's spinning off into an area where you're like, I don't know what's going to happen now.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Cause initially I'm watching, I'm like, oh, this is the one where the, you know, this happens and this, you know what I'm saying? There's little things that you're like, oh, but then, but now it's at the point where it's like, I have no idea what's happening. Like Von Brom, they just kicked Von Brom out of NASA. You know, they they get them in front of Congress and they they pull up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You find out that he was actually a member of the Nazi of the SS. I mean, you know, he's a Nazi part party member, but they actually in Congress they come up with. Oh, yeah. And Chappaquiddy. What's his name? Yeah. Kennedy. Because of the moon landing. For some reason, he doesn't go to- Chappaquiddick. Right. So the woman never dies. So now you know he's going to run for president.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen. I think he can be Biden. I think he can be Biden. I think anybody, I think any warm body could be Biden. Yes, I agree with that. Can they beat Trump?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Unfortunately, having multiple felonies, that really only just kind of, he just went up in my books. If he wins, can he pardon himself? No. Somebody was saying that the other day.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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DeSantis, his whole campaign's falling apart. He's not going to. Listen, when I found out DeSantis was running, I was like, what are you doing? You can't. It's not the time. You're still young.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And Biden's just across the board, his ratings, you know, the whole administration's ratings are just in the tank. Like it's I don't know. But the worst part is to Trump is very likely to, you know, you know, self sabotage himself.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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How funny would that be? This is the whole system is just falling apart. It's just almost comical at this point.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It's just silliness. He's just being silly. We are going to leave all of, well, I think there's one description for all of Ignacio's books in the description. Also, if you want to donate $10 a month to Patreon to help support the channel, that would be much appreciated. Leave me a comment in the comment section. Thank you very much, and I really do appreciate you guys watching.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Hey, this is Matt Cox and I'm here with Michael Martine Hudson. And I wrote a story about Mike called Devils of Contraband and which he never really liked the title of. But it's about basically he's essentially a part of the genre that is what's known as cocaine cowboys. He was active in. Well, he was. He was a part of the Dirty Dozen.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And then he ends up moving into smuggling operations in Miami back in the 70s, 80s, 90s. And we'll get into that. And so it's going to be a really interesting story. So check it out. You know, I want to like I typically start most stories. I obviously start, you know, with something interesting. And then I jump back to the origins of like where the person was raised, that sort of thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So and you were raised in Arizona, but your mom. But the way it happened was your mom was basically. just a maniac teenager, right? She got married young, had two boys, you and your brother, and she ended up getting caught smuggling marijuana from Mexico into the United States. Correct. Right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And that's kind of like, to me, that's where the story kind of begins because it immediately starts off with smuggling. It ends with smuggling. It starts with your mom. It ends with your mom.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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um because you know out of all the cocaine cowboy stories that are out there there's just not many there's almost no stories where there's basically a woman is running the entire operation and that's your mom but so can we can we start with you know like you and your brother were born in arizona and prescott arizona right uh 1954 uh i was born in 54 my kid brother uh
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right. And what happened with your dad? Was he around?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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$80,000.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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By this time, it's what? The 60s?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, I mean, at this point, your mom, when she went to Miami, but like, that's where all the drugs were coming in at this point. There's no DEA. At that point, there was no DEA.
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All right, so your mom shows up. She takes you back to Miami, right? And you go back to Miami and, I mean, what happened? She put you back in high school. She said you guys are going to be accountants and lawyers.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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What were you in the, what'd you go to the state for?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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How much time did you do?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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My question is that... you know you're you're in arizona and um your mom brings in the first load and she arranges it with some guys from atlanta right how does that first transaction go well um her friend had set up the uh
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They're already cooperating.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, I mean, so writing Prospect for the Dirty Dozen isn't exactly a W2 job. What were you doing for a living?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Tell me the story about, I mean, I know there's a bunch of stories, but tell me the story about stealing the guy's Harley twice.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I think there's a video of the bar fight, isn't there? Is that the one there's like a massive biker fight?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And, uh, Yeah, your cousin, didn't you say your cousin said it only cost a few thousand dollars and it just kept every time you walked in.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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We lived together, so... So, what was happening with your mom? Like, at this point, your mom was actually was sending up... was shipping up marijuana, right? For these guys to sell.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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At this point, by the time you meet your wife, had you already gone to federal prison? Because you already went to state. We talked about state.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, let's jump back to, so you meet, what's your name? Chris. Chris. You meet Chris. Who was engaged to someone else.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So Chris, back to Chris. So you meet Chris. You get married.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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She was afraid he was going to kill himself, right? Like he was going to end up overdose.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So she basically wanted you and your brother to captain the boats to go pick up marijuana.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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has said some derogatory things about more phonies and the phone was tapped on the phone yes so on the phone she says she's she's mouth she's they had a uh well it was a bail bondsman right the bail bondsman came and said that marphonious wants detectives oh okay they want they gave they gave the tape they wanted 10 initially they wanted 10 000 and then uh
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like she knew the phone was tapped and she still called up Angie.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right, and she's on the phone.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's a lot of money now.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I was going to say, they've got organizations all over the place and they're a major problem in some countries.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Um, so I was at this point. So when is that? Well, that's 75, but we were up to about 79. When did Doug get grabbed? Cause he got grabbed twice.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Fox Hill was like an infamous prison, right? In the Bahamas.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
So sit there. So they put a cigarette boat. The Columbus put a cigarette boat in the marina and the prison guards let him out. Like they let him escape. They leave a door open.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
All right. So, you know. So then, so basically, so what happens with you? You come back to Miami. What happened with Chris?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
I think that's the one I'm thinking of because there was video cameras, the angles and everything.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
I've heard that name. Yeah. I think for a while he was head of the outlaws in Florida.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Was your mom still moving just marijuana, or had she switched to coke?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
And this was running a load for your mom.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Right. So, you know. But you think it was a hurricane?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
So I'm sorry for me. The references are I can see the boat going up, you know, and I as soon as you said Davy Jones, I immediately see Fires of the Caribbean with Davy Jones where he's got the squid.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
So you started stealing the tractors and stuff like that. How did you get caught for that?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Yeah, I was going to say, big Jim Nolan was locked up for, I don't know what, he got 30 years or something. He was locked up in... in the medium with me. Right. He was huge. He was like, he was an old, he was old too. He was probably in his 60s. I imagine they call him Big Jim for a reason, right? Yeah, he was like six foot six. He was, he was huge.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Then how did you go to prison for the heavy equipment?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Just tall, just big. Yeah, it was just a big, tall guy. He was just massive. Nicest guy. I talked to him a few times. Nice guy. It was like he'd beaten multiple murder cases in the state of Florida. Eventually, the feds got him on like a right. It was racketeering. Was it racketeering or was it just continuing criminal enterprise? I forget, but it was a huge case.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Arrested Jan.6 Cop Gets Pardoned by Trump
can you believe they're doing this?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Arrested Jan.6 Cop Gets Pardoned by Trump
What happened to bring us your poor, bring us your... These things like... We were an isolationist country at that point.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Arrested Jan.6 Cop Gets Pardoned by Trump
Yeah. Or something like that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Arrested Jan.6 Cop Gets Pardoned by Trump
Cause most people are walking around like this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Arrested Jan.6 Cop Gets Pardoned by Trump
I don't even remember. What is the name of the building? What am I thinking? It's the Capitol, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Arrested Jan.6 Cop Gets Pardoned by Trump
No, this is, are you serious? How old is this movie?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Arrested Jan.6 Cop Gets Pardoned by Trump
I'd still like to have a copy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
So, Oh, okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Except for that one.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
with the pill on her.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Oh, it was like, yes, yes, yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
No, but go ahead.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Right. So those are things you can prove.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Yes, absolutely.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
You're right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
At seven years, two months, but go ahead.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Yeah, that's, yeah, that's her coming. And you're kind of like, um, what?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
I can get a discount on the cards.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Oh, okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Absolutely.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Right. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
That's so unlike you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
People are stupid.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Colby's got some fraud. No, he doesn't.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Colby's probably never got a traffic.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
All right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
They converted you that quick?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Dollar General.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
I want to catch this bus.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
You've served your time.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Like an orderly.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
I'll be in your cell later tonight.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
I slipped a butcher knife out of the fucking kitchen.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
What'd you hear?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Actually, I thought it was because he cut the chick's head off.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
I don't typically commit crimes, but when I do, it's bank fraud. Stay greedy, my friends.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Can you believe that?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
But you're still here.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
You can't have that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Anyway, so who else should we meet? What else happened?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Yeah, please, come on. You know I'm gonna put money on your book. Yeah, of course. You promise? Yes, put it down.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
So who was the other guy?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Wait, black guy?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
How did he know that?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Yes. Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
For a murder.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
He was at the medium.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Straighten that out. Got that right, baby.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
No, you're joking, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
The other guy's yelling, straighten your shoes up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Wow. That's a set of characters.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
That's a TV show.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Oh, they told on everybody.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
They'd close.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
All right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
I hate to ask it, but why? Do you ever ask him like, bro, what are you doing?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Me too. But I've never done that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Oh, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
What did Roderick do? How many of these lunatics are on this list?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Oh, yeah. No, let's go to Roderick.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Roderick is a... How do you explain it?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Like, hey, how you doing? What's up, man? What you need, man? I got you. I got you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
OK, right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
You're not, but okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Yeah, okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Okay, low-level street hustler.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
If I can do his voice, like, listen, listen, listen, Zach, Zach, my man, Zach, what's up, baby? Oh, my God. What's up?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Yeah, that's my boy. I'm telling you, we all gonna come up, though, man. You know what I'm saying?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
All right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
So you follow the 2255 against her, right? Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
What was he doing in jail?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
We had an agreement.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
No scruples.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Yeah, there you go.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Good times.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Good times. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
You guys are too good to me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
How long did you do this?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Until?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
That's how you introduce, hi, I have no money, I have no friends.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Right. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Yeah. I have some insight on her.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
I mean, why didn't he get a job? I don't know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Oh, so you never asked him? He just didn't want to get a job. Couldn't get a job?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
I'm all filled up with my pathetic friends. No, I'm talking about someone else.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
You know what?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
I'm actually going to chase him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
That man needs to be chased.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
He'd be funny.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Well, a little blunt.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
I was going to say, I used to wake up at 5 and everybody would go, why do you wake up at 5?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
And now I'm on that video. And now they do.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
I mean, if we can keep him calm. He's always. Oh, yeah, that's right. Like, how funny would that be? He's sitting there with a broken nose, bleeding, blood, missing a tooth.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
What, like the shot caller?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
This is nice.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
All right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Most Wanted: The Hunt for Elusive Underground Outlaws
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Right? See?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
I see him mowing every Saturday. He mows his yard. That's it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
They were enabling you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Just because they're mixing your shit up in a lab and these guys are pulling off a plant doesn't make them make much of a difference.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
I was going to say, what are you doing? Like, what does it matter? I mean, the thwarted mind of addiction. You know, in your current state, you're useless to them. You know what I'm saying? You're a burden. More than anything. Yeah. And so. That's just selfishness.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Or I messed up. Stole a Movado watch from a house? Yeah. Okay. But you said my house. It sounded like my house.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Not my house. I meant you said... Okay, go ahead.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Yeah, I don't have it in my possession. I don't have it in the vehicle. I don't have it. It's over the – you found it over the fucking hill.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Why are you going back to California? Like, I don't know. Is it because you want to get out of the environment that you're in?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
It doesn't sound funny to me, but go ahead.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Just below your pecs?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Yeah, I was going to say that's – and, you know, it's so funny. I always watch this, and I'm sure you know this. It kills me when you watch these movies and they're like, we've got to get the bullet out. I'm like, they usually leave the bullets in.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Like if there's no reason for us to go digging around, the bullet's not bothering you as long as it's not close to your spine or something and you don't have like rejection or anything. Like if it's not causing problems, we really just need to kind of stitch up the organs and you and make sure there's no internal bleeding, but the bullet's probably fine where it is.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
There's different profiles. There's credit profiles.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
It's like a gambler who wins $50,000 and then still sits there for two more hours and loses all of it. You were up 50 grand. You should have walked away.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
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Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
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Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The pyramid, right? Yeah. And so, you know, you're not able to break level one. Yeah. Barely.
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Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
I don't have the title, nothing. They're going to be like, yeah, kick rocks.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
They're not buying this. They don't buy this, bro. Tell me you don't get out of this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
You were still 16 when you had that call? Yeah. Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
So how much did you get then? You should have got four.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
They're going to realize that, and they're going to change their mind. A thousand percent. The judge is going to go home and sleep on this tonight, and he's going to be like, you know what? That one out of the 45 cases I saw today— Jimmy didn't have that coming.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
No, I was just thinking about this. A buddy of mine, I went to Vegas recently. We were talking about chess. And I was like, how... I think I've mentioned this before. I don't know if you've ever heard me say this, but like you understand that chess is a game of the aristocracy, of kings. It's played with thought and it's in dignity and quiet.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
And if you go to prison and watch the way these guys, they've turned it into just street level guttural. It's horrific the way they play it. You know, like... You know what I'm saying? It's played by, you know, you move the pieces and it's subtle and it takes time. There's lots of thought. And you watch these guys in prison play it and it's like, I got your fucking bitch, bro. Got your bitch.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
And they're like, yeah, I'm in your fucking house. What you gonna do now, motherfucker? I'm in your house. I mean, you're like, I mean, it's horrible.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Really?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
You've turned this... They have turned this into... It's just... I don't want to say. It's just... It's...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
it's just guttural that's what you know i'm saying you i mean i understand what you're like you obviously played with somebody else but i would and this was every place i've been you'd what you'd see these guys like yeah oh that's right what you go oh that's i got your fucking bitch and the terms they come up with for the names of the players like it's not like your bishop and you they've got different names for the piece i got your house you have my castle yeah and you might that's my queen
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
You know what I'm saying? I mean, it's just, oh.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
I guess I could see some older guys that have been playing forever. I could see that happening. I'm thinking about the 25-year-olds. There were guys in Coleman where they literally had 30 chess books I mean, they've been locked up 25 years, worked their way down from the pen, never get now. You made yourself to the low, made it to the low. You're probably never getting out, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
You probably got, you're 65 years old. You got another 20 years, you know, you're done. But they could play with five different guys at one time. They walked around with cards. They had cards with different moves on it, things that they were memorizing things. They knew the names of all the different pieces.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Yeah. Talk to the toilet. From B7 to B whatever or C this or movie.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
So it's like, this is the guy that shot me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Yeah. Listen, those are great series. I always say that. I've read the writing true crime for dummies. I've read all the different – Screenplay writing for dummies. Really? Yeah. And they also have the Idiot's Guide. The Idiot's Guide to Writing True Crime or Idiot's Guide to Writing Memoirs.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
What? YouTube. YouTube. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's what you get anymore. Anybody who ever said, like, yeah, bro, I couldn't figure it out. Bro, there's 150 videos on whatever you want to know on YouTube right now.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
I would, was it like a bit where he'd go, you know,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Or was it Waze? I love it when people have those conversations. Like, so do I make a left at the seven? Bro, you've got the most powerful device ever created in your pocket. Why are you wasting my time with this conversation?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Yeah, I was going to say it's written for people with fifth grade education.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
And it's very formulaic. It's the same thing that they tend to happen over and over again.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Oh, yeah, yeah. Alex Cross. Alex Cross. You're right. Sorry. I read a lot of John Grisham. I love John Grisham.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Yeah, they make it sound like being a lawyer is exciting. It's like reading kind of like the Alex Cross thing. They make it sound exciting when really being a cop is not exciting. You know what I'm saying?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Yeah, yeah. Same thing with being a lawyer. I mean, boy, this is not exciting. Those courtroom moments, those aha moments are – and rare and almost never happen. And most lawyers have a horrible, it's a horrible job.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
And most of them are in debt.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
They don't make a lot of money. Listen, if you said, Matt, you can be An electrician or you could be a lawyer. I'd be like, oh, I'll take electrician. Electricians are making $150,000 a year. The average lawyer is making like $160,000 and $180,000. He's probably got $500,000 in student loan debt to get to that point.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
We had that little radio, the AM FM radio that was clear. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
I was in federal prison. There was no TVs. Oh, really? No. This is in L.A. Like, this is, like, where I— Listen, I know there were places where you could have—they could play video games. Oh, Arizona? Unbelievable.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
I'm in prison thinking, that's—they need to take those away. Like— That is not prison.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
You got to take 10, what was probably 10 or 15 hours of screen time, and I got to jam it into two hours.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Listen, I tell you, I read... a book was, I think it was Nelson DeMille. It was called up country.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
And I remember, and it was probably 400 pages, maybe, maybe four 50 or 500 actually was a really thick. Now I think about that thing was thick, but listen, I'd never been never read or seen anything. It was probably, that was probably the first book where it literally, I was so into the book that, And the woman character in the book, which is CIA, but she's like not admitting she's CIA, I think.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
And she's constantly – he's catching her in these subtle lies and stuff. And there would be times I would be reading and I'd be like, oh, oh. I'd have to – so upset. I'd close the book and I'd have to walk around my cell like – like, you know, it's like – it'd be like you finding out your girlfriend. Oh, bro. blatantly lied to you. Like you're like, you're so, but you're so angry.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
I can't even yell at her. She's a fictional character in a book, but I'm walking around in circles and then I'd be like, Like I'm under enough control. I can continue to read. I'd get down. I'd read a little bit more. And, you know, 20 minutes ago, you'd be like, oh, oh, oh, hell no. She did. What? If I was this dude, I can't believe he's still with her.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
I can't believe he hasn't left her in the middle of the fucking jungle. Hold this fucking. Oh, I'm just pissed at him. I'm pissed at him. And then towards the end of the book, it got to be the last 50 pages or 30 or 40 pages. I started feeling sad because I knew it would be over soon. That's how good the book was. I was like, this is going to be done soon.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
What am I going to do when this book is done? I will never get this much entertainment and enjoyment out of another thing the rest of my life. That's how great it was.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
I wanted to. Listen, I had a buddy named Harold Munns. I remember he had gotten the next book in the Game of Thrones series. Because it's not called Game of Thrones. It's called something else. No, but whatever. It's funny because... He would tell you what it was, but he would say Game of Thrones because they made it into a series. But we don't have the series. He's reading the book.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
And he had the book. And I remember he's walking by me. And I was like, hey, bro, what's up? He's like, I can't talk to you, bro. He's like, I just got the whatever from the Game of Thrones. And he'd walk off like, I'm going to read it. We can't discuss this. I need to. And he'd go and lay down and just lay in bed.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
And, you know, you were like, that's how these guys, they get really – and you understand. You're like, no, I get it. Hey, listen, man.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Bro, you're talking about Pillars of the Earth. Pillars of the Earth. And the... I think the second one is like the grapes of habit or the heavens. I'm sure I got it wrong, but pillars. I never made it to pillars of the earth. I wish I would have, bro. It's, it's a, I want to see what the guy's name is. Something to build or listen. Cause I read the whole thing. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
You know, it's funny you saying that. Haven't really thought about that book since I was in, I was in Vegas. And I went into a coffee shop, got my coffee, was walking by a guy who was sitting there reading Pillars of the Earth. That's crazy. And I stopped, and I took a two-step backwards, and I go, that is an amazing book. It's getting good. It is getting very good.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
And this guy's like, it's funny, too, because he's probably in his 30s. Like, who the fuck reads?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
It follows this guy, or really a family... through the building of a cathedral. Because these cathedrals in Europe, they're not built in two years. They're not built in 20 years. They're built over the course of 80 to 100 years. And so there's a builder, he's starving to death,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
And his wife, I think, and I'm sure I got this wrong, but like he gets, does he get a woman pregnant and she has a baby and he knows it's his baby and the baby ends up getting, they end up giving the baby to the church and the baby's raised in the church. And he becomes like, it follows all these people that are interwoven throughout the society, 400 years.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
It's insane how, but you know, everybody in the whole system and who they're related to. And look, and they're not like, some of them are great characters. Some aren't. And horrific things happen to some of these characters. I mean, you know, like it's tears. You know, you're crying watching this. I've just read. I've been following this kid since he was a little kid.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
And he just got butchered or whatever happens. You know, it's horrific things that happen. But you're involved in this whole thing. And it takes forever. And it's an amazing book.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
She's pulling the strings. She kind of...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
And there's other times she's amazing. And then it's funny because it's one of those few shows that... You know, the ending is never good, but it was a fitting ending, you know? Oh, yeah. You know what's funny is at the moment, the way it ended, I felt like, you know, you're kind of like, ugh, I don't know. I don't want this to happen or that to happen, but it's kind of like...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
A character that you love and he's a horrible person and that it ends badly for him and you're like, oh, I didn't want it to end like that. But you kind of have to remind yourself, well, wait a minute now. He killed that kid. Yeah. And he did these horrible things and he's a horrible person.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Right. That's just the way – it's fitting. Unfortunate but fitting. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it was good.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
Yeah. You had to see that coming. Because you said he said it over and over again when he would get drunk. Yeah. You think he was just saying it to be an asshole? I did. Oh, really? Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
I can't let your fucking, your shit fuck me up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
How did that happen? First of all, how – You're giving the talk that you give when you go into a prison right now because you've got 45 minutes. Yeah. You don't have 45 minutes. We've got hours. Got you. So how did you find out that he wasn't your real dad? And how did you find your real dad? Like, did you go find him? No. Okay. You find out he was just the next door neighbor.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Hollywood Burglar Steals From The Rich & Fulfills His Purpose
I've seen him my whole life. He's mowing the yard.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
First Amendment Auditor Sues Police for Violating Rights
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
First Amendment Auditor Sues Police for Violating Rights
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
First Amendment Auditor Sues Police for Violating Rights
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
First Amendment Auditor Sues Police for Violating Rights
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
First Amendment Auditor Sues Police for Violating Rights
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
First Amendment Auditor Sues Police for Violating Rights
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
First Amendment Auditor Sues Police for Violating Rights
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
First Amendment Auditor Sues Police for Violating Rights
Who hired your buddy?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
First Amendment Auditor Sues Police for Violating Rights
Right. You know?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
First Amendment Auditor Sues Police for Violating Rights
Woosh.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
First Amendment Auditor Sues Police for Violating Rights
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
First Amendment Auditor Sues Police for Violating Rights
So pretty exciting stuff. This is an interesting club.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
First Amendment Auditor Sues Police for Violating Rights
You know?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
First Amendment Auditor Sues Police for Violating Rights
Vastly different than most.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
First Amendment Auditor Sues Police for Violating Rights
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
First Amendment Auditor Sues Police for Violating Rights
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
First Amendment Auditor Sues Police for Violating Rights
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
First Amendment Auditor Sues Police for Violating Rights
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
First Amendment Auditor Sues Police for Violating Rights
Right, right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How He Pulled Off a $17 Million Robbery | The Loomis Fargo Bank Heist
You're hipper than I am.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How He Pulled Off a $17 Million Robbery | The Loomis Fargo Bank Heist
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How He Pulled Off a $17 Million Robbery | The Loomis Fargo Bank Heist
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How He Pulled Off a $17 Million Robbery | The Loomis Fargo Bank Heist
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How He Pulled Off a $17 Million Robbery | The Loomis Fargo Bank Heist
Mm-hmm.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How He Pulled Off a $17 Million Robbery | The Loomis Fargo Bank Heist
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How He Pulled Off a $17 Million Robbery | The Loomis Fargo Bank Heist
Of everything. Minimum.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
How He Pulled Off a $17 Million Robbery | The Loomis Fargo Bank Heist
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right. Yeah, I was going to say, it's funny. People now don't think, they think it was always like this. My mom would tell us that she had gone, they'd taken, gone to the doctor with my father. He was an alcoholic and he would binge drink. So he'd go on a two-week bender and then he'd stop drinking for a few months and then he'd start drinking again and then it happened again and again.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And they didn't understand what was happening. And so they went to the doctor and said, look, I don't, I have a, something's wrong. They're trying to explain it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
This isn't like the... And the doctor said, you're an alcoholic. My dad almost punched him. They got into a screaming match and he stormed out of there and he's like... You know, my mom was like, you have to understand that an alcoholic was like a homeless person.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Bums were alcoholic. He's like, your father had a good job. He made good money. He had... A family, yes. Family, people that worked... She's like, so we didn't understand that... No, no, normal people can be... Right. She said it took years after to where he eventually started... He got into AA. Eventually, you know, things happen where you start to realize like, oh, wow, I have a problem.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
But you're right. In the 70s, like... You just kind of put that under the rug. You don't talk about it, you know?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right. Well, I mean, narcissists have their good points, you know, too. You know what I'm saying? That's the whole thing. Like they're confident and they make you feel great and they're super charming. They can be all of those things when things are going well.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
You know, as long as things stay going well for them.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Well, how quickly was it until things start going bad?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Well, how long? So he, I mean, you guys by, you know, you're living in a great house.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right. Yes. There's the yacht, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I remember the yacht.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I mean, was there... So did you understand, like, were there times where he was explaining to you what they're doing, you know, and how... you know, how illegal what they're doing is? Like, did you realize like, hey, this is absolute fraud? Like this is a pump and dump scheme. No, no, no.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Did they pay models back then?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Oh, okay. So that's different.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. They shift that to where he's running the whole time. It's just the very end when Danny comes in, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, yeah. No. No, I could see that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I don't think, you know, look, it's, I feel like it's the kind of like that disparity between being like a comedian where it's like the guys that are working a full-time day job and they're getting paid like 50 or a hundred bucks to do standup. And then it's that to bam, you're selling out stadiums and you're making $200,000, you know, Each performance, it's like there's no in between.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah. Oh, I've had that conversation. When I was committing all kinds of fraud, my ex-wife would be like, yeah, I don't know. I'd be like, clearly what I'm doing is working.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
You know, so, you know, that whole thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, like your opinion is irrelevant in the fact that we're living in a nice car. You know, you don't complain.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right. You're not complaining when you got the nice house. You're not complaining about vacations. You're not complaining about the vehicle you're driving. The real estate. Yeah. Right. Yeah, I know how to do it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, I've been there, definitely. Not at that level, but I've done the whole, at the moment somebody starts to question.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, I just shut them down. I just shut them down. Or I guess sometimes it would be like, oh, no, no, no, it's not like that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, yeah. The FBI doesn't go for any of that, by the way. You could do that with your relatives and your family. You could do that with them, but no. No. So, I mean, I'm wondering at what point do you – at some point, do you realize there are investigations coming? I mean, you know he got fined.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, that was nothing. And compared in the grand scheme.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And then so he's running it with – I mean, you have to realize that's not –
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
All right. Yeah. I was going to say that. And then you've got, what is it in the movie? DiCaprio's playing him. He's like six one or something or six.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And Belfort's what? Like five, five. He's like my height, right? Five, five, five, six.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, I couldn't. I, you know, and it's so funny, too, because there are little tiny things where there's something in the movie where he says the guy that calls him the FBI agent. I guess when he goes to meet him on the on the boat, he calls him Little Man. And of course, you know, like Leonardo DiCaprio is not a little guy. But when he said Little Man, I thought, oh.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Oh, I would be – I'd be like, huh, huh. I could see me losing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Oh, my God. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Don't you dare. I'll get out my lifts right now. So, I mean, when do you realize like – do you realize that things are going bad? Is it just at the end or you start seeing it going bad?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
What does he say about that? Nothing. I mean, did you ask him?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Are you looking for like an, I mean, you know, no offense, but you know, if you should be looking for it to me. I'd be looking for an exit strategy at that point. I'd be thinking, I need to start putting money away.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
There doesn't seem like there's a middle class for models.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, well, to me, I'd be definitely thinking about it then.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
He was going to say he's also got tons of guys that are coming around all the time. Everybody's.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Nice, that's a lot of money now.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Does he ever, I mean, did he ever agree to go to like a rehab or?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
In Florida.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Oh yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
No, I, that makes sense. I'm wondering, why didn't you show up there? Like, would the cops not go with you? If you said, Hey, I'm going home. I don't know. This could be violent. This could be a bad situation. Why didn't they come with you? Or you just wanted to let them know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah. You got lucky that worked out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
So, I mean, at that point, he does go. He comes back.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
He's sober for a while or good?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Okay, does he, the scene in the movie where you guys are loading yourselves up with cash and going to Switzerland, does that occur?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Oh, okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, I was going to say, I mean, I got to rest up money laundering too. But I mean, money laundering charge can be- Can mean anything.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
It can be like there's illegal money in the bank and I go and ask for 500 bucks. They go, money laundering. That was illegal money that went there. So it could be anything. But yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, he's taking cash. I don't even know how they could get that much cash. But this was- This was a long time ago.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Oh, okay. I'm sorry. So, well, how did that go? First, I have to mention, I'll bet you Colby doesn't know what Studio 54 is.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, this was way different.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
You could ask for cash. They give it to you. Now they want to argue with you. You say, hey, can I get $10,000? They're like, oh, I don't know about that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
So what happens with the...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
That's a big ask.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Did the plane really blow up?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
That's, yeah, that's... It's crazy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
All right. Uh, well, so what happens once, once he gets arrested, he gets out on bond, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Do you realize, like at that moment, does it seem that insane that what's happening?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
He's on his best behavior.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
For a narcissistic person that is not, that's the best bad. It's all bad. That's a bad feeling.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Do you know that when I got arrested and they threw me in jail, I swear there was, there were a few moments when I genuinely thought to myself that they can't do this. Really?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I genuinely.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Oh, absolutely.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Like I basically, I need to, I need to talk to somebody. No. It didn't take long, right? I kind of sat down. Then it set in. Yeah. I started thinking, oh man, you need to get a grip on yourself.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Like they can do this. They're doing it. You're done. It's over. But that's how mentally deranged I was. Keep in mind too, when the FBI came for me, I went on the run for three years.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Oh no, you can't arrest me. No, I'm leaving. Like the... And looking back on that moment of that delusion, I look at it and I think, what were you thinking?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I would say I was driving cars I shouldn't have been driving, living in places I shouldn't have been living, dating women I certainly shouldn't have been dating. And I was surrounded by people that idolized me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Because I'm making the money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I mean, like there are movies about studios.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, plus you don't, you know, I mean, I'm sure you did not have this experience, but they're not looking out for you. No. Like if they're talking to you for four hours, they either want you to be... Yeah. They want two things. They want you to be either a witness or a defendant. Right. Like what they don't want to hear is... I didn't know anything. No, that's not true.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Well, you're expendable. You know what I'm saying?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Everybody's expendable.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I can tell you that for a fact. Like I don't have anybody that wasn't expendable in my life.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Went there, all of them. And whenever, by the way, whenever they got to tell their story, they always throw it in there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Which is, let's face it, to go on the run for, let's bring it back to me. But, I mean, this tells you the level of delusion is that to be totally okay with leaving everybody you know behind and going on the run, like— wow, you – most people can't do it. Most people – I've seen guys go to prison and show up to go to prison for 10 years.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Like they're – you've got a 10-year sentence, show up here in three months. And to me, it's always like, you showed up? You got here this morning. You turned yourself in. You were free. You turned yourself in to do 10 years. And they're like, well, yeah. I'm like, why wouldn't you run? And they're like, well, I've been – I got a kid. I got a wife. I got – My parents.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And I'm thinking to me, those are expendable. Like I can get new, I can get a new wife. I can, you know, I'm saying I can get new kids.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I've actually said that before. I've actually said like your opinion of me means about as much as that stick of furniture right there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
That's, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Because it's iconic.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
So, I mean, did you ever, did you, I mean, I'm pretty sure you have kids together. You've talked to him since then, obviously.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Did you ever go see him once he was incarcerated?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
No? No visits to the prison? No. No?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Just wasted on Colby. And I'll tell him, then he'll say, well, yeah, I'll watch it tonight. And he doesn't. It's a lie. So you went to the party in the Hamptons.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
You didn't sneak any wine in?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Oh, I didn't know that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
That's kind of the Gordon Gekko thing. Colby doesn't know anything about that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Are you getting... So, I mean, is he still seeing the kids? You're still having to deal with them?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Well, I mean, you... You were doing the modeling at this point.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, I was going to say. Yeah. I hate to say this. I was going to say you're aged out of the modeling career at that point, right? So you go back to school?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
What's a maternity company?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Oh, okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Sebastian, I'm not positive about the... So you're not supposed to do that with an ankle bracelet on?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Oh, okay. Yeah. That was the right call, right? Definitely. I mean, during that time, when did you start school? Because you were not a therapist at that point.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
How did that come about?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
So was it, I mean, because I watched the movie again last night. Okay. Was it anything like that?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I had a friend who was like 30 and I was telling him he should go to college. And he said, he goes, he's like, yeah, bro, I'll be like 34, 35 by the time I graduate. I was like, well, how long, how old will you be if you don't start?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
You know, and he just, he's not a bright guy, by the way. He's kind of, what do you mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
You're going to be 35, 34 at some point.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
When Jordan comes out of prison- Mm-hmm. Does that, so one, I guess, I mean, I know the story, I guess the story is he goes into prison and he meets one of the guys from Cheech and Chong.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Did you know this? He meets one of the guys from Cheech and Chong and he's like, you should, you should write a book.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
So he convinces him to write a book, which he says he kind of started, I guess. And then he gets out and then he finishes it or rewrites it, whatever the case may be. Yes. What I'm wondering is because he did not get a lot of time.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah. I mean, I'm sure for him it felt like an eternity. But for me, that's not even worth unpacking. Right. So, you know, but I'm wondering... Because, listen, I was still a complete jerk-off. I mean, I'm still kind of a jerk-off. But this is a mild. But it took years, a few years. I'm wondering, when he got out, did you see a change in him at all? Oh, that's great then.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
A good change?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, because that's good. Yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Oh, OK. Yeah. And did it did anything like were there negotiations where they came to you and said, like, what about the name thing?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
But it took a while for it to become... It didn't happen right away.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
So you had to be thinking to yourself, okay, it's not going to happen.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Do me the courtesy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I was going to say, have you looked back and thought, eh, that didn't change anything.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And I don't think your character, your character didn't look bad anyway.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right. Yeah, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Why?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
No, no, you probably, it was the right call. You can't look back on it. Yeah, it was the right call. I'm sure for that, at that moment, it was definitely the right call.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, that's it. There's an upside.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Oh, okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right. How long? So when did you decide? When did you decide to? Is this your first book?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Okay. Why? Why so long? Why did you wait so long?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And what, they were all on... On lewds. Lewds.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I know writing a book, my book about me was the hardest thing because, you know, I don't, people don't tend to see themselves the way they act. Other people see them the way they actually are. Correct. And so that, it took multiple rewrites before I kind of figured out, you know, I'm kind of a scumbag. And, you know, you have to really kind of, you know, it's like... Wrestle with that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Well, you know, if 50 people say you're an asshole, you're probably an asshole. You know what I mean? Yeah. The consensus is correct. You know, you start interviewing people that knew you, looking over documents, looking over things that people said about you. You start thinking, wow, you know, like I'm not really a great guy here. Like all these cool things I thought I did.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
So that's why that took so long. But I've written a bunch of books since then. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, that was a big thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And keep in mind, almost all the books I wrote, I had a hundred, I don't have, I'm in prison with all the time in the world.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
The books that I've written outside of prison, you're right. It takes forever.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
In the movie.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
You just started formulating an outline and started putting together pieces?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
So that takes forever. Your kids are grown by this point.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
At least the kids are out of there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
So that's a little bit of time. So you've got a thriving practice. This guy's got to take up some time, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I can tell he's not completely functional on his own. That's going to take some work. Somebody has to manage, you know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, yes. We have to give attention to the people we love.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And you have to write. How long did it take?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
all these, the, the, I was the casting couch type of, uh, things that you would think don't really go on anymore, but they, but they do go on and then you've got, um, you know, and it's the same thing, even with like the Diddy stuff, you know what I'm saying? These guys are, are,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
surrounded by yes men and paying everybody to be yes men and you become, you just start thinking that you're infallible and there's nothing you can't fix. And it's funny because when I wrote my book, my dad was narcissistic, obviously, the apple. But I remember when I was a little kid, I tell this story and
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
You know, he obviously, he had a bunch of agents that worked for State Farm Insurance, was a manager, made a bunch of money, right? This is back when if you worked for an insurance company, you made money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
You weren't struggling.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And he was a manager and probably made $250,000 to $350,000 a year. And this is 30, 40 something years. Yes, that's a lot of money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
That's a ton of money. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
So, and everybody, you know, if he got drunk, my mother was a huge enabler. You know, she's telling the neighbors he's sick. She's calling in for work. He doesn't feel good. He's, oh, we're not sure. I mean, just doing everything to kind of... To keep him afloat.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And, but, you know, it always worked out and... And he was always managed to stay on top. And even when the State Farm would come in and his boss would realize this guy's drunk, like showed up at a meeting with 1,000 people and goes up on stage drunk and gives a speech.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
They take him and they put him in rehab. This is like they don't really do this anymore. You're basically fired.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
First time they put him in rehab for 30 days. Next time was 60. Then they gave him a 90-day program. This is over the course of 10 or 15 years.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
He made him a lot of money, right? So he's a good manager. He's always in the top one, two percent. So I remember being in a car one time and driving in the BMW. And I'm wearing a little Izod shirt. I told this story the other day. I'm wearing the little Izod shirt. And my dad's dressed up. We're going to the movies because that was our father-son time.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And honestly, typically, he would drop me off with like 20 bucks and say, I'll be back.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And he'd come back like six hours later and pick me up. And then so we're in the car. And I remember looking over at the car next to us. And it was like an old beat-up Chevy Nova. Rusted out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Kids are in the back. Dirty, bunch of dirty little kids in the back. Their faces pushed up against the back window. You know, just horrific. And I'm wearing a brand new BMW. My dad's in a, you know, shirt and tie and I'm a little eyes on. I'm like, whatever, nine years old or 10, whatever. Forget how old I was.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
But I remember looking at them and feeling kind of ashamed, you know, like I was embarrassed because they were staring and I knew they were poor. And I remember looking at my dad and he was smoking a cigarette. Oh, right, in the car. With the windows up. Right, yeah. They had the sunroof where it had a little crack in it, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
So that's a lesson. Like, and I remember he blew, he used to do this all the time. If I look at, he'd blow a smoke ring at my face. Can you imagine that?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
No, I think that's abuse. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
It just would go right around me. Cause if you, you saw it, you know, to a kid that's cool, you know? And I looked at him, he blew a cigarette and he looked over there at the, he looked at the kids and he looked back at me and he goes, huh? He goes, I wonder what the poor are doing today today. And I went, I just remember thinking, I can't believe he just said that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
But you know what I thought? I remember, too, in that moment thinking to myself that no matter what you have to do in life, it is always better to be driving the BMW than it is now.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, for me, I've always just thought that like you can behave however you – if you make enough money, you can behave however you want. Like I remember thinking that growing up. I need to grow up. I need to make a lot of money. That was a big thing. And my friends didn't – they weren't thinking that. The whole time I was growing up, I was thinking I need to figure out how to make a lot of money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
It was reasonable. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah. No, I can see that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Oh, I would have never changed.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
It's my buddy Pete. It's the Pete saying of the, he says, you know, he's like, you can't go to prison and continue to behave in the same manner that got you to prison and then leave prison and not expect to come back. Right. You know, you have a finite, you have an amount of time that you need to make a fundamental change in your behavior or you might as well expect to come back here.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
So don't leave and think,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
It's everybody else's fault. It's not my fault. It's your fault. Okay, well, you're going back to prison.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
You can have a functional narcissist. I just, to me, and I always say this, even to this day, Colby to this day, well, he probably has already had this conversation with his wife. But I'm always saying, look, I feel horrible for anybody that has a personal relationship with me because it's totally one-sided.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Even to this day, when I'm talking to somebody, I'm really just waiting for an opportunity to talk about myself. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah. No shit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
But you know what I'm saying? Even though I know it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Even though I know it. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And it's a horrible situation to be in when you're sitting there thinking to yourself – and the few people I find really find interesting where I'll just – You ever look in the comments section and people are like, I love Matt because he lets the guests talk. But that's because he's talking about a bank robbery or credit card fraud or something that I find fascinating.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
So I say nothing. I'm like this the whole time. I'm like, oh, I don't understand. How'd you do such and such?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Was it, uh, we, we've watched it and, um, There was some scene in the movie where they're smoking rock. And it's funny. My wife said she's like, this is the difference between poor people and rich people. She's like, rich people, when they do it, she's like, it doesn't look nearly as trashy. You know what I'm saying?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And then I just shut up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
But that's because I find that the only people that I truly find interesting are criminals. That's horrible. Other than that, it's a challenge. Well, do you feel shame? Do I? Do I? Very seldomly.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Almost never, really.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Like it's, it's the guys, there's lots of guys in prison that are there for some kind of scam and they're all kind of con men is what I kind of say. Yeah. Like, it's like, oh, he's, no, he's here for fraud. He's a, he's a, he's a con man, you know? Most of those guys in prison, Or spend their time in prison figuring out how, one, of course, to get out. So how am I going to get out?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And how am I going to reinvent myself so that nobody knows I was in prison? Like, am I going to change my name? Can I do a website? Can I do this? How can I reinvent myself? Basically, to me, they're planning on – they're really just planning their next indictment. And I was the only person that thought – you know, I'm not going to do that. I'm going to lean into it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I'm going to be extremely honest.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Because, but then again, I also wrote a book. So I realized during the course of writing that book, like what an asshole I was.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And I thought, you know what you're going to do? You're just going to be honest from the rest of your life. And if you have to sleep in somebody's spare room and take the bus, then that's just what you're going to do.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
You know?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
But
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, but that doesn't change. That still doesn't change the I feel bad for people that have relationships with me. It doesn't change. It changes some of it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
But not enough that I don't consider myself still narcissistic.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Which is tough, especially when you know it and you try and make those changes and it's like you're fighting with yourself.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Does that make sense?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah. So is it get out of that situation or put up walls?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
So that's why- But if you're in the situation, what do you do?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
She's like, these guys are all drug addicts, but they don't make it look as trashy because they have money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, you can take that book with you. I'm glad my wife left.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
When you're driving a Lamborghini.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
It's different than a pickup truck.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
You think some of that is just being just a regular masculine guy, kind of the confidence?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I feel like I have heard the term. So for you, it's like the tons of flowers.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, nobody's saying you need to pack a bag and start selling your jewelry.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Do you talk to Jordan now? Yeah. Oh, okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Well, you know, some people, they go their separate ways and they don't even talk anymore.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
You remarried? Yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
See, that's a problem for Belford. You know, you got remarried. You've been remarried for, was it 25 years? Yeah. 25 years.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Kind of feel like, yeah, I wasn't the problem in the relationship. But he hasn't gotten remarried.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
That's good.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I know he lives in...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah. I actually was supposed to do, this is when I was in California. I was, so five years ago I was doing podcasts and I was flying to Los Angeles to do like three or four podcasts. And his was one of them. I'd been trading emails with what I think was probably his girlfriend at the time. She said his assistant.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
But I think I heard something where he had said his assistant was his girlfriend or something like that. So I don't know. But we were trading emails and it was – Yes, definitely. When are you going to be here? We had a whole thing scheduled. And then I was like, hey, I need you to send me the address and, you know, where to go. And then because I was going to be there like three or four days.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Oh, I didn't know that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Done. Nothing. And I was like, hey, the next I was like, hey, I'm leaving today. Nothing. And then, you know, they are. Hey, what's going on?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Nothing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Nothing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
So I don't know what happened.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what happened. And then I actually did some paintings. Listen to this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I did. You know, I've got these paintings, right? So I actually did like four paintings, kind of a pop art style of paintings, put them in a box with a letter and sent them to his house and they signed for it. Oh. Because I wanted to have him on the program.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Never heard from him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Very irritating. Very irritating. Especially since, you know, the whole con man thing, you would think there would be some professional.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
So, um, So you, you, you go to, so this is, I had no idea.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yes. Yes, that's true.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
You know, and but yeah, that's that's that's my only interaction.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Oh, that's cool.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah. This is, Oh, you didn't, you didn't know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Well, she did get naked. She did get naked, yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yes, she did get naked.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah. And there's no, I don't think there's, from what I saw, there's no reason for her not to be naked. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yes, but she was nervous about it, right, Lisa? Yeah, of course.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Which part?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
kind of appropriate yeah if he stole i forget how much money i don't remember if that even is true i don't know if all that part is true yeah but that's what they that's what they do they take a little scene and they go yeah you know you better if this yes and it is better for the for the viewer for her walking in and this is what's happening and she's traumatized and yes yes the character is traumatized so it makes for a great scene it does
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
never went to the prison? You didn't want to do the whole prison thing? You didn't want to go see him in prison? No?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
My ex-wife came every... She'll tell you she came every month, by the way. That didn't happen. She did come every other month.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
She just liked seeing me in prison.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
He was. He was. Are you serious?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
She would say, she's like, I like you being in here. When I want to talk to you, I can come see you. You're always here. I know where you are.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
She's like, if I want you to call me, I send you an email. She's like, you make a call. She's like, it's nice. It's nice you being in here. I was just like, she had a good time.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
It was a little sadistic on her part.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah. She's like that in or out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah. No, that was, no, I did not visit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
No, you're good.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I remember Ross. Okay. I totally. Yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Are you... We talked a little bit about YouTube. Are you actually thinking... Well, it was more your husband we were talking about.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Are you actually thinking about doing something with your YouTube channel or doing something with that? Or are you basically... I don't know. I mean... You're at the end of your bandwidth.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
You know, I interviewed him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Oh yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, yeah. That's not.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, that's life in general. I couldn't have told you five years ago, this is where I would be. Certainly couldn't have told you 20 years ago, I would have been in prison. Pretty much everything in my, I couldn't have predicted any of the events that occurred.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
It's going to work out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
It's going to work out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
It always works out in the end. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah. You're doing the right... Typically, what I think is if you're doing the right thing, then God kind of lays out a plan for you, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
It's super funny.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
It's like you just... Things just seem to kind of just... It's like as I'm walking... Yeah. As I'm walking, he's putting stuff out for me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
That's good.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I'm sure there were many, many times when you didn't think it was going to.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Well, what do you think?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I liked it. That's what Colby said when you were, he's like, I think y'all have a good, it'd be a good, interesting.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Okay. Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
But I think that what's so funny is, like, now I'm, you know, and I'm I think, and I could be wrong, like I said, you don't see yourself how you are, how other people see you. But I think that now I'm extremely upfront and honest with people pretty much because I know that you know my past. Right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
So I know that it's in my best interest to be overly honest with you, you know, even if it faults me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Because I don't want you to be able to come back and say, like, people think, oh, he's just a very honest person. Trust me, there's a goal. The goal is at no point can you come back and say, oh, you didn't say that. Oh, no, I said exactly that. We're going to put out the interview. Here's what's going to happen. Don't say anything that you don't want. you know, out there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Don't come back in two months and say, like, you know, I'll go overboard. And they're just like, so I laid everything out. And that's in everything. Even when Colby and I Worked out our arrangement. Like it's not like, you know, here's how, here's our arrangement and all money is going to go to you. And because we don't want money coming to me, you see what I'm saying?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Like, not that I think I would do anything with it, but I want to be in a position and I don't want to be in a position where you can say that I promised you something.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
This is our agreement. You'll cut me a check. Good. Do you see what I'm saying? Like be very honest about every single thing. And that way it doesn't, because first of all, I can't be standing in front of a judge because if I was on a jury, I wouldn't believe me. You just read my past and I sit on the stand. I can't even defend myself.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Even I wouldn't believe me if somebody read my- So the truth is important. It's the best bet, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah. Well, it always is.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And then if I'm sitting there, if I told you things that I had done in the past, like my wife has, like if I'm like, oh yeah, one time I did this and I tell her what I did and she's just like- Like, I can't believe you would do that. Like that's, you see what I'm saying? Like, that's not you at all. I'm like, oh no, at the time I was absolutely manipulative. I would definitely do that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Why would you think that guy would do that? Why? Because we're paying him $10,000 a month. And if he doesn't do it, then I'll pull that. And he's probably living off of 150,000 a year. And I just yanked 100 to $120,000 out of his pocket. Of course, he's going to fake the appraisal. And she's like, you have no problem with that. Absolutely not.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Look, it's so ingrained in me that there are times I'll say something and then I'll stop myself and I'll think, damn, are you saying that? Cause it's true. Are you saying that because you know when this person looks into it, they're going to see this and they're going to come back. And I'm thinking like.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
You know, you're saying you're like, yeah, so it's like sometimes I think that people are manipulative and I think there's it's so ingrained in them. They don't even know what they're saying.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And it's like so. Yeah. So I mean, I feel like I'm constantly doing stuff like it's so funny, too, because we were watching that the movie. And my wife was getting irritated. Because they're behaving in such a way. And it's not the drugs. Because it's funny. You were talking about drug addiction.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Or addiction in general. That wouldn't work with me. I've never had a drink in my life. Because my father was an alcoholic.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I made a choice.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Because it was so traumatic as a kid.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Never smoked cigarettes. Never smoked pot. Never done. But we were watching the movie. And just the way they were... Talking and his pitch and the over the top and, you know, work, do this, do that. And I've said things like when people are complaining, I'm like, well, you know what? I'll fix that. Start working. And I do the whole boom. Start working. Work until it's done.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Like you can fix it and I'll do this whole thing, that whole hype up thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And she's seen it. So when he's doing it in the movie, she's going – And she's looking at me and I'm like, don't, don't. Because I can see it. And as he's doing it, I'm thinking, oh, shoot. She's staring at me, right? And I look at her, I go, stop, stop. That's not, she's like, uh-huh. And there's all these little times she would look at me and I'd be like, trying not to laugh.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I'm like, that's not, I've never, never. I would, how can, I'm offended that you would even think that I, she is, you know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Come on, stop. But. Yeah, so it's funny because you talk about all these things in the book, but I mean, and these guys that are behaving this way, like sometimes it's just so, I think it's so ingrained in you. I wonder how you, just like you said, how do you, how do those guys, I know your thing is like, I don't care about those guys.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I care about these women, but I'm saying, but sometimes it's a woman who's narcissistic in general.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
But without a traumatic event, I don't know at what point you get the carpet yanked out from underneath you and you hit your ass hard enough that you go, hey, I have to alter my behavior. Cause I think most of them, it probably never happens.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I was going to say, I'll bet you, I'll bet you most of them don't.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Oh, you mean because sometimes they can be charismatic and charming?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Well, because I was thinking to myself like, but I was thinking more like if things go wrong, like do they ever realize it's their fault? And I was thinking that's probably most of them know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, I was going to say.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I think these guys, probably 95% of the guys are in prison are, you know, suffer from like antisocial disorder.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And listen, you can't, like you're sitting there, well, sorry, I would be sitting there listening to them talk and it's just like, I'm sitting there thinking like, and they're blaming the judge, their lawyer.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
The snitch.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
And I'm sitting there thinking like, dude, Do you think maybe it's you having robbed 15 banks that got you? I feel like you contributed a little.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
That's a big word.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Oh yeah. That's definitely, that's definitely me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
That's definitely.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
I feel great.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The people that have like anxiety, you know, you have people that seem anxious and they don't feel comfortable and they're, they're awkward.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like I don't, I'm always like, I'll talk to those guys and I just think to myself like, what must this be like? Cause you clearly have anxiety and all these things that I don't have.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, he was all in. He was go big or go home. Yeah. Um, so, so what happened? So you, you obviously see him again, right? You guys start seeing each other.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I was going to say, what's the saying? Nature loads the gun and nurture pulls the trigger.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah. I had to look that up the other day.
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in the 80s i immediately think of see i think of these things i know colby doesn't know but i i think of Oh, gosh, what was his name? He did those videos. This had to be in the late 80s with the models behind him, you know, Addicted to Love.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Was that an accident or he really was working out there?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
So, so you start going out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Is any of that true?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
What – there's a scene in the movie where you two are in the back of a limo and the wife shows up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Did that happen?
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The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Like that?
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The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Really?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Because, you know, they always – there's always, you know, the Hollywood, they kind of twist things or – So what happened there? Exactly like that?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Um, so, I mean, did at that point, did he say, look, we're, we're getting a divorce.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Was he as wealthy at that point?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Because when I watched the movie, I remember thinking, like, she made out. Like, that was a perfect situation for her because she's going to get a nice little chunk of money. She's going to leave. And then when the FBI comes in later, she keeps all her money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah, it definitely worked out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
It's funny. I knew a guy in prison that the FBI had come in and arrested him because he was a felon. They made him like sell all of his stock in this company. And he sold it at the height of the company. And within the next few years, it dropped down to nothing. He's like, thank God they made me do that. So at that point,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You guys, do you get married right away or do you continue to date for a while or?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Did you have, were there, first of all, how long did it take for him to get divorced?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oh, okay. Yeah, so it didn't drag out very... No, I think he got divorced very quick. By the time you got married, though, did you realize that there was an issue with drugs? Or were you also involved in that? Because...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
It's kind of like mental illness. What's bipolar condition in your teens is more manageable. That person, by the time they're 50, they're just a lunatic.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
It's funny because when I've watched... jordan on videos i'm like he's super charming he's very very you know just middle of the road he's not offensive he never argues he you know he's uh he's like he just got a great you know very charismatic And I'm like, yet I've met multiple people that know him personally.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
That is funny.
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The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And all of them have said, absolute maniac, complete asshole, not like what you see in the movies. And I'm thinking to myself, like, I didn't see – I'm not thinking the movie. I'm thinking I've seen videos of him being – Right. You know, interacting with people always seems very, very cordial, very reasonable. And they're like absolutely unreasonable. He screams and hollers. He's belligerent.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
So, well, I mean, how hard was it to become a model? Like that's can't be easy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
He will. And matter of fact, I have a friend who's a producer in Los Angeles. And he after the Wolf of Wall Street, Jordan, he was working with Jordan. That they were trying to work on some kind of a series or something that they were trying to put together. And he said it took within three to six months. He's like almost nobody wanted to work with him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
He's like he probably could have got it done. Yeah. But he alienated and belittled and screamed at everybody along the way. And they're like, yeah, I can't deal. Like we haven't even got this thing off the ground yet. And this is how he's behaving. He'll be a monster by the end.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
You know, so you're saying you're kind of, you're not saying you didn't say all that, but you're saying the same kind of thing. Like he yells and screams.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
But you still married him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
What happened?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
When you're deeper and deeper into it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
The Untold Story Behind The Wolf of Wall Street & Jordan Belfort | Nadine Macaluso
Suddenly you have a kid.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He's on his knees saying his prayers and When you do it, you grasp this concept, right, that we are all born into a collective tunnel of normality. For some reason, you realize that we're all human. We all understand in this tunnel. And then when you do something like this, you're extracted from that tunnel.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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200 250 pounds a week you know what i mean and this is and you're still where you live in i'm at my mom's house at her apartment but at that point we ended up and ended up finding our own apartment yeah because because of the money that we were making
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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after the green came the cane so we started selling cane and we were pushing about like five or seven so we started to move those keys and we would take these duffel bags full of cash bags that were huge you know what i'm saying just $1,000 in each slip. You know what I mean? He ended up having a lot of that stuff, but it was... He was a good guy. It's not like the guy you... You know, that's...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, so the burns ended up coming to his skin. It paralyzed him. Yeah, my whole life, I was feeding him through a tube. But he was my best friend because when there was nobody to talk to, I would talk to him. You know what I mean? Right. That was my road dog. That was my best friend.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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this mafioso dude that looks crazy or nothing like that he was just a humble guy he would come and we would give him the car keys eat some food give him the car keys and he would take the car right bring it back really quick and the car was full and then we would take those keys back and then
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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hop in the car let's go back home and then when next next next you know we open up that trunk and that trunk is full you know what i'm saying uh he would he would he would never trip about like a hundred grand he wouldn't even trip about a hundred hundred grand bro he was like Oh, well, because sometimes, you know, sometimes people would get popped. You know what I'm saying?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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20 grand, 40K here, you know? And we would have to call him up and he would be like, It is what it is. I feel like he made a lot more money from us than we ever could lose. You know what I mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Does he give you like an opportunity to make it up or he's just- Yeah, for sure.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, he gave us chances. He always gave us chances. He was like, well, look, this is your account. This is how much you got. Instead of cutting us off, he would always hook us up with another chance.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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yeah i you know what i mean interviewed lots of guys i've written several stories and they're like you know they'll you know usually get a pass especially if you can prove somebody got busted then they're like okay it wasn't even a pass though like he was like a genuine friend he would come to our house
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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and kick it like with my mom and stuff and hang out with us you know what i mean like he was he wasn't like this like you always hear stories like oh if you don't got this and this this is this is gonna happen we're gonna drop you in a bat of acid exactly exactly it wasn't like that at all you know what i'm saying he was more like uh we were best friends kind of thing you know what i'm saying and if something happens it happens to the to the uh to the both of us
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and he would often use us as kind of like the muscle as well because you know he knew who we who we were and how we roll with you know what i mean were there any like people getting grabbed or anything like that that uh did you ever get robbed or so when i grew up bro in the streets that i grew up in
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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People get robbed and arrested all the time.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Every single day. Murders. I mean, man, my best friend, he was only 15. I looked up to him. He ended up smoking two dudes. He smoked them point blank, boom, boom. But that's just where we come from. The backyard was a dungeon. You know what I'm saying? This is where we come from.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You know what I mean? What was the reason for that?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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um he ended up getting jumped so they're walking down the path some shit like that somebody else ends up trying trying to hit him up you know what you claim and and we and we and we didn't bang so we weren't like gangbangers right but other gangs seen us as a threat because we were a group of kids that were very violent and very fucking
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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aggressive so these other kids ended up hitting them up and then it was nkt nightmares coming true that's that's who we were we were the ones that tagged things up and stuff like that the nightmares coming true and um that was the thing like back in the day you know
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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uh he ended up these dudes ended up hitting them up and they beat him up and a week later he caught up with them they go back and find him yeah behind a ross and just smokes them both like two brothers you know he got like 75 years um But like the robbing, the chaos, the type of violence, we would do shit just to do it, bro. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So when I was eight, he ended up passing away on me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So now I'm 16 years old, 17 years old, making money. I mean, I didn't want to be violent at that point. I just love making money. But also with money comes the arrogance, you know? I don't know. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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so we ended up getting caught for selling so i ended up getting caught at 18 years old i um for drugs yeah how'd that happen drugs yeah i ended up getting caught with 20 grand 25 grand or something like that i was i was me and my brother i told my brother i didn't want to leave the hotel room my brother's like come on just one one more drop one more drop take the money
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Is this from complications of? Complications of his situation. Right. So when my brother passed away, we sued the hospital. He passed away in. We ended up suing him for four point something million. And my family ended up getting paid, but my father was an alcoholic. My father left us. He left us for two or three years. And he came back without nothing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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he wanted to go to a strip club or something. So we're like, all right, I'll take the money. Right. So we ended up going over there. Um, we ended up getting stopped, pulled over. He ended up taking like a wrong turn or something like that. And we pulled in at the Dairy Queen and, and we seen the cost behind us. You know what I'm saying? Um, As soon as we head out, I see the cops.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I dodge and duck, grab my backpack, and I take off. I take off to an adult shop and flush the green in the toilet. And I stash the cash.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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i don't know like like the toilet like dispensers you know those like those one things that that you put on a toilet paper on a toilet yeah right there open it exactly there's this much toilet paper or whatever there's a pocket okay so so the pocket i stuffed it in with 20 grand right and i left it there and then i left and as soon as i walk out call the cab cops are just like
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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get on the floor get on the floor and this is just because you ran not because they were just a fluke this is just because i ran yeah this is just because i ran and then they ended up searching that spot at the adult shop and then they ended up catching that money
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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and um they came out started high-fiving each other and shit you know and they put five thousand five thousand in evidence and they said and they said eight thousand dollars they found me with eight thousand dollars that's what the the report said right eight thousand i know for a fact i had like 25 fucking grand there I told him, bro, you could take the whole fucking thing, man. Just take it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You know what I'm saying? I don't give a shit. I had like 75 grand at home. You know what I'm saying?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I can tell you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Who cares about that?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I mean, guys I've met in the federal system, you know, they'll kind of like convert money to drugs.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
And so if you're caught with like half a key, And they catch you with 25 grand, that half a key, the weight ends up being now it's a key and a half. Cause they know for 25 grand, you can know a key. So they just add the extra key and you know, which is fine. That's just the system. But what's funny is how many times I've had guys like that get pulled over and
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And they search them and they got 25, let's say you got 20 grand in cash. And they're like, look, if I convert this to weight, then you're going to get a mandatory minimum of 10. Or I can say I only caught you with $8,000. And you'll get the five year mandatory. And they're like, but I can't have, I can't do that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And have you say you got caught with this and guys will turn the 8,000 and turn the 8,000 and turn it. That's all I had was eight. Okay. Good. You know, cause you just saved them five years for 12 grand. He just saved five years and you're not getting that money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Keep it man. Like really? Like you could have had that for your family, but like whatever, you know what I'm saying?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
In that case, the guy feels like the cops doing him a favor.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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exactly that's that's how i felt right because the 25 grand i'm thinking dude he took i don't know how much you know what i mean but he took a good chunk and these were g stacks bro so we had like like a pool table full of g stacks so we'd have a pool table and this is how we would we would count count the money up before before we took it i took it to santa rosa right so we had
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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g stacks the whole whole way through across across the fucking uh shit the pool table so we have like 100 grand stack it up throw it in a bag another 100 grand throw it in the bag and we had artillery like a son of a bitch man we were fucking pushing bro you know what i'm saying um i loved
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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like like pew pews you know right i love pew pews i love pew pews that was my thing i'm hick talk so so we call them pew pews you know i know you're the same thing yeah yeah horrible It's horrible. You can never tell a full story with the full thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You have to self... Regulate. Self-censor yourself.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Exactly, man. So we do the TikToks. Oh, and guys, I want to say right now, I love my followers. Jenner's Ratchet, fucking Emily, Michelle Unicorn, Old School, Candice Foster. I love you guys so much. You guys are awesome. What is the PDX? PDX? That's Portland, brother.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oh, okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, we come... That's Portland Airport. Did you know that? No, we didn't know that. That's Portland Airport, City of Roses.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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What does it say at the bottom of the shirt? This says...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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okay from hopeless to focus all right so i thought it was resilient yeah resilient minds you see this yeah i thought that was the name of the channel maybe yeah old school mom hey i've had these followers from tick tock they hear hear my story bro des right like changed my entire life i mean just craziness like you don't even know the amount of appreciation i went from shelter bro to doing this
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And so we ended up in like... It's common. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like 90% of the lottery winners end up broke in three years.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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God's been good to me, my man. God's been so good to me. There's no words, man. There's no words, bro. I'm a dude that came from the shit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I always feel like if you do the right thing, then God tends to clear the path for you. Does that make sense? It's kind of weird how it works, right? Things start working much easier than...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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then probably you know you suffer more in your mind than in reality but people are afraid to to try and try and try and do the right thing but if you start doing the right thing then it just comes it starts coming easier and easier and things start good things are happening
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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What trips me out, right, is that like... Of course, some people get cancer and die.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But still, for the majority... Come on, Matt. Really, Matt? Damn, Matt. I'm saying it. Most of the time it works out. Most of the time it works out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, so like what I trip out about, right, is that like...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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not only are you doing something for somebody that's messed up but like somebody that committed the crime that i committed um i have no words for that like i don't know why people would see me worthy um and would care about me because honestly i i've done some heinous shit man you know what i'm saying well i mean like my life is dark bro people my whole life people like redemption
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You know, it's just you... He called us, bro, because. And he's an alcoholic.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They want to think that people can change. Most people don't. But if they do change, then people feel they should be rewarded. So, you know, you got to think it's in a way and it feels it feels perfect forgiveness. And I think supporting someone feels good if that if you think that person is doing the right thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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i think like you know having come from where i come from right it feels like this is all new to me but there's never a day that i don't appreciate like the peace i feel when i wake up i've never had peace i've never had life you know what i'm saying i used to wake up and feel shamed guilty and angry you know what i mean um i never felt like i deserved it you know what i mean right um
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's not good. He got in a car wreck, crashed underneath a semi, called my mother, and he had like a cane in his back. So he had like a whole kilo inside of the back, and he got stopped, and he was worried about that kilo being found inside of his trunk. All right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oh, so when I was 18, that happened. I ended up going to prison, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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How much time did you get?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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i got like 22 months 20 20 22 months for marrow or is that how much you got or how much you did you got 22 and you that's how much i did i think i got 24 months with good time okay and then they let me out in like 20 22 or something like that um i ended up coming home and as soon as i came home bro i was gunning i was like right so we're hitting that we hit it hard
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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come home and we go to california like the second day out i'm coming back with my trunk full you know like literally the second day out um we come back and you know we're doing this whole thing and we just blow up even more bro this is where we start just blowing up like we made a lot of money you know um every month we would come through i don't know like
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Probably more than half a million dollars, you know? And that's when it happened, bro. That's when it happened. We had a team of people who would respond for us if, like, we needed somebody to pay back the money. We had a group of people. We had...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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like we didn't like to get our hands dirty at this point because at this point we were more like business oriented you know so what happened was one of my best friends he ended up staying in a this is crazy man he was staying in an apartment right next to my house right and he ended up being in the apartment right next to my house I had no idea that he was there and
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I came back from something and I seen him there and that's how we ended up at my house. He was like, Victor, what? I was like, yeah, man, what's going on? He goes, yo, man, what's going on? It's me, Chris. I was like, yo, what's going on, brother? He goes, hey, man, I'm on my way to a party right now. I was like, nah, fuck that party. Just stay here. You know what I mean? Hang out with me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Shit, we'll get some escorts or something. Um, He ended up staying at my house. But ain't it weird? Like, maybe seconds later, I would have never seen him. You know what I mean? But I happened to get there at that exact time, and he happened to be there at that exact time.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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and now he's at my house you know what i mean who would ever have thought that that would be the last night he ever existed you know what i'm saying like i don't know it's just crazy um i started off like that i showed him around my house showed him my car i had like tv screens and in in my cadillac you know out of the xbox installed like the old school halo you know what i mean right
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I thought I was a bad mother, right? I was like, yeah, bro.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The only video game I've ever really played.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, bro. We got like the two 12s and shit, right? So the 12s were like bumping in the back. And I was like a little kid with a mean mug and some sunglasses. You know what I mean? I felt like I was the complete shit. Fucking Eric.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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arrogant little bastard innocent and um yeah that was the day man he came over i caught him on a phone call he was making a phone call and he was in the bathroom he asked to use my phone and he was in the bathroom this kid
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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he started making phone calls to somebody and i overheard him talking about like yo you guys get here have guns make sure you guys have guns these dudes are strapped up and i started hearing him talk um yeah is this just you home alone no this is me my cousin and my other cousin
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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and so he's in the bathroom calling in to set you up yeah i had invited him over and i was gonna give him money and shit like you know like a thousand bucks just for hookups like i didn't care care about a thousand we would drop that on strippers and whatnot you know um he ended up calling and then um
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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uh that's what happened man i heard him and then when he was in the bathroom when he he he came out i ended up telling him hey bro do you want to holler at me real quick he goes yeah what's up anyway um you know come over to my room right quick and then he went over to my room and when he went over to my room is when it all started uh
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And you know that there's boundaries that are never meant to be crossed between human and human. Then I was extracted. I could look into the collective tunnel, but I can never be a part of it again. Oh. My father was really abusive. He was in church, so that religion played a huge part in our family.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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i can't say much about it but i ended up um i beat him you know what i'm saying right i beat him but next thing you know he's on his knees saying his prayers and he's looking at me asking how to pray
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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i just see the gunshot go off right in the middle of a prayer um he asked for forgiveness and all that stuff um next thing you know we go to my uh go to my go to my bathtub like we carried him to my bathtub and uh yeah we I remember grabbing some beers right before. And me and my cousin started drinking, like, before we did it. And we started talking to each other, and my cousin was in tears.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But, yeah, man, so, yeah, we ended up going there, right? I was 10, 11 years old. But my father was the type of guy to get drunk with us. Like, you know what I mean? Like, here, son, have a drink or two, you know? I ended up drinking a lot, man. At the age of 11, I was already an alcoholic, you know?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You know, like, yo, bro, yo, we got to do what we got to do, you know. And we ended up, like, dismembering him. Never forget the way it felt, what it was like. I remember feeling like I had an outer body experience. It was weird. It's weird, bro, because it's like you know you're doing it, but it's not you. It's like somebody else. It's like looking at yourself from the top of the ceiling.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I'll never forget the way it felt. It felt like Like we're all born, like you grasp this concept when you do it, this concept, right? That we are all born into a collective tunnel of normality. And you realize that. For some reason, you realize that. We're all human. We all understand in this tunnel. And then when you do something like this, you're extracted from that tunnel.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And you know that there's boundaries that are never meant to be crossed between human and human. Then I was extracted. And from that extraction point, from that other dimension of sorts, I could look into the collective tunnel. but I can never be a part of it again. Um, And that way, like you're isolated. You always long to be a part of that culture again, a part of that group of people.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But you know you're not. Like you'll never be. You know what I mean? You're forever distracted. You're forever extracted. And you're forever condemned in that area because of who you are, what you know you are.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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and um i think it's been one of the saddest things i've i've ever had to endure in life in general you know what i mean um it i mean obviously a different experience but it's funny my wife and i will be at dinner with somebody and you hear them talking about they're very middle class normal people right and they're having these conversations and she and i will we're sitting there right you know
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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you'll glance at each other and both of us because my wife did five years for an ice conspiracy yeah she did five years for an ice conspiracy and these people will be talking about very normal things kids soccer games um school plays and you'll glance at each other we'll glance at each other really and you'll have that moment of you feel like We don't belong here. I don't belong here.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Or people that know your story and you're at dinner with them and they kind of go around. They all talk, but they never get to the point where they talk to you or ask you because they know...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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We don't want to touch this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Right. I can't say anything. We don't want to kind of include them because we know that their story is so vastly different. It will make us feel – them feel uncomfortable. It won't make us feel uncomfortable. We kind of laugh about it. We kind of like – which I understand is different. But I kind of feel like that. Like you're always – You're always on the outside.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Even when you're in the thick of it with everybody else, you know and your friends know we don't belong in this situation.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Are you still going to school, I mean, or just periodically?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So with my wife's kids now, this is another story completely, but I found her. She found me on a TikTok live because I blew up on TikTok, right? So we're doing these lives. And my beautiful wife, man, she used to come to visit me and she used to put in so much work for me. She used to... go drive eight hours just to visit me, get a hotel, put $200 while she had a 7-Eleven job, you know?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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There wasn't really school, man, because I was, like, moving from house to house. I couldn't even read, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, I was moving house to house. During that time, yeah, my mother, she tried to unalive me. These were all things that I carried around. into my adulthood. You know what I mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And it was the most precious thing anybody ever done for my ass because I never had nothing. Yeah, just talking about it gets me emotional, man. You know what I mean? Like, fuck, like nobody is ever given two shits, you know? So she would bring her kids and stuff. And now...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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um i'm out out here with her kids with her and um i'm looking at them and they got this weird way this family like that dynamic where they come home and they tell each other how how their day was right
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You're totally foreign to how you were raised. You're just like, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I guess they called it a haul. Like we do a show and tell here, Victor. So when you come in and you buy things, like we all like to see it and stuff and see what you did. And it was like a haul. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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like these are kids they're um it makes sense to me right like you know it's like at christmas you kind of go around like yeah they want to show it your presence you open it what'd you get oh my gosh joe so and so got me this and you know exactly yeah they brag about us it's like this this is what we got you know what i'm saying but that's the problem is is that that's a normal family and you don't know what that is and i'm like huh why like but the kids like they um
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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that's good stuff yeah man there's there's so good to me um so her family that dynamic right it's like it's so strange to me and i realize that like sometimes when me and her are like walking through costco or some something like that i'm like stuck in that moment like where the fuck am i at like i come i was in solitary confinement with some of the baddest motherfuckers and we were
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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stabbing each other and we you know what i mean uh sorry shanks shanks you know what i'm saying now you're discussing uh and now i'm out here is the it should we buy the uh the jiffy juice because it's it's 20 cents cheaper or should we go buy the big pack exactly right and you're like what the fuck am i doing i used to drop a thousand dollars a night on a stripper
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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She's like the most precious human being. Well, for me, right? So she got this, Matthew. She got this for me 20 years ago. And she bought the prayer hands right here, you see. Because... she knew that I was getting sentenced to a long time and she bought this for me. She wasn't ever going to give it to me because at first I thought that I was getting in life without, but she gave it to me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And then she kept it this whole entire time. And now she gave it to me actually in person in the bow. And so that's why I'm wearing it right now. I was like, 20 years later, she actually gave it to me in person. And it had the bow, everything to it. You know what I mean? So I was like, holy shit. Ain't that wild, bro, that you're loved? Beyond anything that I could have imagined, you know?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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For somebody to hold on to something like this for 20 fucking years, you know what I'm saying? It's wild, man. It's wild.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Well, let's go back to the tub. All right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
So what do you do? Garbage bags and throw them in dumpsters?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Hey, man, really?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I'm sorry. I just... All right. You know what's so funny is... Funny is probably not the right word, but... Yeah, maybe not in this instance. No. My... If a grown man can have a best friend, my best friend would be a buddy named Pete that I was incarcerated, right? Because you meet the best people there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So my mother tried to want to lie to me because she was going through some things like my brother just passed away and stuff like that. And there was one moment that shaped my life completely though, man. And this is the moment that I think I blame, not blame, but had an impact on my entire life, the trajectory of my entire life. You know what I mean? And this moment was like when my,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It's funny, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
And his case, there was two murders and they disposed of the bodies in dumpsters, right? Like they put them in zip, they put them in...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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and the guys were killed they put them in sleeping bags and they in the middle you know taped them up in the middle night they threw them in a dumpster and then one body was never found again and then the other one was um it was actually found by like a homeless guy who went into the dumpster just before it got and that was it you know they called the cop hey this is what i just found so i'm just wondering no this was uh this was bags so
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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this is a part that I've never shared on, on other podcasters, stuff like that. This is something that's going to come out with the documentary. Uh, Oh, I'm doing a documentary and a, and a, and a book, but, um, he was there for three days, man. Yeah. He was there for three days. Um,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Are you guys discussing, like, what are we going to do? Aren't you concerned, though? This guy was on the phone with someone.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yes. Oh, yeah, so that was another thing, right? So when he was on the phone, he was talking to some people. When we were doing this... His phone's going off? No. Two dudes come to our house with masks and pew-pews. Right. They come to our house with pew-pews, and they're black dudes with their masks and their hats to... To the side. There was two in the front, one in the back.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And they came to the house. I was this close, Matt. This close to putting one through that door. You know what I mean? But we couldn't because he had already been deceased at that point.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And there's not enough room in the bathtub for three more. Sorry.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Appreciate you, Matt.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
They come through that door. They're done.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, they're done.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The type of stuff that we had. Yeah. Yeah, they're done, bro. You know what I'm saying? These are hollows. They knocked twice and took off. And they got in like a little green Honda and just took off, you know? But I'll never forget the way I felt when I was sitting there like...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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locked and loaded you know what i'm saying like just waiting like come on is it gonna happen man the nerves you feel you know what i'm saying knowing that somebody's in the tub right now you know what i mean it's um wild wild as fuck man you know
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I'd love to say it's the same thing in the mortgage industry. No, fucking quit it. It's vastly different. It's a vastly different situation.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
A lot of similarities, Matt. Yeah, a lot of similarities. Sorry. Interest rates.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right, right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So three days, you got to get rid of this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, we ended up calling some dudes from a biker club.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Listen, I don't understand.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That sounds like the same thing with my buddy Pete. Like they're calling people to like a – it's almost like – They had told us, Matt.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They had told us, look, if you ever need anything, we're here. And it was such bullshit though because – It's like Pulp Fiction.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Brother this and brother that. Fucking come time. Fucking pussy ass. Like, you know, they ended up, they were the ones that told on us. Really? Yeah, it's crazy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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See, my buddy Pete, they called, like, first they called these guys, and they were like, yeah, we can't have anything to do with that. And he's like, what are you talking about? Like, this is, you've told us. He called like multiple people that had said the same thing. Like, you ever need anything? You ever need?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So my father usually beat my mother, you know what I'm saying? But this time was different. They were in the room. He was, you know, beating her up. Usually she screams, but this time I couldn't hear her scream no more. Like, her screams sounded muffled. So we walk in the room, you know. Actually, my brothers heard it, and then they kicked down the door. And when they kicked down that door...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But you know what happened too though, right? So in their defense is that my cousin went out and we promised to keep it. Nobody would say nothing. Nobody would say a word. And we ended up, he ended up going to another state and telling my aunts and uncles what had happened. And those are the ones that ended up calling the cops on us.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I always felt like he snitched because it was like, when you go and tell other people about something me and you did, you know what I'm saying? You're pretty much toast at that point. Right. Because you're pretty much putting us out there. And those were the ones who called the cops on us.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So it's been three days.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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you guys are having a discussion about getting rid of this these these let's say garbage bags and then we call those guys from the biker club okay and they say all right brother uh what do you got and then and then we gave them some money yeah well not money but some other stuff
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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and then um they go all right we can meet you over here and then we got another buddy to bring a truck he brought the truck in so we used to have these duffel bags right so we got the hefty bags and then we got the duffel bags we put the hefty bags full of the him parts parts and then we put it inside of like the duffel bag and then carried the duffel bag into the truck and then
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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uh like we ended up taking it over there and so these guys pick it up and they take it or they take it they take it and then we think that it's gone it's never going to be found again because that was the assurance we had um lo and behold that wasn't it you know what i mean uh so yeah that's how that went down and then when the cops started coming and asking questions i i I was kind of waiting.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I thought that I was fucked because my cousin had been saying so many things.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The cops, wait a minute. So how long before the cops show up and how did they show up?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Months, months.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Months. So you feel you're okay for months?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, I did not feel okay. Not okay. I felt like I told you, brother, like once you step into that dimension,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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you're always in that dimension so i wasn't free from the moment that we did this i was completely like my mind was i was thinking like how am i gonna live the rest of my life like this because if this is my destiny i'm pretty much you know what i'm saying like regardless you know like i ended up hearing the phone calls that were coming in
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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talking about, hey, your cousin's saying this, your cousin's saying that, your cousin's saying this, and my stomach just starts to boil. And I'm like... why is he telling people that? And then I called him up, and then he starts crying. He's like, you know, I'm having nightmares, brother. I'm seeing this, I'm seeing that. And I'm like, what the fuck, man? I mean, the time for guilt is over.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, that shit's done, bro. Like, that shit's between you and God, homie. You know what I'm saying? And the rest is between me and you. You know what I'm saying? So the fact that he was out there, because, Matt, there was times that I thought, I wanted to talk to, like, have somebody there to communicate the fact that we just did this, you know what I'm saying? And I couldn't.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I just kept my mouth closed because you have to. These are things that come with what you do, you know what I'm saying? So when he went out there and he started saying that, I started getting calls from family out there saying, Victor, please tell me that he's lying, that you guys didn't really do this. I go, what are you talking about? He goes, no, he told us what you guys did.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I go, what are you talking? I'll go get him. He's intoxicated right now. Let me just go and get him. I assure you, he's not in his five cents. So I ended up, when I was on my way there, the cops ended up busting him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The cops bust him for what?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Because the people called the cops on him. So they called him. They said there was a body, this, this, and that. And then they had to send out a search warrant out here in Salem, Oregon for the person that was missing for four months. You know what I'm saying?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But you don't have a body.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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but they got the missing persons case and they got a bunch of people saying, oh, that's Victor's best friend. You know what I'm saying?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So I was like, fuck. So how long does that, how long does you get? Like, that's not, I mean, in Florida, I don't think, in Florida, you would have to have, Those accusations aren't enough, most likely without a body or a significant amount of evidence.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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In fucking Salem, they would toast you. In Salem, they don't give a shit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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like my mother's sitting there on the floor like my father's on top of her he's choking her with one hand um the other hand has got his own on his hand and he's smearing it on her face um he's naked you know what i'm saying and i i remember that i was seven years old and Um, I'll never forget the way it felt to be paralyzed, to be like, to feel fear, encapsulate your entire being, you know? Um,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They're burning women for being witches in Salem. Not that Salem, bro.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, that's not Oregon, brother.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Sorry. Man, really, man? Listen, my knowledge of geography was taught to me in Florida. So not the greatest school system.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I know the 13 Confederate states, and there's a bunch of square states up north. Of course.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Of course.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's all they were concerned when I was growing up. Don't leave here. I committed all my crimes in those states. Guys are like, why didn't you go other places? I'm like, I'm in the South. I'm just hitting the South.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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There's fucking flyers. Right there in my face. I was like, no tacos for me that night.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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On the thing?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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On the taco stand. His big old face right there. Missing four months. If anybody has any questions, Christopher Lampkin case.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So they grab your cousin, and then you say you're on your way there, and the cops pull you over, or when you get there, the cops grab you?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, no, no, no, no. I am not caught. The cops got my cousin, and we had gotten calls that he was already caught. We had went to go to talk to my cousin. Sounds like a you problem. We weren't going to talk to my cousin. If you pick up what I'm saying. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oh yeah. No, no, that's over.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah. That's over. I was, I was gonna, gonna go take him fishing. We were going to be hanging out. And then I was going to have the talk with my cousin. Um, before I got there, um, the cops had picked him up. So we didn't ever get a chance to talk to him. Um, But he ended up going to prison, and he had told me, oh, no, bro, don't worry. I got this. He didn't say nothing, bro.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And the thing that we were agreed on, that we had agreed on, right, that he would take the whole thing, make it, you know, like because of what happened, right, how it occurred, and so that didn't.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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i don't feel like this is what that's what i don't really piss me off i'm like all right cool so i end up seeing him in prison we ended up fighting i beat the shit out of him in prison in front of all his little friends and shit so well so how do you end up in prison Shit, because of the murder.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, no, I understand. I'm saying right now we've got you sitting in a car, your cousin's been arrested, you're at home, you're getting some phone calls, your cousin's in jail, and you're saying, you're like, ah, sounds like he's got some issues going on.
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Like his...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, that sounds like a you problem, not my problem.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So the cops end up coming and getting me investigated. I don't know how they got half. My paperwork is like 1,500 pages long. It's a big old stack of paperwork. They got me. My first offer was 47 years. 37 years was the second.
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Okay, well, wait a second. They grab you. They arrest you. Yeah, they arrest me. Did they arrest you just on your cousin's word?
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No, he did not say a word. My cousin did not say a word. It was other people that were saying that me and him did this, and then they investigated. They don't need much, Matt, to get you. When you're arrested, you're arrested. They don't give a shit. They're like, they felt like I did something, and half the shit that they heard was false. But that's what they're going on.
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That's what they present to the DA. That's what happens. They never included the fact that he was trying to invade our home. They never included that. They said that we did this because we're bad people and he owed us money. That was never the fucking case, and I'll continue to say that until my last breath. You know what I mean? But yeah.
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So you're getting, so you're arrested, you're in prison, no bond, I'm assuming. No, no bond. You're being, do you get a private attorney?
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Yes. So, man, Paul Furter. okay um yeah paul ferder he was an ex expensive attorney what's he saying he's saying uh yo we got this we got this don't worry gets me a deal okay cool get to your deal he said he said he said said we're good so we got a deal bro you're gonna beat it he said you did not do nothing i said i did not do nothing right right and um and then they find my cousin's girlfriend
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and and she's states evidence right she's state witness and she said i seen victor do this i've seen victor do that victor's a psychopath was she there she was there that's not good that's not good but you know what man this is the first time that i'm actually gonna say this all right
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at that moment she almost didn't make it out of that house right she had no idea and i saved her life she almost didn't make it out of that house you know right i saved her life and she ended up well not that i Not that I feel like God or anything, you know what I mean? Like, I didn't have the right to put her in that situation anyways. But, like, her life turned out so messed up, bro.
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like, to be paralyzed by fear. That was the day that I declared war on fear. I made it a mission in my whole entire life. Like, I couldn't talk. I couldn't speak. I was shocked. Like, my hands were shaking. Like, tears were coming out of my eyes and shit, you know. But that was the day, I think, where I actually had a relationship with hatred because hatred was my number one thing. She was my...
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So bad for what we did, you know what I mean? But I did save her life, man.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Okay, so...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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She was going to get the business. Right. No, I understand what you're saying. And I stopped it.
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But so eventually she ends up going to the police or they talk to her. She says, yeah, I was there. This is what happened. This is what these guys did. And that's what they had on me. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So they've got her. Mm-hmm.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So they have her ready to testify. And she's explained probably that these other guys picked him up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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She says so much, Matt. She says so much. She says everything about me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Do they end up talking to the other guys that picked up the bags?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No. She said more on me than anything else. She hated me for some reason.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, I mean, and, you know. I can understand.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I was going to say.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I mean, not for some reason. You know what I mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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All right, bro. So, basically, your fear at this point is she's going to get on the stand. She's going to say exactly what happened. You can't go to trial. I'm thinking trial. Like, I mean, I'm assuming your lawyer's thinking trial until she shows up.
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until she shows up he said no they got way too much because if your cousins say what they what your other cousin told him you're fucked you already have multiple people ready to get on like a million people because my cousin went out there and started telling people that we did this that's hearsay they need him it does not matter they got a few people to say it does not matter bro like
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in my case um i was gonna get a beaut beautiful deal right but because of what so many people
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heard and then that lady that lady right there that girl she changed changed it all she was actually there she's seen me and there's too many people that are cooperating for you to and she's seen that i did some other stuff prior so she implemented that in that case too she's like this is a crazy son of a gun this dude should not be out here um so that's how they pop me and so i get um
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47 was, was, was the first offer. 37 was the second 27 was the last I go. I'm thinking about, um, on, on aliving myself at that point. I really didn't care. I'm, I mean, I was born in chaos. I'm done with this shit. You know, that's, that's kind of the, the mentality I had.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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How real quick, how old were you at this time?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I was, man, I don't know, like 19, 20 years old.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So let's say 20. So at 20 years old, you're being offered 27 more times than you've been on this earth. Yeah, for sure. With good time, you're still looking at doing what, 20? Yeah.
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shit i wasn't about to find out i was like screw that that's done hope is gone hope is something that happens to other people not for me you know what i mean um so when i got there that's what happened and
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they say all right they go all right we'll go go to trial i was like okay if i got anything more than 20 years i was going to call call it quits i'm good you know they can find me in that cell put me in a bag take me out you know um but the mom and dad came up told the da had a conversation with the da and actually talked to him hey we still don't have the head and legs
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she was almost like like a mother figure to me you know what I mean like like was anger um I think
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So they found pieces? They did find pieces?
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They found pieces, not the head and legs. Okay. And I hate to say it, but it's the only thing that saved me, Matt. Right. Because they wanted closure. So the deal, they came back at me and said, if you tell us where the head and legs are at, we give you 180 months plus the time served in county jail. 180 months, that's 15 years. I was like, where do I sign this? You know what I'm saying?
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Like, where do I sign this? Because at that point I'm thinking I'm going to do life. Like, how did this even come through? Because they want closure for their boy, you know? And so when I'm in actual court, I'm sitting there and I'm, they want a written letter to the mom and I'm sitting there. How do you talk? What do you say, you know what I'm saying?
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What do you say to somebody's mother after you did what you did? I always get this in my chat. Have you ever talked to the mom? What would you say if you could? I can't say nothing. I can't even communicate with them, nothing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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but what i did what i said was i hope you can forgive me not for my sake but for your own because after a loss like that i could imagine you know what i mean i'm the number one focus of your hatred you know what i'm saying um and i could completely understand that you know i think um i'd I wish that they would understand though, you know what I mean?
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that situation played a huge role because from that point forward um i declared war on fucking fear you know what i'm saying like i've made it certain that nobody would ever instill fear in my heart again you know what i mean and so whenever somebody would try to talk shit or something like that you know um yeah we would handle it and i would do whatever i had
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When you do something like this, bro, the penitentiary walls don't got shit on the walls that you incarcerate yourself in. There wasn't one person that passed away, there was two. You know what I'm saying? I was included in that. When you do something like this, you really do,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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enter another world bro you know what i'm saying um and i think there's no words to express that world that's a dark world you know there ain't no love brother ain't no peace you know um so yeah so you you you give them this information they recover no no no they never found it
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oh wow okay but you still get the yeah we took him to the park yeah but yeah we took him to the park uh there was a park out there we took him to the park and and there was nothing there i got the 15 though so i was like all right cool so you go to what the pen i i go to prison yeah i go to county i was in county for 18 months or 20 months and then i go to two rivers What is Two Rivers?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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At Two Rivers Prison. And as soon as I walk in there, it's fucking dark, brother. Everybody's fighting.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Is this like a maximum security prison?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, maximum security.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I'm assuming based on the crime.
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Yeah, Two Rivers is maximum. So you go over there, there's walls. You don't see the outside. It's just like a little yard. You walk in, you walk around in.
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how many people are in that um a hundred people a hundred people in inside of the units there's a hundred people to every unit oh how many in the prison and there's 22 units 22 2200 people okay 2200 people but the units are very dark so there's only four units that are mainline So the four units have two, two for south side, two for north side. But the other ones are all PC.
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So they're protective custodians. but high high levels like protected custody is like like the pdds of the of the of the world you know what i'm saying right like this dude's gotta not be here because this dude will get touched you know what i'm saying so they actually signed sign and signed that off But where I was was the four units.
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So where you come in there and everybody's, like, from a different prison in there for bad things. And that was the first prison that I went to. And it was crazy. I was like, what the fuck? It was wild seeing some dude get his face sliced open, like, almost like the fourth day in there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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My mother... He was religious, but he was abusive.
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His, like, cheek was flapping because the knife went right through his... Or the piece went right through his cheek. You know what I'm saying? And this was my introduction to the prison facility like this, you know? And I... I knew that I had 15 years, but at the same time, I was like, there's no way that I'm going to wait 15 years here. Fuck no. You know what I mean?
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So I just started fighting like almost, almost immediately. I got broken face right here. This is a, That's a plate right here. I got my knuckle broken, see, right here. That's a plate in my hand. I got poked right here in my head. That's a bite mark from a cell fight. I became a shot caller at the age of 24 for the Bison game in prison.
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had to do to confront the situation, you know? 11 years old at 12 years old, I was homeless. I was sleeping on the streets. Well, I had a home. I didn't want to be at home. So I was, like, couch surfing and shit, you know? I ended up sleeping on the bleachers of my school, and that's where I actually met my wife. She was walking the track. She came from another home.
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And it's funny, right, because that's one game that nobody talks about. But we're the ones that call the shots, and they're, like, without a doubt. We're the Pisces.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, the Pisces ran all the prisons.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Why doesn't nobody talk about it, though, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They don't have a really cool name. Exactly. You have to have a Latin key. You have to have a Latin key.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Exactly, like a cool name.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Pisces basically means what, like brothers?
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Brothers, a union. Yeah. And we're the biggest gang in there. And let me tell you, nobody fucks with us. We're the largest ones. And they say that the gangs can do what they can, but the biases do what they want. You know what I'm saying? Because we don't... And we're actually pretty nice people. It's like we're not bullying people or extorting people. We're not doing that stuff.
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We're like the most peaceful gang. But when somebody fucks with us... And then we tear that yard up. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? That's exactly how it is.
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Sure, the Pisces too, when like Mexicans would come on the, you know, they immediately, they got soup. Go, check them up, soup. Well, they got soup. They got- Shoes, everything. Shower slides. Yeah, they've got a lock. They've got, like, they get, like, a whole, they come in with a whole fucking kit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So, all that, hygiene, toothpaste, you know what I mean? Starter kit. Starter kit. You weren't in prison, brother.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You weren't in prison, man. Listen, the white guys, they don't get shit. You get a lock, you might get shower slides.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Disrespectful.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, I mean, but there's also the... the benefit of there's not a whole lot of white guys, you know, at least in my prison. So it's like, you got like 30 or 50 guys, like, and usually these guys don't have any money.
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Everybody's giving up on them. So, so you, so you have heard of, of the basis.
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Oh yeah. In, in, in the medium, there was a ton of them in, in the medium and the low, but in the low, there's definitely no, I hear, I hear, hear these dudes, right.
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Say like, Oh yeah, brother. Uh, you know, shot caller of this gang and that gang. Right. And I'm thinking like the Pisces were like, like the largest gang in fucking prison. I don't know why nobody talks about them.
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Well, I think because these are guys that are not, not in your case. Well, even kind of in your case, like you said, you weren't in a gang on the outside. It was just a group of guys.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And that's very much what they are. It's like, Hey,
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We have numbers. We need to click up. We need to keep each other safe. But you're not trying to cause any problems. We're not trying to run all the drugs. No, we're not trying to do all that. They're like, they just want peace. Just to do time. And to be safe.
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But when you fuck with one.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, well, that's the safety, isn't it?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You get the whole burrito.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right. That's the safety point, right? Like, if you fuck with one guy, now you have a problem. Like, we're not bothering you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like, we're not doing nothing to start issues. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But if there's an issue, there's so many of them.
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But if there's an issue, we're going to handle it. You know what I mean? And, like, that's the number one thing that we did. So when I was a shot caller, I started to utilize that as a way to, like, to utilize strength and power. You know what I'm saying? Like, okay. So, I don't care how tough these other guys are. Like, if I have the powers behind me, then pretty much we can do whatever we want.
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You know what I mean? And then... we can go to war, you know what I mean? And I took us to war like twice. That's where the faceplate came from.
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And this is like riots in the rec yard?
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At Two Rivers, yeah. But I got a lot of respect for that, you know. I wish that I could talk about what happened, but I can't because, you know what I mean?
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Yeah, religious. They were the type of dudes that go to church on Sunday, beat your ass on fucking Sunday night. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, my mother was...
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Yeah. Because you've done enough time in prison already.
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Yeah. There's like, you know what I'm saying? I'm good. Yeah. I can't talk about it. Let's just say allegedly somebody ended up stabbing this dude in the face and he was, or poked somebody in the face. Um,
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She comes from a family that was... That was a family, like a real family. You know what I mean? I was actually sleeping on the bleachers, and that's how we ended up having a conversation and stuff. But she goes, hey, man, what's going on with you? Like, what you doing out here? You know what I mean? And so I started talking to her. We ended up talking.
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he had like a whole poker sticking out of his face and i had my face broke and the situation was critical um i i was uh i was in the medium security prison and a riot broke out in the pen and like i think it's pin one bro there's no words to express the way you feel when you're in a riot I wasn't in the riot. We just heard the riot. You could from the medium. And you were shitting your pants.
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F*** your khakis. Get the perfect jeans. You can hear the gunshots. You can hear the concussion grenades. Then they locked us up. We're like, we're not... Of course, all the guards have to go to that facility. Now, it's only... It's 300... It's probably 100 feet away. 300 feet away. 100 yards away from our facility. And... Then, so, of course, they lock us down. You hear the concussion, Grace.
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You hear the screaming. And then the helicopters come in. Like, they're landing helicopters because multiple inmates were fired on. And, you know, that's serious, obviously, because these guys don't have guns, right? Oh, yeah, for sure.
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And helicopters come in. Equalizers. They end up leaving. There was a newspaper article that I wish I could find. I actually had it at one point. The problem is it might be out. I'm sure it's out there. Somebody could find it. When the article comes out, it talks about how there was a riot in the Coleman facility. Mm-hmm. They don't mention which part. They were right in the Coleman facility.
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There were over 300 and some odd people involved because there's only like 500 guys in the pen. And they said helicopters come in like whatever, two correctional officers were injured, six inmates. I want to say there was a death. And several inmates were life flighted to the hospital.
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That's what happened.
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And then they said that the Coleman facility, right, facility, not Penn, but the facility holds such infamous inmates as Conrad Black, which was a guy that was locked up, and Matthew Cox.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And then it says... Matthew Cox, the big shebang?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Then it says... What?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The serious gangster, Triple OG, Matthew Cox?
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And it says... Matthew Cox is a very dangerous dude. We're unsure which area of the prison he was in during the riot. If you read this, you'd think I was in a riot. I'm in the medium, in my cell, going, looks bad over there. Looks bad. They're bringing in helicopters. Hey, look at guys. Look at guys.
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but it was so strange because I'm this kid coming from shit and she's this person, you know what I mean? Like she's got a mom, dad, family and shit like that. Those, those, those, those were things I never had, you know?
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I mean, you hear boom and we're ducking.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oh, you can see me in the backyard with two fucking.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's fucking hilarious. I had a cellie named Stu who used to tell us about how they would, he's like, we would put the duct tape on the, you know, on the shake. And then we'd duct tape it around our hands. He goes, because you know how it is, Cox. You know how it is.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like, you know what happens, Cox?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I really don't know. They're horrible stories. Horrible. And I'm not going to tell you mine no more. Okay. Anyway.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I hate the guys that would come in from state and tell state stories.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I have to leave. These state stories are crazy, right? Because they usually put shit on them. They put shit on the knives or they'll have rust on them. Wait, wait. You know why? You know why they do that? Shit. Infect them.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Because if they just stick them a little bit, they're dying within a few days.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
And if you catch somebody off the basketball court, he's fresh out of playing basketball and that blood is flowing. So what you got right there is a cool case. Stick them really quick and he'll bleed out faster. Infection. And then you got the rest. The rest will also... These are strategized ways... of hurting another human being. Horrible. Horrible.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Like, what kind of system do we got when we actually have this implemented into our system saying that? I hate cocks, man, when they say, Victor, do you feel you were rehabilitated? I said, I go, first of all, I take offense to the term rehabilitation because to be rehabilitated assumes that you were rehabilitated to begin with. In my case, that's not the case. I come from chaos. I come from shit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
I don't know nothing else. Show me another way and I'll do it. I don't fucking know how. How do I make you guys understand that I do not know how? I...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
i got my driver's license first time at 37 you know i didn't even know how to fucking drive a car man my po wanted me to pay back my fines and i'm like i can't even get a job i don't got a bike what are you talking this is my first time out here in 20 years did you get a driver's license like when you were leaving
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Um, how long, I mean, do you, at some point, like, what are you doing for, you know, I mean, I understand you're in survival mode, but what are you doing for money? Are you burglarizing houses?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Did you get a driver's license in prison? No, fuck no.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
There ain't no driver's license in prison. Well, no, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
In Coleman, they don't do it anymore. They had something called the flow bus, which was the Florida, Florida, FL flow, the Florida bus. It was a drive for the driver's license. I actually walked out of prison with a driver's license. What? Right. The effort that you have to go to, to do that. And people, people don't realize like, they're like, oh, you're in the, you went out to the halfway house.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Oh yeah. So you, they don't realize like, no, you don't understand the agony, the effort it takes. You get to the halfway house and they think, oh, well you go get a job.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
No, no.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
I have to get a driver's license. First, I have to order all my documents. Oh, you go get a driver's license? Social security. So birth certificate.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Birth certificate.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Proof of residence.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
How do you even get that when you first come out? Don't even know. How do you utilize a fucking phone, right? So when I came out, I was trying to find, okay, I'm going to go. I literally thought that to apply to a job meant you had to go to the spot. Mm-hmm. So I would go, I'm like, well, I'm going to go job searching, guys.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Walking from place to place, and they're like, yeah, we don't take applications like this, sir. You got to email us. I'm like, how do I use the email? I don't even know how to use email. I don't have an email. You know what I'm saying? So it's like the simple things that people don't really realize when you're not a part of this world. You're not a part of this world.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Are you pretty much? Okay. I'm out there. Yeah. All right. I mean, we're out there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
You can be in a room full of a million people and still feel alone.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Mm-hmm.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
And I didn't call home until I found my wife. Because when I met my wife and we were actually out here hanging out, I could cuddle with somebody, talk about all my bullshit and cry and hang out with her kids and just chill. That was me coming home. I didn't realize, man, Matt, what was wrong with me until I came out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Is it drugs robbing?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
i was only able to out i was only able to figure out what was wrong with me when i came home because when i came home um i realized i got major ptsd brother what year was this uh it was 28 months ago i want to say 2022 yeah yeah yeah 2022 or 23 something like that did they send you to a halfway house Um, no, I was in a homeless shelter, bro. So I went with, with, with my brother.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
stealing alcohol robbing people um purses purses were a thing so we would go in a go into cars still like speakers and uh like the radios because back back in the day there was like flip faces you know so you you can you
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
I didn't have family, man. So I, everybody forgot about me. Nobody was there for me. I came out, found my brother and it was like, what the fuck, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
What do you mean you came out?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Like what? I came out of prison.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Well, I know. I understand that. I'm saying like, I'm saying they, they let you, they, they literally let you like walk out the gate or they give you a bus ticket. Like, where are you going? Like, where do they think you're going when you leave here? They don't just don't give a fuck.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
They didn't give a shit. They don't give a fuck.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
No halfway house?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
No. Fuck no. They didn't even talk to me. They're just, this is your date. Get up. Roll it up. I was like, okay, cool.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
You don't have a counselor? Were you able to put in to get into a halfway house in your state?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
No, no. It was like, we're just coming home. Like, do you need something? No, we can give you some toothpaste, armpit deodorant. Aside from that, shit, well, good luck, Vic. You know what I'm saying? And so I came home and I was thinking like, okay, I'm with my brother.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
but he was drinking a lot so i'm like i want to stop drinking man but i couldn't stop drinking one because of the trauma that i went in there it was like every day that i woke up i would have nightmares you know what i'm saying and then like um
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
it was hard bro like dealing with with my crime because every time that i went out with with my brothers i would see places like my victim's house you know stuff like that and like that so i made it very real that i was out here dude you deserve to be out here um what do you do you know what i'm saying um How do you proceed? You know what I mean? So my brother was drinking.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
I was sleeping on his couch and I stayed there like for a year on his couch and I was trying to make ends meet. Are you working? Yeah. I got a job at a gas station. I was pumping gas.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Where somebody else pumps?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
You pull up and- I'm in Salem, Oregon, bro. We pump gas for people. Really?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
I wish they did that here. That's nuts. Yeah, we pump gas for people. For the exact opposite reason. For them, it's freezing cold. For us, it's like, I don't want to get in that heat.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Yeah. I don't want to get out here. Exactly, because I was pumping gas in the storm, in fucking ice, like ice cold storm, right? So we were pumping gas, but like, yeah, so I got there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Is that minimum wage? $13.75 an hour. 40 hours a week?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
No, it wasn't 40 hours a week. It was like 30. It was like 30? Because at 40, they have to pay for health insurance. No overtime because they don't want you to get that overtime. They're like, nope.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
And you're sleeping on your brother's couch.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
I'm sleeping on my brother's couch.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
You got a second job?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
No, that was it. I was trying to find jobs, bro. I couldn't find a fucking job.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
smash in the car break the wires and tear out the whole thing and get like 20 bucks you know what i mean 20 bucks at the at the swap meet and shit you know so we used to do that um that pretty much continued until i was 14 at 14 i ended up still in still in some beer and i was still in beer my father just beat my mother and i was angry um
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Wait a minute. I don't believe that. You're telling me that people don't want to hire a guy that just got out of prison for murder? That's ideal, right? Isn't that what every job application starts with?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
It starts off with, what did you do? Murder? Okay, nice meeting you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Thank you so much for coming by. You're such a nice guy. You know what's funny about that?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
is that do you know what has the lowest recidivism rate murder of course so you i mean and i don't mean because most people most people when i tell them that they're like because they don't get out no no recidivism has to do with getting out and thank you very much for that thank you for saying that there's almost no recidivism no recidivism getting out when you do 20 years 25 years
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Some type of realization occurs where you grow up, you're older, your mind, it changes. You know what I'm saying?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Drugs and fraud. Highest recidivism rates. Really? Drugs and fraud.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Wow. You know?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Yeah. Because these guys are used to making that, you know, it's the cash, it's easy money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
And that was a part that was addicting too, though. It was like the cash and the arrogance that goes with it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
You know, it's funny. My wife said, she's like, you know, it's funny. She said, what's better than the cash is the fact that now everybody respects you and you are the person everybody goes to. You're the person. She's like, you, you feel like a big shot.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Like my wife does that too.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
You're, you know, you're, she, she's like, cause she was a drug dealer. Right. So she's like, like, you're the person people are calling you all the time. Can you get me this? Can you help me with this? It's like, suddenly she's like, you're the big shot.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
i got i got i got banned i got banned from from my account right and my my poor wife was like victor you're still the big shot you're you your story is your story you can do this right and i'm like amazed at like how somebody could believe in me so much right because of like where i come from right um like my wife is like my biggest friend, like my biggest fan. You know what I'm saying?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
I just feel so loved, bro. You know what I'm saying? Not just that, but like my followers, like from TikTok, These are people that don't know me that come, come to my story on a live and like, hear my story and start talking to me and are like, Victor, this and Victor, that you are so inspiring. You did this and you do that. And I'm like, I told you what I did. You're still here believing in me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
I got fans like Emily and fucking Jen. These people come and they drop on me. Like they drop, they make big gifts. You know what I'm saying? And if it weren't for them, I wouldn't even be here right now. So if it weren't for somebody believing in me, I don't think that I could believe in myself. You know what I mean?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
But it's odd, right? Isn't it odd for people to say, like, you're inspiring and you feel like, the fuck did I do?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Why am I inspiring? That's my issue right now, Matt, is that how am I inspiring when every day I wake up to the furnace that was my life? You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know how that works.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
But people want it. They feel like, hey, if this guy can make a comeback or this guy can do the right thing and this guy can then to them, then they feel like their problems are small in comparison to a guy that has the stigma of a murder conviction, prison, got out. doesn't not only do you not have a driver's license, you don't have the documentation to get the drive.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
So it's the process of, I got to get my social security card. I have to have that ordered in. I have to get this. I have to get, and there's just to order it. And you have to, you have to get the document or documentation to show them to get your driver's license. Like I have to come up with the documentation to document myself, to get my birth certificate. Then I get that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
And I ended up stealing some alcohol from like the next door neighbor's store.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Then I have to go get my driver's license. Like that is a, a month long process of, to get those documents to be able to drive while you have no money, while you're living in a homeless shelter.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
So, so when I was in solitary, like for four and a half years, right. In solitary. So during solitary, you're, you have some time to think we have a lot of time to think, right. There was this book that I read, Victor Franco, Victor Franco is a master, right? But,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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there was um victor frank oh my gosh what is it man's man's search for meaning oh okay man search for meaning victor frank he's a amazing dude i wish that i could have got gotten the chance to meet this guy right but like uh the that he says and the other things that other people say too is like I used to read psychology, so philosophy, in order to find meaning.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
And there was this quote that was on there, right, that talked about Socrates and Plato. Socrates, Socrates was this dude for the wisdom. Plato was his student. And Plato would be like, hey, fucking, where do you get this wisdom and knowledge, Socrates? He thought that you could get it from one statement. Socrates, tired of hearing fucking Plato. He goes, get the fuck over here.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
I'll show you where I mean this, right? He grabs him, starts to drown him. Picks him up right as he's about to give his last breath. He goes, when you look for wisdom and knowledge the way your lungs were looking for air beneath that fucking water, that's where you find wisdom and knowledge. I think my life... has been that I've been beneath water. I didn't have a choice.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
kind of crazy too man because she would be the type that you know would get beaten up and then when we would try to stick up for her she would kind of come at us sideways for trying to stick up for her it was just weird you know what i'm saying do you have brothers sisters how many brothers
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
I had to figure out what the solution was. How do I become this? How do I change? What is it that I'm doing wrong? You know what I'm saying? It demanded of me. You know what I mean? It was a demand. It wasn't like a choice. You know what I mean? Like when you're put in a situation where you're doing life in prison,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
when you come to the conclusion that the whole society has gotten together and deemed that you should be executed, you start realizing what's wrong with me, man. Um,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Yeah, there has to be something wrong for society to have decided you can't be around us anymore. Yeah, you have to be over here.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Like maybe you should be executed. You know what I mean? Like people like you shouldn't exist.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Even if they put you in prison for six months, you've done something that's so antisocial that you can't be in society. Society has said you need to go have a little, you need to go have a time out and rethink this. We don't want you around us.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
And when people get released from prison, the truth is it's just because they serve their term of imprisonment and most of society still doesn't want them around. They just can't lock everybody up forever. So if you're smart, you go to prison and you kind of sit back and you think to yourself, how did I put myself here? Most people go to prison and think someone else put them there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Get the fuck out of here. Do you think it's maybe the fact that you robbed the bank?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
It could have been the fact that you pew-pewed somebody right there in the front lawn. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? There's other factors for sure. Like me, bro, like I understand now fully. For the first time, though, it's weird, is that I understand I was a bad dude, bro. Like my mind. Now, do I have a reason for it?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
maybe perhaps, but there's this quote that said, I've striven not to laugh at any human actions, not to weep nor to cry, but to simply understand them. When you understand me, you can understand that there were situations that weren't easy, you know what I'm saying? And that I made the best decisions given those situations. It wasn't until I actually
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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came out of that concept where I actually started realizing another life exists. I have a choice. You know what I'm saying? I have a choice. This is my chance. I have a choice to show people who the fuck I am. You know what I mean? Am I a convict, a murderer? No. I'm a loving person, caring person that wants to care for people. Like, genuinely love people, you know what I'm saying?
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
And it's something that I was deprived of, man. I didn't have that, you know? So my victim's family actually sued me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Is this as soon as you got incarcerated or during the period of time?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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2011, after I was incarcerated. How long? A few years? They sued me maybe like seven years. Okay. Yeah. And what happened? They ended up taking the farm that we did this in. They took the farm, and I don't know what happened.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
So, I mean, you owned the farm?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
No, that was the farmer's. But the farmer that snitched on me, he admitted that that was his farm.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
So you were included in the lawsuit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I was included in the lawsuit. I was sued for $400,000, I think it was. And my cousin was sued for $800,000. But after 10 years, if you don't pay a dime back, they actually, that's excluded. It falls off.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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thank god because i had no idea i thought that i was going to be done like if i ever made money which is another part right like if you have money you're pretty much screwed because of the cops and then so they want to take your money you're not going to be successful you know
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, if you're owed money for whatever, for a lien or something, a judgment, they can continually come after everything that you have for the length of... Well, typically, a lot of times they'll... They'll dissolve after like 10 or 20 years or something, but I think federal it's 20 years from the time it was filed. But I don't know what it is for.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I don't know what a civil, a simple civil lawsuit. I don't know if it's 10 years or if they can go back to the court. And I know they can typically go back to court and refile it, but. So you're saying there was $400,000, they took the farm. I wonder if the farm covered the whole thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And then they sued the apartment complex that it happened in. Okay. They sued them as well. I wonder how they're saying that they're liable. Because I wasn't on the lease. Somebody else was, but I was paying the manager cash so that he can turn the other cheek and allow me to live there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But you didn't you didn't participate in that. You didn't fight the lawsuit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You got served.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You were like, whatever.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I didn't care because I didn't think that I was coming home. Yeah. So I was kind of in that mode where I don't give a shit. Right. But I was like, that's a joke, because I really didn't think that I was actually coming home from prison. Like, I didn't think that I was going to actually make it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, I mean, I've met lots of guys like that, where I met a guy. One time I've talked about this guy, this guy really, this is the guy I've met, like the first day I got locked up. He had horns on his head, tattooed horns, and I'm just tats all over his face. And I said, and I was like, bro, like after I talked to him for like, four or five days, one day we were talking, he seems so normal.
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And one day I looked at him and I went,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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you seem like a nice guy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
And he was like, okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
And I go, what's with the fucking horns?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And he goes, he started laughing. He goes, well, I got 15, I think he got like 10 or 15 years in a state prison. He said there were guys being killed every week. He said two weeks. He said like, there's like, I forget how many murders in the state prison, whatever it was. He goes, and I genuinely didn't think I was coming home. So he said, you know, I had a buddy who did tattoos.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
He said, and one day I said, you know what would be cool? Tattoos of horns on my head. He goes, and we found a picture. I said, yeah, like that. He goes, he tattooed them. He said, I already had some tats on my neck. And he said, the thing is, is he got to a point where after 15 years, he was being moved to the feds for like five years.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
He's like, now I realize, he's like, I'm coming home and I'm stuck with tattoos all over my face.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
So I was going to get tattoos. My whole neck and my head. I used to shave my head. Right. So my head was going to be all tatted back. Right. But the day that I was going to move into the do sale to start. Right. I got got in got in a prison riot. And that's why these aren't aren't aren't.
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finished actually finished yet so that's that's a bite mark right here from the cell fight motherfucker grab grab my fucking grab my tattoo off and i just bro i laid his ass down and i felt so bad about it bro like i woke him up with cold water um he was unconscious bro like he was unconscious he was like completely gone like
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
blood all over like scattered on the wall and shit like it was it was dark man did you did he did you lose a chunk of skin i sure did yeah yeah of course i did look at that i hit him so hard that it split right here in half it was like a a piggy bank in the front and his eyes were like
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
completely black I used to fight a lot so I was like practicing like MMA type of shit you know what I'm saying so that's the type of shit that I went to like for elbows and shit you know what I mean and that's what it was bro like when I got in a fight with somebody it wasn't like alright you're gonna beat me up and then we're gonna call it good I'm thinking like if you fight me you put your hands onto me
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Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
I'm going to try to cut your life very short. You know what I mean? That's the thing about these dudes on different podcasts that talk about like, oh, yeah, well, big dudes have it better in prison. No, they don't. It's about who has the least to lose, you know? That's the most dangerous individual in prison. It's not about how big you are, how much muscles you have. It's about...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
That small guy right there that doesn't have no soul behind those eyes, I guarantee he's going to kill you. You know what I'm saying? Or he's going to unalive you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Sorry. What was the thing? The guy you've got to be worried about is the quiet kid in the corner.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
You know what I'm saying? Because that's a dangerous-ass kid. Let me tell you, you know what I'm saying? And I know because when me, I was this dude that was really kind to people. And when it came to like somebody talking shit or something, I'm like, all right, cool. But when it gets times to actually be there, you know what I'm saying? I'm like.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
we're not going to have that altercation where like, okay, cool, man, you win. I shake your hand and we're all good, bro. You punch me in the face and we're, we're all good. You know what I'm saying? It's like, no, we're going to have the altercation. We're going to make it extremely bloody. And if we exist afterwards, so be it. If not, well then so be it as well. You know what I'm saying?
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Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
And like, that's, that's the way it was. You know what I mean? But when you come out of here in this world... It's vastly different. Not too many people are about that, bro. You're like, what the fuck?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
This is a civilized society. Thank God they're not.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Yeah, thank God they're not, right? Because you're thinking like... Oh, this is what human beings need. This is what humans being human beings do. Like, you know what I mean? It's like, you don't want the world world to be like that. Like, you know what I mean? People care for each other out here.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
It was, it was, it was like a hood store, you know, like a bodega or just something.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
People like give hand waves and, you know, like, you know, they stop for each other, open up, up the, up the door. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
for each other um like you see a homeless well i do i give them five bucks i'm like of course there's five bucks bro you know what i'm saying um that's a life that i didn't have no idea about bro you know what i'm saying um god's being good man to me you know what i mean so what are you doing now full time I'm doing these lives, TikTok. So, guys, Victor Gonzalez, 0511, Resilient Minds.
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Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
It was, it was, it was, no, it was, it was, it was like a smart mart or something like that. You know what I'm saying? Um, so we walk in there, it was an Asian store.
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Another shameless plug.
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You know, you got to. How often are you doing these? I do lives every single day. It's been one of the coolest parts to actually talk to your community of people. And it's not about you, like, talking about prison. It's more like a counseling session for me, like, talking about my past growing up, you know. You talk about to these people who have... Bro, they believed in me since day one.
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Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Like, I got usernames in my head. Candace Foster. That Michelle. Sophie. You know, everything Emily. Like, these are old school mom. These are followers that have been down for me since day one.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
These are all women. Do you understand what my wife would do if I was like... My wife is very good at it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
She's like, you know what? They support you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
You're good. I'd be terrified of my wife, bro. She would be like, if I came in and said, Emily sent me $200, or I was talking to Emily on the phone, she'd be like, what?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
She's like, hold on, just let me get my sandal right off really quick, and we'll get back.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
yeah bro it's crazy right but they send you so it's like it's cool man to see like it it validates you bro because you're like you know like you feel like maybe i'm not such a better person maybe i could be a part of this community where people care for each other and you don't have to actually respond with aggressive violence like what the fuck is that you know what i'm saying like no man we can't you know what i mean um fucking trauma man you know
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
um so we go in there i still beer come out i ran out we still the 12 pack we end up going back still another 12 pack and my father still hasn't arrived so we were actually waiting for my dad i wanted to serve him up i wanted to beat my dad's ass you know After that, the third time, we kind of just walked in there, and I take out a knife, and I walk in.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Yeah, and we were talking about TikTok or you starting a YouTube channel. Have you started a channel?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
I have, but I want to get it started. So it started right now. I really wasn't sure what I was doing yet, but I'm like barely starting it off. Victor 20 piece. Victor 20 piece. Victor 20 piece. It's kind of a long name, you know what I'm saying? But that's what I'm saying. I'm barely figuring these things out. Like, I don't know how to do it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Like, with the TikToks, we were out here having a moment at the coast, and somebody's like, are you Victor from the live, TikTok live? I go, I'm Victor. He goes... Bro, oh my gosh, that's so cool to meet you. I was like, really, dude?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It is the coolest thing, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
that's victor babe the one you've been following the whole time i was like oh dude oh that just melt my fucking heart man you know what i'm saying that's cool for sure because man i stay humble bro i got these stupid glasses and all that shit to do this but if you catch me at home i'm pretty much not doing that i'm kind of just with sandals hanging out at home you know you know
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
having some tacos, you know, pretty much.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
So what do you think? So you're kind of figuring out the YouTube?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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um yeah yeah we're doing a book right now too a book and a uh documentary um the book is where i'm hoping to make some phones i don't know i'm still not that rich guy but i'm hoping to have a place like this man this is pretty nice yeah this is pretty cool i think it's above a homeless shelter um Pretty cool, bro. These mics are pretty bad.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
It's so funny. Our equipment is slowly upgraded, upgraded, upgraded.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Son of a bitch. He never fucking paid a dime. I was like, you motherfucker. All right, cool.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Listen, bro, we don't, I don't, that's, listen, you know how many people have been, have told me like, hey, can you this? No. No, there's a benefit to you coming here.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
I bet you would feel some sort of way if I had a big platform with a million people. And then I'm like, hey, Matthew, do you think maybe you could afford a flight?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
You know who Michael Franzese is?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Michael Franzese is a guy who's got like a million something. He's a former mobster. He interviews people. He's in California. I flew out there and did his podcast. I paid my own ticket, paid for my own hotel, paid for my own Uber.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Matt, it would have been cool because you can. But when you're in a homeless shelter.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
I hear you. But at that time.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
That's what pissed me off. You know what happened?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
You know when I flew out there? So when I did soft white underbelly.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Mm-hmm.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Mark.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
You were on soft white.
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Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Of course.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Mark.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
I'm like that. Of course. Mark.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Oh, you're a triple OG category six. All right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
I went, I flew out there. Do you know where I was living when I flew out there? I was living in someone's spare room. I paid my own flight, paid for my own hotel. You should have seen it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
It's actually funny.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
The hotel was actually in downtown LA. It was like a refurbished hotel. It was super inexpensive. Um, And I thought it was going to be a shithole, but it wasn't bad. Amen.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
You know, man, honestly, bro, coming from the shelter... i think that um you earn what you put in and i think that you know uh coming here here with you was one of the highlights man super super cool like i'm here with you like with matthew cox i'm sitting here with the math i blew you up on my tick tock i'm like guys Follow Matthew Cox. We're going to Florida. We're going to be on Matthew Cox.
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Everybody follow Matthew Cox. And so cool.
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When this comes out, we'll have to make sure and tell you so you can go on and try and push the push the shit out of it. Hey, you guys, I appreciate you watching. Do me a favor. Hit the subscribe button. Hit the bell. So you get notified of videos just like this. Also, we're going to if you go into the description box, we're going to leave all of Victor's links to his tick tock.
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I pull out the knife, and I walk in, grab the beer. I walk out, and I was 14.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
all of his social medias, YouTube, everything. So you can go down there, click on it, go there, follow him, subscribe. He's going to be having content come on YouTube. He's going to be interviewing other guys that have done Prison Time, guys that have interesting stories, stories of redemption. Once again, I really appreciate it. Please follow him. Thank you very much. I appreciate it so much.
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See ya.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
What does the guy say?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
He comes out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
He sees you? This whole time, has he seen the other thefts?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
He's seen the other thefts. He tried to chase me. And they called the police? Even if he did try to chase me, I think he understood that I wasn't stopping. Right. He did try to call the cops. But the third time, I walk in there and I'm kind of just grabbing. This is stupid, right? Because I'm sitting there. I know he's going to call the cops, right? Yeah, but I didn't really care, you know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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i'm the youngest of five brothers the brother that was close the closest to me when he was two years old he was playing in front of a pot of boiling water and he was out there playing with it and i guess something happened the handle was protruding from the in the kitchen and it kind of just spilled on his head and it peeled back his skin um He ended up paralyzed. From that accident?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
I go in there, grab some beers, whatever it is, and then come out. And he ends up saying something like, yo, take it all, take it all. That's what I remember him saying. And taking that knife out, I had a butterfly knife. So the butterfly knives that... Yeah. The switchblades that come out really quick. And yeah, that's what I had. And then... I ended up getting armed robbery in the first degree.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
When did the cops show up? I got completely away from the whole crime. Two months later, I'm out there stealing car stereos, and then the cops catch me, and then they hit me up, and they tell me that they're going to charge me with...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
armed robbery one where were you on yeah they got warned for your arrest for the other thing right they just hadn't caught you yet exactly exactly so i ended up doing like two years in where in juvenile jdh uh so mclaren nice place yeah beautiful place man listen so from my understanding the juvenile facilities are typically harsher than like, you know, because yeah, what's so crazy, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Is that there wasn't like, like the politics, like prison politics. It was like, they just wanted, every kid was fucking crazy. Like they wanted to fight, you know what I'm saying? And every kid wanted to fight. So it wasn't like prison where there's rules, you know what I'm saying? Like where there's like, all right, bro, you can't touch that guy because the homeboys got that dude.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
So you can't touch him. Or if, if you're in the, in the, in the same gang,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
like you can kind of navigate you can navigate safety exactly in prison that you can't navigate when every single kid's ready to swing jdh you can't do that you know what i mean because the kids were like boom boom boom boom they were scrapping you know what i'm saying gladiator schools right gladiator school i watched the kid get dropped he was he was he was this kid it was like so
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When they shut the dorms at night, right, there's one guard. There has to be two guards in order to open up that cage and go in the dorm. So that was the time the kid chose to actually fight because he knew that there had to be two guards. Nobody's coming. So they would have to actually escort somebody In the dorm. Like to actually stop it. This dude picks up a kid. Body slams him. On a fucking.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
On a bed. So the bed has like four points. Right? It's like an old bed. Like those beds. Beds with little. I forget. It's like little. uh springs or springs or it's each bed has like four points it's like these little square pieces well this kid dropped them on top of the fucking spring
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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him up bro like that shit like went right through his back you know what i'm saying um that's the type of shit that you see see when you're in there you know what i mean um yeah when i got out i was 16 years old so that's that's what i went through at 16.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
You go back home. Are you on probation?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a K*ller (What Nobody Will Tell You)
Went back home. Went back home. Shit, they let me back home. And then when I went back home, I really didn't want to be at home. You know what I mean? At that point, everything was a struggle. I didn't have a job. Couldn't... There was no school. There was no reading. You know what I mean? There wasn't shit. So I was just stuck at that point. That's when we started to sell drugs. So...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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what i mean how does how does that happen like who who comes to you and says hey this is the way to go or here's what we can do and so we started slaying him man when we were kids man we started slaying so we ended up robbing some people so they had some and then we ended up robbing those people
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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got some ounces and stuff like that selling ounces like to everybody so so we started to make money from that and then we started to find a plug and then that plug that's what changed our lives is that plug so we found people coming back uh back from mexico is this just for green
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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green and cane okay so we started off with green uh we started ended up man that one moment where we actually did that it started moving from like uh ounces to like pounds and then it started moving to like hundreds of pounds um we were pushing like
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
WILL JAY-Z GO TO PRISON!? | Prison Expert Explains
Really quick, you guys keep referencing this lawsuit with Courtney. Is there a lawsuit?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
WILL JAY-Z GO TO PRISON!? | Prison Expert Explains
And he says specifically, he says, maybe if O.J. dies tomorrow, that will come out. He says that very specifically. If O.J. dies tomorrow, maybe something will come out or maybe they'll run with it then.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
WILL JAY-Z GO TO PRISON!? | Prison Expert Explains
No, that was just the part in the middle. But it was – yeah. It was edited and just put on standby basically.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
WILL JAY-Z GO TO PRISON!? | Prison Expert Explains
It was, no, it was the day before.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
WILL JAY-Z GO TO PRISON!? | Prison Expert Explains
Oh, you dropped it the day before? I got the day before and it did okay and stopped. But then, remember, you called me the next day. Wow. After the video had already turned off. I thought he dropped it. That's how much I paid attention.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
WILL JAY-Z GO TO PRISON!? | Prison Expert Explains
for that 24 hours already done. And then, um, yeah. And then, and then Matt called me. He's like, you'll never believe this. And then sure enough, it just picked up a second leg.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
WILL JAY-Z GO TO PRISON!? | Prison Expert Explains
It was sitting in the YouTube studio for like two weeks. It just so happened. It's whoever's video before it failed. It's really their...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
WILL JAY-Z GO TO PRISON!? | Prison Expert Explains
doing the timing is is important kind of what you're talking about the will smith video earlier when will smith slapped chris rock i had a little parody channel and i just like it happened at like 11 o'clock at night and i uploaded an eight minute video explaining why it was all staged immediately after and it's the channel like 20 000 subscribers and it got like 300 000 views overnight
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
WILL JAY-Z GO TO PRISON!? | Prison Expert Explains
And we've noticed with trending topics, the in-person versus stream yard isn't as important. Correct.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
WILL JAY-Z GO TO PRISON!? | Prison Expert Explains
But if somebody's telling their own story,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
WILL JAY-Z GO TO PRISON!? | Prison Expert Explains
it almost has to be in person because like it's if they're just telling they're just a normal guy who doesn't have that celebrity clickability and it's just going to go off their quality if you're just going strictly off the guest i i do believe that he's at 391 right now oh wow yeah so that was just posted that's today yeah i haven't checked we're comparing stats network now
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
WILL JAY-Z GO TO PRISON!? | Prison Expert Explains
Yeah, we definitely should if you, I don't know how, you know, like sharing guests, booking guests.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
WILL JAY-Z GO TO PRISON!? | Prison Expert Explains
That happened one time at five o'clock and Matt's like, leave me here with this guy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
WILL JAY-Z GO TO PRISON!? | Prison Expert Explains
You have 800, 900,000, but it hopefully gives you... It's not going to help him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
WILL JAY-Z GO TO PRISON!? | Prison Expert Explains
The trending topics is something that we decided we need to focus on a little bit more.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
WILL JAY-Z GO TO PRISON!? | Prison Expert Explains
Matt was talking to me for about, every time I come over here, you know, I get here about 30 minutes before the podcast starts. And every time.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
WILL JAY-Z GO TO PRISON!? | Prison Expert Explains
And you're pumped too. He just... I was hoping we'd get... He goes on the Tom Segura, the podcast does better.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
WILL JAY-Z GO TO PRISON!? | Prison Expert Explains
He told me about one this morning that was pretty good.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
By getting people to send you watches... That you've already admitted that you... Who know that you don't pay people. That's delusional. Yeah, he was gone at that point. And you're clearly a drunk. So I'm going to send drunk... A drunk thief.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
It just depends on how far the government wants to go into it. Sometimes the government will, if it's readily available, they can pull it back, but if the guy's going to argue... A lot of Ponzi schemes... people don't realize is let's say I'm one of the original investors. I put in a hundred thousand and I end up over the next three years getting out 300,000.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
A lot of people think, oh man, you're lucky. You were pulling your money out. You got 300,000. No, once the Ponzi scheme collapses, the government will come in and say, you put in a hundred thousand, you got back 300,000. And you're like, right. They're like, we want the 300,000. And you go, no, no, no. And we'll split it up with everybody else. And you go, no, no, no, no.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
At the very least, I'm keeping my $100,000. And they'll go, no, no. That money went into the pool with everybody else's. It gets divvied up just like everybody else's. Give us the money back. Now, most people are so scared. of the government that they go, okay, and they give them the money. But what happens is if you sit there and say, no, I haven't done anything wrong.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
I was unaware of the Ponzi scheme. I'm not going to be a victim of the Ponzi scheme. I'm going to give you back maybe $200,000. And a lot of people, if they get a lawyer and they start fighting it, the government will come in and be like, okay, we'll just take the $200,000. You can argue with them. and say, I'm keeping this. And look, there are people that keep even more than the 300,000.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
I mean, more than the original 100,000 because they're like, no, I spent the money. I got this. I've done this. I'm not selling off all my stuff. I'm not. And so you end up negotiating $180,000. I'll give you back $120,000. I'm keeping $180,000. And you negotiate that. You argue. But most people just start selling. I'll sell my house. I'll do this. I'll do that. It's like, absolutely not.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
I'm not going to do all that. And there's really nothing for you to do unless you want to try and sue me civilly because I'm not a part of the criminal investigation. Right. Or the criminal case. Right, right, right. You want to sue me civilly? You want to go in front of a jury and say that I'm a 72-year-old person and that the government's trying to steal $400,000 from me?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You're trying to make me a victim. I'm lucky I'm not a victim. Now you're making me a victim. So what ends up happening is they just negotiate. And that's what typically happens. But people don't realize. They just think, oh, well, yeah, you're one of the lucky ones. Usually you're not one of them because usually people hand over all their money and then they get back $14,000.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You know, you don't have to do that. But yeah, there is a clawback where you would think the government, if they wanted to, they could go to the guy Marco and say, look, This guy sold you that vehicle for $10,000. That's a $150,000 Corvette. He sold it to you for $10,000 because he was desperate. Well, it was a part of this, and we want the money back. And, of course, they'll always threaten you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Or we're going to indict you for this and that. If he's smart and he says, look, I didn't know anything. The guy came to me. I gave him $10,000. I don't give a shit. I'm keeping the fucking thing. Sue me civilly. Most people wouldn't do that because they don't know any better. Like, to me, I'd do that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
I'd be like, go fuck yourself because I understand how it works and I understand I'm going to argue about this. I'm not in trouble. I haven't done anything. Right, right, right. And then they'd be like, well, could you, what could you give us? And then suddenly, oh, now, but they'll threaten you first.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
So, yeah, so that's why he probably got the car.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
That's so sad, you know?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
You did one with the partner?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Well, thank God. Because that's the first thing. Most people quit their jerk-off job. What's your favorite at Thanksgiving when they said, what are you most thankful for?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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thankful for he said well i don't have to jerk anybody off anymore enough watches there's no more this reddit page is called watches circle jerk it was posted on that's so i don't know but yeah that's uh that's crazy did you read the comments for the um the uh tom uh simon's video we did with the the woman
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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5.6 million dollars and we brought in greg who who has dealt with him in the past and is kind of a watch aficionado he's got a bunch of watches and he's brought some he's going to explain how the whole thing went down and we're going to get into it so check it out
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The guy kind of – the guy went up to her and was masturbating next to her. And some woman was like – because we were laughing about it. And it was – she was giving us hell in the comments talking about how the lack of – your lack of concern for that woman. And I was just like, oh, for God's sakes. I don't even know what happened. We were just having fun. This guy didn't touch her.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
He went and sat next to this chick on a plane and started –
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
you know taking pictures of her yanking she got up she obviously was though she got up and went and told the wait uh the stewardess hey there's an issue here this guy you know but people are upset because we weren't upset for her i'm upset for her how much how much time do you think someone like that gets on the airplane for doing like that like if you see an attractive woman you go up to her you tell her she's pretty did she see her did she see anything yeah she's she's he's
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
At one point he does cover himself up because somebody clearly sees it and then he sees them watching him and he puts his covers up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
This is federal, by the way, too, because it's in the air.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
What did he get, five days?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
And he got almost nothing. Maybe it was a long flight. It was like a $5,000 fine.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
couldn't finish that makes it so much worse um yeah so uh yeah but these none of these guys you know got any real time there's a bunch of them that were doing stuff like this none of them really got any time well they didn't get they didn't get the kind of time that old uh anthony here yes yeah so he's uh so how much of that will he have to serve well people people don't even know what he's been sent yeah we're not there yet so here's the thing so
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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$5.6 million. First of all, how long was he doing this to piss through $5.6 million? How long was he doing it?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
I mean, if he's still jerking people off, he'll be very popular. So what did he get sentenced to? He got sentenced to 70 months, which is just shy of six years.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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been to prison i mean i know he's done over a year before at least once so so every ever on the federal system every felony you have is a different criminal history right as long as it's a different oh i gotcha like let's say i get arrested for breaking into a store and so i get you know burglary and then you get you know two or three charges and let's say all three of them are felonies
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's one event. You say, oh, that's three felonies at three different criminal history levels. It's not. It's one event. So for every new event that you have, as long as there's a certain period of time separating them, like if it's a spree, like a crime spree where you went on a crime spree and you robbed or you stole five cars over the course of three days, they'll consider that spree, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
But whatever. There's a significant amount of time between these sentences which I'm assuming one DUI and then six months later another DUI and then three months later, they're going to say each one of those is a different, unless they were consolidated. So every criminal history, every felony he has for a new DUI is going to be a different criminal history level.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So if you're saying he's been arrested, he's probably got three felonies. He's probably in criminal history three or four. You could have used a judge like his.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
two three times what he took and got way longer than two or three times what he got oh yeah no no without a doubt i i did not get i didn't think i got that fair shake but um so he's got he ends up with 5.6 million he's in criminal probably in criminal history three or four That's a problem. Like every criminal history that you go up bumps your time up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Cause I knew a guy that had no felony conviction that got, I think he stole like three and a half million dollars and he ended up getting like, I think it was just shy of three years. Yeah. And he complained the entire fucking time about like you stole three and a half million dollars. You have to do three years like that's not to me. That's not a bad gig.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
He to me, that sentence that he got is fair.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Million bucks. Well, yeah, a million a year. Yeah, that seems fair to me. You know, so I mean, think about it. Most people, they keep in mind, they say, oh, he's got to pay that back. What does it matter? You go on, he goes on probation for two years and maybe he's got to pay two or $300 a month for two years. And then when he's off, he can just say, go fuck off. And now he still owes the money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
He's got a judgment, but there's no way for them to really collect it unless he ever buys a house and then, and then sells the house, and then it's got to be something that's titled for them to collect on. So he may never pay that back, and he may get out of prison and live a decent life.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Most people out there, if you're making $60,000 or $70,000 a year, and you went to somebody and said, look, would you go to prison for three years for $3 million? Now, you're going to owe the $3 million, but... You don't actually have to make the payments.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Now, if you ever buy a house and go to sell it later and you're supposed to make some money on it, then you have to pay whatever profit over to the $3 million. They would say, I'll go to prison for three years for $3 million. Most people would do that. You wouldn't do that, but most people aren't in your position. The average American would probably say, three years for $3 million?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You really think so? Yeah, absolutely. Listen, if you're in the comments, let me know. Because I'll bet you people in the comments are like, hell yeah, I'll do...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
I don't know if I had 3 million. Yeah. You could rent or if you have $3 million, I'm going to figure out how to buy a house. I could buy it. First of all, I got cashed. I could buy it in whatever I want to buy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
I gotcha. I gotcha. People, listen, you know how many guys I know that went to prison, owe money, went to prison, and the money is in their mom's name, their sister's name.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Oh, yeah, I got a house. It's in my baby mom's name.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
No, keep in mind, too, Belfort, what he did was he didn't make any money on The Wolf of Wall Street. He then wrote a second book called...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
No, no, it was like Catching the Wolf of Wall Street. So then he wrote that. No, you're talking about the sales book. He also wrote the sales book. So he ended up working out a deal where he's making payments to them. But also a lot of things that he did was he would have his – so the government at one point went – because what he did was at one point when the Wolf of Wall Street got big –
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
He was investigated by Inside Edition.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Not just that. It was the American version where he's walking through like a... They were following him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
I saw the one you're talking about.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Yeah, they catch him in the airport and they kind of ambush him with one of his former victims. And he's living in a $3 million house. He's playing tennis every day. He's driving around in a $200,000 sports car or something. And he's flying in private jets. They're like, hey, what are you charging now? We heard you're charging $30,000 for every time you do one of these courses.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
And he goes, well, now he said it's up to $80,000. So he's all being cocky. Yeah, they're like, okay, but you still owe $102 million in restitution. And he's like, oh, I and then he kind of bolts. He tries to take off on him. So, you know, the thing is, is that a lot of the stuff that he was doing, he would do in his which I think he recently got married, but in his girlfriend's name.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
So his girlfriend owns this. So so you're my girlfriend's managing me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Mm hmm.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
And so he gets a fee and they pay her management company and then he gets a fee.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Which is in a bad position for him to be in because if anything ever goes wrong, she's the one who's making all the money. She's the one who's got control of the money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
I really do. No, I would think you would want to pay something, but he probably realizes he's never going to pay that off. So he could work the rest of his life to pay off restitution and then die a pauper?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Or he has to juggle some things so that he can die and have at least a reasonable retirement. That's really what he's probably thinking is, I need to be able to retire in some reasonable fashion.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
At the very end when it's recommended, you can click on it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Well, what happens with restitution is once you're in that position and you're just fighting – You're the sentence, right? So you're going, hey, I just need to get as little time in prison as possible. So what happens is people out there might start saying, hey, they're calculating the restitution. You know what? I sent him an $80,000 Rolex, right? And he and I never I never heard from him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
And they'll say, well, then the government will do this. Eighty thousand dollars. Can you send us an affidavit? Sure. A notarized affidavit saying that's true. Absolutely. And somebody gets it and they go. All they do is say, yeah, this is what I sent him. Never heard from him. He didn't respond to my texts, my emails. And then somebody notarizes it. And guess what?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Now he you're part of his restitution. You have eighty thousand messed up, though.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
It is messed up, but the government isn't really concerned about restitution, and they're not really concerned about the people that you owe, and they're not really concerned about accurately gauging what you owe because the most prosecutors, no matter how much time they give you, they have such a, I'm a good person and you're evil, and I want to give you as much time as possible.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
There are, I'm sure, exceptions. Most of them...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Did we have that on the interview we did the other day where I talked about how My, my prosecutor, like, well, listen, like she wanted me to get as much time as possible.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
So she literally, I had been, I'd had like a, a home invasion. Like, just as just for an example, I had an home invasion. I had homeowner's insurance. So I claimed on my homeowner's insurance. Well, the policy, you have policy limits, right? So most people don't realize how their insurance works until they get robbed.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Yeah. Okay. So remember you said you had stopped it and seen that I had all these watches.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
I remember that, but I knew, I knew it was a few Rolexes. Um, so what happened is when you go to claim, um, for your homeowner's policy, when you go to claim against your homeowner's policy for a burglary, what ends up happening is this. Most people are like, oh, my two TVs got stolen. My computer got stolen. They just write it all down.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
They think I'm going to get, they're going to give me a check for $20,000 less $500 my deductible. What happens is they come back and they'll go, okay, well, your two computers were a total of $6,000. And your two TVs, that was another $2,000. And your, you know, this is how old I am, your VCR, you know, whatever.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
They took your VCR?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
No, but your disc, whatever. So you add it all up and you're like, okay, that's $12,000. They go, yeah, for electronics, we only pay up to $5,000. And they pay nothing on your jewelry. Oh, okay. Well, I don't know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
They're not going to give you your $10,000 that your Rolex was. I'll tell you that. They wanted to give us like $2,500. So when I realized that, I got the policy limits before... I contacted them. I said, I want a policy limit, see what my policy limits are. So I realized, OK, we can't tell them we had this much jewelry because they're only going to give us twenty five hundred bucks.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
We can't tell them this. So we pulled out the policy limits and I said, OK. Guns. We can get up to $5,000 for guns. So give me the names of some guns. So we started writing down guns, right? One of it was like an AR-15.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Well, I didn't know that. I hadn't been arrested. Yeah. Oh. I hadn't been arrested. This was before I got arrested. So.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
I was on the run, but I was living as.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Never been arrested? Joseph Carter, who the insurance company thought I was. Joseph Carter, who the insurance company thought I was, had never been arrested. He's not a felon.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Matt Cox on the run. So I'm Joseph Carter.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Sorry. I'm filling out a police report. So I list, you know, AR-15, two handgun. So we come to a little bit above the 25 or the 5,000, whatever it came to.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Same thing we did with the jewelry. We literally were maxing out, almost maxing out. Sometimes we're a little above. Sometimes we're a little bit less. But in the end, we're getting up to about $30,000. So at least I can get back close to what I recouped. Had I given them what really was taken, they'd give me a check for $6,000. Instead, I'm trying to get up to the $30,000.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
These people also took, by the way, cash. They would give us up to $1,000 in cash. These people took like $30,000 in cash. So anyway, we max everything out. Now, here's the thing. I get arrested by the Secret Service before I ever submit this policy or even submit this. But I have the claims form filled out. They get the claims form. They read the claims form.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
When I go to debrief with the Secret Service, the U.S. attorney says, oh, I'm sorry, I got charged. With a gun. It's called constructive possession. So it's a felon. Someone else has it or it's in the car or whatever. What they're saying is Mr. Cox owned a firearm that he had his girlfriend purchase for him. Now, that's not true. I never had a firearm. These firearms are all made up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
She did have a firearm that had been stolen, which was hers, which she had in a childproof gun safe. I'd never seen it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
I'd never touched it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Well, I did see it, but I'd never touched it. And so I argue I want to go to trial because all she has to do is get on the stand, and she'll say— That I told her, one, not to buy the gun. Two, I didn't think it should be in the house. And she had a kid. And if she was insistent on it, she should get a gun safe, which she did. I saw it when she came home. I saw the weapon.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
I saw her put it in the safe. I didn't even have the combination of the safe. Right. So I explained the other weapon. So I explained this to the U.S. attorney. The other weapons are complete fabricated. You can ask her. The AR-15, we just made up because I know they were selling at that time for like 1500 bucks. We were trying to hit the maximum that we were maxing out the policy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
I explained it to her. She goes, Okay, that's fine. I understand. She said, makes perfect sense. No problem. Just insurance fraud. Yeah, no problem. I'm already fucking facing a ton of, I got 20 felonies. So what does it matter? So she goes, okay, no problem. Now keep in mind, this is, she knows this. They've dropped the charges. She knows it's all bullshit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
She knows I didn't have any of these weapons. She knows my, talk to my girlfriend. She corroborated everything that I said. Agrees, no, he never had that weapon. Never this, never touched the weapon.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Mm-hmm.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
My handgun, which is no longer even there, never even touched it. She says, oh, the U.S. attorney knows that. I go to sentencing. The U.S. attorney gets in front of the judge and says, Mr. Cox was on the run for three years committing fraud, and Mr. Cox was in possession of, she says, a fully automatic AR-15, which isn't even a fully automatic weapon.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Right, right. She says he's in charge. He has a fully automatic, had a fully automatic AR-15. He had two handguns. He had his girlfriend says all of this. She knows the fuck up. That's all a fucking lie. Oh, but that's the kind of thing that the U.S. attorney will do. It's like I'm already looking at. 26 years, and you're going to lie to give me more time, try and get me more time?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
That's the kind of just, and I wish I could say, oh, well, she's the exception. No, she's the normal U.S. attorney. The exceptions are the ones where they say, like I had a buddy one time who literally his criminal history was off the chart. This kid had been arrested. He was probably 22, 23 years old. I want to say his name was Jeremy Kitchen. I don't know why I remember this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
I remember his co-defendant was named Michael Seagraves. Okay. Michael Seagraves was cooperating against Jeremy's father.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
And Jeremy and they were in the same cell. Now, of course, Seagraves the whole time is saying he's not cooperating, but he knew he was. Oh, that's horrible. Anyway, the point is that when Jeremy... Jeremy literally was looking at like 25 years. That's what his... his PSR said, his pre-sentence, sorry, his pre-sentence report said like 20, 20, 20, 25 years.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
When he went in front of the judge, he told the judge, one, he, The U.S. attorney wanted Jeremy to testify against his father. He wouldn't do it. He's like, absolutely not. He's my dad. I'll do the 25 years. It's like, wow, little gangster, right? His dad's selling. He's the biggest dealer in the area. They've got him. His dad's getting like a life sentence. He's going to trial.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
He's going to trial just because he's thinking. Maybe I'll win something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I might as well go. You guys are offering me 45 years. Yeah, they're offering him 45 years. And he's like, oh, I'll go to trial. Seagraves is going to testify. There's like 10 guys going to testify. He's done. The U.S. attorney is saying we want his son to do it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Now, his son says, fuck you, I'm not doing it. And so the U.S. attorney comes back and he goes, look, I have enough people. I don't really need you. I could be a dick and give you the 25 years. But the truth is, when I look at your PSI, you're a drug addict. Every one of your felonies is drug. You're selling low. You're a low level drug dealer who's trying to support his habit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's why your criminal history is off the chart. He's I'm going to do you a favor, Jeremy, because I feel bad for you and I feel bad about your father. And I know your family's been devastated by meth. I know you're this whole thing. He's like, I'm going to do you a favor. He's like, because I'm not a bad guy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But what this guy did was he created an entire business model on it, which was for him to, people were giving him watches on consignment. It started out pretty modestly. Did he go to prison? Like, was he already... He had already gone to prison, right? He'd been to prison multiple times.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
He said, when we get in front of the judge, I'm going to tell the judge, I think you should be sentenced to, you know, in the first category one instead of category seven, which is off the chart. He's like, because the truth is you're just a drug dealer. You're just a drug addict. You're not even a drug dealer because we've never caught you with it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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anything so does he do it he did it the kid got oh so he actually right he had to get 10 years because the mandatory minimum was 10 years what he had in the conspiracy he's like but jeremy he's like you know he told me he was going to do this and i remember thinking my lawyer was like he's going to do it but the truth is the judge could still give you 25 fucking years got the judge given the 10 years even the 10 years he when he came back he was like
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I can't fucking believe I'm getting 10 years. The other thing about Jeremy was this is what killed me. He was the guy, remember me? And I'll stop talking. He was the guy that told me. He was the first person that I remember hearing. He kept saying, man, I just want to go to fucking prison. I just want to go to prison. I just want to go to prison. Because he'd been to prison. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He'd been to prison. No, no. Because we were in Union City County Jail. It was hell. And everybody, we were miserable. Like literally the windows that they had, they had these thin windows that they had painted over from the outside. I mean, it was pitch black. There was barely any of the lights worked. It was like a dungeon in there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And I kept saying, bro, why do you keep saying you want to go to prison? And I was like, isn't prison going to be worse than this? And he goes, are you serious? He goes, bro, the first day you're in prison, he goes, I'll be walking the track. I'm going to have a pint of ice cream. I'm going to be able to take a hot fucking shower. He said, I'm going to have soup. I'm going to eat.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He said, prison is amazing compared to this. He goes, you're going to love prison.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Oh, yeah. So I remember thinking, that's insane. But then, of course, you go to prison, you're like, oh, I want to be sentenced as quick as possible. I want to go to prison. But he was the first person I remember kept saying that. He kept saying it. So anyway, but I'm saying... The prosecutors are horrific.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I don't think it's so much that there's innocent people as much as it's that— maybe you're guilty of something, but you pled guilty and you got a, that the amount of time they're giving away to people is, is outrageous. Like the idea that I think per the sentencing guidelines, $5.6 million and getting six years for a guy that's got been who, who was as egregious as this guy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I think per the sentencing guidelines, that's fair. That's where he found that. That's definitely fair. What, what do you got that per the guidelines? If you said, Matt, look on a, What do you think is fair as far as society and what would be most beneficial for society? I think this guy gets – he gets two years and you put him on an ankle monitor?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
You see what I'm saying?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
But for money to go to jail for five or six years over money, like I think if he got two or three years and then you put him on five years paper and watch him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You know what I'm saying? You watch him. Because to me, it's like you could – and then there's some guy who will do a home invasion or – Or, you know, somebody ends up dying and they get, you know, 15 or years. It's like, are you serious? Like, you've given this guy six and you've given this guy 10? And it's like, I don't know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
But I'm going to pay you. Yeah, he's a jackass. But I mean, if you're a jackass, and yeah, he stole money. But I don't know that five or six years does him any good. I don't think it does these other people. Maybe the point is, is get him out of prison. Let him start making restitution.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, but how long can you keep locking people up for? You can't just keep – every time you lock them up, go, this time 10 years, this time 20 years. I just don't know what the answer is.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like maybe I think three years and you put them on strict probation. I'd agree with that. Because let's face it. Then it's like if you give them like an ankle monitor and say, look, you're going to work. You get to go to work, the gym, grocery store, and to church. That's where you're going. And you're spending all your time there. Like you're walking around with that ankle monitor.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's a dose of humility. And guess what? You're not. And we're approving where you live. We get to see all of your checks. You get a regular job. Yeah. I'm working a W2 job making $65,000 a year. Or maybe worse, I can't even get that job. I'm making $45,000. I'm living in someone's spare room.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
You're a personal trainer. So, okay, even then, if he did that, that's fine. You can go to the gym and back. But even still, you're walking around with this ankle monitor.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
It's humiliating. I bet. As opposed to you going for six years, get out. You're maybe on paper for a year or two. They're not really watching you that much. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
No, I would like a nice band. You have a nice band. That's a nice band.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Yeah. That's crazy. That's the reaction. I'm just giving you the reaction. That's what you do in that situation. You do the what?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
They'll take the watch.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
You're losing your watch. having him be in possession of stolen property. You can't say, well, no, I legally paid for now. Now it's a stolen piece. We're giving it back to the, that's between you and who you bought it from.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Well, that guy's in jail already. Well, good.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Yeah. Now you sit, sit in an affidavit. You'll be a part of his.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Do you think he'll get out and try and do this again the right way? Or do you think he knows he's, you think he's blown his credibility?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, I think, speaking from the perspective of a washed-up U2 club, I think he's got— You were never—you don't have the makings to be washed up. I think what he could do is, well, one, so what he's going to—on 70 months— He gets 15% off for good time. Assuming he doesn't get in trouble, he probably won't. He'll probably go to a low. He'll go to a low.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Very quickly, they're going to move him to a camp. So he's going to end up in a camp where a lot of people get in trouble. Cause he's not violent, nonviolent. He's not a security risk. Like if you, if he did escape, he's not going to escape and go shoot up a mall.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
So, uh, they're going to fight, find them under a bridge somewhere. I'm selling this watch by the way. Uh, I got a blind. So, uh, he most likely gets 15% off for, so that's roughly a year off on 70 months. So now he's down to 60 months was five years.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Then he's going to get roughly 20% off of that because, which is roughly another year because he can program, they call it programming and he'll either work a job or take classes. He gets another 20 cause you can get like 35, 40% off your sentence at this point. So let's say he ends up doing 60%. 60% of 70 is 42 months. So 42 months, let's say he gets six months halfway house, which is reasonable.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Now we're down to three years. So he's going to do three years. So in three years, he's in a halfway house for six months. He's a good looking guy. He's going to hook up with some chick. He's going to get her to let him come and stay at sleep at her place. If you sleep hot at night, you know how disruptive that can be.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It's funny too because right now he's thinking his life's over and I'd do anything to be 36. Or 40. Or 45. Anyway. Your best years were 45. In prison. So he's going to end up He'll end up on probation, and like you said, he'll probably be a personal trainer. He'll probably go in there in three years. He'll get his personal trainer's license and all his little certifications and stuff, get out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The problem is making money the first time is the hardest. Making it the second time is much easier. So he's going to try and do something like this again. Hopefully he can do it the right way. If they watch him long enough— then maybe he gets humbled enough and he's okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And in three years when he gets out, he's reevaluated his life and realized that stealing money- Do you think he'll go back to YouTube? That's what I was gonna say. I think he'll definitely start a YouTube channel again. Although I don't think his YouTube channel was ever probably making him All that much money. He probably wasn't focusing on it to make money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So, no, it was all about just look at me. Look at me. I wonder what kind of views those videos were getting.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Anyway, so let's see. How many views, how many subscribers did he have? I don't know. How many does he have now?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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83,000. No, he's not.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
You're going to stay subscribed? Let's say he's got 100,000. Let's say he's putting out one video a week for an hour, and he's getting 100,000 views, and he's getting 25% watch time. That video is maybe making $500. So if he's doing that... And he's doing four of those a month. At best, he's making $2,000 plus another maybe $1,000 to $1,500, maybe $3,500 tops.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
And that's him doing all the editing himself. Because then if you have to pay somebody, you're done. It's over.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
He's doing a whole... What is it? Traveling a road show. What's the name of that? The road show where they would... Antique. Antique. You antique road show thing where they come, they show... And they're like, oh, what do you think? I think it's worth $60,000.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Turns out this is a fake and it's worth about $200.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
So I understand that. What I'm saying from here on out, if he were to get out and start over again, because he does have some cachet, right? He can go on other podcasts to tell his story. So let's say he started something in a genre like true crime, or maybe even if it was for him, it'd probably be like fitness or something, because he wants it to be all about him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He doesn't want to brand himself as a master criminal, because he couldn't possibly see himself like that. Most narcissists wouldn't dare... paint themselves into that portrait. You're a special kind. I'm special. So if he were to get out and start – so he'd have to start something over again. He could go on a bunch of shows, talk about what he's doing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
He could probably make $4,000 or $5,000 a month doing YouTube videos of some type. It might take a little bit, but that's probably it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
I'm saying it's not – Yeah, he could do courses.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
It's not going to pay what stealing. It's not going to pay what running a Ponzi scheme pays. That pays good money up until the end. Until it doesn't. But yeah, hopefully he goes to prison. He realizes that and he gets out and says, hey, I'm going to do something legit. Who knows? I should write him a letter. I can find him. We can look him up on the BOP.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Why do you keep looking like that? What do you mean? I'm not saying anything against you. Oh, geez. All right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Why would anybody spend 30 or $40,000 on a watch?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
right you know so and so what what they're they're you're paying for it for it's just prestige right it's like buying a mercedes like a a ford you buy a mercedes and a ford taurus is basically the same car yeah so yeah they're both going to do the same thing but um you know you'd rather have the mercedes i i do yeah i'd rather pull up in the mercedes than the ford taurus yeah you know so i like my mercedes and i like my watches yeah all right yeah
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
It's like dating a fat chick or a high-priced model. They'd both do the same thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
it's funny too when i listen the first like big lick that i made when i made like 80 grand or something yeah close something and boom i got a check for 80 i was like oh my god i went now i bought a rolex it wasn't much it was like 55 how's that back then 5500 bucks you walked to the store you paid 5500 i got an oyster i got um you know what i got was uh i think the explorer uh
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
No, I think I got like a very basic oyster perpetual white, the black face.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
The movie Leaving Las Vegas?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Oh, it's horrific, right? Like, I mean, it's a great movie.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Did you see that, Colby?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Oh, my God.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Yeah. Oh, was it 700K?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
He bought it for... Like, I bought it for $500 back in 1972. It was some specialty.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
All the paperwork still. He had everything.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
It's like the most heartwarming video. And when they tell him, he has no clue.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Okay. So now we're going to do the, and they wanted me, you posted on your social media.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
But a few people. Do you want, do you want, uh, do you, uh, do you want anybody to go to your social media where you're posting this crap about asking questions about me?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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they already are um your fans are all right matt this is where you're getting your you can your subscribers matt are coming from my social media i think you got something confused you should say you guys subscribe to matt i'll tell him that but put up my uh uh
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
We'll do that when it's the record.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Um, and you say with that much energy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Let me wrap it up and then you can wrap it up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
I'll wrap it up. I'll wrap it up my version and then you wrap up and say, hey, check out my interview. Yeah, okay. Right. So, hold on. So... Hey, you guys, I appreciate you watching. Do me a favor and subscribe to the channel. Hit the bell so you get notified of videos like this. Please consider joining our Patreon. And Greg has something to say.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And click on my video. Which way? Where's my video? We don't know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Wherever you point, we're going to put it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
It sounds familiar.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
A huge profit margin, unless you're really massively moving a ton of these things.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
I mean, and there's no fucking way you're making this off of selling fucking watches.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
So what happens? So I give you my watch and I say, hey, I want to get 60 grand for it or something. And then you've got to try and sell it for 70 so you can make 10. And you're holding it on consignment. And then at some point I say, listen, man, I just want my watch back. It's been four months. I don't think you're really trying to sell it. I probably do sell it on my own.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
And then suddenly you say, OK, I'll send it to you tomorrow. And then the next day you send me a text. Oh, my gosh, I was robbed last night.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Well, isn't that pretty much when the Ponzi scheme starts to unravel? Everybody says, hey, I want my stuff back.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
And you can't provide it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
Does he mention them?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Timepiece Gentleman Locked Up For $5M Scam | Insider Exposes Anthony Farrer Dark Past
You're pressuring me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I feel like that's not a fuck you. For a guy who's living in his mom's spare room who rides a bike on the weekends, I feel like that's a pretty good deal.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Dark Web Criminal Extorts Celebrities, Makes Millions & Shares Legal Loopholes
I thought you were going to tell me that. Thank God I didn't take it. It ended up being $2.5 million.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Dark Web Criminal Extorts Celebrities, Makes Millions & Shares Legal Loopholes
Pickup and dating industry. I've watched those videos. dating. I watched a few of those videos. Who did you watch? Some guy just, you know, he's walking around and just walking up to women and just talking to them and it was, he had just a few different approaches. I wish I could remember exactly, but that was basically it. He had these
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Dark Web Criminal Extorts Celebrities, Makes Millions & Shares Legal Loopholes
You know, honestly, he was just, the fact that, I didn't realize the fact that just, well, I mean, I did realize that a big part of it was just walking up and introducing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Dark Web Criminal Extorts Celebrities, Makes Millions & Shares Legal Loopholes
Yeah, that to them, the girl immediately thinks, holy shit, like this guy's super confident. He just walked up and said, excuse me, hey, can you, I'm just wondering, my name's so-and-so. Shake their hand. And they're just like taking him back. And next thing you know, they're like, this guy is confident. He's interesting. He's, you got it?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Dark Web Criminal Extorts Celebrities, Makes Millions & Shares Legal Loopholes
You got a big part of that whole battle beat just by doing that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Dark Web Criminal Extorts Celebrities, Makes Millions & Shares Legal Loopholes
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Dark Web Criminal Extorts Celebrities, Makes Millions & Shares Legal Loopholes
Yeah, this was the guy selling a program. Yeah, teach you how to walk up. Teach you how to walk up because the guys are shy and they don't want to be able to walk up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Dark Web Criminal Extorts Celebrities, Makes Millions & Shares Legal Loopholes
Yeah, I was going to say, I'm not sure what to say.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Dark Web Criminal Extorts Celebrities, Makes Millions & Shares Legal Loopholes
It's a money suit. Yeah. It's a suit made of $100 bills.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Dark Web Criminal Extorts Celebrities, Makes Millions & Shares Legal Loopholes
And at the time... And this is you making those videos?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Dark Web Criminal Extorts Celebrities, Makes Millions & Shares Legal Loopholes
A little bit more work.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, you could do all of it. You could do that like, hey, and I'll send you the book or hey, you can download the book.
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I mean, if you've been arrested and you're in jail, you can your lawyer should be allowed to bring you a change of clothes so you don't have to go in front of open court.
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In an orange jumper because when you're wearing an orange jumper you you look more guilty Mm-hmm, and especially if you're going to trial if you're going to trial There that your lawyer will be like look you you need to wear they'll try and assist some guys are like I don't give a fuck I'll wear about the orange jumps like they don't care.
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Yeah but they typically always want to dress you out nicer so that So that there's not a bias from the jury as to you look like a criminal. You're in an orange jumpsuit. You look like, you know, they want you clean shaven and in a pair of khakis and a nice long cleave shirt and try and cover up the tattoos. And that's a better look. It at least makes them think it's possible.
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This guy looks like a normal citizen. He doesn't look like a gangster.
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I mean, that's just that. But, I mean, everybody gets in front of the judge, and they all try and downplay what they did, and they're sorry, and they're this, and they're that. I think the judge has heard it. They're so... They're so callous and they've heard it all. They're jaded.
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They've seen these guys come and cry their eyes out and apologize and beg for forgiveness and you'll never see me again. And then six months later, they go to jail for two years, they get out and six months later, they're back again. So they get like, I've heard this so many times.
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the opposite yeah she's like that that could be like that could harm you in this situation and i mean she didn't make me look like a slob or anything but it was i was just like oh shit i would have totally just walked in there and she's like yeah you kind of look like an arrogant prick it's like oh i can see somebody wearing it if i if i was a judge and you walked in you had a like a three-piece suit on and just you know you look you had suspenders or something he'd be like oh this guy's a douchebag like yeah but if you have slacks and a long sleeve shirt and
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There's a lot of weird stuff.
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Yeah, I was going to say, that's the most, like, what's the worst thing you ever saw? It's not, like, walking outside with two guys having sex or anything like that. Like, did that happen every once in a while? You'd walk or you'd... Is that in the bathroom? Four feet in a shower stall, and you're like, oh, man. But, yeah, I would say that the... Was pretty yeah, you know that is weird.
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Yeah, that is probably pretty weird to see you seeing two guys No, no, it was I was in the library in the medium and there was probably 20 or 30 guys in there and it probably held 60 or something there was it was never full like you went to the low filled all the time but the medium it wasn't so I'm in there writing like some guy's story and Working on some stuff.
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What's the medium the medium security prison? Okay, so I'm sitting in the library writing and There was a gay guy. They call him a punk, right? I guess I'm transgender now, right? Because it was a dude that looked like a woman, whatever, believed. I don't know what the political thing is, as you say. Anyway, in prison, he was a punk. And listen. He looked. trick you. You could be a bad knight.
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Little thin braids, super thin, dainty, not dainty, probably 5'8", 5'9", but I mean super skinny, right? And was looking at a Vogue magazine. And I mean... It's just like a whole act, right? Yeah. And, you know, but whatever, they're there. You know, listen, you're going to meet them. You got these guys walking around. They've got boob jobs. They've got, oh, yeah, it's insane.
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So anyway, I'm going to go. She was sitting there. doing our thing, and I'm writing, and this guy came walking into the library, who'd never been in the library before in his life. He was six foot plus, jacked up. I mean, looked like he was on steroids. He was massive. And he walks into the library. As soon as he walked in, everybody was like, everybody looked up, like, holy shit.
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He walks right up to the punk, and he goes, Baby, can I talk to you outside? And she just keeps turning the page. Baby. Baby, please. And then he kind of looks up to look around who's speaking. And everybody's looking like this. We all look down. We're terrified. You know, a bunch of soft guys in the library, and this guy's a massive.
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And then he says, baby, baby, can I please talk to you outside? Baby, please. Baby. And I mean, it was humiliating. And then he goes, baby, please, and put his hand on her shoulder. And she goes, ha! He was like, don't touch me. No, no. First he said, as he's flipping, the guy, he looks up and he goes, I like the way you talk to me in front of your friends. And he goes, baby, please.
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Baby, please can I talk to you outside? Baby, please. And he goes to put his hand on and she goes like that and goes,
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And he's like, Baby, please! Baby, please! Can I talk to you outside? Baby, please! And I mean, it was the most fucking humiliating thing I've ever seen. I've never been so overwhelmingly humiliated for another person in my life. Finally, the punk gets up. They walk outside. Then the punk comes, you know, sashaying back in. Five minutes later, sits down.
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The guy comes back in, head, you know, Baby, please! Can I talk to you? Baby, please! Let me talk... It was a fucking horrible moment. It was...
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It was a lover's quarrel. And, and, and it was so bad that like when the guy left and when I saw the other guys in the room, we didn't even laugh about it. Like, it's not like, bro, that was crazy. Right. It was just like, I just felt like, wow, like that was the, I felt bad for that. I was horrible, humiliating. But yeah, so it was, it was, it's an, it's an odd place. Odd things happen.
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Uh, oh, um, I mean, they have what they call holiday meals and they would, they would feed you like a, um, and they have hamburger day. which is like Wednesdays is hamburger day. They give you, used to give you hamburgers and French fries. I don't know if they still do, but not great hamburgers. Um, but it's still a hamburger and it's still French fries.
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Uh, and then they have holiday meals and you would get like, you know, Oh no, they get fried chicken every once in a while. Probably once a month you got fried chicken. It could be really good. Uh, and then on holiday meals you would get like a real, like a real, like meal, like a meal, like, like, you know, and it's so funny too, because these guys would bitch and moan.
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Man, that chicken or that little, they give it like a little Cornish hen. Man, that Cornish hen ain't got no meat on it. It's like, what did you fucking think when you were robbing banks? Did you think they were going to feed you all? Yeah, but I'm robbing banks. But when they catch me, they're going to feed me lobster in prison. So it'll be okay. Like, what did you think?
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I thought I'd get slop every meal. The fact that they're giving you a holiday meal. is a special meal that you don't deserve, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're selling crack, you know, in a park across the street from an elementary school. You're upset because they don't have a Cornish hen? Is it thick enough? But, oh, listen, you know another thing they would do? This is funny.
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And this is actually right around It'd be Christmas time. So more Christmas time. They give you, well, one, they give you, a couple days beforehand, before Christmas, they line everybody, everybody goes back to the units, and then they line you up unit by unit, and there's like 12 units. They would let you out. And so you'd come out, like 180 guys, and they walk all the way to the chow hall.
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You go in the chow hall. You get Christmas cookies and chocolate milk. And let me tell you something. And you walk all the way. And then the warden, the assistant warden and warden, everybody will be there. And they'll be like, Merry Christmas. Or, you know, Happy Holidays. They don't say Christmas. God forbid.
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Right. And then the guys would walk by and they're like, Happy Holidays. Happy Holidays. And what's so funny is before Christmas, Before you go, and you get a ticket, right? You hand them a ticket and you get your stuff. Before you go, guys would be walking around the unit like, man, make us line up and go into the chow hall like we a bunch of kids. Man, that's some bullshit.
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I'd be like, you're not going to go? Can I get your ticket? Fuck you, Cox. You know I'm going to go. You know, is it embarrassing? Is it humiliating? Absolutely. Well, that's prison. That's what happened. That's what you signed up for. And you don't have to go get your Christmas cookies. Shut up. Like, come on, stop it.
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Yeah, they're free in prison. They're all good.
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I would say humility. Humility? Yeah, just appreciation and humility. And, you know, because I work a lot harder and I appreciate everything a thousand percent more. So, you know, and I don't think anything was going to teach me that other than a decade in prison because I was just that much of a prick.
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You know what's so funny about this? is, well, first of all, I think, and I've said this before, I don't know if I've ever said it here, but I mean, everybody's a criminal. You'll commit a crime, you know?
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But I'm saying you could be the, you know, so I actually was in a program called RDAP. It was a drug and alcohol kind of a recovery program in prison. So, yeah, it was like in a prison, in a prison. And the psychologist that ran the thing was going around talking to everybody and talking about getting out of prison, that sort of thing.
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And they were talking about, like, and when I had talked about my getting out program, like, well, what I was planning, I said, I'm going to do this for about a year, this for about a year, I'll give it about a year. And they were like, well, what happens after a year? And she goes, and I said, if like in a year, I'm living in the spare room and I'm riding a bus and I can't pay my bills.
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And she goes, yeah, what happens then? I go, I'm going to commit a massive, massive fraud and I'm going to leave the United States because that's where I fucked up last time. And she went, well, committing a crime should never be, that should never be an option. I go, well, anybody will commit a crime under the right circumstances. And she goes, that's not true. I said, really? Really?
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I said, let me give you a scenario, Doc. You got two kids. I know she had two kids. I said, you got two kids. Let's say you're married. You're a psychologist. You work for the government. And suddenly there's a recession. And they cut back on programs like RDAP. And you lose your job. And you find out that your husband is having an affair. And he leaves you.
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And he leaves and stops paying child support. And you lose your house, by the way. Most of that I know, I knew through the back door. Some of that was true. I said, and he leaves you. And I said, you're struggling and you no longer have a job. And people don't have disposable income to worry about their feelings.
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I said, and your kids, you lose your house and you're living in your car with your two kids. And you're sleeping in a grocery store parking lot. And they happen to put the bread... Four feet inside of the door. And, you know, if I walk by there, I snag a piece, a loaf of bread. My kids live for another week. I said anybody under the right circumstance will commit a crime.
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The difference is your threshold and mine is just my threshold, just a little bit lower than yours. That's all. Anybody would do it. So, you know, I'd get that bread. Absolutely. Fuck that. Fuck Publix. They got enough money. Right. But I think anybody would commit a crime. But I also think when I was out there committing crimes, it was very easy for me to convince people to help me.
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Either by manipulating them or simply by you see someone that's maybe struggling and they see that you have stuff and you're endearing to them and you're extremely manipulative. The idea of paying someone for their service several times so you have three different –
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interactions with them knowing I'm a decent guy and I will build a relationship in those three interactions and we'll be friends and I'll get his advice for free from now on. That's amazing. That's a great situation, right? The guy that paid the one time for the hour or however long that period of time, he's not going to be able to do that. You knew break it up. I'll be endearing.
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He's going to make him laugh. It's going to be great. I'll be my best for 15 minutes. Yeah. So I think that I was always very good at figuring out who was susceptible, and I think that's just intuition. I'm a huge believer in intuition.
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I don't know. A lot of people don't have – they don't have super – people want to be liked, and they don't have super solid – foundations. And I think that you find somebody that wants to be liked and they're, they're easily manipulated, right? Like they want to be like, they're not, they don't have that. You could, it could be anything.
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It could be, you know, those people that won't draw that line in the sand and, You know, like I tend to fake that, you know, like I'll fake like, oh, yeah, no, I get it. Hey, I understand. Like I I get you wanting to, you know, whatever, you know, you're a Democrat and or, you know, you're you're liberal and I'm conservative. And but I get you. I understand. Like, hey, I want free health care.
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I understand that. And I, you know, so you do that whole thing, you know, but the truth is, you know, I have horrifically harsh lines. Yeah. But I'll allow myself to appear to be manipulated because I need you to feel like I'm on your side because I then will later extract something from you. It's a horrible personality trait that I'm struggling with.
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Gosh, I don't know. What's the most common crime people commit?
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In federal prison. In federal prison? Sure. If you think that, you have a better insight on that.
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I mean, honestly, it's probably selling drugs, right? Is that still a crime? Unfortunately. Why is that still a fucking crime? Yeah. Well, I mean, unfortunately, it's probably...
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it's yeah it it's you know it's so funny too because people a lot of people will sell drugs they don't even think it's a crime like you know i'm saying like the kid that's bringing some marijuana to his buddy in high school and he's selling it yeah and even he'll break even he didn't even make any profit selling but i'm just getting my money back you just sold you know yeah i don't know i i don't know i'd have to say drugs is the most common one because anybody can do it you know
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I mean, what I spent most of my time doing was waiting in line. But other than that, I would say it was writing. I wrote pretty much all the time. That's what got me through jail.
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I had written before I went to prison. I'd never published anything. I never really completed anything that was like a solid manuscript that was edited and ready to go. But I'd worked on stuff before, like creative, right? But it wasn't until prison I think I really kind of like got good at writing and took it seriously in prison. You had a lot of time. Yeah. No, exactly.
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It's funny how many guys go to prison and they – And they focus on playing handball and basically doing a bunch of shit that's like, okay, none of that's going to help you on the outside. And I kept thinking, what can I do to try and do something else when I get out here? Because the judge was very, very... He was...
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very very stern when he said i couldn't commit fraud anymore i mean he was really adamant about it and i really felt like i feel like i can't feel like i can't be in front of this guy again he's really adamant about it i need to do something else
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I think mouth off to the cops. I did that. Yeah. It never ends up well. It's like this isn't going to – it's already going bad for you. This is only going to get worse. Yeah, I think – yeah. I also think it depends on if you're guilty of something too. Sometimes the cops will arrest people that aren't – they haven't really done anything. You know what I'm saying? So –
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yeah so but just melt i think mouthing off just makes it worse and worse and worse and then but i also think that if you're if you're convicted if they're if they've arrested you for a serious crime then i think talking to them is a mistake then i think it's you have to get that point so yeah i really feel like i need my lawyer i you know that i should probably have done fairly quickly you still be very polite like hey i get it i understand you have a job i just feel like what you're saying i need to talk to a lawyer
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I think get a lawyer. Get a lawyer. Yeah. And not talk. And not talk. Yeah. People tend to bury themselves. They think they're going to talk their way out of it. And that almost just never happens, right? Like, I mean, I've done it a few times. But, you know, yeah, definitely.
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So I'm on the sociopathic scale for sure, right? Like all criminals, like if 1% of society is sociopathic and 99% of guys that are locked up in prison are sociopaths and You know, so I have very little empathy. I mean, I'm not a complete 100%. I don't have anybody in the basement. You know, like I'm not driving around with a dead body in the trunk of my car or anything.
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But I have very little empathy. So I don't feel bad. I feel like this is what I'm doing. I'm entertaining. I'm not harming anybody, I think. And what's even more amazing about it is that – and this is completely –
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This is completely not as a result of me making an attempt at all, which makes it even more bizarre, is that there are people out there that are like inspired by me just making a normal living. And they send me letters and emails, like you're an inspiration, you're this, that. And I'm like, I'm just trying to make a living.
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And they're inspired, like you've turned your life around, like by trying to do something legally, like, Everybody that works at Walmart is doing that right now. They're just doing – they're legally making a living. And yet people – it just happens to be that people are inspired by it and they like it and they – and if people like you, they want to see you succeed.
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And that's – as fucked up as society is, that's a great thing about society that they want to see – Americans love a comeback story.
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Oh, I mean, I love Jordan. Listen, there's a guy. Oh, come on. What's his name? You don't think he's a snitch? Jordan Belfort? Oh, I thought you meant Jordan Peterson.
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He snitched on everybody. You gotta look out for yourself, bro. I'm the only one looking out. This is the one thing I know for sure. This is the one thing is that there is no street code and the only person looking out for you is you. And if you're thinking to yourself, I always love the guys that do the, what do they do? They do the, oh, well, it's against my principles. Principles?
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Bro, if you had principles, you wouldn't be ripping people off for a living. You wouldn't be selling crack. You wouldn't be robbing banks. You wouldn't be committing fraud. Like if you had principles, a guy with principles, you know what he does? He cooperates with the police. And when he needs money, you know what he does? He works two jobs. That's what he does.
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He doesn't run a pump and dump scheme that makes everybody millions and millions of dollars. And then suddenly have principles and go to prison for fucking 15 years. No, what he does is exactly what a scumbag does. He rats out everybody he fucking knows to get the best deal he can. That's what you do. Because you don't have principles.
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If you had principles, you wouldn't be in this position to begin with. So absolutely. No problem with Belford.
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Is there any criminals we should study?
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Criminals you should study?
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For what reason? Just from like, they're smart. Like they're resourceful, they're smart, they're like... Like a type of criminal or a specific person? Person.
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Yeah, I mean, I think Belfort's a good example, right? Like he got out and he kind of changed his... He's successful. He changed his life. It's so amazing to me that people... There's a whole segment of society that wants prisoners or people to get in trouble, go to prison, get out, and continue to fail. But that doesn't make sense.
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You sent them to prison to be supposedly, not that this is what's happening, but to rehabilitate themselves. But you still don't want them to do better than you. Even legally, I don't want him to do better because he's a bad person and I'm a good person. I think that says more about those people than it does someone like Belfort.
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Do you think the government makes it hard for reformed criminals to succeed? Absolutely. The government and society in general create more problems and create more crimes for guys getting out of prison. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get out of prison and start over again? Nobody wants to rent to you. Nobody wants to hire you. Nobody, I had all kinds of restrictions.
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My judge, for some reason, I don't think he did this on purpose. I don't think, I think he was told this by the U.S. attorney that I was, because I had, one of the things I was doing was I had a development company. I was building new houses. So somehow or another, part of my judgment commitment when I got out of prison, that's the document that binds you while on probation, right?
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Part of the judgment commitment said, hey, Mr. Cox cannot work in real estate. Okay, fair enough. In finance, in any capacity, in real estate finance, development or construction. So when I got out of prison, I actually had somebody who was going to hire me for like $16, $17 an hour to drive for a friend of a friend. I know this is your friend. I'm going to help him out.
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I'm going to let him because we have a bunch of laborers and stuff. We need to pick up stuff. We need to drop them off at sites. And we need somebody that can go to Home Depot, pick up things, and drop them off. So we really just need somebody who's responsible, that has a license, that can drive. Right. I go to my probation officer. Boom, got a job, 40 hours a week.
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Got to pick up guys, drop them off. It's great. I just got to sit in the truck. And she was like, look, you'll be sitting in the truck for hours at a time waiting for people. No problem. I can write. I can do all kinds of stuff while that's downtime. I can work on social media. Like, this is perfect for me. And she said, yeah, you can't work for a construction company.
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And I went, no, no, I'm not building anything. I'm not. Yeah, but your judgment and commitment says you can't work for a construction company. I went... No, no, but that's because I was building stuff. They think in a capacity as fraud or something. She goes, Matt, let me explain something. You can't... I go, I'll be driving a truck.
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She goes, you can't dig a ditch if it's for a construction company. And I was like... So what do you want me to do? Like, she's like, well, I don't know, but you better figure it out. Like, they don't give a fuck about you. Yeah, because you got to get a job and then you violate. Yeah, just as happy to violate you and send you back to prison as it is to do one thing to help you at all.
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They make it very. And that's I had that was actually I had it very easily. Right. A clean cut white guy. I'm well spoken. I'm educated. Not that hard for me to make money. I'm going to be able to make some money. So I'm going to figure it out. But I know guys who they, Zach, funny, smart, personable, working at Wawa. The only place he can work is Wawa.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He couldn't work at the Dollar General store. They didn't want to let him work at the Dollar General store.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They want you to be better, but then they... Yeah, they do, but they really want you to fail. They don't want you to do better than them. They want you to fail. They want you to go back to prison so they can feel good about themselves. They don't want to help you. They don't want to give you student loans. They don't want to let you go back to school and re-educate yourself or anything like that.
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Not in the federal system. There's probably some states that probably do that. There's some liberal states out there that are probably doing wonderful, wonderful things for people, and I'm sure those inmates are ruining those programs right now at this point.
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the one thing is is inmates in general anything you give them and this is horrible they ruin it so it's like one minute you i feel like i want to advocate to help these guys but in another minute you have to boy they'll try and ruin it the moment you give it to them Makes sense.
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Every time in prison they tried to come up with a different program for us or help us in any way, boy, these guys fucked it up every single time. Hey, let's give them new guitars. These guys are snapping out the guitar strings and making tattoo needles for them. It's like, what are you doing? You know, DVDs. Well, let's have a DVD room where they can watch movies. Wouldn't that be nice for them?
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And, you know, that'll help them. They like to watch the movies and it entertains them. And, you know, these guys have nothing to do. And the next thing you know, they're sneaking in porno DVDs through the guard. And they're in there, you know, rubbing one out. And you're like, what are you doing? What are you guys doing? I'm trying to watch Planet of the Apes here.
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Yeah, Kiki's next to me rubbing one out.
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It's not helping. One of the problems is COVID, really, for the federal system. There were so... COVID was so rampant in the system, guards that were able to retire started retiring. They're like, I'm going to die. Like guards are dying. You got guards who are like, you know, overweight, who have medical problems, who are so-and-so died, so-and-so died, so-and-so died. Fuck it. I'm at retirement.
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I was going to work a few more years to get that up a little bit. I'm done. So all the guys with seniority quit and they hired all new guys. So the guys make an 80,000 a year that knew how the prisoners were. Those guys got fired, or I'm sorry, those guys quit and they hired a bunch of guys for $35,000 who can barely, what are you gonna do for 35 grand? How are you gonna live on 35 grand?
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You got a wife and maybe two kids and you're trying to live, you just got out of the military, you're trying to work on 35,000, but guess what? The guy, you know, Matt Cox, his, Matt Cox's brother, And I know Cox is in B4. His brother goes up to me in the parking lot and says, yo, bro, hey, my brother's in B4. I'll give you a fucking grand right now if you'll give him the cell phone.
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Of course they're going to take it. They're going to be like, fucking grand for a cell phone. I walk in every day. Nobody searches me. I put it into my sandwich. I'll walk right in. Nobody even looks in my little lunchbox. I'll walk right in. And Cox is walking by one day. I go, Cox, hey, what's up? Here's some mail for you. He'll hand me some mail.
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And in the mail, I'll be like, damn, that mail's heavy. I'll walk back to my cell and open it up, and boom, there's a cell phone there, a little flat cell phone. Cox, the guy might talk to you later, like, bro, you better make sure you hide that shit, because if I find it, I'm going to fucking take it from you. Because guess what? If they take the cell phone that they bring in... They get a bonus.
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So they'll get like 200 bucks a bonus. So then they'll, these guys will bring in cell phones and then find them on you two weeks later. Anyway, I'm saying it's, you know, it's a business, but it's not a great business model, but it's profitable. But the cops will do that and they'll bring in, they'll bring in drugs and they'll bring in.
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And next thing you know, they're making an extra $30,000 on top of the 35. And now the job is okay. And And that's what's happening in most of the federal prisons now, where when I was there, there was maybe three cell phones on the whole compound. Now every time they do a sweep, they find 100 of them, 150. They're making alcohol. Before, the guards were too smart. They'd been around too long.
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They knew how to find these types of things. They knew where they hid them. They knew how it worked. The new guards are clueless, so they're able to run game on them.
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Is that true? Yeah. I think probably some pretty you can buy sneakers in prison. You can special order sneakers Yeah, if you have money you can get almost anything and used to be able to really get stuff in but But yeah, I'm pretty sure you could probably buy Jordans. I know that I Yeah, you can special order stuff. They'll only let you spend so much.
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They don't want you to walk around with a $1,000 pair of Jordans. But I'm sure there are guys that are walking around. I'm not a sneakers guy. I bought, I think, one pair of sneakers. I know my cousin bought me a pair of sneakers. Pete bought me a pair of sneakers. I was walking around with sneakers that had a hole in them. In the bottom, I just kept putting paper in it, right?
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I don't want to spend money on people. I'm not here to impress you. And so Pete one time was like, I'm buying you some fucking sneakers. This is ridiculous. And he got me some sneakers. And they were like 30 bucks, you know? I think I bought one pair of sneakers the whole time I was there. Typically, when some guy was leaving, a short guy, you know what I'm saying?
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A short guy that I'm like, what size sneakers are you? And the guy would be like, eight. I'd be like, eight? I know you're not leaving these for anybody here. You're not going to walk out with those, are you? But I'll give them to you, Cox. Thank you. So I'm wearing other people's sneakers the whole time I was there. Humility.
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Unicor. Yeah, they make... Unicor is a... It's a factory that's connected to prison, and if you can go work there, these guys make... Every Unicor makes something different. At Coleman, they made... At Coleman Low, they made... uh, cubicles. So they did the cubicles and they, they did the, they had the, you know, they put the fabric on them and they build them and then they sell them.
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And, uh, those guys would make, some of those guys had seniority and they'd been there like a long time and they'd make like, like $2 an hour, $2 and 50 cents an hour or something like that. There were guys that would leave prison after 10 years and they'd have 15, $20,000 in there from saving up. Wow. It's I know it's I know it sounds like no money, but you know, you don't have rent.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You don't have you're not paying electric You're not paying for anything in there. So you're just banking it right in it Was that like in a bank account in prison or is that like yeah, you could they would have it in there? They're they're inmate commissary account.
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I'm assuming if you had that in like cash, you'd probably get beat up for it Yeah, you can't there's no cash in prison, but cash is mackerel mmm mackerel and and stamps What are your knuckles say?
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Yeah, 20 years ago. Yeah. You don't go to the bank and somebody's got a neck tattoo. But now you go to the bank and they have a neck tattoo and they've got – You've got face tattoos and shit. Yeah, they've got blue hair and you're like – they've got a thing hanging out of their nose and you're handing them $4,000 to deposit in your account. I feel like, I don't know, that's going to make it.
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Hey, it's better than Tard Life. Tard life. Oh, God, that was funny, right?
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Tard life? Tard life.
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So what happened after the After the I know I'm like lame, right?
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Telling the story is half the battle.
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You know, I mean, yeah, I remember the guy just This might be the biggest crew that's the biggest crew yeah The one guy came one guy came with two people I remember that ah
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I think you're good, bro.
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It's funny. I think Lex probably would have done better if it wasn't six and a half hours.
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He wouldn't subject himself to that. He trimmed it down by an hour. When he was done, he said, how long have we been talking? I went, three, four hours, right? He was like, seven and a half hours. I was like, oh my God. And he had me put my phone on airplane mode and I was like, Like the last time I checked, she was going to get lunch. Like she's now asleep in the back of the car.
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No, no. Yeah. He's from Austin, but we drove to, um, uh, gosh, South Florida for Lauderdale or something.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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We went to the, um, uh, he was in the Ritz seven hours.
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I mean, do you just sleep the next day? Like I just, yeah. No, I was jacked up. I was all excited.
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Yeah, this was good.
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I said, how do I monetize this?
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And you're selling this to your wife?
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Hey, honey, guess what? I get to work for three influencers. We're on our way.
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And Modern Wisdom's Chris Williamson.
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And give him a couple free courses on how to dress. Yeah. And he did. $500 a month? Yeah.
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Wow. That's nice, right?
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What's the update on TikTok? Are they shutting it down?
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They just go to reels and shorts. It's possible.
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I know they do. But you'd be shocked at what you can get in stomach. I was going to say, what was his name? Eric?
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Eric, what is his last name? I don't know. What's the name of his company? He does. I don't know. He does. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a short form thing.
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They have viral views. That's insane. I am curious. So most of your clients, they're not even really, I think I know the answer to this, but they're not really concerned about AdSense. They're more concerned about attention and views.
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They're trying to convert this to sales. They have businesses where it's just like, I just need to be known.
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And I told him, too, if you want... Damn, I would have left you motherfuckers at home.
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I was just going to say, like, are they on salary? Like, I mean, like... Yes, they're all... Okay, I'll be trying.
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It was horrible.
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Dre, I had a thing where my wife and I went to Key Largo, whatever, down there in the Keys to this resort where it was a group of podcasters that were getting together and having this thing. And the guy that brought me there Introduced me because he watches my program right because nobody really knew who I was they all know who each other are and he's in every time He introduced me.
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He's like I listen. This is Matt. I literally go to sleep to him every single night and I bet a fourth person I was like, yeah, I'm gonna ask you I'm gonna ask you to change that intro. And he's like, what do you mean? I was like, yeah, you know, I don't think you understand how this is coming off. I'm getting looks. You know what I'm saying? These guys, people are like, oh, okay.
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I'm like, yeah, it's not sitting well with me. But yeah, so.
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I got a similar story. My wife's telling her grandparents what I'm doing, like for work. She's like, oh, he's at somebody's home studio filming. That's what she said. Home studio. Makes me sound like I'm filming some type of X-rated content.
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Who do you think went more viral during the hurricane? You or what's his name?
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We were trying to get him on the podcast.
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Yeah, I think he is there for a week.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Are you monetized on TikTok? Yeah.
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Did they ever contact you to say, Hey man, I want to buy my website. Like, what are you doing?
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We make no money on Instagram. We tried Jelly Smack. Are you familiar with that? They did that for a little bit. And then we have another company that's very similar, 50-50 split. Now, they put a bunch of paid ads behind it. Still, it just hasn't much.
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The guy from, is it CNN?
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No, no.
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I mean, is it Fox News? Oh, Jesse Waters. Jesse Waters. Yeah, yeah. Like, I'll go on those programs, and everybody's like, bro, you must have got a bunch of people. Like, I get nothing.
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It's cool, because you're like, oh, wow.
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I was just in New York Times. I was just in New York Times. They had my name. They said who I was, had my name, and they had a link to the video that they were talking about. I don't think we got three fucking views.
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What you think, when we figured out, which I'm sure you know, is like what you think is going to go VOT for us, for YouTube... We'll have a video where it's some guy that was – the conversation was agony. I feel horrible for the person. I'm dying for it to just be over. And when the guy walks out the door, I'm like, nobody's watching that. It was agony. And it gets almost a million views.
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And then the other person walks out. I'm like, that was amazing. What a great story. So funny. So personal. It was amazing. And it gets 35,000 views. And you're like –
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Similar thing with short form. When we're trying to figure out short form for us specifically, we pay people to do hyper edits with B-roll and music and all that stuff.
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That one guy was amazing. He had the people jumping in. It was crazy.
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Really, 90% of it, we figured from the podcast, it boils down to who's saying what they're saying and how they're saying it. Let's just not even worry about that. Let's focus on
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It's not gonna get any views But if it's a good hook and people care about the topic it's gonna give you I'll take I've literally we've had the same stories in a video and I've taken them and I've made them into like It's like a minute video, and it's like a mini documentary. B-roll. Yeah. I mean, the music, it's phenomenal. The captions, it's amazing.
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I spend two and a half, three hours on it, and then we put it out, and Colby's got a guy that works for him too, right? So I do it, and I'm like, bro, post this. It's amazing. It's fucking phenomenal. And he'll post it, and then his guy happens to cut up the same story and puts it out a week later. Okay. Mine got 3,500 views. His gets 2.5 million. No music. No B-roll. Choppy.
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Like every other word is like you're, you know, and I'm like, this is horrible. And it's amazing. And it gets a ton of views. And I'm like. And then this one, we did that for like, I went for like probably two months where every day I was hammering out videos. Like now we're gonna figure this out.
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The biggest thing, and kind of what I was telling you earlier, the biggest thing is the topic. I think that Ian Bick is the prime example we use for every guy we talk to topic about. This guy went on Ian Bick's podcast, told a story about selling jailbroken fire sticks. Yeah. And it was titled... Amazon Fire Stick, selling Amazon Fire Stick, something like that. Tech Pirate.
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So he came on our show and he was arrested in Polk County by Grady Judd. I'm sure you know Grady Judd. I know Grady Judd. He told the exact same story, by the way. Exact same story.
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He has a standard story he tells.
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Yeah. And we posted ours a couple weeks after Ian Bick got, you know, anywhere. Ian Bick's a similar channel to us, similar genre. Anywhere from 20 to 40,000 views, but it was titled titled tech pirate We did our whole thing about Grady Judd arrest Amazon scammer and the intro is Grady Judd saying this and this guy saying it wasn't me like that's or not It wasn't me. It's legal.
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40,000.
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Similar audiences.
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It's still going.
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It's like 1.1 now.
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Well, I'm lucky. because I'm dealing with scumbags. It's not like somebody's going to say something or I'm going to put myself in a position where they're like, wow, bro, you really ruined your reputation. That ship has sailed.
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Yeah, I know. Listen, it's horrible, right? I was talking to a buddy the other day and we're having this conversation. He's like, what's wrong with people? Nobody questions me. You can say anything on these platforms, and nobody questions, like, where did you hear that? And how did that happen? And it is.
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So there's enough, you know, Gary Vee talks about this, where he talks about, I think Gary Vee is the first time I ever heard about the, by the way, the Smurfs analogy, where it gives an analogy about, do you understand that there are YouTube channels with hundreds of thousands of subscribers and millions of views that do nothing but talk about Smurfs? The Smurfs, the little blue Smurfs.
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And talks about it, he's like, so the idea that you could say, oh, well, I'm interested in this, but nobody else is, he's, you're wrong about that. Trust me, if you're saying nobody else is interested, there's probably a community waiting to clock to you because nobody, and they probably think nobody's interested either.
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Like those little niche communities that are out there are now making people hundreds of thousands of dollars, you know?
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And I'm like... What about the show? What about the show on the spectrum?
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Dating on the spectrum.
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Love on the spectrum, yeah.
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Listen, my roommate and my wife love that show. I couldn't even watch it. I was like, what? And they're laughing. And they're like, oh, my God, it's so cute. Look, they're so... And I'm like, what's wrong with you? What's wrong with you two?
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I can't stop watching this. I can't stop watching it. I'm like...
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a good title would be Grant Cardone's partner is arrested.
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But I did notice that with business guys, like business guys, if they're not coming in like all in, you can tell it's just not there. Well, that's it. Yeah, they got that shell up. Like the best people, and that's why I think a lot of people like love Matt because he's unapologetically himself. He's like, you know, whatever, even if it's a controversial issue, he's like going to be like,
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say how it is and like we had one guy for example he's in sales now and he was stealing money from uh a christian organization or he was like kind of ripping off but he's here before he's like oh like let's just let's just leave that part out and i'm like you need to go all in yeah yeah that's the difference between maybe a million views and 50 000 that's what i've learned it's like and even working with the people that we work with i'm like i'm like look if you're a there is
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Colby likes that. Colby.
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Colby can make me look horrific in a video. Is it Louisa Grant? Like no problem. I was something like every once in a while. Colby he didn't even tell me really anymore sometimes I'll find out that we got a video that's got like two two and a half three million views and I'll be like oh that's it and I'll watch it and I'll be like What were the comments on this?
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It's like saying fast food.
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And I start reading, I'm like, holy Jesus, God almighty. I mean, they are just horrific. And I'm like, this dude is willing to sacrifice.
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Matt will be telling a story from someone else, like a scumbag he met in jail and how a piece of a shit he was. But the way it cut up, it's like Matt is doing it. Matt is saying he did this. And they're like, this guy.
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What's, what's his name? Okay, the guy that sells the flip-flops for $5,000 a piece.
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Toehold. The company's called Toehold out of Vegas. It's MMA. Let me look it up.
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Yeah, this guy, his entire Instagram, listen, he never shows any flip-flops. It's a good business strategy, yeah. It's just hot chicks and him in the office and walking around and you're like... And we're watching like we looked at 30 or 40 of the of the reels and we're like, bro, aren't you supposed to be selling like flip flops? He's like, oh, yeah, I'm not worried about that, bro.
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Check this chick out. It's like that's that's the draw.
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They're like genuine leather flip flops, but it's a girl just hitting a piece of leather with a hammer and like a bikini, just big tits. Yeah, you never really see. And he's getting millions of views on his reels.
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And he's selling like $2,000 pair of sandals. Yeah, we went to Vegas.
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$600?
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They're pretty cool sandals.
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No, and they want there's only a small amount of people that care about it like for example I was looking up, you know podcast for Ryan today like to listen on the way over here, but they're all about my rally viral Yeah, everybody like we hate it like this is why I'm like me like I've been on so many different podcasts and I'm like Can you just ask me?
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Or maybe it's the insurance company that they worked a deal with and they just don't know it.
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That's not how this works. You don't fuck me over. I fuck you over. That's how this works. That's the email you should have sent.
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I don't feel like this guy's got your best interest.
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Better to be a witness than.
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I'm curious, how do you get industry racing? Is this like everybody's going to the drag strip on Saturday night or y'all going to the like a vacant road?
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Yeah. I was going to say, I've actually been to, when I was probably 19 or 20, I've actually been to a couple of those races. I want to say Gandy or something.
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What did you do? Keep going to school?
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Yeah, as long as you get in front of the court and argue, and then the judge will say, okay, I'm going to suspend the things, but you got to go to traffic.
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You have to actually go in.
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You just type in driver test?
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What does it do? It tracks, like, where you've been and, like, kind of what maybe.
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It's free to register a name?
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How did the accident happen, and when was it, and how did it happen? So I was listening to your interview when I was actually painting, so that's why I think I feel like I must have walked out of the room or something.
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That's why I felt like I thought you had come home from work, gone to sleep, couldn't sleep, went to leave, or went to drive around to go to sleep, and that's when you had the accident. Yeah. I guess I missed something, but so what I'm wondering now is when you had the accident, was it in the middle of the night? Were you in a middle of division?
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Is this, is this, and this is in the middle of a, uh, like a populated area.
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did you snap back into it? Like it, you know, you're, you're looking down on yourself. Did you suddenly you're back in the vehicle?
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Hey, this is Matt Cox and I am here with James Iandoli and I watched him on a podcast the other day and he's got a really interesting UFO story and kind of an, I'm going to say alien interaction story, but I could be wrong on the specifics of that. So I'm sure he'll correct me. So check out the video. I really appreciate it.
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Isn't this is also like the first time that was the first time that you actually, you know, you, you know, it's not in your head, like your pet, your family members came out and saw it. So it's like, okay, this isn't just me.
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I actually have someone that, so you guys are seeing this.
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I know it's not me. Yeah.
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So can I ask a question real quick? So when you're five or six years old, like was there any any interaction or contact other than them just saying he can he can see us?
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The remote, I remember seeing something on the remote viewing back in the late 80s, early 90s when during the Cold War, probably in the height of the Cold War, where they were having people that were. that supposedly could do remote viewing and they were trying to have them place themselves in Soviet military facilities, right? Like it started at military. Absolutely.
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Where military applications and, you know, where they wanted them to, can you go into this building? Can you, and they would come back and say that they'd looked in, you know, this room or that room or tried to go into a file cabinet, but couldn't do it or whatever.
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It was interesting because what was interesting was they would be able to describe buildings and the inside, the outside, where they were when there was no way these people would know where these buildings were. Or what they look like or anything.
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I was going to say, listen, if the Department of Defense can consistently lose hundreds of billions of dollars – then they can be running other programs without anybody knowing off the books that nobody's in charge of.
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The other thing I was thinking about when you were talking was
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the descriptions, like you're saying that when people are describing these events and, you know, they're, you know, whatever operation, you know, blue book or, you know, whatever, whatever the people that are going out kind of collecting this information to do these investigations are kind of blowing off anybody that doesn't specifically state it was a craft.
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It was clearly a craft, but the problem is, is that, you know, they're looking at a, like you said, a very,
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tangible you know this must be a craft this must be like a ship this must be but the truth is because that's what that's just how they're conceptualizing this is the only thing it could be but the the problem is if you could communicate with an ape what's happening and ask an ape how to describe
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what's happening in the zoo or in the jungle or with humans, or they would never be able to describe it. They would describe it in a very rudimentary way to the best of their abilities, because the truth is they don't really understand what that vehicle is. They don't know what a bus is, what a plane is. They don't know where this food is coming from. They don't know what these things are.
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They would have to describe it in the limited, you know, with their limited capabilities. So they're going to get a very, very rudimentary explanation of what's happening. So for us to sit here and try and conceptualize what we're seeing, like, you know, we have a limited vocabulary, a limited understanding, and we're seeing things.
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You mentioned the movie... The Knowing, yeah. The Knowing, which was a great movie.
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And, you know, just like you said, like, you don't really know what you're seeing. You don't really, just like what I like is that you're like, You know, I'm not even saying that I necessarily even know, you know, are these really people that are beings from another dimension that are telling the truth? Are they really aliens? Are they really like, I don't know. Here's what happened.
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Here's what I saw. Who knows? Did you ever see that movie? They. They. they i'm not sure i want to send you that listen it's is it they or they live is it they live yeah there's the older one they live with roddy piper yes yes oh yeah a b movie i love it yeah what i loved was that it was everywhere they were all around us yes you just didn't know
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What? Wow.
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You know, that was, that was a great, that was a great, cause when he puts on those glasses and you realize like, oh wow, we're, we're just like, we're like clueless Disney world. And we have for, for these beings.
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Or you could even conceptualize where they're from or what dimension or what planet.
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I was going to say my argument is always – because I have a friend that I – I don't want to say he's an enthusiast, but the problem with him is that he believes in every conspiracy that has ever been – I mean from Bigfoot to the Loch Ness Monster to JFK to – I mean you name a conspiracy, he believes them all. But one of the things I always argue with him about is that why would they be here?
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Like, what do we have that they don't need? There's nothing like if you could travel billions of light years or be an interdimensional species, there's nothing we offer.
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There's way more surface or coverage underneath the ocean than there is.
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Right.
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Um, so it, it just turns out that they're, you know, the ocean bed is just, that's where they're living. There's massive, massive cities down there that we just don't have any idea. And the only reason they even make contact is because we're kind of exploring the abyss. Yeah. And they're like, yeah, we better go ahead.
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Um, you know, when you said like kind of that there, well, I was thinking about interstellar. So I guess you didn't say this. I was thinking about interstellar. Did you see the, you saw interstellar, right? Yeah. Yeah. That was great. But what was great is that it was, it was like, this isn't an alien speed. This is just us. Right. You know, communicating.
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These are what fourth, fifth dimension or us in the future living in different dimensions and, And then I was actually talking to my buddy the other day, cause I'd watched a program on Mars and I'm always watching stuff. I was playing stuff in the background.
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And I, just while I was listening to it, they were talking about how in the future they said, once we're, you know, an interplanetary species and humans are being born on Mars, they said, we'll become a two species race where they said, because think about it. They said they won't need, they'll be taller. Yeah.
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thinner, less bone density, less muscle mass, you know, so all of these things that they were saying that, you know, 2000 years in the future, Martians, humans, that's Martian species will look so vastly different from us, even though they're human. Right. that they would, they would essentially be aliens to us. And if they were, you know what I'm saying?
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And what happens, who knows what happens in the evolution of that species? Yeah. Right. Super like that to me, I felt like, wow, you know, that kind of plays into the whole inter interstellar, the, you know, who knows?
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And they want, so they want such limited contact with us. Like you don't want to alter the future.
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Right.
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not knowing or understanding the fact that I have no idea what's really happening. You know, I can, I can look at my cell phone and a, and a vehicle and tell you, I don't know how it works.
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Vehicles are magic. My cell phone is, it's a, it's a little box of magic, you know? So I have no, I have no, you know, I, I have no problem admitting that, look, I don't know what's happening here. You know, like I don't, it doesn't, I don't have to know. Like I understand this is beyond my understanding.
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And I was just, I was thinking like, you know, you know, that I will watch a program where they were saying, look, these things have been cited forever.
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And then even if let's assume that the Roswell crash was real, you know, so there's a real craft that was, you know, captured and maybe, and there's a few other instances and maybe, maybe actual, you know, if they're aliens have been actually captured, you know, why it's always like, well, why wouldn't they tell us? Well, in the 1950s,
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Like, if you had told the civilization that there were aliens, most of civilization is still being held together by religious beliefs. That would have fundamentally changed. But if you slowly leak these things out and change the consciousness of, you know, the global consciousness, it's cause it's not like it's just happening here. This is everywhere. We're slowly leaking it out.
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And then you get to a point where you say, okay, I think they're ready because let's face it when those tapes came out from the, uh, from the, um, the Navy. And that to me was the first 100% concrete evidence. That didn't do anything to me. It didn't change anything for me. Listen, after I heard that, I still went to church on Sunday with my wife. We still sat there. I still listened.
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I still got in my car. I was like, that's crazy. Did you hear about the tapes? Did you watch that thing? Like I'm talking to my buddies about it. We're like, what, what's going on? What's going on? It didn't fundamentally make me decide I'm going to stop paying my bills and I'm going to run around and become a maniac because there's no heaven.
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Like I didn't, that wasn't, wasn't what entered my mind. It was just like, I had been so inundated by it over the last 40 or 50 years that I was like, I kind of fuck you. I kind of knew that anyway.
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yeah this is proof but i kind of felt like it was pretty there was probably pretty true anyway now i've got proof that it's true so i'm good with it it didn't change anything but i think in the 40s or 50s i think it may have really done some damage
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And, well, you know, I happen when Orson Welles did the program saying that we were being, yeah, 1938.
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Yeah. Right. Like if you took that test run, people went nuts.
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It was like, you know, Go buy stuff in the grocery store to live for the next three months.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Mutually or destruction. And maybe they don't even really know what to say.
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Well, I was going to say, do you think that the United States – do you think that the Navy, were they – not the, you know, the Navy pilots where they, you know, they released the video. And do you think that that was done purposely? Like, Hey, let's go ahead and start, start slipping this stuff into the record.
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Yeah, I can only imagine the secrecy that would be surrounding something like this. You can't have a large group of people working on it at the same time. Look what happened with the Manhattan Project. I mean, the Soviets, which we know that they're 20, they're 30 years behind us. Not when they've got people inside the Manhattan Project. giving them information.
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So, yeah, so I'm sure that was a, that was a hard, obviously that was a hard lesson to learn. You were 20 to 30 years ahead of your, you know, ahead of your competition. And five years later, they're setting off or, you know, there are two or three years later, they're setting off their own nukes.
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I don't want to say government audits.
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Well, like you said, there's two different trains of thought on how it should be handled.
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I'm sure that's always been the case.
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Well, I would say, you know, like, but, you know, think about it. Like, I understand what you're saying about Congress, but, you know, well, Congress should know. I mean, OK, certain people in Congress should probably know. But I mean, Congress is just some guy who decided they're representatives. Right. Right. You know, I'm saying people like Congress is in the gut. Wait a minute.
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Congress, they're they're just representatives. Like this is some guy who honestly a year and a half could have been running a grocery store. You know what I'm saying?
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I don't think it's like – I don't think it's a show. I think that these are people that genuinely just don't know and aren't being kept in the loop because they're under kind of the whole delusion that, that really that everybody's under, which is something that even you said, you're like, well, you know, we're in a, we're living in a democracy.
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Like we're not living in, we're, we're not a Republican or a democratic Republic. Right. So, you know, there's a whole other system of government and bureaucracy that is going on and has been going on for over a hundred years, what, 200 years, I guess, but let's say a hundred years and
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Where it's been, let's say, let's say, well, I guess less than 100 years, maybe on this subject that has compartmentalized itself in such a way as to keep it from scrutiny from those people that believe we're living in an open space.
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Transparent democracy.
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And so now that they're about to be just now they're slowly being discovered. They're freaking out.
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If they were, we wouldn't be here.
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Yeah, I don't think that like, listen, if they wanted us gone, like it would be as simple as they were just sprinkle some, you know, they sprinkle some, some dust and, and, and, and everybody with our human DNA would be wiped off the planet. Like it wouldn't be difficult.
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So, yeah.
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Well, I don't think – I think humans by nature need a struggle. Right, but we have it.
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Yeah, utopia would be hell eventually. It would be great for about three months.
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Yeah. It's kind of like the matrix thing where he's explaining. They kept failing. Hey, listen, there's, there's a, there are science there. There was a, I don't know how many times I think they've read. I think they've done the same experiment several times where they had like mice generation after generation of mice that they were simply just feeding and keeping alive.
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And, and initially they're having children taking care of their children and and reproducing, but after six or seven generations, they stop having sex that much. They stop taking care of the children that they do have. They start becoming like almost depressed. They start, it's a whole breakdown of their entire society just because it's such a perfect situation for them.
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By nature, individuals or species in general have to have something to strive towards. If you remove that, it's chaos. It's horrible. It breaks down.
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Right.
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Right. Correct. Correct. Yeah. No, they're going to, they're going to, they have to drag this out. Um, To me, why not just come out? At this point, it's already basically out there. Might as well just come out and say, look, we've got these crafts. Here's what they are. We're going to release X amount of information. There's some stuff we're going to keep just for national security.
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But yes, at this time, this is what happened. These are the documented incidences. That, to me, would be And really, I think that would practically nip it in the bud if you said, hey, we're reverse engineering certain programs. We're not going to tell you what they are. I'd be like, I'm okay with that. I'd be like the concrete.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
I just need that. I just need it. I just need it. I have a few people to apologize to.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
I was going to say, you know, what's interesting to me is like, I was kind of, you know, I've had those moments where it's like, well, why that, if there are so many people involved in these programs, how come at some point they don't come out? But I, I keep thinking about like, um, Shoot, what was his name?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
Snowden, you know, like like, you know, like these guys sign these documents and and the government doesn't care. Right. What comes out like I don't care what well what you're doing is wrong. I don't care whether you think it's wrong or not.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
basically right because um but if you're if you're 45 years old and you got two kids you're thinking you're thinking i know all this and i can prove it i've actually got information i got this you know people some people will say why don't you come out bro because i got two kids and a wife bro like i'll go to prison you think they won't throw me in prison
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
you know push back for what he did but he's also not walking away with actual documents he's not walking away with really secure documents is he i mean he helped get the tapes out i'm not i'm not gonna say to what he got to who right i can't say that well he's doing it in such a way that he's got plausible you know kind of deniability right like i look 100 when from me you know you can at least it's not like you're walking out saying look
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
Here's this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
And this is going on for a suburb. I mean, is this some, yes, yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
So like anybody could walk out of their house and see this thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
Oh, okay. Sorry.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
You don't really want to come out officially and say, listen, it's just not the case. And take a hard stand at this point because then suddenly people get frustrated and they come out and they go ahead and they say, I'll bite the bullet and I'm going to release some stuff.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
Cause I know that at some point you get in your car.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
And now you're the guy that was standing in front of the podium lying.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
Well, if you're one of the people that don't want this to come out, you are in charge of one of those. They've got those agencies or programs, and they've got to be freaking out right now.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
I'd love to be in one of those meetings.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
Do you talk about this on your channel, all the different things that are happening? What is your YouTube channel specifically going over? I talk about everything.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
We're so interconnected at this point. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
I don't know who that is.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
Okay. Well, listen, I, I, I appreciate you coming on and you know, going over your story and just, you know, talking about talking on the subject, you're clearly way more knowledgeable than I am. Um,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
Well, I think, I can't imagine anybody at this point would, would not realize that there's something obviously major that's happening.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
Listen, 25 years ago, they would mock people that would look for other planets.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
Exactly. There's hundreds of thousands of them now.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
What happened to being a, what happened to being ridiculous looking for other planets now?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
Right. Exactly. They're, they're in that perfect zone where there's, there's a super good chance of life.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
I tend to – because with time, you tend to be wrong so often. I tend to not dig in on anything.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
Hey, I appreciate you guys watching the video. Do me a favor. If you liked it, hit the subscribe button, hit the bell so you get notified of videos just like this. Leave me a comment in the comment section. I'm going to leave James's link to his channel in the description box. So click on a link, subscribe to his channel if you're interested in the subject.
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Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
Share this video to your friends and family. Really appreciate you guys watching. See you.
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Government Cover-Up EXPOSED: UFO Expert Reveals Alien Secrets
There's a whole other system of government and bureaucracy that is going on and has been going on for over 100 years on this subject that has compartmentalized itself in such a way as to keep it from scrutiny from those people that believe we're living in an open, transparent democracy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a Mafia Informant: Corruption, Betrayal & Regret
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a Mafia Informant: Corruption, Betrayal & Regret
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a Mafia Informant: Corruption, Betrayal & Regret
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a Mafia Informant: Corruption, Betrayal & Regret
Oh, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a Mafia Informant: Corruption, Betrayal & Regret
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a Mafia Informant: Corruption, Betrayal & Regret
Insult him in any way?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a Mafia Informant: Corruption, Betrayal & Regret
Oh, okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a Mafia Informant: Corruption, Betrayal & Regret
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Ancient Alien Contact Hidden in the Bible | The Scary Truth
How long is the documentary?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Ancient Alien Contact Hidden in the Bible | The Scary Truth
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Ancient Alien Contact Hidden in the Bible | The Scary Truth
And what about the other pyramids?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Ancient Alien Contact Hidden in the Bible | The Scary Truth
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Ancient Alien Contact Hidden in the Bible | The Scary Truth
It's a book titled- On your YouTube channel?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Ancient Alien Contact Hidden in the Bible | The Scary Truth
Yeah, yeah. Because we were talking about it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Ancient Alien Contact Hidden in the Bible | The Scary Truth
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Ancient Alien Contact Hidden in the Bible | The Scary Truth
I was just going to say that poor bastard.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Ancient Alien Contact Hidden in the Bible | The Scary Truth
So you're going to explain consciousness to me or try? Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Ancient Alien Contact Hidden in the Bible | The Scary Truth
Like a wormhole or something, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Ancient Alien Contact Hidden in the Bible | The Scary Truth
You have to know your audience.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Ancient Alien Contact Hidden in the Bible | The Scary Truth
I'm sorry.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Ancient Alien Contact Hidden in the Bible | The Scary Truth
Right. He doesn't want us to live forever.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Ancient Alien Contact Hidden in the Bible | The Scary Truth
Well, there's lots of things. He says, I'm a jealous God. I'm a thankful God.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Ancient Alien Contact Hidden in the Bible | The Scary Truth
What is monotheism?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Ancient Alien Contact Hidden in the Bible | The Scary Truth
Well, they're not here, so let's get into it.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
I'm sweating.
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
She's like, what, 50, 60?
Moral Of The Story
Chinese Singing Competition Invites Foreign Grammy Winners, Then Regrets It & Rigs The Results
Oh, so like 55?
No Dunks
The Knicks Do It Again, Thunder Crush Nuggets & Steph Curry Out For A Week
Sprechen wir doch mal über deinen Traumtyp.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Lindor nach rechts, Centerfield, das ist zurück, es ist gut! Grand Slam und Lindor setzt die Mets auf den Top. Der größte Swing der Saison für New York.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
So now all of a sudden there's this momentum.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
I look slimmer in black. My hair looks good.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Welcome to Wrigley Field, everybody. A beautiful day for baseball. Second oldest park in the majors. It's the Yankees and the Cubs. As we get ready for baseball on a gorgeous afternoon, and we've got a good pitching matchup. A couple of lefties. It'll be Max Fried and Shota Imanaga.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Oh, yeah. Imanaga takes the mound. Take a look at the numbers for the left-hander. A season ago, an all-star show to Imanaga. And a 2-9-1 ERA. Anthony Volpe climbs in for the Yankees, and we're ready to go from the friendly confines.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Imanaga ready to work. Volpe waits, and here we go. Oh, boy. And the first pitch missing a little bit low for ball one. Fans wanted that call to strike, so one and nothing of the Yankees shortstop. The lefty from Japan, Imanaga fires, and a swing and a miss. Anthony Volpe grew up a Yankees fan. Checks his swing, the pitch misses low, it's two and one.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
I don't like what I'm doing here. And a pitch. Totally no. Oh, come on. And that misses. Three and one. Tight strike zone here in the early going.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
And a pitch. Swing and a miss. Four-seam fastball right there. And now the count is full. Nobody on, nobody out. Just getting started here at Wrigley. 3-2 pitch. Check swing. Did he go? Yes, he did.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
I had totally forgotten that. So early in the year, the Cubs play the Dodgers, and I run into Joe Posnanski and Mike Schur. Oh, sure. Sure. At some point, it comes up what we had done, and I had just disconnected and forgotten. I said... You know, Velociraptor on his horse. The kick and the pitch.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Chisholm fouls one off. And that one hit foul. So an opportunity for the Yankees as Pablo needs to clean up the defense.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Chism is down on strikes, and now here's a matchup. It'll be Judge and Imanaga. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. And this one drilled out to center field. Crow Armstrong, the early dive. Now he'll retrieve it and fire it in. And a single from Aaron Judge, big number 99 on base. Two aboard and one out.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Here's the former Cub, Cody Bellinger. This is drilled right field. Tucker is there to make the catch. See how realistic it is? That's realistic, man.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
They're on top of it. So repetitive and realistic. And now it's Giancarlo Stanton. Tennis elbow or not, here he is.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Yeah. Two away, opportunity for the Yankees as Stanton fouls it away, and it's one and one. On the ground, Borkman will pick it up.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
At the fielding. That's some good defense by the man in the blue sweater. End of a half inning. The Yankees nothing. The Cubs coming to bat.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ian Happ stands in facing Garrett Cole. And a swing and a miss. Early reports had Max Fried on the mound, but instead it will be the right-hander, Cole, if you're scoring at home. All the strike on the leadoff, man. Three-time Gold Glove winner Ian Happ swings and misses.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
One and two. Here it comes. Swing and a miss, and it gets past the catcher, Wells. And safe at first is Ian Happ. How do you like that? In the first inning, each team with a strikeout and a reach and a wild pitch. Waka waka.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Beautiful day here at the friendly confines. Suzuki hammers one. Back to the air, right center field. Bellinger can't get it. That'll bang up against the brick walls.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Well... You're at Wrigley Field. John Shamby with you. Chris Singleton on assignment. And they chant, let's go Cubbies.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Here it comes. That's just newfangled baseball. A lot's going on. And that was nasty. Garrett Cole, the backward strikeout. And Bush down on strikes. Here comes Dansby Swanson. And that one in there for a strike. It is nothing and one. What a gorgeous afternoon here on the north side of Chicago. The Cubs looking to strike first.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
John Schombie without the always repetitive Chris Singleton here on MLB The Show as that one gets away.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Right, right. We're going to work on fixing that.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
How are you? Good. I'm John Shamby. Nice to meet you.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Love you playing MLB The Show.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Yes. We got rid of Chris Singleton and his stories, and it's just me. It's just me.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
It's just me. He's not here. I mean, eventually he's going to come and talk to you.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
He's going to be pretty pissed off. He's already pissed off by texting.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Well, I mean, you play the game a lot. You do play the game a lot. I mean, you're playing a lot of the games, you know? Like, we've been recording like 400 hours, but it's hard, you know? I play 160. I've been playing this game since 2006. It's amazing. So nice to meet you. Yes. Your video on TikTok, amazing. I love that you keep score.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
I wanted to show you I have my, so I keep score on an iPad. Yeah. But it looks exactly like this. And I wanted to show you my scorecard from the World Series because I called the World Series on radio.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Yeah, so there you go. I have them too. I can show you mine.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
How great is that, by the way, to play on that? Wouldn't you love to play all the time there? Yeah. It's pretty cool. It is. All right, I'm right back. I'm going to get my scorecard, and I'll show you, and we'll get a chair in there.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
And Mike Schur's like, I wrote that.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
And so we're going to, we're going to bring him in. That's what my world series score. You can just page it and with your hands, but that's, it's similar. Yeah.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
So I do 6-3, 4-3, that type of stuff.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
So I would say close to half of us now. I would say close to half of us now use that, but I would say half are still using paper.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Yeah. So, like, this is just a scan of your sheet.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Yeah, and then, like, so that's the Dodgers down there, and this is game one.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Yeah, I have every game. I have all.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Right, so this is game five of the World Series. Right. So that's that. This is game four.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
So, I am here because Pablo and I are good friends, and he told me, he showed me the TikTok video, and he said, I've come in to do the show a few times, and he said, don't you think it'd be fun to come in and... And torture the internet's favorite sports grandpa. Thank you.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
I'm telling, can we cut that part out? Yeah, we're going to clip that, send it to Michael Kay.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Well, you know I'm a New York City guy, by the way. So I grew up, I went to Regis High School in New York. He and I were separated by a few years.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
It's crazy how much the players look like the players, don't you think?
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
narrating uh truman showing as it were your experience in our studio but when it comes to like how you actually recorded all of this for the game yeah so one of the things that's tough and i understand for the people that have been playing it for a long time you know again you have to remember how frequently you're playing the game relative to
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
you know, the amount of games that are actually being, you know, called. So you're going to hear some of the same stuff, but the way we have to record it in order to stitch it together, I have to say, I record Aaron Judge's name, and I say, Aaron Judge. And then I say, Judge. And then I say, Judge, so that they can stitch them all together, so that I can say... Aaron Judge from California.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
But then if I want to say, Judge, swings and drives one. So they just take Judge. But then if I want to make a point and I say, Judge, who was a pretty good high school basketball player, like there's all these intonations that you have to follow. So you're just, you're recording. And then any type of exciting play, you have a...
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
I'll come in and record, and they'll say, we're going to record a walk-off homer in the Division Series, a walk-off homer in the LCS, on and on.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Yeah. Yeah. Well, and then the part that was hysterical was that I was... I made the reference to him in the blue sweater, and he caught that, and then I said his name, and I said his name, and he was like, wait a second.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
I don't know. That's right. You never know.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Yeah, you love baseball, don't you?
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
I will say it's the one space, yeah, when a nine or 10 year old kid is excited to meet me, or I say, hey, do you play MLB The Show? And they say, yeah. And I say, I'm that guy.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Swing and a deep drive and forget it. Zingy, he's been red hot. Man, he is really seeing the ball well in this one. And watch their eyes get big. Yeah, I can't lie. I dig that. It's exciting that in some way I might be impacting some kid's love for baseball through this silly game.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
He's got MLB to show in his house. He's sitting on his couch, older gentleman, and he keeps score. So he's clearly playing, and he keeps score of the game that he's playing, which is wild. And, of course, the dork in me that loves keeping score, likes keeping a really clean scorecard, is like, what's going on over there? What's he keeping score of?
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
Here's a swing and a drive left field, and he knew it.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
The outside of the binder says MLB The Show.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
a be yourself and and b be your monkey that's what you're really saying i'm gonna need you to dance i mean it's literally it's it's dancing but it's also like and you're gonna put your hand up the back of my shirt and then just like yeah turn me into your your sort of muppet i'm gonna be all up in there man
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
I was remembering which part of... The fram. The fram. The sound quality in here is so...
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Show, the Voice and Grandpa: A PTFO Surprise
good and calm it's yeah it's really it's really wonderful i mean literally if you just if you wanted to leave for like three minutes i would just sit here and just say stuff to myself and like this is what i do for a living what would you say to yourself if i wasn't here what are the vocal exercises that you would run or the vocal masturbation that you would do more than exercising clearly i have red sneakers on i love my red sneakers
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Sporting Class: The Truth Behind the NBA Ratings Decline
Aber auch die Rechte, die die NFL für das Spiel bezahlt hat, waren viel weniger als das, was Fox für dieses Spiel bezahlt hat.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Sporting Class: The Truth Behind the NBA Ratings Decline
Aber der Nutzung der Ads hat sich auch verändert. Eine der großen Unterschiede zwischen jetzt und 20, 25 Jahren her ist, Well, every actor you hire to be in it posts it to their channel, which is another different dynamic. Everybody's also an advertiser and a platform themselves. Es ist also einfacher, die Ausgaben über verschiedene Komponenten zu amortisieren, die in diesen Firmen existieren.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Sporting Class: The Truth Behind the NBA Ratings Decline
Es ist eine ganze Industrie jetzt, das Superbowl-Advertisement, weshalb die Preise weiterhin erhöhen werden, so lange es von Firmen Anforderungen gibt. Und es gibt so eine Anforderung, die ich nicht ganz bekomme. Was meinst du, dass du nicht bekommst? Ich esse nicht ein kleines Caesars, weil ich Eugene Levy's Augenbrauen liebe.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Sporting Class: The Truth Behind the NBA Ratings Decline
I conflated it during another impersonal episode where I thought it was two sets of mustaches because his eyebrow looks so much like a mustache.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Sporting Class: The Truth Behind the NBA Ratings Decline
Das ist eine tolle Frage.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Sporting Class: The Truth Behind the NBA Ratings Decline
Das ist das größte Ding, das wir haben. Es ist das Academy Awards für Designers, das ist das Äquivalent für die Ads während der Superbowl für Anleitungsunternehmen und für die Kreativen, die mit Ideen kommen.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Sporting Class: The Truth Behind the NBA Ratings Decline
Und die Budgets für diese Veranstaltungen sind offensichtlich viel höher als für einen Standard 30 oder 60 Sekunden, sogar in der zweiten größten Show, der Welt-Serie oder der NBA Finals oder irgendetwas. Und ich habe mich immer nur ruhig gefragt, aber nie zu meinen Sponsoren. Ich habe mich immer gefragt, was du genau bekommst.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Sporting Class: The Truth Behind the NBA Ratings Decline
Es ist wirklich eine unglaubliche Sache, dass ich darüber denke, wie man in den Marktsteiger kommt. Wir sind in einem Business mit DraftKings, der ein Sponsor ist, und sie und FanDuel haben eine große Zahl der Marktsteiger und es gibt viele Leute, die versuchen, sie zu bekommen.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Sporting Class: The Truth Behind the NBA Ratings Decline
Es sind die alten Tage mit den Rentenwagen, mit Hertz und Avis und Menschen, die versuchen, in die Top 2 zu kommen, oder Coke und Pepsi. Wie tust du das? Was tust du? Und Brandwahrnehmung ist eine Art, wie man budgetiert, um Geld zu verdienen, nicht um Telefone zu bewegen oder nicht um die Verkäufe deines Blitzes zu verkaufen, sondern um die Leute davon bewusst zu machen.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Sporting Class: The Truth Behind the NBA Ratings Decline
Und ich habe immer diese Ausgaben beantwortet, weil man will, dass die Leute wissen, was sie haben, aber man will Telefone bewegen. Du hast gehört, was John gesagt hat. Sie wollten 250.000 Telefone bewegen, aber es gibt Leute in Disney, die gesagt haben, lass uns einfach die Leute wissen, was das bedeutet.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Sporting Class: The Truth Behind the NBA Ratings Decline
They didn't have to actually have any sort of ROI. But once you get into like quarter two or a year or two of your plan, you better show that you're moving phones or that you're doing something to actually bring in money or else you're going to lose.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
The Sporting Class: The Truth Behind the NBA Ratings Decline
Wenn ich ein Spiel mit dir jetzt spiele, das ich glaube nicht, dass wir mit unseren lehnen, mieden Mitarbeitern zu spielen sind, aber wenn wir ein Video von fünf Ads zeigen und fünf Unternehmen hatten, in denen wir ausgeschnitten haben, was die Firma war, und du hättest fünf Ads mit den fünf Unternehmen vergleichen müssen, I do not believe you would go five for five.
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I don't believe I would go five for five. And I believe most people would not.
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Es war okay. Ich war sehr enttäuscht und habe das auch auf dem Flugzeug gesehen. Ich glaube, es war in den Theatern.
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Und niemand hat sich um den Film geäußert, bis... Sie haben sich um Brad Pitt geäußert. Das war es. Es war verrückt. Es war... Und das war nicht sort of jocular. Das war real. Warum waren sie verrückt? Es ist nichts Gutes. Es ist gut für den Fußball. Es war offensichtlich für viele im Raum, dass Billy Beane mit Brad Pitt immer noch verabschiedet werden würde.
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War die ganze Sache so, dass Billy nicht so heiß ist?
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No, but he often plays fictional characters.
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But not really. So that's also way overblown. There was nothing in the movie about Miguel Tejada or Tim Hudson. Okay, we're not going to re-litigate. But I would like to say that what the owners were happy about in President GM's was that Jonah Hill was Paul DePedestra. That made everyone very happy. Oh Gott, sind wir schrecklich. Es ist wie in der Middle School.
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Mit einigen reichen Leuten, die Teams haben, die wie Kinder aussehen.
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Ich glaube nicht, dass die Ratings das, was ihn am meisten interessiert, sind, wenn er seinen Kopf auf den Pillau setzt. Ich würde mir vorstellen, dass die Situation im Spiel, wenn du den Kommissionär Rob Manfred fragst, was er am meisten darüber denkt,
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ist, was ist das Spiel, was ist das Produkt, das wir unseren Konsumern geben, um zu konsumieren, und unsere Klienten, die Broadcaster und Sponsoren sind. Und die NBA hat für mich ein Problem mit der Qualität des Spiels. Und es versucht auch, herauszufinden, wer nach LeBron kommt. Und der ganze LeBron, der zu Luca auf den Lakers geht, als ein
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ein kleines Beispiel, wie es in der NBA weitergehen könnte. Ist Luca die Person, die sie wollen? Ist es ein internationaler Spieler? Ist es Wemby? Wie werden sie eine Welt ohne LeBron navigieren, wie sie es ohne Jordan gemacht haben? Das ist interessant.
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Nein, nur die Quantität. Ja, ja, ja. Die NFL hat sechs am Wildcard-Weekend, dann geht es runter zu vier, das sind zehn. Und dann ist das die divisionalen Runde, plus zwei sind zwölf, plus Superbowl ist eins. Also ich würde sagen, 13 Playoff-Games in der NFL. 13. Und die NBA hat... Du wirst zählen. Ich wollte nur eine instinktive Reaktion. Aber die NBA ist... Geh und zähle.
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Yeah, no. And wanting more rounds. And wanting the first round to go from two or three to three or five, then to four or seven.
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No, it was a drawing that never found the light of day because your representative wanted you to be in it. Which is a good idea.
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I think we bury the lead because Adam Silver, when he was given his State of the Union, one of the most important economic was er mitgebracht hat, war die Möglichkeit, in 10-Minuten-Quartiere zu gehen.
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Sein Wunsch, die Spiele zwei Stunden für den Broadcast zu machen, zwei Stunden für die Fans, zwei Stunden für die Spieler, es würde helfen, jeden Teil der Union besser zu machen, in Bezug auf die Frage, ob sie den gleichen Betrag haben, um acht Minuten weniger zu spielen. Es würde Probleme mit den Rekordbüchern, etc. haben.
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Aber seine Begründung ist, dass die Broadcaster sehr interessiert waren in der 2-Hour-Winne, wie sie für den Fußball sind, und dass die 2,5 bis 2,40, das ist ein NBA-Spiel jetzt, es fühlte sich an, als ob er in den Negotiatoren gedrängt wurde.
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Warte, warte, er wurde gedrängt, als ob sie den Status quo behalten wollten. Nein, das bedeutet, dass er, wie im Fußball, wenn die Spiele zu lang gegangen sind, die Broadcaster sagten, hör mal, es ist unsere Fenster zu verletzen. Wir können keine vier Stunden Spiele haben.
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Und NBA Spiele in zwei Stunden und 40 Minuten, sagen wir, average, er war im Grunde gesagt, dass die Broadcaster ihm ein Beweis gegeben haben, dass eine zwei Stunden Fenster favorabel und besser für sie wäre. Und ich habe das nicht unbedingt verstanden.
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It's so different now. It used to be that shows were 52 minutes and that they started at 8 and ended at 9 on your NBC channel. But now when you go to episode lengths, we're used to a 42-minute or a 48-minute or an hour three. We don't really think about it much.
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I'd like to know... What's about advancing the ball? Also, die NBA, der Grund, warum du Timouts bis zum Ende des Spiels behältst... Nein, nein, das ist ein Teil davon. ...ist, dass du es in der Halbzeit schaffst.
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Also, wenn du die Regel änderst, dass nach einem Basket, dass du plötzlich den Ball in der Halbzeit schaffst, anstatt am Ende... Wir ändern einfach die Regel, die sagt, dass du es nicht in der Halbzeit schaffst, wenn du einen Timout nimmst.
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Well, the theory was when there's a stoppage in the game. I get what you're saying, but it's fascinating that Adam Silver's thinking this way.
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und es war eine schlechte, dass meine Demografie, mein Alter jetzt, es gibt keine Liga, keine Firma, keine Jemanden, der mir nichts anzieht. Nun, es gibt einen Grund dafür. Aber warum? Ich sterbe nicht irgendwann. Nein. Und ich bin... Von der Messung her?
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Ich möchte das nicht beantworten, aber ich verstehe, was du sagst. Warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte, warte. Nein, nein, es existiert. Das ist das, was ich benutze.
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Niemand kümmert sich mehr um mich.
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Ich mag keine Hunde-Szene, ich mag keine Hunde. Und ich wollte nicht die Doppel-Entendre der Hunde-Situation sein. Und John war... Resolute. It's out of all the decisions he makes during the course of his career, it's as though he latched onto this like a dog to a bone.
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Ich weiß nicht, wo wir mit dem Zeitpunkt sind, aber ich habe noch einen Adam-Silber-Issue, den er beschäftigen muss. Das ist eine existenzielle Frage, wo wir mit dem Zeitpunkt sind. Er geht in den All-Star-Weekend. Und ich denke, du kannst da sein oder nicht. Ja, ich kann schon da sein. Du kannst schon da sein, was noch cooler ist.
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Und das All-Star-Spiel ist etwas, das er versuchen muss herauszufinden. Sie machen einen neuen Veränderung dieses Jahr. und ich kann nicht warten, dass wir es auf einem zukünftigen Show präsentieren. Es gibt jetzt vier Teams und es wird eine Art Tournament-Style sein. Außerdem gibt es einen Schlag-dunk-Kontest mit vier Jungs, die niemand nennen kann, insbesondere der zweijährige Reining-Champion.
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Und Adam Silver, wie die anderen Kommissionäre, sitzt da rum, und ich dachte an das, als Rob Manford in der Box im Superbowl war, neben McCartney oder 508. Sie versuchen, irgendeinen Weg zu finden, um irgendwelche wertvollen Inventarien hinzuzufügen. John sagt also mehr Playoff-Games. Aber das funktioniert nicht immer, also sagt die NFL, wie geht es mit mehr internationalen Spielen?
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Und sie packen das, weshalb sie mehr gemacht haben. Andere Plätze, sie machen die 9.30 Uhr. Die NBA geht nach Paris, und sie bringen ihren top-französischen Star. Es wurde diese Woche erklärt, dass MLB in Tokio mit den Dodgers öffnen wird. Und wisst ihr, wer für die Dodgers anfängt? Yamamoto und Sasaki. Und so, was alle Ligen tun, ist, eine andere Publikation zu finden,
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They're trying to get money in order to access that audience and then take money from that audience. And eventually you run out, but not yet. And so Adam Silver, as he thinks about the state of his game, my view that chucking threes is ugly, it really is last on his list. And the ratings being down, it's second to last on his list.
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He's trying to find different revenue streams, which is what all the commissioners are doing.
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Du sagst, es ist nicht Liv, und ich sage, was Liv Liv macht, ist, wenn sie einige der Top-Spieler haben, um bei Liv zu spielen. Wenn Maverick Carter... Also, wir sagen das. Obwohl das Geld in der NBA so gut ist.
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Ich würde nur sagen, dass wenn es einen mittleren NBA-Spieler gab, oder sogar einen All-Star-Level-Spieler, und du hattest 100 Millionen Dollar pro Jahr, um in dieser Maverick-Carter-Liga zu spielen, dann würde dieser Spieler gehen.
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Yes. We're a with? We're a with. We work with him. Ah. The thought was, when this was happening, it was for him. And I tried to explain the dynamic was that we were becoming a with. And John was not yet prepared for the with.
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I was in grade school, middle school, high school.
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I think it's a size issue though, John.
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Wo defizieren die Hunde am Javits-Center? Nur um das zurückzubringen. Ist da, weil ich den Bar am Javits-Center genommen habe. Du hast den Bar-Examen genommen? Ja, das ist am Javits-Center, nicht mit Hunden umher. Und ich erinnere mich daran, dass es Wälder gab. Und ich erinnere mich daran, dass du einen Proctor mitgebracht hast. Warst du damals so? Ein Proctor.
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Du sagst... Ich glaube, dass wir verletzen, was die Regel gegen die Perpetuenz ist. Du sagst, dass ein Handler dich zum Schlafzimmer gehen musste.
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Boah, ich hoffe, John, du folgst meinem Leid hier und vertraust mir. Es gibt keine Art und Weise, zu beweisen, dass das die richtige Anzahl ist. Ich fange mit diesem Makrostatement an und schauen, ob wir noch zusammen sind.
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I'm not going to eat a little Caesars because I love Eugene Levy's eyebrows. Right after this ad.
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Well, no, I have a system before I start recording something and I was unable to do it because I got distracted prior to recording, so I'm not on my spot. My chair isn't at the right level. My IFB is in the wrong side of my jacket. And there's no table for my water. So I'm not feeling great at the moment, but I'm gonna... Du wirst durchlaufen, weil das der Typ ist, der du bist.
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Ja, das ist aus dem Cover von New York, New Yorker Magazine. Stahl Steinberg ist der Künstler. Und es ist eine wunderschöne Sache zu schauen.
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No, no. So there's not, there are a few different sizes of the original, but I do have one that I'm very proud to have acquired back when meine Erneuerung reflektiert mehr meine Fähigkeiten. Und es ist eine Art von Kunst, die den Test des Tages gehalten hat, meistens, weil ich damit leben mag, aber auch, weil es ein eikonisches Symbol ist, das es schwer zu finden ist.
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Also erinnere dich, dass Fox die einzige Firma war, die nicht streamen wollte. Sie haben keinen Dollar investiert, wie viele der anderen großen Kabelunternehmen und Broadcast-Gianten investiert haben. Und so hat Fox jetzt erklärt, und du hast es in der Earnings Call gesehen, John, dass Murdoch sagte, hör mal, wir lehnen jetzt in den Streaming.
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Jetzt sehen wir einen Weg zur Profitabilität, also werden wir es machen. Und die Superbowl war dieses Jahr auf Tubi. Und in diesem 126-127 Millionen sind rund 13,5 Millionen Leute, die es nur auf Tubi beobachtet haben. Jedes Jahr, wenn ein Rekord gesetzt wird, beeinflusst es die Advertisementrate. Und dieses Jahr wurde ein Rekord verkauft, und es war 8 Millionen pro 30.
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Ich glaube, es ist... 8 Millionen in Veränderung, ja. Es ist ungefähr das für eine 30-Minuten-Ad. Und so, als die Zahlen erhöhen, kannst du mehr bezahlen. Es gibt eine Warteliste der Firmen. Als State Farm aus dem Superbowl-Ad zurückgelegt wurde, weil von California etwas passiert war, hat Fox es in weniger als einem Sekunden verkauft. Es ist wie eine Warteliste für Saison-Ticket-Hälfer.
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Also ist jeder geincentiviert, weshalb diese Presse-Lösen nicht viel für mich bedeuten. Ja.
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Wenn du gewonnen wirst, wirst du durchlaufen. Sind wir uns hier zu feiern? Ich denke, es ist wert zu erwähnen. Ich weiß nicht, ob John das weiß, weil wir ihm einen Text geschrieben haben und er hat nicht geantwortet.
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Ja, das ist einer dieser Dinge, wo es so ist, oh, er fiel auf einen Flieger runter und kam auf ein paar Schüsse. Oh mein Gott. Es ist so, ich weiß nicht, er liebt es, schwimmen zu gehen. Ich bin sicher, es ist gut bekannt. Und so ist das der perfekte Zeitpunkt, weißt du, wie ein kleiner Schub und dann ist das es.
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Siehst du, jetzt ist es so, wie zur Hölle hast du es überhaupt herausgefunden, ob jemand... Pushed them. It's like if there was technology, it wouldn't even be at the beach randomly. Like a camera or something. It's like, oh man, that's such a good opportunity for murder. It really is.
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Das überrascht mich nicht. Wie in der Hölle findest du das? Es ist jetzt das Körper des Ozeans. Weißt du, was ich meine? Es wurde leider überrascht. Es wurde ausgeführt, um zu sehen, ähm, du weißt, vielleicht ist es gesunken. Ich weiß nicht, wie es war. Du wirst nicht wirklich eine Fläche haben, um es aufzuwachen, denke ich nicht.
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It's getting stronger. The sentinels are just gonna bust through my door out of nowhere.
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Ich fühle mich, dass die wichtigste Antwort eigentlich nur ein Unfall sein könnte. Hmm, wie ich. Ja, sie sind Politiker, aber es gibt nichts, was sich an irgendwelche großen Friktionen bemerkt hat. Ja. Weißt du, was ich meine? Es ist nicht so, dass es nur eine Person in ihm gibt, in der wir für zehn Jahre gearbeitet haben.
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Es ist nicht so, dass die Leute in den Armen sind oder, weißt du. Doesn't seem like he's got true enemies. Obviously, this is only going off of what we've been talking about, but that's kind of where I'm laying myself out right now.
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Disappearance of Harold Holt | How Australia's Prime Minister Vanished Without a Trace
It's a big claim. I'm gonna need some evidence. Especially if it's like, not even like, oh, he turned recently. It's like 30 years. There's gotta be a mountain slide of evidence.
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Yeah, I mean, I don't think a Chinese submarine could just pull up, you know, like...
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Natürlich ist es so, aber es scheint so konvolut. Weißt du, was ich meine? Mhm. Wie das passiert und dann das mit dem, und das und das. Spannende Sachen sind nie einfach, richtig? Richtig. Es macht deinen Kopf schmerzen. Es ist eine gute Geschichte, aber. Aber es scheint definitiv wie eine Geschichte, weißt du? Mhm. Und besonders wenn jemand sagt, das waren seine Erfahrungen. Richtig.
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Oh, na, siehst du, jetzt gibt es viele Motive. Ob es die Regierung ist oder jemand, mit dem sie auf den Weg gehen, etc. Und so wird es jetzt müde.
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Oh, look, that's the way you gotta do it, man. How many times do you hear about these robberies and all of a sudden they're trying to offload it right away or their spending gets crazy and you just gotta, look, you keep living the life you got and then you just don't gotta worry about money.
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Exactly.
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Ja, Mann, ich bin so, wow, das ist nicht der Lifestyle, den du vorher rockst.
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Yeah, I mean, it's a good spy story. It's a good, like... Another cool one. Another cool one, you know, the government, like, shut them down and...
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got to them and covered it up yeah i mean look i'm sure a ton of different stuff like this has happened just this year from the government you know what i'm saying so it's not it's not far-fetched at all to think that like hey this this could happen um yeah then again it's like looking for a little bit a little crumb you know just little crumbs just a little nibble how are you gonna get that though when it's just like the dude liked the swim he went to go swim he didn't come back
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Right.
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nefarious devices are out there yeah you know shake hands with the wrong person boom rub elbows steak dinner and then you're just done yeah the world of being a spy is like it's crazy yeah like obviously movies exaggerate everything but i do very much feel like there's a lot of realism in that where it's like yeah there's people crossing people there's people with power shifting elsewhere looking for their own best interest etc
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Ja, ich meine, das, ich, du weißt, ich bin, wie mein Gutscheck war, es ist ein natürlicher Typ der Situation hier, richtig? Wir sind richtig. Der Junge hat sich einfach über seinen Kopf eingegangen oder die Natur hat sich ein bisschen aggressiv in diesem Moment und hat ihn weggezogen. Und ja, er hat vorhandene Verletzungen oder Bedingungen und das wird sich zu dem komponieren.
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Oh, yeah, that unfortunate situation where it's just like, you know, for the family, we gotta stay together.
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Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
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Ja. Ja, sieh, das Ding ist, dass es wirklich keine Beweise gab, dass seine Frau auch mit ihm weggegangen ist.
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Außer, dass sie auf der Straße ist, aber wir sind auch ein paar Männer, weißt du? Ja, und deshalb hat er seine Familie verlassen und so. Richtig, richtig. Ja, ich meine, es ist ein Geheimnis, weißt du? Und dann, wenn du einen Politiker hast, ist es wie, oh Mann, was die Sache ist, wir lieben es alle, zu hören, weil es ist wie, was sind die faszinierenden Theorien, weißt du?
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Es gab einen Spion und er ging in diese Richtung. Oder es gab eine Verhandlung und sie gingen in diese Richtung. Oder sie verletzten ihr Land. Es gibt so viele erstaunliche Wege, wie man einen Politiker so verletzen kann.
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Oh ja. Oh, definitiv. Aber am Ende ist es so, oh, und wenn sie einfach verletzt wurden?
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Yeah, there's a lot of very interesting stories and cool ways to spin it, but I don't know. It was like a submarine from China rolled up close enough where he took a bow down and they got him out. I just think that he loved getting into the ocean and his passion took it.
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As you know, you're listening to this podcast. We reference movies a lot, like we did Deep Blue Sea.
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Movie Club is where we get to watch all these movies that we're passionate about with you guys. If not, you get to listen to us discuss and break down the plot, which is always fun. And we give our opinions on the movies that we like. And we take turns bringing a movie to the forefront for not only each other to watch, but for you to watch and experience. It's a good time.
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We're in our terrible movie era.
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Das war ein sehr guter, sehr empfiehlt. Aber mit Either Way sind das viele verschiedene Wege, um uns als independentes Geschäft zu unterstützen. Und wir freuen uns auf die Möglichkeit, Woche nach Woche hier zu sein, um dich zu unterhalten. Also danke.
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Wer ist nach ihm? Ja, richtig. Das wird in der Theorie, wenn nicht in der Handlung, in Spiel kommen. Ich meine, es ist die Politik. Die Politik ist schmutzig. Sie ist schmutzig. Es ist ein Zirkus.
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Es ist ziemlich, ziemlich schlecht. Es ist ziemlich schmutzig, auch die Leute, die sich denken, es ist immer so, es ist immer so, es ist immer so, es ist immer so, es ist immer so,
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Ja, fühlst du dich, dass es nie so sein wird, nicht wegen der sozialen Medien?
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Ich glaube, wenn du ein Politiker bist, dann gehst du nur schwimmen. Es gibt viele Leute. Es gibt viele Leute.
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Disappearance of Harold Holt | How Australia's Prime Minister Vanished Without a Trace
Ja, okay. Es sieht aus, als wäre es ein Fluss und alles.
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Das ist so weit, wie du wirklich gehen musst. Und dann sieht man immer wieder einen Surfer und er sagt, verdammt, sie müssen kalt sein. Wie insuliert ist das Suet?
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Right, so he really, really enjoyed it. Ja, es ist cool, dass sie so eine Leidenschaft haben. Es ist wirklich so etwas, das man versuchen kann, sich hineinzuholen.
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Oh, Geheimnisse, Mann. Ich fühle mich, dass diese immer die meisten Geheimnisse sind, für irgendeinen Grund. Ich fühle mich, dass sie immer die, wie... Wann? Wo? Wer? Wie? Wie? Wie? Wie? Wie? Wie? Wie? Wie? Wie? Wie? Wie?
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Ja, was siehst du? Ja, ich meine, da ist ein Typ, der sich einfach auf dem Das sieht aus wie Pride Rock, sicher. Ein paar Leute hinter ihm. Ja. Ja, sie schauen rum. Das erinnert mich an, ich denke, in den letzten Wochen gab es einen sozialen Medien-Influencer, der auf einem Rock war, der ähnlich war wie dieser. Und er wurde einfach weggewaschen, weil die Tide sie ziemlich hart verletzt hat.
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Unerwartet. Oh mein Gott. Ja, und es ist einfach so gefährlich, die Wasser. Sehr gefährlich. Ja, du weißt einfach nie, wie es aussieht. Und dann wird man einfach ausgeschüttet. Es ist einfach so, dass alles, was du schaffst, schmerzt. Alter. Ja, das ist furchtbar. Also, wenn ich diesen Jungen sehe, stehe ich da und sage, geh runter!
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Disappearance of Harold Holt | How Australia's Prime Minister Vanished Without a Trace
Ich weiß nicht, was ich sage, ich sage dir, dass es tief in den Wasser ist, wo wir einfach nicht gehen können, weil du weißt, dass die Druck und alles, es ist einfach so, ich weiß nicht, jedes Mal sind wir so, oh, wir haben dieses Ding entdeckt, wie super weit in die Wasser und es ist so, das ist verrückt, weil es einfach kalt ist und es ist komplette Dunkelheit.
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Oh, sir. Yeah. It's just even the strongest swimmers like just succumb to the power of the ocean. It's wild.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
That's good because then I don't want to sit here and go like, oh, was this small little group of like three scientists going, hey, maybe we can make a name for ourselves, maybe a buck or two. A lot harder when you start roping in everybody.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
and if you're more right and if you're willing to have like a bunch of other people come into as well then it's like more than likely you're not trying to do this whole scam thing right or just like sure yeah and you come in too and you come in you join us it's like all right well they're they're genuinely genuine about what they're doing
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And I was like, oh, it just gives you jitters, dude. It just gives you jitters. You know, like that's how it would go down.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
Image A. Image A. There's two of them there. Different lights. All right, so the first image, we have two images side by side. The one on the left has that kind of, let me say, kind of U-shaped, like a really open V. The dots are between smaller dots and larger dots. Then on the right, it's that same shape.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
tighter formation and the dots are more of a broken circle i don't know they kind of like droop down a little bit but they're consistent with each other yeah like a boomerang shape almost yeah it's like a like a soft v pattern But then if we're looking at the other image, there's like four of them. And yeah, it's more consistent. That's kind of like two rows.
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Yeah, that's good moments. Good moments in the movie.
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And the two rows are made up of larger dots and smaller dots. This looks weird, man. And this consistently was flying across the night sky.
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I would be like invasion, invasion.
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Like the whole night sky is is what's very terrifying to me. I'm like, uh, government. Yeah, yeah. Hello, government. 911, what do we do? Do we, uh, hello, government. Are we taking a look at this? Just want to make sure it's not an invasion. If it's you guys, that's fine. If you're trying to read minds or, like, I don't know, do some kind of military stuff. That's okay.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
civilians are seeing this and the other half is if you are the you know some kind of alien extraterrestrial being scouting you also don't give a damn that you're being spotted right and that's terrifying yeah you won't believe it and then the government's like i will just deny it right you know isn't that crazy or the aliens were just like there's nothing you're gonna be able to do to stop us anyway yeah there's nothing can be done nothing can be done we're gonna do what we want to do
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
Yeah, I think as like an extraterrestrial mystery, this is by far, I think, one of the more terrifying ones. Yeah. I think most of them are not terrifying. You know, it's like you see lights, patterns in the sky, stuff like that. I think this one is just like the size of it and the consistency. I'm just like, oh. Mine kind of wanders a little bit.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
You got to have someone with the, you know, maybe they didn't have someone that was the DSLR guy. You know what I'm saying? Right. The high aperture camera guy. They're just, you know, sitting there with a bag full of lenses and you go, this is my moment. I've been talking about all my different lenses and my little accessories for my camera. And now you need me.
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Would have been great to have that guy.
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I guess the thing is, like, if it was real, I mean, who's to say it would just be one, like, a handful of cases, you know? Like, I guess it would be, like, there could be 700 cases where it's just, like, ah, they just kept coming back.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
Yeah, which you'll love to see. You'll see other people in the field kind of going like, OK, I don't know, like just to be skeptical. Does that person have anything to gain? You know what I mean? By jumping on and trying to validate this as something that was unexplainable.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
That's not what those photos look like. They're just not. They look like they're lights in the sky, not a full-blown reflection of a light from the bottom.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
yeah that's the thing about like photography is you start messing with it you know some people yeah i remember people should be like it's a ghost it's like well no they just had a longer exposure yeah some ghosting effect you know where there's like a or double exposure
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
Yeah, wait a second. Wouldn't they hear that? I mean, that doesn't necessarily mean that the birds would make noises, but... I mean, if they were so consistently flying over, is it also like a migration season? Why was it so predictable every night?
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
I'm just going to just start cutting out little pictures, like outlines of squonks, just sticking them on my wall with names.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
I mean, it's got to be super low, especially if you're going to go with the theory of like the lights are reflecting off of the bellies. Right. Of these birds. Okay. So how low is this bird then?
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
You had something to believe in. Depending on the subspecies. Damn it. You're going to make this clean and straightforward for once? Subspecies of plovers?
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
You know what? Remove him. Put him back in and then remove him again. Remove him? Yeah. Remove him and then bring him back in so you can remove him again. Yeah. Come on, man. What do you mean? It's totally explainable, but you know what? You're just going to have to find out on your own. Oh, don't give me that. He's got nothing.
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What is this like? Like, I don't know. Like, hey, I tested it and it's true. It's true.
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I'm like, none of this means anything unless you can actually tell us something. Right. Sitting here going like, I know it's like I need to know exactly what you think, you know.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
Very much so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My dad works in Nintendo. Okay. You got anything aside from that to prove it? That is frustrating. I think this might be like the first time we've ever had a theory or just go. Yeah, I know what it is. I'm just not going to tell you.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
Yeah. Yeah. And so to protect them, I'm just going to feed you more BS. Come on, man. That scientists say exist. Okay. They're out there.
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What a crock of shit. A bunch of BS, dude.
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That's a plane. But it is very wide. Very, very wide.
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Yeah, it's like a stealth bomber type plane.
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Why would its speed be so low though? I mean, it's above stall speed you're saying.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
It is, though, because there's no really like center cylinder piece to it like you'd normally think you'd see, right? With the little tail at the end. Yeah, that's true. It doesn't really have a body. I guess it's like a pod in the front nose of it, right?
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
Yeah, because you're saying like 450.
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They lined that thing up with lights.
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Yeah, just absolutely be terrified. Yeah, for sure.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
I mean, it could be an exaggeration, but also, you know, we're going off of what people said. No. Absolutely.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
Honestly, kind of leaning towards it like being like, I don't think it's a plane that was flying that low, right? I feel like it could be some kind of military thing that they didn't disclose, but. I don't know, even like if you think meteor shower, the way it's, I feel like a meteor shower is usually grouped together more than, like the formation for this doesn't read meteor shower to me.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
And then the consistency between all the small lights and all the big lights being roughly the same, as opposed to just pieces that have been broken off in the atmosphere. I don't want to say aliens, though. You know what I mean?
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
There's, like, not enough to say that, but that's more, like, where I lean towards, because I don't, going with the other ones, I don't really have, I don't really think it is.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
We haven't looked at all the angles.
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And it's like there's really not much... Oh, man. Yeah, you can get pulled in a handful of different directions. I do like the fact that a bunch of scientists are there. There's pictures. And on top of that, you also have people seeing you on a consistent basis. So... You had experts and civilians seeing it. So there's something, you know what I mean?
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
It's not like, oh, you know, I think I saw something out there in the middle of the night. And now a ton of people saw something and we just can't explain it.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
There's something there.
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I mean, they're big brain buff scientists. You understand? So, I mean, just the rap sheet that they had between all of them is nuts. And so it also is, it's nice to know, you know, it's not just like, oh, it's just a pedestrian looking up at the sky. It's like, okay, well, these guys, you know, they're masters in their craft. They studied the scientists.
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They're studying the sciences and all that kind of stuff. Like, I wouldn't know what I'm looking at, you know.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
I already know, man. Aliens. Here we go. It's gotta be.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
Yeah, but the thing... So my thing is, like, as you're telling me this and describing to me what they were describing... It's like, okay, well, if they weren't lined up perfectly, then maybe it isn't some type of craft or machine, because then it would be. But then also you're like, well, the lights are bigger than the stars.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
So then it makes you go, is it just because it's just angles and depth perception that are playing? You know what I mean? Interesting, yeah. Like, checking the eye here. Like, maybe it is properly lined up, but just because of the angle being so low to the ground and the...
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
the thing is the thing the thing is though because obviously we want to believe we want to be true yes yes hit hit me with it and i just know one theories you'd be like some experimental like aircraft i'm like god get that out of here man like give me hope give me something you know what i mean don't make it make sense to me in the sense that like it's a government thing you know what i'm saying yeah yeah like ah
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
and the height that it's currently at and then like maybe that's why it seems like it's off it seems like it's curved but it's really not yeah i mean maybe some variation because of that because of the perspective yeah it just gives you a war it's a bit of warping because of the perspective from the ground
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Also, that's terrifying.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
It's just so wide. yeah and then from there you go all right it's not like someone playing a prank and strapping a bunch of little flashlights onto some like ducky legs or some goose legs or swans oh but that's a good idea it's a pretty good idea we're gonna see the austin lights and it's just gonna be a bunch of ducks with lights on
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
yeah yeah so it's not like something kind of like that but then like yeah then you start to think okay military aircraft something they're experimenting with not that wide could be right it just makes it less so and so then you see your mind starts to wander into the realm of like the possibility that's the wingspan must be that's so big It's huge.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
It's terrifying. It's like mothership stuff.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
Oh, we'll get in there. We'll talk about all those theories. What else? Was there some kind of like balloon test going on or something like that? I don't know. We'll get into it.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
that's probably what's going to make the most sense, but I hate it.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
I hate it. And then also my mind instantly goes to the news footage that was in the movie signs when I think it was like Brazil or Spain or something like that, when they had just the lights show up above the city at night and then how they're just like tons of lights showed up above the city just hours ago and everyone just like filming and stuff.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
But then. Yeah. We didn't hear it. It's just because no one's talking about any audible cues. What could this be? Man, if this is a goose with a light, it's cooking.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
Ain't gonna be no drone show. It just keeps adding more mystery to it. I just can't. I know. And then also I'm like, well, what if it was a balloon? The speed would be too fast. And so. And also like uniform, the fact that balloons would kind of like. Yeah, wave around.
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Lubbock Lights | The Unexplained UFO Sighting Witnessed by Scientists
Also, they're going that fast. They're not going that fast that they are. It's also just like, I don't know. I feel like it'd be shredded in a way. I don't know man. I'm intrigued. I have no. I have no idea like what the more that one of the few times for like a extraterrestrial possible alien type UFO thing. I don't know where these theories are going to go, so I'm very excited.
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And then how Merrill, his brother, Mel Gibson's brother, Joaquin Phoenix in that movie was like in the closet. And then he was like watching the video and it was like daytime and they're like, the lights are gone, but they're still there because we saw a bird fly through the air and like hit like an invisible wall and then like fell to the ground. They found it and it cracked his neck.
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So I was humbled by that.
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Big back for a Big Mac.
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No, really quick. In Mexico, we had this guy come up to us and he's like, are you guys twins? We're like, twins? I was flattered. We get sisters, but twins. Twins was OD.
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Right.
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Okay, so five second drop. Oh God, have mercy on us. Just curious. Not like I was going to do anything. No, a thousand percent. Yeah. It's those intrusive thoughts.
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He was gonna turn back into a rat if he didn't get the ice cream before midnight. Chance, come on!
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Every time I'm in a museum, I'm like, what if I just went insane and ripped all the paintings off the wall?
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Yeah, I was about to say, this sounds like something just took over him and he did it.
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It's just the girlfriend. And he left her behind.
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Everything on Reddit is real.
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Well, you don't know when you're gonna walk past a man with a loose grip on an ice cream. You don't know when that's gonna happen. That's true. I don't. He's holding it like this.
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And I'm just like, that's... That's not right. That's a lot. 20 years later, he was like, I was dared to not do a dare for 20 years, and now, got you!
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You just kick him on the leg down. If we both did that, the couch would fall apart.
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And he has his final part of the collection, his ex-wife. Yeah, wow.
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That's awesome.
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I'm gonna give it a nine.
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Wow. Maybe he would be a good father.
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He didn't go to the baseball game.
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No, it was worth interrupting.
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I knew you were gonna do it! I knew you were gonna do it!
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I was about to if you weren't going to.
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That's a weird way to put that.
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It's not convincing. The only thing he did right was tell her.
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Whoa, she came out of the dream, and they're happily ever after.
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He's gonna move to wherever she is or something.
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Imagine him having never Googled the man he's a guest with. He's like, I've never Googled him.
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But doesn't that make it?
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Wilder? Is real?
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Right, here's the 10.
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That is a 10. I wonder if it's marionette or if it's, like, hand in.
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This is crazy. So that can't be marionette.
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The real Greg comes in, he's like, wait. And it goes back over and it's the puppet with the friends. What's happening?
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I think Arasha and I did this skit in Bit City. That's crazy. I feel bad for him. That's a, I don't know. Yes, I'd love to see the puppet.
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I would be humiliated if someone was like, that looks just like you. I'd be like, I'm gonna go drive off a cliff.
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I did react to that earlier in the thing. I was like, six?
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They did like, paddywhack with each other's genitals or something?
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So I am about to cry, which is funny.
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That is so beautiful. Yeah, I was about to cry and then I remembered what the puppet looked like.
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That's a three out of 10 Y. I like that she addressed it.
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Well, first of all, pronounce it properly. Ibiza.
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You're all the way in the water.
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He has to be gay.
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He's probably bi and never experimented at all. He could be bi.
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This guy's kinda quirky.
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So that's the best we have. Which is awesome to be a fish. Right. It's like, oh, I'm gonna go watch the little things do their little thing. It's like, okay, well, buy a ticket and give me the money then. Whoa. Yeah, the fish make the proceeds from the aquarium. As you know, as we all know, all the fish in an aquarium are rich.
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You can be straight and do those things too, right?
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That's what I was thinking. That's what I was thinking. Let's disguise her as like a little twink.
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I mean, the main take is like, this isn't gonna work out, obviously he needs to go do this, and that doesn't work with her, so this obviously, this just, this isn't gonna work out this way. He should still go on the gaycation, because that's his journey. They should break up, and she should find someone who doesn't wanna go do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just wanna do this.
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Oh yeah, I'm ready for this.
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And now we're onto the real reason we're all here.
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There's so much around it that they can't just face the, it's so insane.
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Right, there's definitely homophobia in the story. Sure. Like, there's that, some of the reactions, I mean, yeah, it's like, you know, you're cheating, ugh, but to be like, I'm sorry, it's like, okay, you're adding on a layer of also, oh my god, my adult son is gay, I'm gonna go blow up, you know?
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Or gayish or whatever.
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done the gaycation at home with one person and had a mutual experience.
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That's right, baby. Just like me.
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Yeah, but you're going into it like, I just want to meet some people. You're not, I want to connect with that person.
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That community's usually a little, they're usually sweethearts. So I've heard. It's a lucky community to have to do all this with them.
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They're like, let's make a sandwich.
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You have an ex-husband, you're dating me, I have a shrine to your ex-husband. Why?
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Yeah, but if they come into it, and they're just like, hey, by the way, you're hilarious, love your shit. Hey, let's get a drink.
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I love your take. My take is like, oh, you know the mask I put out. Are you ready to be disappointed?
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And you're like, he's taking me somewhere. Oh my god, he's taking me on a trip.
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I love surprises.
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Then you're locked into being entertaining forever in your personal life.
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Maybe there's poison in it.
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Well, probably something like, because you know they can't swim.
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Hell no! Hell no! They would have eaten you like a damn Sunday roast.
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Get that shit on the barbecue, flint iron in the mouth, poison sack dripping down their... Okay.
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Okay, okay, fucking relax, calm down.
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Good night, we're all cooking pigs feet and onions and their shit. Good night, Linda. Were you cooking a turd in there? Put that fucking lid back on. I didn't know we were making turd stew, Linda. Put that shit back on there. The whole, open the window. This whole fucking kitchen smells like dog shit.
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By the way, by the way, I... Massive respect. And I'll stay on a knee the whole time. I appreciate you. I don't want to assert anything, anything at all. Can you say one time for me, hail Supreme Leader? Hail Supreme Leader Broski. We are honored by your presence. Please leave us under the Christmas tree. Lots of presents. Hail Supreme Leader Broski. Hail Supreme Leader Broski.
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Hail Supreme Leader Broski. Hail Supreme Leader Broski. Thank you so much for allowing me to have that Nutri-Grain bar when I got here.
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I told you to get out of the water or else. What'd I say? I'll give you a reason to cry. That's what Mother Nature said.
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Because it feels good. Damn. Shit. What else you want to know? My bra size?
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Oh, y'all, shit! It's hot as fuck under this dragon mask! Fuck! Shut up!
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That's crazy. He wanted that thing stinking.
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Like, shut up! Shut up! That's ridiculous!
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Napoleon letter to Josephine, bathe.
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He liked it stinky. Devil man!
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My sister had a baby, and I took it over after she passed away, and the baby lost all its legs and arms, and now it's just a stump, but I take care of it with my wife, and it's growing, and it's fairly happy, and it's difficult because I'm working a second shift at the factory to put food on the table, but all the love I see in that little guy's face, it just makes it worth it in the end.
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Because I misgendered Fhagar.
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Fucking reboot, put it in right, shut the fuck up.
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Are you not entertained? Halt! Stop right there! Those who stand before me, prepare to die.
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It was just one guy by the fucking camera.
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You're not thinking about our boy, Seamus O'Flanagan.
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I need, please, sir. Bam! Zap! Wabow! Lickety sea smoke!
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That's how fucking bad it was. Mommy, help me, mommy.
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And I'm like, oh, I'm gonna be fired?
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Ladies and gentlemen, God bless America. God bless our troops. And gentlemen, start your engines.
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Well, yeah. What's wrong? Hold on, wait, what's wrong? Everyone smelled like puss. No, come back, where are you going?
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Right. Oh, holy fuck, oh, Jesus Christ!
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Fall in line, soldier! How fucking hard is it to pick up WhatsApp and double tap a message? Shut up! Would you look Sylvia Plath in the eye and tell her to not be depressed? It's not always about you!
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It's not about you all the time! Is that okay? It's not about you! Holy fuck!
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There's a big fly that just, that wasn't a fly, that was like a moth. Did you see that in the video? That was a huge bug. Ew, it's on the desk!
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All right, there's been a murder.
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Room reveal. Is he 16? Maybe.
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The Red Bull kicked in, I just realized.
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Well, that's several questions I would say. What am I talking about?
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Can I have a gin and tonic? Um, yeah. Let me get out my fucking chef's book.
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What the hell? What the helly? What the hellyante? What the helly House of Commons?
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Let me go put on my chef's apron and hat. Would you like a fucking chive garnish? Get the fuck out of here.
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The steak and lobster? What else? The fucking surf and turf? Fuck you!
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She's my, she's my, oh my God, my Mickey phone.
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I saw him in person. I saw it with Stanley, of course. And he walks out on stage and I'm slapping his leg. I'm like, he's like, I know, I know. He's right there.
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Because he's right there. We were second row. He's right there, bro. Please. Danny Ocean.
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Why would you, why would you knowing, knowing how intense my thing is for Jack?
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Did you watch it? Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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Can I say something? Can I speak freely? Great movie. Enjoyed it probably way more than I should have.
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He's sexy in it, though, so hello! Hello!
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Killing me softly. He ain't heavy. He's talking dirty to me. I'm not a girl yet, not a woman.
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See, and they gave me Jon Snow. That's stupid as fuck. That's stupid as shit. That's stupid.
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Because I... I'm going to leave the body where it is. I'm a coward.
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Okay. Here's my report. If this is a paywall, I'm going to freak out. I'm Robb Stark. What? No. I'm King of the North.
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They really made her hold back on some of those riffs.
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No, this has never happened before. I don't fucking know what to do. You act like I know what to do. I literally just sit here and I give out snacks. Like, everyone's fucking mad.
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Me if I was a flight attendant.
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I don't know. Can I have a vodka and tonic?
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I literally said, oh, it was like seeing an old friend. Tom Clincarney, he popped up after season one.
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It's the Thanksgiving. We're giving thanks and eating Popeye's turkey. Popeye's turkey. Popeye's turkey. Popeye's turkey. Popeye's turkey.
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I'm so excited.
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I actually just got so mad I went silent. I actually just got so pissed off I went quiet. I actually didn't have anything to say. I was so mad.
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Let's check it.
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The goddess of the hunt, Demeter. That feels... Hold on. If I got that right... Who is the goddess of the hunt? Diana.
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This is low-key me. That's what I fucking look like. Editors, put me side by side.
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No! Ask me something again. Anyway, guys, seriously.
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I have to poop.
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No, not Dublin. Maynooth? Ballsbridge? Okay, Broski Nation meet up in Ballsbridge. In Penistown in Ballsbridge. Okay. Anyway...
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It doesn't always have to be, well, I just thought that it was a little bit careless to the way the thing was. It was poorly put together and poorly, there was only three sets.
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Forehead reveal. Oh god! Get it down! Oh my god! Oh!
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Oh, wow. I don't know why I never thought about Russia having mountains. I guess y'all got all kinds of topography out there, huh? Y'all are rocking with a lot out there. Some of these forests are beautiful. They run mostly through the Russian Federation from the coast of the Arctic Ocean to the river Ural and northwestern Kazakhstan. Wow, the more you know. Go back.
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Oh, the reindeer in the Ural Mountains. Other than a few brief references in Aristotle, Theophrastus, Julius Caesar, and Pliny, there is little written testimony before 1533 when Gustav I of Sweden sent a gift of 10 reindeer to Albert I of Prussia and absolutely nothing to connect them with a 4th century bishop from Asia Minor.
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The Reformation changed everything because of Martin Luther's insistence that Jesus Christ is the only mediator between God and man and not Santa, as some would have you believe. Most early Protestants rejected the Catholic cult of saints out of hand.
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Although they were happy to recognize that those who had led uncommonly holy lives should be held up as examples of Christian virtue, they refused to believe that anyone could intercede with God on another's behalf and regarded the veneration of saints as a form of idolatry.
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Any form of worship or celebration that seemed to point towards the human instead of the divine was hence discouraged, if not actively forbidden. This spelled trouble for dear Saint Nicholas. While he was seen as sufficiently virtuous to be included in the Lutheran liturgical calendar, whoever wrote this did a beautiful job. Can I just say really quick, I'm like blown away by that sentence.
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This spelled trouble for St. Nicholas. While he was seen as sufficiently virtuous to be included in the Lutheran liturgical calendar, the revelry with which his feast was traditionally celebrated was definitely suspect.
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No doubt it would have been easiest just to ban it, but Luther was shrewd enough to realize that gift-giving had become so central to the festive season that it would be difficult, if not impossible, to stamp it out. To overcome this problem, Luther simply transferred the practice to Christmas Day itself. It's always the mother-tucking Christians, dude.
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It is the mother-tucking Christians that are like, I think I'm feeling like rewriting history. I think I feel like this should be about us right now. Okay, guys. POV, I have a meeting with all my other personalities to discuss our rebrand. Literally the Catholic Church doing a reformation. Ridiculous. Oh, I think that should be on Christmas Day.
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To overcome this problem, Luther simply transferred the practice to Christmas Day itself and focused attention on Christ, God's original gift to mankind. Boring! I want Hot Wheels.
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It's, it's Christ on the cross. I wanted a Webkinz. Thank you. Thanks, mom and dad. Christ on the cross for Christmas again this year. I wanted a little pet shop. I wanted a littlest pet shop. I wanted an Apple Watch. I wanted an Apple Watch. I don't want Christ. Luther never would have understood Amazon Prime. Luther never would have gotten one day shipping Amazon Prime. Okay.
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The joy you feel from placing an Amazon order and seeing that little blue check with the yellow that says Prime. Yeah. Yeah. That's actually going to be pure bliss. He'll never experience that. And he never did. Although this did not necessarily stop people from celebrating the day in style, it did mean that from then on, presents would be brought not by St.
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I've gone down to the river, the Broski Nation River. It's dried up, okay? I've gone down to the river looking around me. Wow, a beautiful delta rich with life and fertility. And I look around. I bathe in the water. I'm doing baptisms in the Broski Nation River, okay? And suddenly, as I'm in the Broski Nation river, I look around and there's all of you.
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Nicholas, but by the Christkind, or Christkindl, Christ child, who was usually portrayed as a brightly arrayed infant with wings and a halo. Girl, they had taken Santa to court. What is this? The examination and trial of old father Christmas together with his clearing by the jury at the Ephesus held at the town of difference in the county of diff content. What the hell is this? Okay.
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Even in some Protestant areas, however, the legacy of St. Nicholas lived on, albeit in a modified form. In England, a Father Christmas figure was already well established by the reign of Elizabeth I. Clearly modeled after St. Nicholas, he was held to embody the spirit of Christmas and, as an engraving from Josiah King's The Examination and Trial of Old Father Christmas, 1686.
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suggests, was generally pictured as a burly man with a heavy fur-lined coat, a pointed meter-like hat, and a beard. In some areas of Belgium and France, de Kerstman, or Pierre Norel, Pierre Norel, came to play a similar role, but he still didn't have any reindeer. Okay, we're getting there, we're getting there.
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He seems to have made his debut in Knickerbocker's History of New York in 1809 by Washington Irving. A collection of satirical sketches, this portrayed him as a fat Dutchman, sporting a low, broad-brimmed hat, a huge pair of Flemish trunk hose, and a long pipe, and riding across the sky in a wagon full of presents.
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But not until the publication of The Children's Friend, a New Year's present to the little ones, did a reindeer come into play. One of the poems in this curious little book, 1821, began with the following fateful verse. Old Santy Claus with much delight, his reindeer drives this frosty night. Or chimney tops and tracks of snow to bring his yearly gifts to you.
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What prompted the anonymous author to introduce a reindeer is a puzzle. An unsolved mystery. Sounds like a case for me. One possibility is that it was simply down to the weather. Although there was always a chance of snow at Christmas, the previous decade had seen some of the coldest weather on record. On December 24th, 1811, today, 213 years ago, 213 years ago, today, wherever you're sitting.
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Noah Webster reported that more than a foot of snow had fallen in New Haven, and in 1816, snow had even fallen in June. That winter was especially harsh. Okay, don't care. What is happening? Okay, they were slaying.
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While there is no record of reindeer being used to pull any sleighs in New York, anyone interested in Santa could have been forgiven for thinking of the animals that were used to pull them in stereotypically snowy regions. Alaska would have been an obvious point of reference.
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Although it was not yet an American tradition, the use of reindeer by indigenous peoples was already well known, and it would have been a small step to hitch them to Santa's ride. Enter Rudolph. The number of reindeer soon grew. On December 23rd, 1823, the poem A Visit from St. Nicholas, also known as The Night Before Christmas, 1823, appeared in the New York Sentinel, Sentinel, Sentinel,
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Later attributed to Clement Charles Moore, this described a chubby, if diminutive, diminutive, diminutive, diminutive. This described a chubby, if diminutive, St. Nicholas riding across the sky on a sleigh pulled by eight tiny reindeer called Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Comet, Cupid, Dunder, and Blixom. Later, two more were added.
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Wow, a bountiful harvest of so many of my dearest and closest friends and supporters. How blessed we are, Broski Nation, to come together this holiday season, hug each other tight. Metaphorically speaking, we're all parasocial. I know you guys don't like to interact with each other. That's okay. I know you guys aren't really big on interactions.
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In L. Frank Baum's story, The Life and Adventures of Santa Claus, 1902, Santa's companions were arranged into five pairs. Racer and Pacer, Fearless and Peerless, Flossy and Gossy, Ready and Steady, and Feckless and Speckless. I like Ready and Steady. That's cute. At about this time, Santa Claus was re-exported back to Europe. They extradited Santa back to fucking Sweden. No! No!
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They're like, we got to get this big fat fuck out of here. Where do we send him? Sweden, France, Germany, Turkey, Russia, Italy. Where do we send the fat fuck? How about keep him in New Haven, Connecticut? How about that, where he belongs? Because Santa Claus is an American, and he has rights, and he cannot be tried without a jury.
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Okay, I forgot the rights that he's afforded, but he is afforded rights, okay? And I can look it up right now, and I know you're live on Facebook. I can record, too. I can record two. That man is Santa Claus, and I know him. He brings gifts to my kids. And I, look, okay, we may have been intimate. I've been intimate with Santa Claus. And I'm telling you right now, he is not a criminal.
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Do not extradite him. Do not deport him back to a country that he doesn't know about. He's American. That was my impression of a Karen trying to convince you not to deport her situationship Santa Claus. A Republican Karen, by the way. Let's talk about when he was extradited back to Europe, where he gradually merged into the figures whose attributes he had been given.
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He also took his reindeer with him, but not until much later did Rudolph join his troop. In 1939, Montgomery Ward department stores commissioned Robert L. May to write a storybook which could be given to children visiting their branches over the Christmas period. Visiting their branches? In May's tale, Rudolph was shunned by the other reindeer because of his bright red nose. Freak!
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But one year, when fog threatens the delivery of Christmas presents, Santa spots it glowing in the gloom and asks him to light the way as the troop's ninth member. Though initially intended as a local giveaway, May's story proved so popular that it later inspired a cartoon, a song, and no end of films and books. So this was in the 40s. This was post-war. 1948, 1949, that's when Rudolph came out.
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That's crazy. New lore just dropped! New Lord just dropped to the 500-year-old Bishop Saint man. Since then, Santa's reindeer have been reimagined countless times. They've been renamed, pared down, beefed up, and altered in almost every way. But it is now impossible to think of Santa without them. And if you listen carefully this Christmas Eve, you might just hear them on your roof too.
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I just got chills. I just got chills. I just got filled with childlike whimsy and wonder. Alexander Lee, he wrote this. And God bless you, my sir. Alexander Lee is a fellow in the Center for the Study of the Renaissance of Warwick University. His latest book, Machiavelli, His Life and Times, is now available. Wow. Gotta pick that up. Big fan of you, Alexander Lee. This was beautifully written.
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You guys aren't big on social interactions because it requires a sort of social charm. Okay, I know that it's tough, but stay with me. Metaphorically speaking, we all band together and we tackle 2025 with a renewed vengeance. Okay, how do you guys like that? I'm taking this off and I'm turning the lights on. Welcome back, Brewski Nation! We've done about, god, it feels like 175 episodes this year.
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How do you even begin to research, like, the legend of Santa Claus? Like, how do you even... I have no idea. Like, especially when a legend like that, which, what else other than, I guess, Christ himself or any organized religion with a sort of prophet figure? Is there a documented history or a sort of global phenomenon of this figure, you know, visiting and bringing gifts and whatever?
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I think that's so, like, uniquely Christmas. So, this is...
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That song is so good. You know what else I think should be a Christmas song but isn't? Damage Gets Done by Hosier and Brandi Carlile. That song sounds like a Christmas song to me. It's like you can almost hear bells in the background. And at the end, they have this part that's like, All I needed was someone And there's like bells in the background. Love.
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That's genuinely my favorite Christmas song. My favorite Christmas song? Black Dog by Led Zeppelin. How father Christmas found his baby. How touching, y'all. Seriously. And we learned some new words. Hagiography. Meter. That's a bishop hat. The Ural Mountains are in northern Kazakhstan and across Russia. Origin of gingerbread houses. Let's try to tap into that.
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They originated in Germany, Germany, between the 16th and 18th centuries. The tradition became popular after the publication of the Brothers Grimm's Hansel and Gretel in 1812, which features a house made of gingerbread in the forest. Let me tell you something about gingerbread. Let me tell you something about ginger snap. Let me tell you something about any of that sort of spicy cookie.
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I want to put it in my mouth. I am clinically addicted to a sort of ginger snap cookie. The spices, you know, they make that big bubble toil, bubble in trouble, big thing you can make around Christmas time on the stove where it's like oranges, cloves, cinnamon, garlic. And Not garlic, but all those. And like apple cider, whatever. And you just boil it on the stove.
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And it's like old oranges or whatever. You just throw it in there and you keep it on a simmer and it just makes the house smell amazing. I forget what that is. There's probably a word for that. It's like a form of... What's that word? Come on, come on. Potpourri. Potpourri. It's like a form of potpourri. The inspiration for gingerbread houses.
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The tradition of decorating gingerbread with gold leaf and foil, the popularity of gingerbread at festivals and fairs in medieval Europe. Oh, I bet that was like a luxury in medieval Europe. The practice of shaping gingerbread cookies into seasonal shapes like birds for fall and flowers for spring. The belief that certain gingerbread shapes were charmed or cursed. What? Let's click that link.
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It's gonna be about 40-something, okay? Really not that many. Um, it's a very interesting and strange and silly thing, coming into this room every week and giving y'all an update on my life... When exciting things happen, when devastating things happen, when global events happen, when things happen that we all just need to take pause and take a deep inhale, hold it for five, exhale for six.
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Sweet and sinister, the history of gingerbread houses. I love the internet. Like, why would you ever search this up? I did. Okay, here's what Google is saying. Gingerbread has a dark history that includes superstitions, folklore, and even witchcraft? What the hell have I tapped into? In the 17th century, some believed that witches would make gingerbread figures eat them and kill their enemies.
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That's why it's a gingerbread man? Villagers believed that gingerbread shapes were either charmed or cursed. The gingerbread man story has a dark moral about trusting others. The gingerbread man was tempted by a fox and trusted him, which led to his downfall. Gingerbread was a favorite of Queen Elizabeth I, who had it made to resemble visiting dignitaries. Elizabeth I...
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if I recall correctly, and correct me if I'm wrong, had such an insatiable sweet tooth that all of her teeth rotted out of her mouth. Like had black teeth because she was so insistent upon getting like the sweets and that was her only diet. Which, look, I get it, okay?
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If I was Queen Elizabeth I and I was in control of the British Empire, I'd be like, yeah, I'm having macaroons for lunch and dinner and breakfast every day. And if you don't give it to me, I'm going to kill you. And it's just as simple as that. I mean, I can't make the rules any clearer. Oh my God. I literally am so smart. I didn't even read this.
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In Elizabethan times, only the wealthy could afford sugar. So their blackened teeth identified them as members of the elite. How crazy is that? Gingerbread was once a symbol of fertility. This is nuts. Gingerbread lore runs so deep and crazy. That is so beautiful, though. I wonder what they used to use as icing. I think this has been a wonderful and exciting holiday episode.
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To all of you out there in Broski Nation, I wish you a peaceful and relaxing holiday shared amongst loved ones and friends. All right. Love you guys. I'll see you guys in the new year. We've got a lot of exciting shit coming. And I do miss Timothee Chalamet. I do miss him very deeply and intimately. He was so, it was electric. He's an electric person.
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I have nothing but positive, beautiful, wonderful things to say about him. I am addicted to him. We were bantering off camera for a while. He's just, I want to hang out. Timmy, if you want to come over to my house, I have got YouTube premium. I've got some Diet Cokes in the fridge. I've got a bunch of Premier Protein if you want to have some protein shakes with me.
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Yeah, we could go to like Disneyland. I don't know. Just let me know. Okay. I love y'all to bits and pieces. Y'all take care of yourselves. Y'all be good. And I'm going to go clean this micro plastic microfiber beard hair out of my throat because it's coating my throat.
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Okay, one more time. Every time I do a yoga class and they like make us do one of those breathing exercises, I'm like, this is just pissing me off. What is this helping? Okay, square breathing. I know that's like a calming technique. Maybe my mind just bucks at the idea of yoga. I'm not meant to be serene. I would love to be serene one day. I'd love to try it out. Okay, here's the deal.
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77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
What I have in mind for y'all today is a deep dive into Christmas, okay? Because why do we feed a big fat white man cookies? And why does he come into our house? And why has he enslaved a sort of native species to Canada or, you know, the Northern Isles, the reindeer? Why is this something that we embrace and sell and put on cookies? I would like to know.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
And it kind of creeps me out to be completely real with you guys. So, and I'm a Santa believer. Okay, I love Santa. I do believe in him very deeply to my core. I do love him. I do think that he is God's brother. I do think that Santa Claus is the dying light among us, to be completely fair. He is the last shred, morsel of hope. And that's a beautiful thing. And if all you can do is believe...
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
And this figure that will bring you what you want and what you need, isn't that gorgeous and beautiful? But I did actually see mommy kissing Santa Claus, and I think that that is, you know, there is no other path but divorce, right? Because you're unfaithful, you don't love each other. I mean, it's like, just go with her. You know what I mean? Go with the new girl.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
Go with the new woman, Santa Claus, because you seem to be unhappy. Because Mrs. Claus holds you down. She holds you down. She cooks, cleans, counsels you, advises you for the other 364 days a year. You're a mean, fat, old bastard, Santa. Okay. The origin of Christmas. Why does Santa have reindeer? It took a long while for Rudolph and the other reindeer to team up with Santa Claus.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
But once they did, there was no stopping them. I know that's right. Saint Nick, originally Santa Claus had nothing to do with reindeer or with Christmas. His story begins with Saint Nicholas, a fourth century bishop of Myra, Myra, in modern Turkey.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
Although little is known about his life, the few hagiographical works which have come down to us all testify to his love of children and his generosity. Um, what? According to Michael the Archimandrite, he was once told about a man who had lost all his money and was unable to provide dowries for his three daughters.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
Since this would have prevented them from getting married, they might have had to become prostitutes to support themselves. Santa took them out the trap? Santa Claus took the three hoes out the trap? Wow! It's a Christmas miracle! Also, this article is crazy. What do you mean they would have had to become prostitutes? Naturally, St.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
Nicholas was anxious to help, but did not want to shame them by giving alms openly. Instead, he created what is now referred to modernly as a pimp house. Santa became a pimp. Just kidding.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
I made that up. St. Nicholas was anxious to help, but he did not want to shame them by giving his help openly. To avoid this, he crept up to their house late at night and threw a purse of gold through the window. When their astonished father found it the next morning, he immediately sought a husband for the eldest. The next night, St. Nicholas did the same again.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
On the third night, however, the father stayed awake and caught St. Nicholas in the act. And then that's when he and Santa had started making out. Okay, so Santa was gay. Now, see, they don't say that in HistoryToday.com. They don't mention that in HistoryToday.com. Falling to his knees, he hailed the saint as his family's savior, only for St.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
Nicholas to raise him to his feet and beg him not to tell a soul about the blessings he had received. Because of such acts of generosity, St. Nicholas' feast day, December 6th, was later celebrated with the exchange of presents. This is in Turkey? In 12th century France, nuns are said to have left fruit, nuts, and treats outside the houses of poor children. At around the same date, St.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
Nicholas was also transformed into a magical bringer of gifts. Particularly in Dutch-speaking regions, Sinterklaas would sneak into poor people's houses at night and leave a few coins or a little present in their shoes. Like a turd. Well, isn't that just super, super cute? You want to know something? I read this and I have to say it because it's a tangent.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
And that's sort of what this podcast is all about. They said on the third night, he snuck in and did something else. Y'all, go see Nosferatu. This isn't even a paid ad. It comes out tomorrow, Christmas Day. I saw Nosferatu into the premiere. Oh my God, what a movie. I mean, that's how you do it. That's called gothic horror and clock it and get into it.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
Bill Skarsgård is unrecognizable as Nosferatu. I was absolutely blown away because it's based on, of course, the original Dracula by Bram Stoker. And it's amazing how close it stays to the plot. And I haven't read Dracula since college. And I literally was like, oh my God, this is exactly how I pictured it.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
Y'all remember when you watched Twilight for the first time and you were like, yeah, that's how I pictured it. It's exactly how I pictured it. Hunger Games, exactly how I pictured it. Harry Potter, exactly how I pictured it. I think that with Nosferatu, Lily Rose Depp, stop putting Lily Rose Depp in these cringy, overly sexualized roles. I need her in a Victorian period piece now.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
I need Lily Rose Depp to be doing what Saoirse Ronan's doing, okay? Somebody help her. Because that woman has so much talent. She is so versatile. And I would love to see her explore that more. She played the, like... tormented, possessed, like, tender-hearted wife so well. I believed every word that came out of her mouth. I think... Oh, this is what I was going to say.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
There's a part in Nosferatu where... Oh, my beard hairs are all over the microphone. I'm so sorry, y'all. And I'm probably breathing in all this microplastic. And what's new? What's actually new there? Nothing. There is a part where... Bill Skarsgård's character is like giving some instruction, right? And he has a crazy accent like this, except it's really dark and deep.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
And he rolls his R's and he breathes really fucking heavy and it's terrifying. He's so scary. And you don't see his face in the movie posters. You don't see his face until a good decent chunk into the movie. Um, And it's just chilling. He is just so scary. And instead of giving him, you know, I am Dracula. I will suck your blood. Like that sort of thing. And a cape. And like, I am the count.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
They gave him this dirty old jacket. Like this dirty old coat that he has slumped over his shoulders. And the arms are just a little bit too long. And his fingers are just a little bit too long. And, you know, he's got those crazy nails. It was just so like, oh, I'm horrified. Anyway, there's a part where he goes... And if you've seen Nosferatu, you know that's a really good impression.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
Go watch Nosferatu and come back and watch this and be like, and please comment, hey, that was actually really good. And while we're at it, I'm going to do an Elvis impression. And if you guys could just comment, hey, that's really good, it would mean a lot to me. Because everyone in my life shits on me. Everyone in my life shits on me. For my Elvis impression.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
they don't like it they don't want to see it because when true art is on display some people get scared and they shy away shy away from the light right they're scared no you can't be scared of true talent when you see it here's my Elvis impression hold on I got nervous I got nervous there's hair in my mouth okay ready
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
I can do better than that, actually, guys. I'm so sorry I did that. I'm so sorry that I... That was a lackluster performance, and I'd like to do it again for you.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
So this is Christmas, and what have you wrought? Guys, I miss Timothee Chalamet. I miss Timothee Chalamet. He's my best fucking friend. He's my best friend. No one understands me like Timothee Chalamet. That is my brother. Guys, what a year it has been. Seriously. Guys, it's been a long one. It's been a long and arduous but very fruitful bounty, okay? I've gone to the source.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
Can you really actually rate that one out of 10? Because I'm actually not joking. I'm not being funny. I think that's really good. And I do it for Taylor all the time. And she is such a fucking hater. She hates when I do Elvis because I don't think she really understands Elvis. I don't think she understands the voice, the tenor, the tone. Okay, I've captured it.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
And I have, in a sort of Austin Butler-esque fashion, reimagined it and delivered it here for you today. And I think that she's a hater because that took a lot of study and it took a lot of courage. I feel like no one's telling me that I'm courageous. No one's looked at me today and said, hey, you're courageous for doing that. Hey, you're talented for doing that.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
hey, you're really well-researched and well-cultured for knowing the nuance and the sort of vocal inflections that he does in Blue Christmas. No one has said that to me today. So, I don't know, just like, if you want to tell me in the comments, I would like to read it. That my Elvis impression is good. But don't listen to the first one. My God, I almost just vomited. Excuse me. Excuse me, guys.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord. Okay, let's get back to Saint Nick. For obvious reasons, okay, we're talking about Sinterklaas in Dutch-speaking regions. For obvious reasons, he was portrayed as a bishop with long, brightly colored vestments, a meter, and a beard. What is a meter? Oh, it's like a bishop hat. Interesting. Like a Pope hat. Santa was the Pope?
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
Santa's in the Popemobile, and it's being pulled by a reindeer, but it's also bulletproof. And the reindeer have bulletproof vests on. And all the reindeer have Secret Service things in their ear. He was also said to travel through the sky and to have an uncanny knack for remaining unseen. At times, St. Nicholas was even associated with certain animals. In the Netherlands, in the Nederlands,
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
There was a tradition of leaving hay for his horses. In some parts of Germany, he still rides a horse. In Eastern France, he keeps his presents in baskets carried by a donkey. And in Italy, he is often accompanied by a jovial ass. I'll show you a jovial ass. Okay? How about... All right. I'm going to self-censor. No, actually, I'm going to let it rip.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
I'll show you a jovial ass after I just had diarrhea. You know that feeling of after you had diarrhea and your stomach doesn't hurt anymore and you feel empty? That's a jovial ass. And if you don't like what I have to say on here, because sometimes I don't want to talk. A day wants to talk. I don't want to talk about my life. I don't want to talk about my problems.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
If I'm going through something, I find it very difficult to come on here and be like, here's what my poop looked like this week. Here's what my poop looked like! Poop haul! Poop dissection challenge! I just don't feel like it because sometimes life can get heavy. You know what I mean? So go ahead and rewatch this one. Rewatch the other ones. Rewatch whatever you need to rewatch.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
Go rewatch Royal Court. OK, go rewatch. I don't know. Pedro Pascal hot ones. I've got a whole laundry list of stuff you guys could be tapped into. Anyway, in France, he's got a jovial ass. So just remember that. But of reindeer, there was no sign, and with good cause.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
77: God’s Brother: Santa Claus
Although they were once common throughout Europe, their habitat receded at the end of the last ice age, to the point that they were mostly confined to northern Scandinavia and the Ural Mountains. Where the fuck are the Ural Mountains? The UTI Mountains? Hey, I've been there. They're in Russia. On before the night! The Ural Mountains, or simply the Urals, are mountains. Oh, these are stunning.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
76: Auditioning For The Live-Action Shark Tale
Everything about you I like. Yeah, I love you. Kissing you in public, making nothing of you. I need you in my life. Yeah, all day, every day I need you. And every time I see you, the feelings get deeper. I miss you. I miss you. I really want to kiss you, but I can't. Y'all get into this. Shit.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
76: Auditioning For The Live-Action Shark Tale
Yeah, that was a conversation we were having off camera before.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
76: Auditioning For The Live-Action Shark Tale
All right, we'll talk to you later. We got Timothee Chalamet on the podcast before we got GTA 6.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
76: Auditioning For The Live-Action Shark Tale
Okay, moving on. Let's go ahead and move on, I fucking guess. Let's talk about 2025 New Year's resolutions. Okay. Here's my 2025 New Year's resolution.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
76: Auditioning For The Live-Action Shark Tale
We have some guests coming out this week on Royal Court that you bitches are going to lose your fucking mind. I've been talking about this forever. You bitches are going to lose your shit.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
76: Auditioning For The Live-Action Shark Tale
What do you mean? I can't even buy baby carrots from the fucking grocery store in a plastic bag because it has E. coli poop on it. What are you talking about? Who's shitting my carrot bag? I just want a baby carrot with my tahini dip. I don't even want to have poop in my mouth. I don't want poop. No, no, I don't want poop in my mouth.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
75: George Orwell & Dragons
They're going to go on a hiatus after this. I don't know whether they're going to make music next to this. He's doing a fucking solo project that I don't like.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
75: George Orwell & Dragons
So when you were working out for Gladiator, what was that like when you were the Gladiator Russell Crowe when you held a sword?
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
75: George Orwell & Dragons
Maybe he can introduce me to Cillian Murphy. I don't know. Maybe we can all hang out together. Maybe we can all watch The Current War together. I don't know. It's like an awesome movie. Anyway. Anyway.
The Broski Report with Brittany Broski
92: Peeing in the River
What river is in Nacogdoches, Texas? The Angelina River? No. No, it wasn't Nagadochis. Where were we? What the hell? What the hell? What the hell-y? What the hell-y, Barry? What the hell-y, Ante?
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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
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It was nine, it was 10, it was 13, it was 15.
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Yes, yes.
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Yeah.
The Dr. Hyman Show
The Unexpected Dolphin Discovery That May Hold the Key to Longevity | Dr. Stephanie Venn-Watson
But you've got that, yeah.
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The Gut-Brain Connection: Why Your Mental Health Starts in the Microbiome
Mm-hmm.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
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Yeah.
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Episode #13 Featuring Registered Dietician Jen Scheinman! THE MITOCHONDRIA and UROLITHIN A EPISODE!! The role of mitochondria in cellular health, In depth analysis of Urolithin A , Gut Health's impact on mitochondria, MITOPURE and more!!
Yeah. Yeah.
The Living Your Legacy Podcast
Justin Day on The AI Tactics That Will Build A Legacy
Number one is... It spans the globe like a super high school internet. Elvis Presley. Today, Apple is going to reinvent the phone. It's not over until I win. The Living Your Legacy podcast for those who live to leave a legacy. That's extraordinary. The impossible. Oh, that is sensational. Open. Chicago was the lead. You said Paul is the fastest man on the planet. You can live your dream.
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Here comes the hot stepper. Murderer. Here I am, Tom Harkin.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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It was wonderful. I remember getting wardrobe and being on for not even a second. But you guys were looking for bald heads, and I think I was one of the top four.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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Well, Bobby Lott is what pays my bills, so I'll keep enjoying the tunes, fellas.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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No, we'd know it. But our listeners might not. So continue.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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These guys were thinking about not doing it. I was like, we should.
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
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Well, I kept saying, I want to mark this day with a maker's mark. And you guys kept saying, what does that mean? I was like, it means a toast, guys.
The Lore Lads
The Great Appalachian Excursion | Podcast Episode 148
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I'm going to take your kneecaps.
The Lore Lads
The Great Appalachian Excursion | Podcast Episode 148
Cheers. Wait, where is it? Oh, there we go. Okay. Hi, Lilith. Thank you for saying hi. That was so sweet. I told your mom I'd say hi to you. So here we go. Which camera are we looking at? I don't know.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Do you know how fast arrows move?
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
This is what I'm dealing with. This is why it's been so hard to write this video.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
You raise me up.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
I want to take my bones.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It's L-E-O-D. Load.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Alright, let's swap back.
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Are you good with us getting through some questions?
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Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
Next week's video, Jason Seagal is a psyop. He doesn't exist. No, you know what I mean. Like, if Steven Seagal... How I met you was there was propaganda.
The Lore Lads
Patagonia This, Si Te Cah That, Bigfoot and Such | Podcast Episode 161
It was justified. It was God, so it was okay.
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Clearing the Air with Seth Rogers & Tony Mathis | Podcast Episode 159
Must be a Tennessee thing. It is a Tennessee thing.
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I think we all do.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
I know one other thing that you brought up in a couple other interviews that you were mentioning was a lot of the caves and the areas behind that space. And I was just curious, do you know to what degree, because I know in previous conversations, you've said that there were a few of them that you didn't feel comfortable going in because you didn't have anybody with you.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Do you know to what extent they've been searched at all?
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Right. So just to clarify really quickly, so they were able to get you the, the still images and the clips, but the TBI has the TBI was able to get the full footage.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, like any question about somebody entering or exiting the home. Yeah, it should be the TBI answered by that.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
There's a level of respect that's necessary in these kinds of situations.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Really quickly to just give a little bit more background on that as well. We had been covering a following up series on the Smiley Face Killers phenomenon. And so the reason why Riley Strain landed on our desk phenomenon.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
The reason why Riley Strain specifically landed on our desk that way was because he had at the time that he went missing very much fit the profile that we had already done several videos on. So that was just another reason why that was the focus.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Yeah, and also, not only did they clear it, but, like, to what level of scrutiny did they clear it? Because, like you just said with JonBenet... Somebody opened a door to the room that she was in and didn't see her. So it took, you know, the fourth time, I think it was... Fifth, technically.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Yeah. But, you know, it was more than three. Yeah. Actually find the individual in the room.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
I did. I can't remember if it was her going out during that search or if it was Chris going out later in the day. One of them did drive out towards Gallatin that day. Yeah, somebody went out towards Gallatin to look because there was a specific tie there that you had mentioned in the video. Yeah, I...
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
He also said it in like three different interviews.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
I will say the way the donations are set up, there are no questions with the donations. It's just donations.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
In total right now, I can check. We seem to be riding right around...
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
I can pull that up, but it's looking like several hundred so far.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
reached out to it it's kind of hard to understand what this is about it looks like you actually responded to it so i will say one of the difficulties with some of the chats here is that a number of them are not directly relevant to the conversation we've been having a lot of them are about external conversations so uh yeah i guess just in terms of people who are watching if you have any directly relevant questions feel free to chat them i'll take a look but what were you gonna say
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
I was going to say that was such a like deviation from the original story.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Yeah, there was like some weird intervening of an argument between people or somebody was getting harassed and he was supposedly being like a good Samaritan.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
It's possible. Well, my first instinct is I don't know exactly how this works in the liver or in the liver plus decomposition, but due to the fact that I'm sure he had an insanely high blood alcohol content, it may have been converted to that.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
hundreds of searchers but it's a it's the area is so thick and there's um just i do think it needs to be gone over again thousands thousands of people search for dennis martin and they found nothing well that's the thing is yeah one thing that we really realized when we went to alaska and when we went to tennessee to cover the things that happened the great smoky mountains
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Is that, you know, it's easy when you're sitting at home and being like, oh, well, it's such a small area and you've got, you know, 20, 50, 100 people looking at it. How could you possibly miss anybody when you actually go to these locations?
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
You know, when there is dense undergrowth in a forest, especially even if it's in a small area, but there's a lot of, you know, altitude change and there's a lot of different terrain elements there. it can be very easy for someone to disappear just in a small area of terrain, even with a lot of people looking because there are just so many obstructions to hide somebody like that. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Well, like you said, I mean, our goal from the beginning has been trying to find Sebastian because it's what everybody is truly aiming for, who at least is really caring about this case.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
So for updates and anything that you would want people to be able to find with you, where are the good places for people to follow you?
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Go to the main middle one for now.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Hang on. I'll switch it. There we go.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Oh, I see him. I see him everywhere. He's all over the place. He's such a good boy. Hi, buddy. There we go.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Oh, 100%. No, I think in terms of the show overall, I think it was a great opportunity to clear the air on a variety of different things because they're – There have been some questions lingering in my head today based on interviews I've seen him do previously about what certain answers to questions really were. And that wasn't him being cagey.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
It was just the nature of the conversations he was having prior. Things weren't necessarily clear. I'm glad and proud that hopefully based on this conversation, that may be the case. And as a result, I feel a lot more confident about where he stands now.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
and also the fact that he genuinely does seem to be in good faith, but just, like you said, has a different point of view and perspective on what exactly is going on here.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Would we have him back on again later on for updates?
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Yeah. I, it was a very refreshing conversation.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
I mean, I think time will tell, and I think the big indicator is, as he reiterated a number of times in the show, and I think we did a good job of doing the same, is really, at the end of the day, it comes down to trying to, and hopefully successfully, finding Sebastian at some point. Yes.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
The reason being is because there seems to be so many different variations of the story out there. And, you know, even from a semi-audience perspective, because I just do the research of the images and put it all together, being able to see all of that information accumulated and then distilled into a coherent timeline of events has been really nice.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Did you get the email I sent you earlier today as well? Which one? Ramsey John did an interview like four months ago that was separate from the Netflix thing. But it was like a long form hour and a half long interview where the interviewer goes through everything in terms of like even like the accusations of Burke and all that stuff. So it's like it'll be interesting to see.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Yeah, I'll have to watch that. Because I think that interview and his responses in there will be interesting to analyze once they have been informed by the work you're doing.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
When do we get the, not the Alex Kuttner, the DA video?
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Oh, that's right. We haven't gotten through the first week yet.
The Lore Lads
Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
Anyway, it's going to be a long series, ladies and gentlemen.
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Finding Sebastian Rogers w/Steve Fischer | Podcast Episode 156
I feel good about it not only in the sense of like it was a good interview and it was a good summary of different elements of the story so far, but in terms of the idea of refocusing and kind of doing a little bit of a restart. I hope for the general audience of this story that we can all kind of take a step in that direction and really refocus on that.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Just J.D. Petty saying, I don't know. It doesn't matter. Austin, probably. Yeah.
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I mean, it sounds like a fun trip.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, I found a great video this morning from Simon.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
That sounds right. I think Warfronts or whatever it is. I just had to type my text.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Seems like a very consumer-like, normal person trying to fly a drone. Yeah.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Unless it was an already understood, like, collective action test. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, the only way that I could imagine they would easily lose them if they fly significantly slower.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah. It's like, I'm not going to tell you what I know. It's need to know. All you need to know is it's not a threat and they're not for it.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I don't think the same mindset that they're trying to justify Ukraine with is going to work with Alaska.
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Something like that.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Mike, if you're watching, you'll know.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I don't know off the top of my head, but I'll send more to him.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
The only thing that I can think of, especially considering what drone warfare has become in the last two years in the Russia-Ukraine conflict, is that if it was them, it's them utilizing this brand new technology that is being implemented extremely fast into militaristic campaigns and tactics. Yeah.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
that they are essentially using that as a substitute for the planes to test out what our responses would be.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
It wouldn't make sense. No, if they were going to waste that R&D money, they'd waste it way closer to home.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Oh, the ones here.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
And they've been getting progressively more angry since 2018. Yeah.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Don't say we. Don't say we. We did not condone that.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Dude was a war criminal. I truly don't know enough about the details of that situation.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Also, I understand that the show ended a little prematurely, but it's weird to let it get that far away from them where they didn't have an out. I wouldn't say the show ended prematurely. It went for nine seasons. In terms of what they were expecting for the story arc to be.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
If you yourself don't behave as though they were your enemies. Dude.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
That or if they're essentially... Because they have... I don't know if they have ICBMs, but they've got missiles.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, that was never officially confirmed, but there was a ship in Europe that was owned by either a Chinese company or something along those lines.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, the downside of having a tyrannical government run everything, including the economy. The upside? Exactly my point. Exactly my point. Anyway, yeah, they were accused of dragging their anchors along the seafloor to destroy communication cables.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
uh i can't i can't remember if they were between european countries or europe and the united states i would assume one of the transatlantic aren't there transatlantic cables there are transatlantic but then there's also trans uh like gulf cables that go from like england to france and gibraltar to morocco yeah um so you know good job china for failing on that one i guess like can't even do that right um
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I think the only upside would be, have you followed anything of what they're doing internally?
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I'm just starting to get back into it, and it's mainly through the tech sector that I've been following some things.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
yep nobody can stay you either die here or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain or you live long enough to see yourself potentially in a sex tape with nick fuentes yeah that was interesting but we won't comment on that here uh but anyway his destiny Anyway, so most of what I'm learning about technology or sorry, politics right now is through technology information.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
One of the things I just covered was it was like a Bloomberg mini documentary about AI. And one of the leading factors about AI is national security. Part of that is because a lot of the development for AI has kind of been shared with China. And I don't mean shared with us giving them the info. It's that there was a lot of collaboration early on and a lot of the technology.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
well the weapons too in a they're cool sense in a the videos of castle bravo are very fun to watch we don't want more nuclear weapon use we want more nuclear energy use correct um guess which country is leading the charge with nuclear right now i thought it was france it was until the last like two to four years is it china now By a massive margin.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
They have done an insane switch-up. They are now in development of 42 reactors.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
And they are doing a massive surge, similar to how a lot of tech companies here are trying to do small-scale nuclear reactors to power AI. Mm-hmm. The theory is essentially that they are developing large-scale reactors to power their AI, and they are cranking them out very quickly.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
But that's the thing is like you would have thought in season seven or eight when they were developing the Barney and Robin underline, they'd think like, hang on a second. This is going to get really hard to not pin ourselves in a corner here. Actually, I don't think it might have been 2030.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
You never know.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
They are cheaper.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I think after the Beijing games, they kind of started to get their acts together with that.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
It was also intentional.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Did you not hear about that?
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
There's nothing France knows how to do better than revolution and revolt.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
That sounds right.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, they were kind of caught in the middle of it.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
It's gotta be weird.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
In a field. What? What? Yeah, I learned how to drive a stick shift in Poland, in a Polish field. When were you in Poland? Remember when I was in London for a semester?
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Thought that one was pretty straightforward. We hadn't started this at that point. That's true. But I would have been in Poland for... You would have been in Poland.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, definitely is.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, they wouldn't. I don't think anybody would ever be successful in a land war in North America if they did not essentially bombard it for a solid year beforehand.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, you could get rid of the coasts pretty easily, but once you try and get past the coasts, you have to remember that there are more guns than people in America, and that's where they're concentrated.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I wouldn't be scared of anybody invading North America.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I think they'd do well in the winter. But, I mean, it's the... The geography of the country.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, especially the civilians. Yeah. It's funny to see how similar Russian and American civilians are.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Well, they didn't see it.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, I've seen a couple documentaries about, like, before and after the revolution, but... Yeah, so, you know, Well, I mean, the same thing happened in China. They had a lot of revolutionaries up until 1989. And then, essentially, they were like, well, we can't ever let that happen again. So anytime somebody tries to do anything, they just... Yeah.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I will say, I think if that is the case, my suspicion about the reaction of the government is we have nothing that we're concerned about them being able to see. So we're not going to react because that gives them actual information that we care about. If they look at some planes, cool. You can already do that with a satellite. Well, also they have the plans for the F-22. Yeah, exactly.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
They just can't build one. Exactly. But the thing is, if we did retaliate, if we did take things out of the sky, if we did show a response time, then that would actually give valuable information over to an adversary. But if you do nothing, then they get nothing.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Why do it now? Same thing that I've heard from a variety of different people is that they're doing it before the changing of the guard.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, well, I mean, so we just saw a video right beforehand that said it might have been NASA. Yeah. Because last year when this happened, which for those who aren't aware, apparently this was a thing that happened last year. Not at a dissimilar time of year. Yeah, not at a dissimilar time of year.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
NASA then like a couple months later put out a press release saying, oh yeah, we were flying a bunch of drones in Jersey in the corridor between Joint Base, what is it? Was it Jersey? Yeah.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
well yeah it was over it was langley well yeah it was between there was a corridor that nasa was flying drones in between the joint base just outside of trenton it's like dicks something or whatever and then langley and it was that whole corridor there so jersey you know dc that kind of area why is why is nasa not telling the pentagon oh i'm sorry did you think our government worked efficiently no but you
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
That would be most possible with NASA, considering the type of people in it. But remember how people behave when a state official is running an investigation and then the FBI says we actually have jurisdiction?
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
They may have some rule about waiting until the engagement or the operation's over.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
We will also refrain from commenting on current, former, and future presidential candidates and presidents.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
He's earned it at the very least.
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No, I don't even want to.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
brings it around and they did not need to wait that long well and here's the thing is that even with all of the constraints they had because they had to film that during covid and they were supposed to have way more cameos than they did but they couldn't get everybody there in time even with everything going wrong, it ended marvelously.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
the most I feel like would be surreal would be J.D. Vance. Yeah. Purely because it would be the most serious, and that would make it seem so unserious.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah. Is he punk rock? Is he hiding punk rock? Why does he always look like he's got eyeliner on?
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I could see him saying something like that. Yeah, I could see it.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
And then everybody would be like, we saw them. It'd just be... You remember the hurricane map thing? Yeah. It'd be that all over again.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
And also, it's all a meme.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah. Wouldn't it be great if we had actual people in position that would do things like that and then actually be like, ah.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah. Wouldn't that be nice for them to at least tell us when we get it right.
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I think so. I, I,
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
For all we know, they were in the cities, but you just couldn't see them because of the light pollution. That's possible.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Oh, that's happened to me.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
You ever seen some of the drones they use for filming now?
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
They would have told us by now. What do you remember the one suggestion in Simon's video?
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, because season six ended on a high note. Season seven started to stumble a little bit. And then season eight, obviously, was season eight. And it's just a shame that, like, I understand the showrunners wanting to switch to a different project, but it's a shame they couldn't have other people step in to essentially carry the torch.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
That's the thing, though, is drone production has ramped up so insanely that I wouldn't be shocked. There was a thing, I just watched a thing of, it's not Sam Altman, it's the other billionaire, the guy.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
No, no, no, no, no, no. The guy with the goatee, I can't remember what company he started. I think it was Oculus. Yeah. The guy who started Oculus got bought by Facebook. He's now a military contractor, and they are heavily focusing on drone warfare. Oh, I believe that. And also AI. But they were covering kind of essentially their development phase right now and what they're doing.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
And yeah, the... progress of drones both in size scope capability oh yeah is absolutely on that exponential portion of that curve yeah i don't like it no it's not great i missed 20 years ago 20 dude i i miss when the fastest thing in the sky was 400 miles an hour that's fair oh you weren't alive for that i know okay that's the problem i hope bad things happen to sam altman
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I can't even remember what he did. I can't keep up with anybody. Oh. Well, if he didn't... Chat GPT, Sora, all of it. If he didn't do it, other people would, considering how many there are now. If Lennon didn't do it, somebody else would.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
How do you feel about Oppenheimer?
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
But I think Sam was probably in a very similar position to Oppenheimer, and obviously people have different opinions about that, but at the end of the day, it was a similar race.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I agree. I just think it was inevitable. Considering we've been talking about AI since the 1920s.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I think AI is hitting its limits, though. I'm worried it's not. But a lot of the companies are kind of hitting the point. Did you read the thing about ChatGPT? What thing?
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
But Mattis, a HAL 9000 unit has never faltered once.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Oh, there's already scam calls where people are mimicking other people's voices to get them to send them money. Yeah.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Oh, I think it'll be even more simple. I think it'll be the innate laziness of the human being doing AI, like using AI to do work, whether it's spreadsheets, whether it's memos, whether it's resumes, things like that.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
And it'll get to the point where everybody's AI-ing each other's work, where it's like, oh, somebody, like, chat GPT, generate me a spreadsheet based on this data, this data, whatever. The problem is, is that... things will get rushed. People will run out of time. They're going to do it at the last minute. They're not going to overlook it.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
There's going to be wrong data in there because chat GPT puts in wrong data on occasion by accident, as far as we're aware. And then that's going to go further down the line. Someone's not going to catch it. Just like what happened in Chernobyl. It was a series of events of people doing the wrong thing.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
put on a pedestal of none of them knowing this extremely dangerous like catastrophic one element that prevented any of that from being safe it's going to be the same thing and it's going to cause another east palestine yep or something even greater than that purely because people just didn't check the work because we're humans and we're lazy yeah
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Other than maybe one guy.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, they're already figuring that out in Ukraine.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
So... Well, technically. Intranet.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
My best guess is I think they're... I have two top guesses. The second one is that it's China and they're just doing some reconnaissance and our government's like, they're not going to learn anything, so we don't care. I think that's... Yeah, I think that's possible. I think number one top pick for me is it's one of the internal divisions of the United States military or government.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
They're doing some test, whether it be testing their own weaknesses or they're testing the drones out for their own capabilities. And they're just not telling people because...
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
they're in the middle of an operation they don't want people screwing with it one way or another you know because some people might be like i don't want i don't want government drones over my house even if they're my own um yeah my guess best guess is that they are ours we're doing something we'll find out about it in six months what do you think about the radiation angle Do you want to go over?
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, I can go over really quick. Yeah, go over that story.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Sturdy specifically because the goal is the radioactive damage. It's not high explosive. There will be an explosion. Yeah, there would be an explosion, but the goal is irradiating the land around it, not so much causing mass destruction based off of the shockwave of the actual explosive force of the bomb itself.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, the chaos would make it that much harder to find. I think it's possible. It would be truly the plot of an 80s thriller if that was actually the case. And I think if we're in a position where there is a dirty bomb on American soil, the biggest question I have is, whose is it?
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
That's the thing. It's either a non-state actor or a small-state actor.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Al-Qaeda? They're still around. Considering their situation after we pulled out of Afghanistan, actually wouldn't be shocked. At ISIS? Either of the options. Not the Taliban. Taliban aren't that dumb. No. I mean, considering we almost nearly or fully wiped out ISIS, I mean, you can only that's a hydra. You can get rid of every head, but they're going to grow back.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
No, she just girl bossed a little too close to the sun.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
What? Kat just typed in the chat, a small foreign faction? Stop that.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
So you said that the first thing that entered my mind was what's Aleppo? Because that is how I feel about Boko Haram. I have no idea what that is.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
You learn something new every day.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Somebody should go talk to them.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, more messy than...
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Well, it's good to know that everybody's being vigilant and getting angry about the fact that the government's not doing anything. So if the government is testing whether or not they can pull something on us or not, you can't.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Oh, you mean the way you should always be? Yeah.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
What's the most popular phrase in the black community about the government?
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
As much as I love the show, when I was watching it, because I started watching it when it was airing. So like back when season one was the first season, my parents and I watched it. And I watched up through the first half of season five. That is the moment I realized this is not Game of Thrones in the West. This is a soap opera.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
You're worried about me. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I have that out of pocket.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, but anyway, I think we have super chats. We do indeed. We have a number of them. So we'll run through the top. We'll do the usual of trying to focus on the relevant ones.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah. Like... Also, yes, Duo Black Rose. We will most likely be at the Oaks Convention Center this weekend.
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So if anybody's in the area and wants to come say hi, welcome aboard.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
dead jay for nine and nine dollars and nine pounds or nine pounds and 99 pence let that register for a second yeah i hate you i i was trying to be accurate uh he said evening from liverpool would you ever consider a video on maddie mccann uh being a history fan are you aware of the last surrender the civil of the civil happened in liverpool when the css shenandoah surrendered not familiar with the second thing what
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Come on over and take a read.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Great question. Did it run away? I don't know. I guess we'll have more weird ships to talk about. Hint, hint, wink, wink this week.
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What else we got? The Mangled Wither for $20 says, a couple weeks back, I was listening to one of these podcasts at work, and with you talking about death, it got me thinking about my grandpa. I miss him. He was gentle, and I'm not really religious, but I hope he's watching me.
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Yeah. I'm glad that we were able to hopefully bring you some positive memories about that, so thank you for sharing. Gaius Rex for $4.99 is saying, now that Midnight Squadron has been reactivated, are we going to see more Helldiver streams from Mattis?
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Bad. I can't wait to the culmination video where you point out basically everywhere that anybody said anything that was either a blatant lie or misdirection.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Can only imagine how entertaining those get. Oh, it's a good time. Angry chiropractor with a fantastic name is asking for $10. Given that the drones were FAA compliant and didn't fly on a holiday Thanksgiving, points to both that they, A, are being flown by federal employees, and B, not engaged a time-sensitive task, nuke sniffing, such and such.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, I don't know. It doesn't make a lot of sense.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
The Navy could be, uh, Eleanor to howler, Eleanor to howler werewolf queen. Uh, sometimes it's just really hard to get that one out. I'm sorry. Uh, for 49 saying aside from drugs, which I agree makes sense. Do you have any other ideas about what the, you know, how to get the bells Canyon question could be?
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Cool, great. No, wait, did they at least say, like, but we're allowed to run our cattle through it?
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, they're not usually the type to be stoners, though.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
No, I know, but I'm using stoners as an umbrella term for hallucinogens and all that. True.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
That's fair. This is fair. The Sky King 5 for Canadian $6.99, which great username, by the way. All these people seeing stars and thinking they're drones are taking this too serious. Yep. Specifically S-I-R-U-S. Yep. S-I-R-I-U-S. That was a good one. That was a good one.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
How many acres is that?
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, it was a good one.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Uh, what do you think about Amazon delivery drones from Caleb Rogers? Good lord, I can't talk tonight.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I think the optimal scenario for it would be rapid shipping. Yeah. So essentially it's like if you need this in an hour.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked, though, because most commercial and private aircraft fly above 1,000 feet. So if you had a drone zone of like 500 to maybe like 1,500 feet... I think you would see municipalities banning it. Yeah, probably, because they don't want to keep crashing and stuff.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Unfortunately, you can be held legally liable for that.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
If it's filming, it would only work if one party consent state, it would only work if, well, it wouldn't work at all. If it was a one party consent state, Pennsylvania is one party consent state. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Sorry, but it would only work if they were recording.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Fair. I'm just saying you'd have a really hard time, especially if you were outside your house and it wasn't actively looking inside your house. Either way. Yeah. Because it has been a thing that's come up, especially within aerial photography. And it's like outside is technically considered public, even if you are on your private property.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
If you are visible from outside of your house or outside of your property, then it's not considered private to my understanding. That's why so much drone footage is allowed to be used frequently. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Fair, different story.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I just want you to be careful. I don't want you getting into more lawsuits than you need.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
It's also Florida. Uh, also Bert, sorry, I missed yours. Um, but it was also about the Amazon. Um, Uh, there was one that I just saw. Oh yes. A fetus for $2 says, tell my wife, Jackie, hi, please. She got shot.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
First of all, are you okay?
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah. Hi, Jackie. Hi, Jackie live. Hope you're good.
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Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Dan Lopez for $5 says, the drones are MQ-8C fire scouts. The USN is probably conducting readiness and training missions. Sorry the answer is so anticlimactic. To me, that's climactic. I'm not sure that's true.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
In addition to that, Ella said for $10 saying, I'm pretty sure it's the EPA hunting a radiation leak. That's what I was thinking. Also, my brother changed his Steam name to Diddy. Is it appropriate for me to gift him a Diddy CD and Babylil for Christmas? Why would he do that? Yes, that's the only thing you should do.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Oh, that's full-on militaristic.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah. There's definitely some of them that are.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
What happened to the brand? What happened to the brand meaning everything?
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Also, Gom, don't worry. We are getting our way to the calendar and... I'm dropping weight. What package are you referring to?
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Wasn't where we got one. Apparently it's been mailed.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Well, we'll see when it gets here.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
If you meet us in Phoenixville, we might give you a tour, because we've done that with a few people. We've done that with a few people. If you're cool, it's fun. Don't try and do anything weird.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Anyway. We've been recognized multiple times by people here, and they've been really cool. And we've been like, hey, you want to check out the studio? Yeah. So we're not saying, like, don't say hi to us. Just don't.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
It would be. It really would be. Ryder, for $7.26, says, Hi, I haven't had the best year, but your videos always cheer me up. Probably going to binge old videos while in ankle surgery recovery. Oh, boy.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I feel like, though, generally, if we got invited to somebody's wedding, we're at the level where it's like they'd be excited and everybody else would be like, who are these people? Yeah, that's true. Like, are you guys part of the family?
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
We would basically be Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I think that's Taylor Sheridan. No. Yeah. No, he wrote himself into the show as like... He did? Yeah. That's Taylor Sheridan.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
It did. Hobosam21 is saying, Hey, the Unsub guys are talking about renting a theater to watch the Lord of the Rings movies since Brandon has never seen them. Eli, can I come? Eli, can I come, please? I mean, hey, I'm in the same boat as Brandon. I just watched all the extended cuts for the second time, but the first time was with him 10 hours straight, and I remembered nothing. How many is it?
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
It's more like 12 and a half. Okay, well, we did that all in one day in high school, and I remembered none of it.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Here's what I don't understand. First Harry Potter might benefit from some updated graphics.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
All of the others? Technology has not changed. They all look exactly... Money.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Hey, I forgot. Silly me. I forgot. Money. Yep.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
The Interstellar re-release. I wanted us to go see it. It got sold out in the first week. Yeah. There are theaters demanding more showings because so many people want to go re-see it. It's basically remaking its box office numbers. And that came out in 2014, only 10 years ago.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
There's a reason I chose not to watch the second half of season five, and it's almost primarily because I'm really enjoying listening to how everyone else is describing it to me.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Well, it's also because there are so many movies and there's so many good movies.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I think more should be made. I want to make them. But I think like for something along the lines of Harry Potter, you're going to benefit more from re-releasing it.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, until the very end.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I know, he's just a little boy. He is just a little boy.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Gomb is saying that apparently over the last half century, China has less than 100 tornadoes per year, whereas the glorious US of A deals with over 1,000 per year.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, let's be fair.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Get got, China. Let's be fair. The US, like, tornado alley... We're also unique in that way.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
...is the exception in the world.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Like, it's not just like, oh, we're the exception in this hemisphere. There is no one else, nowhere else on this planet that you get tornadoes like we do in central the United States of America.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Kellen said, boys, I'm just a discord message away to answer any questions about the military, the government and the interactions of them.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
He also said the GBU dash.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yep. He also said that the GBU-57, the Three Gorges Dam, don't get me started on how bad Russia would get the smoke.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
GBU-57? I don't know.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
yeah that's fair uh abby holtz for five dollars says have you ever thought about looking into the disappearance of chance engelberg or engelbert somebody or something seems off with his wife and in-laws behavior oh i have not what was the name uh chance engelbert you want to put that on the sheet yes yeah part of the problem is that like i i have a lot of missing persons cases to cover but when i do too many missing persons cases people get tired of it and i have to switch it up yeah
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, it's kind of nuts, honestly. All right. Do that in a minute. Ryan Wickup for $7.17. Love the specificity. He says, I saw a triangle string of lights moving in sync during basic training, and I was tweaking until they told us what it was. I don't really know what it was, though. It's a triangular string of lights? Yes.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
No, I'm just surprised that eat was the first one. I would have imagined kill, not eat.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Every depiction of an alien ever suggests that they don't have a lot of meat on them.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
What you're telling me is that when cows get abducted, they're just the aliens being taken back into the ship. Yes. Cows are aliens.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
You heard it here first. You ever seen a wild cow? Honestly, no. They're living it up good. Just saying. Do you know what that means? Not remotely. Okay, good. I thought I was dumb. Amanda might. I'm pretty sure Swan Lake is a ballet.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, Duo Black Rose is suggesting it wouldn't be shocking, essentially, if the drones are all from Skunk Works. What's Skunk Works again? It's like the Air Force's top secret development.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
oh my god uh also he said uh drones seem like a kind of stupid investment and yeah investment in my opinion uh it seems all it would take is a dusting off of the old flak cannons uh might you know kind of get rid of them pretty quick what just essentially saying drones seem dumb when you just need flak cannons yeah or nets yeah
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Just be careful.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Okay, yeah, that was my biggest concern.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Elena the Howler Werewolf Queen for $4.99 is saying, would you be willing to collab with YouTuber Lost Souls TC in chat? She's a no-nonsense true crime YouTuber.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I'd be curious to see how much studio interference there was, because a lot of the writing changes that happened were in relation to what the audience was saying about the characters. And it was fan service. So I wouldn't in Yellowstone. Yeah. Yeah. Like a lot of Beth becoming Beth was people reacting to her in the first two seasons, loving her. And then that just getting dialed up to 11.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah. Jeff D says, funny story, the Air Force named their newish nuke CNC program after Skynet. Foreshadowing. Unrelated, would you consider a collab with Roanoke Tales? Boy, do we have a story for you.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Oh, yeah. Yeah. William Martin gave us $50 to get ourselves dinner. You have no idea that Kat and I did a little workout beforehand, thought we'd be able to have enough time to do a little lift, then come back to the apartment, cook up some chicken. The chicken was still frozen, so we had to go get burritos. So you did, in fact, pay for his dinner tonight. I did, in fact, pay for my dinner.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Plague the AI viruses with Protected by Captcha.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
A lawyer used... This is from GretchenCoff499 saying, a lawyer used ChatGPT to write a rebuttal motion and the AI made up a fake case law. Don't trust AI, but will be kind to it for when Skynet launches. Yeah, I've been doing a very similar thing with any time I've ever used AI. Very polite. Just in case.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
When it kills you and spares me... I'll remember you fondly.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
You don't have a lot of nuance with how to handle tyranny, do you?
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah. Take some nuanced ways to get that blood.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Okay, there we go. That's it. All right. It is nine o'clock officially. And our social media guru who has been helping us out. Oh, so wonderfully to get things on social platforms has been yelling at us.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah. Thank you to everybody who sent these in.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Oh, hang on, hang on. A couple $20 just came in recently. Would you ever consider looking into the Sam Marilyn Shepard story? Yes, but we have to look into it. Yes. And CigarChoppingPenguin for $20 says, I held a pro-drone pilot license. Number one, drone pilots are required to keep visual contact with it, limiting delivery area. And two, only the FAA can create laws and policies around airspace.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
States and lower do not have the power. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, they're really particular about airspaces.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
kind of overdue. That's my question is considering he is so good at movies and the other shows. I wonder if Paramount was like, Hey, everybody likes this.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
There's one main thing that's happening right now that is... I can't remember the name of it. It's Latin, but it's essentially the reason you can't shoot down drones right now is... What is it? The... no what are you thinking oh no sorry i'm thinking of uh hang on oh my god i hate this keyboard you're fine I can't find the thing. Kat, if you're here, we literally just saw it.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
There's this statute in it's either the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, essentially, that the U.S. government doesn't have the authority to just destroy the property of civilians. And that would think you're thinking about the Fourth Amendment.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
No, it's something else. It's a Latin phrase that's somewhere in... It may be part of an amendment, but it's specifically in relation to destruction of civilian property via the government. And one of the reasons why... One theory of why the drones aren't being shot down... I think you might be thinking of the Posse Comitatus Act.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
What was the name of the thing, though?
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
C-O-M-I-T-A-T-U-S, yep.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, we should do.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Oh, you know what we should do? What? We should do a non-exclusive Patreon live stream where we answer all of the hectic super chats that people send. That could be a good one.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Otherwise, I think that's about it.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I got to take out trash before I get yelled at.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, that's what makes me wonder about studio interference. Like... But in terms of people butchering current events... But what he said to Costner.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
We have friends who have taken video of some of the drones. I will say most of the ones that I've seen that have been sent to me have been planes. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
The ironic bit about this is that we're learning just how many people don't frequently look in the sky. Yeah. Also, the amount of people who look up into the sky and saw orbs did not realize that that was the star Sirius.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I get it. It was very strange the first time I saw Sirius. Kat and I were watching a movie in my bedroom last year, around this time of year. Is that the closest one? Yes. That's the thing. Out of the corner of my eye, through my blinds, I saw this really colorful twinkling. And I was like... I said to Kat, I was like, is that...
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
I was really worried you were going to say Sopranos for a second. I've never seen Sopranos. Nope, never seen it. I recommend, now that you're done Yellowstone, going back and watching it. I may. It's worth it.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this, but like also something else with a different drone bit. But no, so we were laying there and I was like, this is weird. This is a weird thing. It's not moving. I know what FAA regulation lights look like. That's not it. I'm seeing magenta and cyan and yellow in there. Those are not normal colors at all for anything moving. aviation wise.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
And I was like, and it's not moving. It's like slowly going across the sky. I was like, is it, is it a star? So I pulled out my, my app.
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
Um, cause I have a, the sky view app and it was like, Oh yeah, it's serious. So I went on Reddit. I was like, hey, why is this star doing this? Like, is something weird going on with it? And everybody in the, I think it was the astronomy subreddit, they were all just like, oh, yeah, first time seeing Sirius, huh?
The Lore Lads
Yellowstone Crashed (Spoilers) and Drones Attack | Podcast Episode 152
of like lights in the sky is that is this a real ufo and then it turned out it was starlink have you ever seen the iss go by no yeah so same kind of thing up in it's so fast it goes by so fast we were so i knew it was coming we were up at the rex's family's land on the lake at like midnight and yeah i mean you see it go by and it's gone in like less than a minute yeah i mean it's moving what like 19 000 miles per hour or something like that yeah
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Before the year was out, Hannah had conceived and given birth to a son. She named him Samuel. I think it's a good name. Explaining, I asked God for him, and he gave him to me. I asked, he gave him. This is what happened. Nope. When Elkanah next took his family on their annual trip to Shiloh, great people in Shiloh, great place, great things, to worship God, offering sacrifices and keeping his vow.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
It's important to keep your vows, folks. Hannah didn't go. She told her husband, after the child is weaned, I'll bring him myself. She was a strong woman. We like strong women, folks. And present him before God. And that's where he'll stay for good. Oh, my God. Why does it work so well? It's insane. It's insane.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
He's not in the beginning, he's not in the end. He's somewhere in between. And I said I am the Alpha and the Omega.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
He was whining under the plant. I told him, why do you pity it? It's a plant. He said, well, frankly, I like the plant more than the people.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
I said, Jonah, you tried. You got out of the whale, though, didn't you? Even the whale didn't like you. You're gross. Gross. They called him Jonah the whale boy.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
But we're not taking him back. You can go anywhere, not here. Oh, God. Oh, yeah.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
I did not look at Bathsheba on that roof.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
That's fair, yeah. God said light. And it was day. It was beautiful.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
oh you've not watched oh you've not watched tiktok on revelation three seven oh god and write this to philadelphia to the angel of the church to be you know we all know philadelphia folks bad things happen in that town the holy the true david's key in his hand opening doors no one can lock locking doors so no one can open speaks philadelphia will be spared that's it
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
None of you have been pissed off at me yet. I haven't gotten office. I may be orange, but I still have hope.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
oh, we should just do a Moon's Haunted thing. Moon's Haunted? Yeah.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
That is so unsettling. That is... Yeah. Not sure how to respond to that. Blissfully warm eyes.
The Prosecutors
283. Christmas Bloopers (AGAIN!)
Yeah. You know what? I'm not up to that kind of strategic thinking.
The Prosecutors
283. Christmas Bloopers (AGAIN!)
It is. It really is. I'm so glad to be here. Thank you for having me, guys.
The Prosecutors
283. Christmas Bloopers (AGAIN!)
It really was fun. You know, I was hoping to hear your prosecutor stories.
The Prosecutors
283. Christmas Bloopers (AGAIN!)
Mine is really not letting me upload, just by the way. What is it saying to you? Okay, hold on. I'm trying a different way. Now it seems to be doing it, but it's taking really long.
The Prosecutors
298. WM3 - A Little Less Conversation
yes he had a dream right i'm just bawling and i'm like why am i so emotional and it turns out that one of the side effects of quinine is intense emotions so i never got the dreams i never had the malaria only emotional the only thing i got was the emotion i just cried at the drop of a hat
The Prosecutors
298. WM3 - A Little Less Conversation
Wait. Wait. Okay. I know we need to get started, but hold on a second. Hold on now. Hold on. I don't even know if I knew that roosters had testicles. I mean, I guess I had to know that. Is that a real thing? Are you making that up? You're making that up.
The Ryan Hanley Show
These Negotiation Hacks Will Get You What You Want, Every Time
in a crude laboratory in the basement of his home.
The Ryan Hanley Show
These Negotiation Hacks Will Get You What You Want, Every Time
In a crude laboratory in the basement of his home.
The Science of Flipping
How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
I don't know any state... that I'm in that would require that for direct replacement.
The Science of Flipping
How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
I was just going to say, so you adjust for the price, right? So you create an open layout. You create the modern look that people want. You might get your $800. But if you're not going to, you're going to leave the wall up. You just replace what's already there. Make it new. Go white cabinets or whatever. You might sell for $749 instead of $799.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
It's not your area, right? Yeah, there's not a lot of inventory in any market, right? And for you to be able to provide a like-new property, maybe it doesn't have all the bells and whistles, but it's like-new, it's renovated, they have the updates they want. I really believe, I'm literally thinking about we just bought a home in Georgia, right?
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
That I'm like, man, do we change kind of our game plan? game plan on that uh you're making me think as i'm sitting here this is this is fun um okay so first is the planning phase like make sure you have an actual plan what would be the next thing someone can take away from this episode of like if i'm trying to speed up and create more efficiencies
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
So why isn't that reality? As someone that basically I adjust for somewhere between four to six months.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Well, so one of the things I believe, and tell me, you know, you're a coach in Jersey and I coach across the nation, but I think part of the reason why that happens is raising the capital to go buy the materials and pre-order and do down payments and things of that nature.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
For my underwriting, hard money, so I want to make sure my economics are all right. Why? That's the reality, right? It's not, obviously, is what you're telling me, but why?
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Yeah. It's mostly... through the, the work and labor component plus that servicing. Right. So again, if you have a $50,000 rehab, you're probably going into it with 15 grand of late materials.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
And so, uh, but I think that's a mindset shift that I think people need to understand, hear you again, rewind. What we're just talking about is I believe most people don't do what you're doing because the outlay of money out of the gate, right. It's going to take me five weeks to get the product and, I need to spend it now. I don't see anything for five weeks. But it's the same thing.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
When you buy the home, you're going to have to wait five weeks. So now you're spending more money by closing on the home. You're still waiting five weeks. It's just inefficient.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
I account for a 5%. like the contractor didn't see the thing.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Or the thing broke or whatever.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
That's right.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
So what would be one third? So logistics, I really love that. I really love having, whether it's a U-Haul or you have a trailer or whatever parked in front of the home with the materials in it. A question before I get to the third thing that maybe they could have a takeaway, but maybe this might be one.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Do you house, because you rehab in one specific city, do you house like five properties worth of flooring and everything is cookie cutter, everything, you're an open door version, everything's the same?
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
You're not necessarily trying to skimp, per se. What you are trying to do is create efficiencies. I mean, this isn't a TV show or a strategy of like, here's how you can skimp and still profit. This is like, here's how you become efficient and still profit and profit more, most likely. Because think about your holding costs. You go and flip in a seven days turn, right?
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Let's just say it took you seven days to put it on the market. It takes you 45 days, 60 days to close the end buyer if you find a good property, right? You just cut out three to six months of what I would underwrite towards of holding costs. And market risk. And market risk and volatility and whatever, interest rates and all this other stuff. It is so much smarter.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
So I think the third takeaway, which I really liked, What you were just mentioning really comes down to being able to understand the value of the materials and to be able to pre-plan around the materials. Yeah. I like that. Right? Is to just understand the market, know what county does what type of remodel, what are the color schemes that are popular, what's moving.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Understanding the market creates efficiency to know I can go after this type of material.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
We can move faster. Let's go.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
For debt, hard money cost. I mean, I think people don't estimate... how much, I mean, they understand the number and what the monthly number is, but like how much they would be savings, saving.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
I think there's a takeaway. So my model, we just do separate things and I'm not saying one's right or one's wrong. I try to stick under $300,000. The reason being is I like the idea and the concept that if something does go wrong and there is a volunteer, I can rent it.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
There's no doubt.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
No, because you and I and the people that can afford it can afford it. And we say, okay, so the interest rates at 6.75 is not ideal, but not the worst.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Right. And I was going to say, I put more down.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
And what's your skill set, right? You and I are, I'm 18 years into this and I think you're about the same, right? We started the same trajectory. I think we met in San Diego in 2007. It's been a long time we've known each other. But most people listening to this are not us. And so that's where the people need to decide what do you want your business to look like, right? Start with the end in mind.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Do you want to become a John or Justin or vice versa? Well, for them, they're going to have to learn how to raise money. You do 100% personal.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
It's really ideal because if you're at volume on any scale, those monthly payments, I did the same thing and forget what year it was, 2012, maybe I'd like 96 flips that I bought and completed in a The chokehold's cash. I mean, you literally go like, I'm not paying myself. I'm paying debt service the whole time. You have to stop flipping in order to get your money. That's basically it.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
And that's the shittiest part is you basically have to stop buying so you can finally actually have the profit to be able to pay yourself.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
And we know, and then the other part of this is you got to stop marketing, stop buying. And we know then the cycle of that trajectory, what happens is That means the next quarter, once you finally it's a tough quarter, too.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Because you didn't buy anything for a quarter because you had to slow down. And so there's that. I love that where you go, you know, private financing, no debt servicing. It accrues payoff over potential equity share if if maybe, maybe not. But like it's a beautiful model. Right. And I would tell people to your point. Figure out what you want your model to look like. There's no wrong.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
You just need to adjust for what your model you want to look like. Now, you're specific to Jersey. I'm asking everyone right now because it's obvious, the obvious. Trump's here.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Interest rates. Go Trump. Go Trump. We already see, and I see Jason's here, so he's an economist by trade, and so he's all over. But I say that because... Where do you see, like Northeast, I don't play much in the Northeast. Price being one of them, winters being another.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
So I just, you know, if I found something in Jersey, at least I could call you and have a relationship that I'd feel comfortable, but in a general sense. Now, where do you see Jersey, a state like Jersey, everything's very expensive. Miami's very expensive. You live in some of the most expensive areas you can. Where do you see the Jersey market going for yourself?
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Very expensive. It's crazy. Yeah.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Yeah, no, I think there's a lot of validity. I mean, I know there is, right? As someone that runs a company that fix and flips in nine States, my buy and hold in nine States, I coached throughout the United States. I know the pros and cons to my side. Right. And I think the cons lean into why you do what you do, right?
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
You, you basically, you know, the numbers, you know, the neighborhoods, you know, the people, you know, you have so many more controllables, right? When you stick to one state, um,
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
That the upside for me is because of how even my coaching program is, is national. So I have, I'm one call away from anywhere in any city, any state. Right. It's different.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
There you go. That's right.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
I was just going to say, it sounds like you've done that before.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
I wouldn't ever suggest any of my students, yours, anyone to fix and flip in a market that they don't personally either live in or have very strong ties to because everything you just said. Like even when I coach nationally, I say, great, if you're at a market wholesaler, right? If you have very strong ties and or live in there and you're looking at flipping, then I will give some justification.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Right. But even then, you just run too much risk for all the things that we're aware of, right? And number one on that risk list is contractors, in my opinion. Bad contractors will bankrupt you very, very fast.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
That's exactly right. That is the number one risk I see when remodeling. And 18 years in, I'm still dealing with bad contractors. It's not totally avoidable, right? Yeah. But in your case, because you know the people, right? Yeah.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
cement homes and blanking on the word with you, the machines are really building like the 3d printing.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Yeah, absolutely. But you're still like, I mean, think about four year, five year. Was this even a concept that you and I would think about, right? Like, Holy hell.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
It's interesting. I watched, I don't know if it was on CNBC, but I watched something about this. I just said, man, between the framing, the need, no need for framers anymore. Right. Roofing. Right. You go, they're really building the external. And there's two trays, at least I'm aware of, that all of a sudden just got essentially destroyed. Disrupted. Right. You got disrupted, right?
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
You need them.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Which is for entrepreneurs, which is another show that we like. That's where I want to lean into in my next decade. Yeah. I want to lean into home services.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Right. Whether it's, again, I think in my world, I don't do a lot in the Northeast in their older homes in my own issue. But like the minimum, have your general contractor who's going to run the project already have walked it, understand what's about to happen. So the day you fund, they can start moving.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Thank you for coming. TV Star, 24-hour flip. You can see it on A&E, Hulu, YouTube.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Just Google it. And if you're in Jersey, make sure you reach out to them. I tag them all over my social media. John Steingraber is here. Thank you for showing up, dude. Appreciate you.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
All right, if this helped you guys, even with the three points of efficiencies, make sure you share it with some people you know that need to watch this. I'll see you guys on the next episode. Peace.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
What is up, The Science of Flipping family? I am back with an impressive guest. I've actually known this gentleman for well over a decade. He and I kind of grew in the trenches together. He on the East Coast, me on the West Coast. But this man is a TV star. He is the star of 24-Hour Flip and is an impressive realtor, owns a brokerage, and flips properties in 24 hours. John Steingraber is here.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Yeah, and then you just, so I would assume if a painter brought 10 guys, he's going to be more expensive. He's got to pay all 10 guys now.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
That's right. Okay.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
I'm even thinking about a property that we're in the middle of rehab flip in San Antonio, which has been frustrating me because it's taking too long. And I'm thinking about why it's taking too long as you are talking. And I'm like, Oh my God, he's hitting it on the head.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
What the general contractor did is he just started going wide and kind of starting everything, but nothing's really like when you even walk in.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Like he's kind of just getting everything going and, And you're like, God, that's a 45 day burn, which cost me, I think on that property, we're at $2,200 for that a month. So times another half. So we're just shy of four grand because he kind of got everything started and his point is, okay, now we're ready to go. And I'm like, brother, I don't know if that was efficient.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
No, so $50,000 is a $150,000 home in San Antonio. We're not, this is not.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
you need to figure out what is going to be the best way to get the most amount of profit out of this home. Some homes you can make an art. You got to go for it. If you want to get the most profit, then you got to go all the way. Most homes, like 85% of the homes, that is not the case, right? You might have 15% of that market share that you say, Oh, I got to go to the ball to the wall on this one.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Yeah. 85% of the time, that is not the case.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
What is up, dude?
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Oh, of course. Because they're in and out and they get paid. Well, and a lot of times they blame each other, right? Like, oh, I got to wait for the electrician before I can go for the roughs and whatever else, right? So I want to kind of maybe highlight, like, you don't use general contractors, okay? You do profit share. How does that work?
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
By the way, so if you're in Jersey, maybe even New York or only Jersey.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Jersey. If you're in Jersey watching or listening to this, I want you to reach out to John. Where can they go to learn more, to connect with you?
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
I don't know about all that, dude. You're on Netflix and Hulu. I mean, you're all A&E. You're all over the place, right?
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Flip with John, J-O-N. Flipwithjohn, J-O-N.com. If you're in Jersey, he can help you. He can get you there, whether you do 24-hour flips or at least become more efficient. So make sure you go there. Make sure you follow him.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
And is that a percentage of the profit essentially in your own?
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
And so I go flat fee typically based, and it's a 10% typically. 10% of profit?
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Okay. So, well, no, 10% of rehab budget, meaning so if I do a $50,000 flip, I'm going to give you five grand to go run that project. Now you need to find the subs, hire the subs, get the lien waivers. I mean, you're running A to Z project. Right. But my model is a lot more on scale than I think yours is, right? Like we want to try to acquire one to two properties a week, right?
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Man, I'm excited because I have flipped a lot of properties in my career. I have no idea how the hell you were able to do it in 24 hours. Now, let me just ask a quick thing. Are we talking about you buy it, you paint it, you list it?
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
And so we're running at a volume of, We're also not localized to one city. I'm not saying you're right or I'm right or you're wrong. I'm just saying my model is slightly different. And so let's talk about maybe what are three ways as a listener listening to us right now, like what would be the three things that you can say to create efficiencies? We've mentioned some of them, right?
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Making sure- Pre-planning. Right, pre-planning. So what does that even look like in terms of pre-planning? Like what needs to be pre-planned? Is it literally on paperwork? Are you, what does that look like?
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Going around the whole time.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
All day running back and forth. Oh, I need this. I need this.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
24 hour flip guys. This is so cool. I've done a lot of flips, man. So I would tell you, go watch it on Hulu, YouTube, every place you possibly can. A&E is the TV station.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Yeah. Yeah.
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How This Investor Flips Houses in Just 24 Hours | Jon Steingraber
Well, I don't want them to make that much money, so I'm going to give them a low offer.
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Ich wundere mich, was wir eigentlich finden werden. Ich wundere mich wirklich. Ich denke, wir haben diese Oberfläche kaum gesperrt, kaum, kaum. Du hast gesagt, du und Clinton haben ein Interview gemacht und der Host hat dir beide eine Frage gefragt. Deine Augen wurden geöffnet nach der Antwort. Kannst du diese Geschichte erzählen?
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I always think of the Sex and the City episode where Sarah Jessica Parker says to Charlotte's daughter, you know that these are just fairy tales, right? In the book. Did you watch Sex and the City?
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Oh, you were working. Never mind.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
Dare I say. That's something for a different podcast. But I understand what you're saying about living a fear base. I mean, I've done that for a long time. I think it's a I don't think I've ever put it that way, though. And I don't think I ever I don't consciously think about it. But when you say it, I do.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
You know, I always love when we first met, I loved you, then I fell in love with you again like 10 years later. And I'm so glad you're here. Thank you.
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It means so much. I know, I want to move this mic and run up and hug you.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
So while you were doing your show, you knew how to style though, right? Yes, because I came from magazines. Right, of course. And now it's all about the design. Those are three different careers, Stacey. So I don't think you have fear. I don't know that you live in fear.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
Ist das nicht großartig? Weil ich immer irgendwie unterschätzt, es ist nur eine Gemeinschaft, wenn ich Zeit habe. Ja. Wenn ich Zeit habe.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
I like this, Stacey. I like this, Stacey. Do you feel like you're saying yes these days to more things?
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
Ja, ich denke, ich hätte mehr Ja gesagt.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
Und nicht jemandem zu sagen, dass ich so fühle. Wir haben uns zuerst auf deinem berühmten Show getroffen. Ja. Nicht zu wehren. Ja. We barely knew each other. We were kind of like, we were there, we were both there. It was a real interesting episode. Yes, it was a very interesting episode. I met you and then we didn't see each other for a while. And then we were told to reconnect.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
Just a little shout out. About menopause, because we both happened to be talking. I think we were talking her ear off about it, I guess. And she was like, you guys should connect. And I'll never forget, we went down to the West Village. It was like a, I don't know if it was... I don't know what month it was.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
Ich liebe den Fakt, dass, wenn du in ein Interview gehst, Leute sagen, okay, Stacey, was trage ich? Was trage ich? Was trage ich? Was trage ich? Und du hast so 25 Läufe von dir, die ich fühle, dass ich mich immer aufheben möchte. Ich frage mich, was soll ich tragen? Aber was soll ich tragen? Du bist so richtig darüber, aber ich denke, dass all das zusammenhängt.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
Ich denke nicht an Kleidung und Stil und all diese Dinge sind sehr separat. Ich denke, dass all das Teil von uns ist. Wie viel Stoff wir in das nehmen, wie wir über Dinge denken, wie du... Ich würde sagen, inventiert. I don't like re, because it's like you did it wrong the first time and you made a mistake.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
Und ich werde das nicht mehr tun. Ich werde es nicht. Ich liebe es, dass du das gelernt hast, weil es noch viele Jahre vorhanden ist, das nicht zu tun.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
I was probably so nervous seeing you because I was like, she's all fashion. I have to be perfect. Oh my God.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
But I love that you do that and you lift all of them up. And I do think you do instill that confidence. And I can't imagine the stories you're hearing now are a lot deeper than you've heard before with women, helping them feel better about themselves, look like they want to look and not feel like they have to look.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
I mean, I probably, if you asked me. I think that's what I was thinking when I first met you. I was like, I just have to make sure that this is not a what not to wear outfit. Right. And most people. Now I'm like, oh, it's Stacey. It's fun. I can wear whatever I want. Right. But before it was like, I hope this is a what not to wear outfit.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
What do you do for people that feel like that? Because that's a real thing. That is a real thing. Ja, ich denke so auch.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
We've got to get this girl in some amazing clothes.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
Okay, I really love that part of the story. I didn't know. It's true. But I remember we sat there and we just after we got past like, how are you? How are you? And all the things that we do with each other, right? In life that we all are like, okay, everything's going to like, we really got down to it probably in the first 20, 15 minutes. I think we got down to like this, this.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
I see that in so many ways. And I've noticed now, I'm like, what do I need to make this complete and get rid of all this other crap? Because, you know, I think all of our styles evolved, but mine went from, I had two, you remember, I had two. Oh, I remember. Newsgirl Dress or Sweats with Holes in Them. That was it. There was maybe a pair of jeans. Maybe. Like a baby a pair of jeans.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
And so now it's, you know, I'm evolving.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
raw, real conversation that I think I've been missing for a long time or maybe I wasn't ready for in my life, right? Maybe I had put up this glossy front for such a long time that I wasn't ready to let that down yet and I remember we did and we started talking about this new midlife, this
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
Es ist psychologische Täuschung. Es ist psychologische Täuschung. Das ist, wer ich früher war. Und ich bin nicht mehr so eine Person.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
Das, was los war, Menopause, die Geschichte der Menopause, Mythen, die wir glaubten, wir waren nicht sicher, was wir verstehen und lernen. Es gab keine Konversation da draußen. Es war nicht alles auf meinem Instagram-Feed an dem Zeitpunkt. Es war nur diese Konversation, wie, was denkst du, was denkst du, bist du durch das? Ich bin auch.
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
Und ich erinnere mich einfach darauf, dass das so ein pivotaler Moment in all dem ist. Und das ist der Anfang der Zeit.
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
Well, so are you. Laura, she wrote in, 48, from Tampa. Hi, Laura. Listen, Laura says, every time I wear a miniskirt or something that is determined too young for me, somebody in my family makes some kind of comment. What do you say to those people? Right. Well, I mean...
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
If you had advice, and I always think about, I wish I had known this when I was younger. I say that all the time. I wish I was 26, I'd have known this. Is there anything you say, when I was younger, I wish I had known this?
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
Actually, in the doctor's office you don't even talk about it.
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
In the morning, at night, all day long?
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
Wouldn't that be great to have when you were young, though?
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
And you know who those women are that won't put up with it. You can feel them.
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
You've been around tremendous women. Yes. Best advice you've gotten from another woman.
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
Stacey London, I love you.
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
We'll find you. I could have talked to Stacey for 10 hours. Seriously, she is the best. I feel like every time she opens her mouth, there's some perfect mix of wisdom and wit. And I just want to write it all down. Clearing the closet hit me hard. You guys know I talk a lot about decluttering. I have clothes in my closet that I know don't fit, don't work, and honestly just don't make sense anymore.
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
So why am I holding on to those? I was thinking about that while she was talking. It's time to let go of the maybe someday and start making room for what actually fits in my life right now. Let's not forget the moment that she talked about standing in front of that mirror naked, seeing yourself, like really seeing yourself. And that is not easy to do, but it really feels so necessary.
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
So I'm going to give that a try, even if it makes me squirm a little bit. Let me know what you're thinking. If you're going to try the 10 outfits, stand in front of your mirror naked or do a closet clean out. I would love to know and love to hear more about it.
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
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Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
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The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
And saying those same words. Saying the same words. Like, what's going on? My body's changing. I can't believe this. Are my best years behind me? I mean, those are scary, awful words to come up on. I think what I also remember from that lunch, I remember going home and telling Ira, like, Stacey London was talking about menopause. Like, I mean, if she was going through that.
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
You know, because I think there's something to that when you see somebody who's so public and so beautiful and so... But I don't know that we all know who we are from the outside, right? Yeah. But when you're looking at you from the outside, I'm like, she has got it together. She is smart. She's bold. She's brave. And she's talking about this.
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
And I just remember thinking like, wow, there's somebody else that understands me. And she's so real about it, too. You know, there was no, I think we were both there talking about this. And I think that that's what I like seeing evolve in this conversation, is that real friendship and community is formed because of the need for that.
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
Und wir lernen viel über den Mittelpunkt. Du bist die Definition von Veränderung, von Veränderung, von da raus als CEO und nicht Angst vor diesen Worten, die ich glaube, es war sehr hart.
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
Und sehr hart. Und du warst sehr ehrlich. Ich erinnere mich, du gehst da raus jeden Tag. Das ist dein Lieblings. Dein Lieblings-CEO. Ja, und auch viele Fehler. Und viele Fehler, ja, natürlich.
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
We're all going in that lane, by the way.
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
But look what you learned from all that to go into now the business that you're in, which I am so proud of you. Well, but, you know, the reason that that happened...
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
Und dann habe ich gesagt, oh, ich muss das machen, weil du all diese, du kannst nichts aus dieser Zeit in der Leben verlassen.
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
Everyone knew you as style, style, style, Stacey London style. You're the definition of reinvention, of change.
The Tamsen Show
Stacy London: Reinvent Yourself (and Your Style) in Midlife
It's just your taste will change. I think we have to allow those things, though. And we talked about this before. You know, you talk a lot about allowing yourself. You have a very interesting viewpoint of it. Allowing yourself is not the same thing as being passive and just sitting back and watching things happen.
Training Without Conflict Podcast
Episode Sixty: Dr. Josef Witt-Doerring
All right, hello, my friends, welcome to TWC podcast number 60.
True Crime with Rachel Shannon
DISTURBING: Mom Claims she was "TRICKED" Into MURDERING Her Children: The Case of Tiffanie Lucas
Say what's up, y'all. Say what's up, people.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Alcohol in our relationship, maternity leave scandal & we bought a car
Jules has friends.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Alcohol in our relationship, maternity leave scandal & we bought a car
Wait, are you going to tell people that you bought a car?
Two Parents & A Podcast
Alcohol in our relationship, maternity leave scandal & we bought a car
One of the largest, apparently.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Alcohol in our relationship, maternity leave scandal & we bought a car
can we do it is there a quick look no i don't see that we can we can look for next week and where are we seeing all this from the the international breastfeeding journal book the one thing that i thought was interesting while i was looking things up was like how many pages nestle has on maternity leave on their website and it's like burying everything else in seo like because all their stuff is coming up first
Two Parents & A Podcast
Alcohol in our relationship, maternity leave scandal & we bought a car
Can Alex say Nickelodeon again?
Two Parents & A Podcast
Alcohol in our relationship, maternity leave scandal & we bought a car
He says Nickelodeon.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Alcohol in our relationship, maternity leave scandal & we bought a car
Harrison's neighborhood just seemingly was different.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Alcohol in our relationship, maternity leave scandal & we bought a car
My neighborhood's like your neighborhood.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Alcohol in our relationship, maternity leave scandal & we bought a car
Now copyright.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1046 | Uncle Si Has a Hot Take About Turning Water Into Wine & How to Deal With Alcoholism
Yeah.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1046 | Uncle Si Has a Hot Take About Turning Water Into Wine & How to Deal With Alcoholism
Yeah.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1046 | Uncle Si Has a Hot Take About Turning Water Into Wine & How to Deal With Alcoholism
I like it.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1046 | Uncle Si Has a Hot Take About Turning Water Into Wine & How to Deal With Alcoholism
Yeah.
Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1078 | Jase & Jep Get Hammered by Bad News & the Guys Own Their ‘Old Man’ Struggles
Hmm.
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201 - Two Fake Seals Spill Hollywood Secrets ft. Tyler Grey & AJ Buckley | Unsubscribe Podcast 201
Damn it, show's not here.
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I was like, where's she from?
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Is she from Ireland?
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Oh my God, the Delta guy going to spill all the secrets. Yeah.
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Just pretend like it's not okay. You're going to become a vigilante riding the New York subway.
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When it was free. That is the big indicator. So the time period of his life, it was a thousand rounds a day.
Very Really Good
Episode #270 - This BookTok Convention Was a Disaster
Enough of me talking about crap on my podcast, man.
Very Really Good
Episode #270 - This BookTok Convention Was a Disaster
Where's the sound I'm looking for? Do I not have a gasp on here? Okay.
Very Really Good
Episode #270 - This BookTok Convention Was a Disaster
Something like Dune Part 2. Search Dune Part 2 on TikTok. Search podcast on goldenglobes.com. You're telling me something like Dune Part 2? Or a complete unknown?
Very Really Good
Episode #270 - This BookTok Convention Was a Disaster
Like, fuck. These waves are ass, bro. These are fucking shit waves, bro. Like, I'm getting fucking, like, I'm not getting fucking pitted out there, bro.
Very Really Good
Episode #270 - This BookTok Convention Was a Disaster
Fuck, man. I ate way too much Eucharist last night, man.
Very Really Good
Episode #270 - This BookTok Convention Was a Disaster
Oh, dude, and the reef. Oh, my God.
Very Really Good
Episode #270 - This BookTok Convention Was a Disaster
I'm trying to find their first post. Like, holy fuck, guys. They post about it so much.
Very Really Good
Episode #270 - This BookTok Convention Was a Disaster
And then you're getting the tickets from, like, you could have bought so many rose petals, man.
Very Really Good
Episode #270 - This BookTok Convention Was a Disaster
And oh, and guess if we got to the airport? Oh, there was 500 kids in line. Oh, they were going on a school-wide field trip. Oh, my God.
Video Gamers Podcast
Silksong DOES Exist, Genshin Impact Troubles and Gaming Drama - Gaming Podcast
I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that.
Video Gamers Podcast
Silksong DOES Exist, Genshin Impact Troubles and Gaming Drama - Gaming Podcast
I can't get it out.
Video Gamers Podcast
Silksong DOES Exist, Genshin Impact Troubles and Gaming Drama - Gaming Podcast
Oh, come on, man.
Video Gamers Podcast
Silksong DOES Exist, Genshin Impact Troubles and Gaming Drama - Gaming Podcast
I can probably rob a bank. But you know what I'm not doing? I'm not robbing banks, man. Because it's wrong. And you know what else is wrong? A live service got a...
Video Gamers Podcast
Silksong DOES Exist, Genshin Impact Troubles and Gaming Drama - Gaming Podcast
You think a normal person would at least try that game? Especially a person that, I don't know, hosts a gaming podcast that can literally pick up the game on the dime of the podcast.
Video Gamers Podcast
Silksong DOES Exist, Genshin Impact Troubles and Gaming Drama - Gaming Podcast
Back to this story.
Video Gamers Podcast
Silksong DOES Exist, Genshin Impact Troubles and Gaming Drama - Gaming Podcast
Me too, me too.
Video Gamers Podcast
Silksong DOES Exist, Genshin Impact Troubles and Gaming Drama - Gaming Podcast
Oh, man. I love giving you flack on that. It's literally like the only podcast money you've ever spent.
Video Gamers Podcast
Silksong DOES Exist, Genshin Impact Troubles and Gaming Drama - Gaming Podcast
Yeah.
Video Gamers Podcast
Silksong DOES Exist, Genshin Impact Troubles and Gaming Drama - Gaming Podcast
And it's like, no, but there's another Battlefield news. Don't ask me what this voice is, man. It kind of went from... It turned into Dobby for a second there. I have another battlefield, master. Dobby is free.
Video Gamers Podcast
Silksong DOES Exist, Genshin Impact Troubles and Gaming Drama - Gaming Podcast
Why are they not involved in this?
Video Gamers Podcast
Silksong DOES Exist, Genshin Impact Troubles and Gaming Drama - Gaming Podcast
It's not that hard.
Video Gamers Podcast
Silksong DOES Exist, Genshin Impact Troubles and Gaming Drama - Gaming Podcast
Yeah.
Video Gamers Podcast
Silksong DOES Exist, Genshin Impact Troubles and Gaming Drama - Gaming Podcast
It's because of the cake. It's the cake we're going to learn. We're going to know, finally.
Video Gamers Podcast
Silksong DOES Exist, Genshin Impact Troubles and Gaming Drama - Gaming Podcast
That's all we got. And then the world lost its mind because they went, the cake was a lie.
Video Gamers Podcast
The Gift of Gaming: How Make-A-Wish Grants Gamers Dreams - Gaming Podcast
And that's why it's a seven out of 10.
Video Gamers Podcast
The Gift of Gaming: How Make-A-Wish Grants Gamers Dreams - Gaming Podcast
Thank you.
Video Gamers Podcast
The Gift of Gaming: How Make-A-Wish Grants Gamers Dreams - Gaming Podcast
No power up Mario, I think.
Video Gamers Podcast
The Gift of Gaming: How Make-A-Wish Grants Gamers Dreams - Gaming Podcast
I don't want this kid to be let down.
Video Gamers Podcast
The Gift of Gaming: How Make-A-Wish Grants Gamers Dreams - Gaming Podcast
That's awesome. Isn't that an awesome answer? He's in his mid-70s, and I'm just like, dude, this is the coolest thing I've ever seen, man.
Will & Rusty's Playdate
liam cullagh fought his guidance counselor
Just hit him right on the button.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
The Most Consistent Cool Guy w/ Jim Norton | Your Mom's House Ep. 795
Okay. Hello. Thank you. Pull the mic down a little bit. Can't lift the cup. Okay. How was the coffee?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
The Most Consistent Cool Guy w/ Jim Norton | Your Mom's House Ep. 795
Did I thank you enough?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
The Most Consistent Cool Guy w/ Jim Norton | Your Mom's House Ep. 795
I was talking. Can I get a coffee, please?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
The Most Consistent Cool Guy w/ Jim Norton | Your Mom's House Ep. 795
What do you mean another coffee? One cup of coffee doesn't make me another coffee.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
The Most Consistent Cool Guy w/ Jim Norton | Your Mom's House Ep. 795
This is your show, really? Don't be retarded. I might be retarded, but I'm not stupid. Retard?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
The Most Consistent Cool Guy w/ Jim Norton | Your Mom's House Ep. 795
I'm taking you to buy me something.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
The Most Consistent Cool Guy w/ Jim Norton | Your Mom's House Ep. 795
Please.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Thank you. Fucking favorite. You're mine. I'm in love with the two of you. I wish we could all be in a relationship. We can be. We can. Really?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Well, that's the thing now, isn't it?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Do you do this? Are you into this? Yeah, I have 17 partners. Yeah, that's fucking hot. Yeah, one of them is a camel. No, now I'm going to get hate mail. Like, that's not okay. You know, sometimes the lesbians are like, fucking camels isn't, you know, isn't okay.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Nicht so oft, aber wenn sie es tun, mag ich es immer und sage, du hast recht und so weiter. Wenn Leute mir Facebook-Hate geben, gehe ich auf ihre Webseite und blöde eine schreckliche Bildung von ihnen. Und dann war meine Antwort, ich war aus meinem Geist.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Ja.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Es ist TV. Ja, es ist eine TV-Sache. Sie sind so dumm. Sie sind so dumm. Sie sind so dumm.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Ja.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Ich verstehe das manchmal. Vor allem, wenn ich etwas über ein anderes Land mache oder einen Akzent. Das geht viral. Ich bin glücklich. Ich bin perfekt. Weil ich jemandem sage, woher kommst du? Und sie sagen, Spanien. Und einer von ihnen sagt, oh, ich liebe Tacos. Als Lüge. Es gibt 7000 Kommentare, dass Tacos nicht aus Spanien kommen. Und ich sage, wirklich? Ich hatte keine Ahnung.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Jesus. Oh my God. Is that my mother?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
I love you, just sending you love today.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Legal trouble? What possibly?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Yeah. Keanu contacted me. You're right, she's so tweaked.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
She's on crystal meth and has horrible PTSD. Like me. Ding, ding, ding. Ding, ding, ding.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
I don't feel bad for her. I feel bad because she is mentally ill and not at home. I mean it. I feel bad that she has a problem.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Okay, then you know what? It should go away. I'm sorry if you do that. I'm going to pretend to be Keanu Reeves. Imagine if I did it and contacted her again. I'm like, this is the real Keanu Reeves.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
I'm bloated today, but I love you.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Yeah, I mean, it would be amazing to hire Keanu Reeves to go to her house and kill her at this point. One big kick.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Her Face ist, wie ich mich all den Tag im Inneren fühle. Das ist, wie ich mich fühle. Ich habe nur panikiert.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Yeah, I know what you're saying.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Tom's like, yeah, it's better.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
I shot it at Sony Hall in New York City. I didn't want like a big theater. I like like a club feeling. I thought it was a big theater. No. Sounds massive. I know. Well, the crowd was great. They were amazing. It paid them a lot.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Congrats. I'm really excited about it. Du bist so lustig. Danke.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Ich weiß. Geh auf Jessica Curse auf World. Danke. Ich meine, die Fans sind es und die Audienzen und die Comics. Aber, weißt du, es war, es hat nicht, ich bin nicht bitter. Ich schwöre, ich bin so dankbar für das, was ich getan habe. Aber es ist ein bisschen, es war schwer, die Industrie mit so etwas an Bord zu bringen.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Das ist das Einzige, was mich frustriert, ist, wie lange es dauerte, um ein anderes Spezial zu bekommen.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Ja.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Ich weiß. Sie mögen nicht die Macht, einige von ihnen, und die, Entschuldigung, die Wahrheit zu erzählen und die, wie in deinem Gesicht, Art von Sache. Nein. Was wirklich, was Leute lachen. Das ist, was Leute lachen. Ja, sicher. Aber auch.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Nicht jeder von uns ist ein Mädchen-Comic. Das ist, weil wir kaum Frauen sind. Ja, ich habe einen riesigen Arsch. Aber die Sache ist, dass Mädchen-Comics mir immer gesagt haben, du bist nicht ein Mädchen-Comic, du bist ein Comic. Und viele von ihnen wollten mich nicht in New York folgen.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Ja, es ist riesig. Ich spreche nicht über die Frau. Nein, ich mag es nicht. Ja, ja. Well, I don't feel like a woman. Me either. I think I'm non-binary. Me too, but I wouldn't, like, it's not, meaning like from our generation. Yeah. You know, if you said that years ago, it would be like, what the hell are you talking about?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Yeah.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Yeah.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
You know what I mean?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
In der Schule. Aber dann kann ich Pussys essen. Ich weiß, viele Frauen sagen das. Sie sagen, ich kann andere Dinge machen, aber ich kann nicht essen. Was, wenn du einfach aus deinem Kopf geblasen wurdest? Klar, ich kann alles machen. In einem Blackout. Also geh in einen Blackout und dann isst du Pussys. Also hier ist das Problem.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Ich bin da mit dir. Oh, das ist heiß. That's how I get women. Yeah. I'm gonna seriously be sick. That is that sound. Ew, Tom!
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Look at that face you ended on again.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Me? No. As above, so below. She can't take care of her teeth. I love that you're being so nice about it. I wouldn't touch her with a fucking broom. Warum? Was? Schau dir ihre Gesichter an. Ja, ich weiß. Okay. Warum redet sie über ihre Tampons? Hat jemand sie verletzt?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Ich glaube, sie wäre eine tolle Lesbin, übrigens. Du würdest für sie sterben, um Boxen zu essen. Hier ist mein Problem.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. Like you just need a lasagna, some head and a TV, yeah. I think it is like that a lot. But it depends on who you're with. Because I've also been in relationships with women who are literally just black and white. Sie hat einfach gesagt, oh. Emotionally unavailable, that's my winter chicken. There are women like that.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
For me, no. Because I need to express myself. I'm into feelings and shit. I mean, my mother's a therapist. I know. I'm damaged. Oh, natürlich. Ich bin tot. Schau, wer hier ist. Glaubst du, dass du über deine Gefühle reden möchtest? Ich mag es nicht, aber wenn ich es nicht tue, werde ich daran halten oder so. Und ich hatte auch viel emotionalen Verbrechen. Du solltest jetzt Musik spielen.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Nein, du und ich sprechen immer über diese Scheiße. Manchmal sage ich, habe ich etwas gemacht? Oh, genau, das auch. Ja, ich war früher so mit ihm. Ja.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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Ich weiß.
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Ich stimme dir zu 100 Prozent. Ich denke, wenn du ein Trauma durchgehst, wie du es gemacht hast, weil ich das auch mit meiner Tochter getroffen habe, weil meine Tochter Herzschwäche hat. Also, das ist so aufregend. Don't worry, I'll show you pictures of her in the hospital. So, yeah, no, but once that happened, I was like, that's like, I'm so grateful and nothing else really matters.
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Oh, ich weiß, er ist süß, siehst du? Ich weiß, er ist so ein guter Mensch. Er ist wirklich so. Ja. Na, als sie durch das ging, hatte ich Invisalign.
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Das ist sehr schmerzhaft. Es schmerzt. Ja, ich kann nicht mehr.
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Es ist, weil es dich in eine Situation bringt, in der du denkst, das könnte alles enden oder ich könnte jemanden verlieren oder was auch immer es ist. Also ist all diese andere Scheiße nicht wichtig.
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Es tut.
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Ich weiß. Ich war einmal im Comedy-Seller in New York und ich war so gebrannt und habe jeden Wochenende auf der Straße gewesen. Und dieser Kerl hat mich einfach so in die Vorderseite geschaut. And I go, Sir, are you okay? And he's like, I'm just not having fun. I go, I lost it. I go, why don't you go uptown to the Children's Hospital of Columbia and sit in the lobby? Exactly.
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You're at a comedy show. Like, I lost my mind. I'm like, go sit there and look at all the children that are being wheeled around.
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Weil du denkst, diese Arschlöcher... Ich habe ihn am Freitagabend gemacht. In Florida. Sie sind der Beste. Sie sind da gewesen.
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100 Prozent. Ja. Ja, ich meine, sie sind wirklich, weil sie nach Hell und zurück sind.
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Wir müssen einen hier finden. Ich weiß. Ja, du solltest es einfach da rausnehmen, zu den Leuten. Schau, geh auf die Straße und frag einfach ein paar unabhängige Leute, ob sie wollen.
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Ja, ich bekomme dir eine Pfanne von Kokain, wenn du mit mir zu tun hast.
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Ich sage es dir jetzt. Ja. Wenn Leute mir sagen, oh, du weißt, es ist so hart, es ist die härteste Sache, die du jemals machen könntest. Ich bin so, nein, nein, geh, weil meine Tochter hat, sie ist neun und eine halb, sie hat vier Open-Art-Sirgen. Fuck. Ja, die erste war sechs Tage alt, also wussten wir in der Uterus, dass sie Open Heart Surgery haben musste.
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Und dann hat sie auch einen Stent, es ist ein Schmerz und sie braucht mehr. Die Leute sind immer so, oh, aber sie ist okay, richtig? Sie ist okay. Und ich bin so, nein, sie ist okay. Sie sieht okay aus. Sie geht zur Schule, danke Gott. Aber, weißt du, sie muss mehr haben. Also es ist nicht einfach. Es ist nicht einfach, aber sie ist großartig. Und du dealst damit. Was wirst du tun?
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Was zur Hölle wirst du tun? Kannst du dir vorstellen, performen zu können? Ich bin performen. Schau, wo mein Gehirn ist. Hey, wie geht's dir, Herz? Kannst du dir vorstellen, auf einem sechs-Tage-Jährigen zu arbeiten? Nein. Nein. Wer sind diese Leute? Die Ärzte? Ich weiß nicht, wie sie es tun. Ich habe die schlimmsten Dinge gesehen, die man in der ICU sehen kann. Für Monate gleichzeitig.
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There's nothing worse. No, there isn't.
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I know.
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Yeah. I think, well, I haven't shit in like three days, so I'm feeling really backed up. Yeah. Do you have anything here? You guys must have. Yeah, we definitely do. What do you have?
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Das hat mich daran gedacht, nicht zu scheißen. Weißt du, dass ihr beide Lesben seid, dass ihr eure Vaginen bereit macht? Wenn du stirbst, gehe ich nicht zu einem anderen Mann.
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Alright, I want both of you to... I literally just thought about when I was sexually... I swear on my life, I just had a flashback of when I was sexually... From watching this? Yeah, I'm not kidding, you think I'm joking. Do you guys want to practice real quick? That was really good.
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Was zur Hölle? Dieser Kerl ist das Literale. Er ist etwas. Er ist enttäuscht. Wer ist das?
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Oh my God, I'm seriously, I have to go on more medication. I'm so freaked out. Rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub. Rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub. Play it again. Rub, rub, rub.
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Ich weiß, ich bin ernsthaft. Wurdest du von einem chinesischen Mann verhaftet? Wenn ich von einem chinesischen Mann verhaftet wurde, hätte ich das gar nicht beobachten können. Nein. Nein, er war japanisch. Aber das Ding ist, ich werde nie mehr Sushi essen. Weil es Sushi betrifft. Es war wirklich aggressiv. Ich habe eine ganze Rolle in einem Moment gespielt. Anyway, I just wish it wasn't crunchy.
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That was so stupid, what I just said. Will you fucking kill me? No. Isn't it crazy how much we need to be liked?
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I know. That's the name of my production company, Please Like Me Productions. I swear on my life.
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Natürlich. Ja, bitte. Das ist alles, was wir brauchen. Und dann, egal wie viel... Du weißt, was ich gesagt habe. Wenn sie klatschen, stand up, standing up, ich bin so, es wird nie die Hülle füllen. Sit down. Es wird nichts tun. Ja.
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No, we have to do it from inside. You have to do the work, which I'm not willing to do. I'm so tired. Ja, das Arbeit ist zu viel, Mann. Es ist zu viel. Es ist viel. Es endet nie. Nein, ich weiß. Es gibt keine Ende-Therapie. Es gibt keine Ende. Ach, fuck. Ich weiß. Also was tun wir, Alter? Maintan wir das, bis wir sterben? Ich glaube, du versuchst nur, lebendig zu bleiben.
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Ich meine, das ist, wie ich gerade bin. Ja, einfach lebendig zu bleiben. Ja, versuch einfach, morgens aus dem Bett zu kommen.
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Weil ich jüdisch bin. Erinnerst du dich daran? Sie hat ihr Herz geteilt. Oh, okay.
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Oh.
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Es war ein Adamant. Ich hasse die Jews nicht.
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Ich dachte, du hast gesagt, geh auf den Train. Ich wusste nicht, was du gesagt hast, als du das gemacht hast.
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Dein Spezial war großartig. Go ahead.
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Yes.
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Ich finde das wirklich großartig und es ist auch wichtig für deine Beziehung. Es ist. Es ist wirklich so, weil ich weiß, dass manchmal, wenn jemand Partner ist, ob es ein Mann oder eine Frau ist, lässt es alles gehen und es ist einfach schwierig für die andere Person. Es ist nicht, mit wem sie zuvor war.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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Das ist das Schrecklichste. Nicht mal, dass sie nicht groß aussehen. Was ist passiert? Ja.
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I agree. It's really...
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Aber ich denke, ehrlich gesagt, manche Leute würden sagen, ich werde bald überleben. Ja. Und ich würde besser einfach rausgehen und mein eigenes Ding machen. Fuck. Ja. Das wäre verrückt.
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Ich weiß, weil wer bist du in deiner letzten Dekade? Es zählt, wie viel Geld du hast. Wer ist da draußen? Das ist...
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I just thought about him.
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What's he going to wear? A coffin?
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Oh, that's beautiful. That's not that much of a difference.
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It's just my lifetime. Does he even have a penis?
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I get it, he's hot.
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Oh, du sprichst von Mark Davis? Ja. Oh, dieser Kerl.
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Schau dir das linke Bild an.
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Oh mein Gott. Das ist ein cooles Haarabdruck. Oh mein Gott. Wer ist das?
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Can you blow up that face? I'm in the mood for pancakes.
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That's not just depressed.
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I knew that was the one you were gonna... That's exactly... Holy shit.
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Ich bin so entschuldigt, dass ich über den Feierabend gehört habe.
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Nein, das ist sein echter Haar.
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Weißt du, was großartig ist? Ich will nur sagen, weil es viel sagt. Er hat wahrscheinlich einen guten Job. Er liebt sich selbst. Ja, er scheint... Es ist unglaublich für mich. Es hängt davon ab, wie man sich entwickelt hat. Ich weiß. Es ist wirklich so. Ich erzähle meinen Kindern ständig, wie schön sie sind. Weil ich will, dass sie sich gut fühlen. Es ist großartig.
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Das Schreie ist das verrückteste Ding, das ich je gemacht habe. Es ist total verrückt. Okay, zuerst einmal. Oh mein Gott, jetzt ist es traumatisiert. Siehst du, das ist, was passiert ist. Das kann nicht der echte Schreie sein.
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Das kann nicht sein. Ich weiß. Es hat ein Echo drauf. Das fühlt sich falsch an. Okay, zuerst einmal, am Anfang war es lustig, weil ich immer lache, wenn Leute fallen, nicht crashen, aber sich einander, was auch immer. Jetzt ist es unglaublich traumatisierend.
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Ja, ja. Was denkst du?
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Das ist kein Fallen. Das ist ein extremer Fall.
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Ja. Ist jemand gestorben?
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I hope they didn't break their arm.
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No, they're not.
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That person lost their head. Yeah, well... That was real... That scared the shit out of me.
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Oh my God, I can't handle you.
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It did. I'm surprised. Can you imagine if we heard that?
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Du bist willkommen. Das war unglaublich. Danke. Ich kann es nicht glauben, das Video, das du mir gerade gezeigt hast.
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Das war traumatisierend. Ja. Verstehst du?
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Ich kann es nicht machen, aber mein Ex würde schreckliche Shows sehen. Wie Polizisten.
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Bereit, eure Augen zu öffnen? Ich weiß. Es ist nicht nur ein Mann-Ding. Okay. Ja, es ist auch ein Dike-Ding.
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Just warn me, because that's worse than... No, really? That's what I think too. That's what I thought when I saw it. I like that one. This is what it's like to fuck Mark Davis. You're that 24-year-old girl. If you are 24 and you fucking... He sounds like an old Jewish woman. You should expect those sounds. That camel looks like it's gone through fucking hell. Like it was thrown into a car.
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That camel looks like it's really... And it's a baby, isn't it?
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Einen Kamel?
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I've been there.
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Isn't this Seattle? Yeah, this is downtown. Atlanta. Yeah. Oh mein Gott, schau.
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Er schockiert es, während er es f***t. Oh mein Gott.
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We will never be the same. Oh, shit. God damn, Master! Master? God, Jimmy Walker looks horrible. He shrunk.
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Er hat sich aus seinem Schulter getroffen.
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I'm shocked.
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Master.
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Me and my girl ears. I love the guy just holding him. Like, what is that? It's okay, everyone feel like this.
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I hold you.
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I want to hit black for years.
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I wish I could play basketball like him. That one was intense. Yeah, right? The third one you just did. I gotta take a piss. You gotta piss? Okay. I'm drinking a lot of water. Alright. Go piss, man. Hurry up. Hurry up.
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Ja, ich bin wie du, ich bin immer auf Tour. Es endet nie. Ja. Ja. Ich bin ein bisschen überrascht über den Sommer, weil... Ich nehme es runter, Alter. Du bist es? Ja. Ja, ich auch. Aber es ist so, dann werde ich müde.
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Ich arbeite nicht. Ja, mein Leben ist vorbei, meine Karriere endet. Ja, immer. Ich weiß. Wann stoppst du deine Tour?
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Oh.
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Ja.
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Ich mache mehr als das, nur weil ich nur noch arbeiten und so weiter muss. Aber wo bist du dieses Wochenende?
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Ich weiß nicht, wie du es machst. Wenn Leute mir das sagen, sage ich, egal, aber du arbeitest wirklich hart.
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Oh mein Gott, ich liebe das. Die Hälfte von ihnen wurde ausgeräumt.
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Es waren sechs und wir haben drei gemacht. Oder so etwas.
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Ja, du hast uns gesagt, kannst du uns immer in Kanada booken, während dieser Saison, wenn es regnet? Ja.
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Das wäre toll.
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That was more shocking than the guy flying into the car. I'm serious. That shocked me, what just happened.
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Yeah, because it was... First of all, let's talk about it. It was planned.
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It was very aggressive. No, you knew it was coming and you waited to sit down. Just be honest.
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And it was... Das war nicht nur eine, aber sie gab es extra.
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Ja, es war wie der zweite. Ich werde immer noch ein Lesbiker werden. You're more so get to be a lesbian now that you just blew it out your ass.
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You're gonna die laughing. It was two, right? I have an obsession with the number three and I swear on my life, it's killing me that you didn't do a third.
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Can you just do one more? You think I'm joking? Hold on.
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No, just before I leave or I'm going to have a horrible day.
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Can he finish this? Yes, it doesn't matter. I don't have one in the chamber. Do any of you guys have to fart?
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My manager Adam's here. Adam, do you have to fart? I wish I could.
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We used to have a fart mic. Yeah, I've heard a lot of farts. Like it was... Is that my daughter's dance recital? What the fuck was that?
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I know I love you so much. What a lucky, lucky girl. I thought that when you did it. I'm like, she loves me.
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Let's have some roast beef from you.
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Yes, you would.
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You've probably done it in an elevator to joke around with me or something. Probably. Yeah. Kill me. The both of you kill me.
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Ja, Alter.
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Ich glaube, du hast recht. Es sind fünf Jahre, denkst du nicht?
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Ich weiß, ich wirklich. Nun, ich meine, jeder, der davon Spaß machen würde. Sie hat ihren Stomach getappt. Was ist da drin? Nun, es gibt viel da drin. Nun, ich sage, sie bekommt Tüftel, nicht das Baby.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
I mean, I'm not making fun of her, I'm disgusting.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Ja, diese Art von Sachen sind, muss ich sagen, schmerzhaft für mich. Es ist nicht glücklich. Es ist, als würde sie jemanden töten. In meiner Meinung, gibt es viel Angst dazwischen. Das ist ein total hergestellter Lächeln, oder? Das ist nicht ein echter Lächeln.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Das ist anders. Aber ich denke, dass sie zu den Leuten erklärt hat, dass sie mir nicht sagen soll, was ich tun soll. Sie soll mir nicht sagen, ob ich ein Baby haben soll oder nicht. Das ist mein eigenes Körper. Ich kann das, weißt du. Ich denke, es ist großartig, was auch immer sie will.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Debbie, das ist warum. Debbie hat fünf, du hast keine. Ja, wir hassen dich. Na, das Umdrehen, das Umdrehen, das Kuchen, das ganze Ding, es ist wirklich extrem. Das Umdrehen. I've never twirled. I've never twirled in my life.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Twirl. Can you imagine twirling? I'm in my hotel. I know him. Warte einen Moment. Warte, warte, Jessica. Totally nude. Jessica, warte. Oh, danke so sehr. Ich fühle mich wirklich besser. Weil ich muss alles machen. Wenn ich Toilettenpapier nehme, ist es drei oder vier an der Zeit. Ich bin nicht verrückt. Ich muss meinen Alarm auf meinem Telefon, mein Auto drei Mal. Ja, ich habe ein Problem.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Oh, wow, das ist wie ein echter OCD. Ja, ja, ja. Also, wenn sie ein drittes Mal nicht lacht.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Just keep going. He might be a comedian.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Oh mein Gott.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Right.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Oh mein Gott, something's wrong. I'm not kidding. I feel like there's smoked salmon in his teeth. It's even worse. Yeah. Like he just had a bagel with onion and Nova. I'm sweating.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
You guys thought I was, I'm sorry, I just freaked out, but I cannot. Now I feel sexual. From Barry. I love that we both feel.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
I do.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
He's a really nice guy, but I don't even know what he just said. I'm not kidding. I'm really not saying this to be funny. I have no idea what he just said.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Warum ist diese Frau in der ersten Bildung?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Verstehst du? Bella-Chick. Ja, das ist lustig.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Das ist mein Agent. Was macht Barry hier?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Ich dachte, dass das nur... Ich hatte keine Ahnung, dass das sein Bein war. Sein Bein ist so verrückt. Kann ich dir was sagen?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Nie? Und sie... Ich meine... Sie tut es? Wenn ich hier bin, werdet ihr sterben. Weil er ein großer Fan von mir ist. Echt? Großartig. Er hat mich letzte Woche getextet. Wie? Ich kenne ihn seit Jahren. Warte, war das mein Arsch?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Er hat einige meiner Sachen gemacht und mich getaggt und seltsam gemacht. Wenn du auf always be silly schaust, ist es mein Tag und er macht etwas, was ich gemacht habe.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Ja, mit Zimt. Er muss viel Zimt haben. Er liebt Zimt. Glaub mir. Geld...
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
I hope he doesn't kill me now.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Jessica Curzon said... Do you understand how fucking crazy this is that you guys played his video and you just clicked on one video?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
My tagline... This is so fucking crazy. My tagline for 20 years has been always be silly. Always has been that. So he does videos sometimes and says...
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
He'll just come to show, like he came to the Stress Factory the last time I was there. This was years ago and just watches me and says, you're great. Like he hasn't been...
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Sie machen dich klein.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Ich meine, er ist sehr unterstützend. Wow, das war fucking surreal. Das war ziemlich großartig. Das war verrückt. Ich weiß nicht, wie du es hier spielst, aber das war... Das war wild.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Would you like a partner that did age-shifting? Was this right before a school shooting? Okay, that might be one of the top, most disturbing ones. Thank you. How do you feel about it?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Well, he's not gay, right?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Er mag es nicht, es in Videos zu sehen. Nein, er ist nicht homophobisch. Er mag es einfach nicht, wenn schwarze Männer sich aneinander bewegen.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Hier ist etwas, was er nicht mag. Schau, er schlägt seinen Kopf.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Well, he's not even smiling. No. Oh, he's like that.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
I understand that. Me too.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
I know, and I shouldn't have fucked him. Such a big mistake. This is really intense. It's intense, yeah. That's an intense ass. Yeah.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
I know. Yeah. Wait, what's your video? What shuts you down? Oh mein Gott. Ich weiß nicht. Ich denke, dass aggressiv-aggressive Männer das auch tun. Aber die Art, wie sie sagen, komm schon, ich werde dich verletzen. Das ist wie eine Lüge, die ich habe, wenn ich mit rechten Männern komme. Ich würde sagen, ich kann dich verändern. Du hast einfach nicht den richtigen Mann. Ich hasse das. Natürlich.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Ich werde dich verletzen. Ich hasse ihn so viel.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Ich habe ihn 10, 15 Mal verletzt, bevor ich mal in den Boom ging. Does he fuck them with his nose? Does he have a really big nose or just up close?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
It's very disturbing. I feel that way. I'm also not into like, I cannot watch someone being tortured or any kind of assault or that kind of thing. I can't watch it.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
I'll fucking throw up. What did you do when your kids did that? They don't eat their boogs. They were never like boogiers.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Like the camel. Oh, ah, ah, ah.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
That's why I was laughing.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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Didn't they say pig at some point?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Yeah.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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Ist das ein Show?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Du steckst aus. Aber was würde sie wollen, wenn sie gesagt werden, dass ihr Fett aus unserem Land kommt? Ich denke, jemand war einfach so, willst du eine gute Mahlzeit haben?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Oh, that's amazing. It's an intervention.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Kannst du dir vorstellen, dass du in es gestockt wirst?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Das muss schon geschehen sein. Ich musste früher für einen Seatbelt-Extender fragen. Und das war verrückt. Verrückt, oder? Verrückt. Erzähl mir das erste Mal. Ich versuchte, es ruhig zu machen. Ich dachte, was? Was brauchst du? Okay, so you need a seat connector. Like it was really, yeah.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Und die Flugabteilung ist so, hast du deine... Und sie war schwer. Ich werde es nie vergessen. Sie war schwer. Und sie ist so, hast du... Ist dein Seatbelt befestigt? Ich habe... Ich habe früher eine Jacket übergebracht. Und ich bin so... Sie ist so, ich muss sehen. Ich werde es nie vergessen, weil sie sehr schwer war.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Und ich musste sie zeigen und sie war so, das ist nicht fest und lass mich dich einstellen. Ich war so, du bist, das war wirklich schrecklich. Sie sollte es nur diskret hier hören. Ja, wie wenn man weiß, wie es sich fühlt.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Ja, es war wirklich unglaublich. Das ist nicht schön.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Ja, ich auch.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Du hast nur Roppe gebracht und ihn um die Seele geschnitten.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Yes, you could. Standard?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Welcome to Korea. He's chubby? He's chubby. Yeah.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Yeah, that's not a lot. Not even that, I don't even know.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Sie sind wirklich großartig, die internationale. Unglaublich. Café Pacific, Etihad. Wo immer die Frauen am schlechtsten behandelt werden, haben sie das beste Flugzeug. Oh mein Gott, das ist so wahr. Die Arab Emirates.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Yeah, they're like, if I want to stay alive, I better go back and ask her what she wants. Yeah, exactly. So true.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Just fantastic. I love you so much.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Ich bin so froh, dass er dich genommen hat. Ich weiß. Wir haben es gemacht. Er ist unglaublich. Nein, das ist der Fakt. Das ist das Ding. Tom ist einer der Jungs, der mir geholfen hat, ihn unter seine Rücken zu nehmen. Ja, du hast es. So hat es auch Bill Burr. Er ist ein guter Champion der Lady Comics.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Er ist großartig für mich. Er hat dieses Spezial produziert, das letzte. Wenn es nicht für diese Jungs wäre, weil keine der Frauen Comics mich jemals auf die Straße genommen hat, um sie für sie zu öffnen. Ich meine... Du bist zu lustig. Du hättest es wissen können, aber ich würde dich nicht folgen.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Don't Pull My Tampon String! w/ Jessica Kirson | Your Mom's House Ep. 812
Invisalign, I'm still recovering.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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Don't I?
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I was a blues man when this shit came out. Hell yeah. Rock and roll was so fucked up back then.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Right.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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Whoa. Oh, I love this song.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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Oh, Guns N' Roses?
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Sweet Child of Mine, yeah.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
What's up, everybody, man? We are sitting here in the NOLA, the Big Easy, at Super Bowl 59, man. The biggest event in America. Sitting right next to Burt Kershaw. Hey, I can pronounce your last name. Burt Kreiser. Burt Kreiser. Burt Kershaw.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
white women stop abandoning your sisters trust black women they lead the way oh we're mad as hell oh can't you tell oh we're mad as hell can't you tell we just dance you fucking bastards okay so cool that's a great that's in the Castro it looks like queering out the women they were queering out the dudes yeah
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Dude, that's fantastic.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
It sounds like it.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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African Americans, Puerto Rican, and not the Jews because nobody likes them. Everybody else is included. Creole.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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Creole.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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How come she's got regular Asians?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
I honestly think that Hitler was a good guy.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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That's her.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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They're not all suck.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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How do I describe what it was like?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Yeah, it was too much.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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Tommy.
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Right.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Wow. Guy Fieri. It's Guy Fieri. Those of you listening.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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That's a lot. Oh, by the way, you want sauces on your thing? You're a dollar a piece. Fuck you, guy. These places are closing left and right. This guy's a complete piece of shit. How about that?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
He's so mad.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
I just wanted to say happy new year. I truly appreciate each and every one of you being part of I Allegedly and subscribing to the channel. And I look forward to 2025. We're going to have an amazing year. So much is going to happen. Very different energy. Yeah, he's normal here. He's professional. Onward and upward, guys.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Yeah. He's sauced up in that one.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
I'm on St. Kitts shopping. St. Kitts? They've got cigarettes.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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And they say smoking kills. So kids, don't smoke, okay? Because smoking kills. That is hilarious, guys. Look at this. All say... Smoking pills. Smoking pills.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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I absolutely get a kick out of our politicians.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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Saying things that are not questioned. Kamala Harris last week announced her economic plan. And one thing she announced was that she was going to build 3 million low-cost houses and apartments. That's fantastic, guys. Think about this. In a four-year term, that would be 1,460 days. If you divide that by 3 million, it's 2,064 a day that she would have to build. What?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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Oh, Dan, you're being a buzzkill. Come on, man. You just got to do it.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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No. It's amazing. Have accountability for these guys. I love it. It's that simple. We can't do the Oprah. You get a car. You get a car. You get a car. Oh, you don't get a car? He's having fun with stickers.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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Hey guys, it's that time of the year and I just want to be the first. In your life to wish you guys a Merry Christmas.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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It's never too early for Christmas. Okay. Okay. So I allegedly wishes everybody.
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In June. Okay.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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So I was filming in Pasadena, and as I was leaving, I was on the phone with a buddy and said, oh, wow, there's a Popeye's chicken. Haven't seen one of those in a while. And he's like, hey, could you do me a favor and stop and get some Cajun rice for me? Sure. And I remember their Cajun rice as being like a flavorful, spicy rice with meat in it and stuff like that.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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Oh, it's got rice and beans in it now, sir. This. Is there a Cajun rice now?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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Let me know what you think.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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And you don't have to eat at Popeye's.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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What? Are they going out of business, Popeye's?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Okay. I mean.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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That was five years ago.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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Hey, it's Dan. Welcome back. You're watching I Allegedly. And I've got a good one for you today because I've been banned for life from Walmart. Please hit the like button. Please subscribe to the channel. Yes. Today we have a sponsor, Private Internet Access, which I will get into in a little bit. But let's get right into it.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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Okay, so it's not me that's been banned. It's a woman named Ashley Cross. And this is something that we've talked about a few months ago. But Ashley Cross has been banned from 4,600 Walmarts. All of them. Can't step in. And the reason for that is that she went out and she took...
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one item that was very inexpensive and then she would scan it at the self-checkout and what she would do is she would use a watch battery which was a little over a dollar and she would then scan that and they caught her scanning about 180 dollars with the merchandise jeans and shirts and other things yeah and with that they said no you're done so They are fed up with this.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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They're absolutely done with this behavior. The self-checkout is where they get robbed blind.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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Well, yeah, why are they doing that?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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I hate self-checkout. Scan five items, take out six. And Walmart is fed up with it. Walmart's completely done with it. And so she's done.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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Is that the story? This is a 19-minute video about Ashley?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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He's walking home. But again, arrested her for this. This is what you want to avoid, guys. I'm telling you. What? Want to avoid stealing? I had a guy I was filming at that self-checkout. Oh, his first time in a grocery store, man. So I said something. Anyways, you know, come on, guys. Mind your own business. Be aware of this stuff, guys, because I'm telling you this right now.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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You want to do something interesting? Do a search on how many people have been arrested at the self-checkout.
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Hello, my name is James.
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James, what are we getting for you?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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I'd like two pink drinks, please.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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What size?
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Large.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
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Two large pink drinks. Anything else?
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That'll be all, love. All right, we'll see you out there.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Have a good day. And this is for you. Oh, thank you. Happy birthday. Thank you. Have a good day. Cheers.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Yeah, it's got to be bad. With vanilla. I'll take it hot, please. And may I have that with vanilla? Oh, this is good. And then for me, I think I'll try one of them new Cortados. That's really good. No, thank you, please. All right. No, thank you. Drink stopper, please. Thank you. And this is for y'all. Yep. It's your birthday. Happy birthday.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
It's your birthday.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Happy birthday. So stupid.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Yeah, he was good. Hello there, love. Can I get a...
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
large chestnut frappuccino please would you like love oh yes can i get another large matcha frappuccino please do they oh yes uh do strawberry drizzle
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Is it your birthday today? Is it your birthday? Yeah. Do you know Craig? Craig told me it was your birthday. You don't know? Must be the other Starbucks. Sorry, sir.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Yeah, he didn't even hear him. I don't think he heard.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
You look retarded, bro. I think he heard him.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Thank you, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Bitch, don't play with me. Do not play with me. Do not play with me because I'm not the one or the two. You're not the one or the two. Let's go. You ain't got shit to do. Spirit air. Remember what I was telling you about service industry? Not good. Right? Yeah, it's beer. Jesus. Wow.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
And I said what I said. Please step to me like you want it.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
You're not the one or the two.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Yeah, fuck, man.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Nigga, my night. Oh, jeez. Oh, jeez.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Yeah. Yeah.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
At school.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
I've seen that growing up in school.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. That was big in my school.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
One time in middle school, these two ghetto white bitches, they threw down. They were throwing kicks and stuff. That was during a passing period. That was kind of cool to watch.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
White boys.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
I saw a white kid get turned into a vegetable. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Mom, this kid I know punched this other guy I know, and then the kid got knocked out and hit his head on a curb, and now he's broccoli.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
I grew up in small town Nebraska, and it was all, like, farmers and, like, trailer kids fighting all the time. Yeah. White kids, small towns.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
uh yeah i was at a house party and uh so he punched him and then the kid was perfectly placed when he fell his head and hit the back of a curb and now he's uh he's pretty retarded did that other because usually when those things happen you get like you get arrested Yeah, he got arrested. I was supposed to go to school with him. I was supposed to go to college with him.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
And since he had a court case, he couldn't come to school.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Tom, go do your act. Mike!
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
All right.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Here we go.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Absolutely. Well, we're in a very good position to talk about what's going on. Okay. Jesus Christ. Dr. Drew, it's a hypothyroidism.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
And she knows how she looks.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Why don't you just say something? We work with a lot of Fortune 1000 organizations.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
She hasn't blinked either. No. And we get a good pulse on what's ramping and areas of growth. I'm going to pee. She didn't blink.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
You're dating a misandrist and you've transitioned in front of them and they are like part of the reason you're struggling to even identify as a man or trans masculine. You're like, I'm, you know, non-binary, but I, and hey, I am complicated. I'm non-binary. I'm a woman. I'm also a man though. And I do look like this and I'm walking the world like this.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
And so this person during one of our flights was like, I don't see you as a man though. And I said, that's weird. Everybody else fucking does. And they were like, I was like, you maybe should look at me a little closer. Cause what are you seeing?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
He just totally destroys her.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
If this circle represents all of the open defecation that happens in the world.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
This is the fraction that happens in India.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
And this is the fraction that happens only in rural India. 65% of rural Indians defecate in the open. So what that means is that most of the open defecation that happens in the world happens in rural India.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Yeah, we got it.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
And most rural Indians defecate in the open.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
We got it.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Every day, 500 million people... in villages in india we get it go in the fields yes rather than use a toilet or a latrine we got it what's the that's bigger than the population of the united states why why why why choose to do that they're all poor and stuff no india what's the reason to choose the field shit
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Mm-hmm.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Well, that's her. That's her in her 40s.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Yeah, of course. I live for this kind of shit.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
We need to get you on stage. Yeah, yeah.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Oh, my God. What the fuck?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Thank you, Marta. Thank you.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Eddie? Down. Down. Down. Yeah.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Nice, Eddie.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Hell yeah.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
They have Therian masks at Ikea. Breaking news. These are legit. This is a Therian mask. I don't know how you can not know me otherwise.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
They have a whole box of them. And I just think Ikea is getting with the times. If you're doing quadrobics at the Ikea, I don't think they would judge you.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
You see, I've not been real proud of it, but my grandmother was a witch, an astrologist, somebody that studied the stars. My mother's name's JoJo. You know, the government knows Dorinda. The FBI knows JoJo.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Honorea boy here, literally, just had this shirt made thanks to my Facebook friend named Tina at a place called Embroidery Plus in Las Vegas.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
We walk in Fremont any minute now. On Friday, I'm going to be going to Little Italiana in Summerland between like 3 p.m. And maybe like seven. So if you want to come hang out there, that'll be pretty fun. Get gonorrhea.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Vote Warren for next season. Vote Warren for North America too. Good time to record. Outside. We're going to keep it going. But thank you so much, Tina. This shirt will be for auction eventually. I'll autograph it and see if anybody wants it. Gonorrhea boy.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
10 million in the bank got a clearing got a bad bet you just gotta carry 10 million We'll be right back. I'll be popping. Call me 10 million. I'll be popping. Call me 10 million. I'll be popping. I'll be popping. I'll be popping. Call me 10 million. 10 million. The bank got a clearing. I just got this new whip. Karen staring 10 million away. I'll be losing sight. I'll be writing mostly stores.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Now I'm on a flight. Feeling kind of thrilled. White girl cornrows with a crazy feel. Disgraceful. Completely normal. This bitch a ball hog. Now I'm feeling formal. I be popping. Call me 10 milli tons. I be popping. Call me 10 milli tons. I be popping. I be popping. I be popping. I'll be popping, call me 10-millimeter. I'll be popping, call me 10-millimeter.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
I'll be popping, call me 10-millimeter.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Tommy.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Would you marry your mom?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Come on.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
I don't know.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Of course.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Yes. Yeah. I really would.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Tom's DMT Voyage | Your Mom's House Ep. 798
Like neurons and stuff firing.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Merry JEANS-mas! w/ Jeff Dye | YMH Ep. 790
Mid-story. Mid-story. Yeah, dude, that rules.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Merry JEANS-mas! w/ Jeff Dye | YMH Ep. 790
But the point is, if you do it in a pool or something.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Merry JEANS-mas! w/ Jeff Dye | YMH Ep. 790
I want to see that shit.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Merry JEANS-mas! w/ Jeff Dye | YMH Ep. 790
It's funny. It's just funny to me. It's funny.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
Of course.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
I spent so much time playing with my ass. Yeah. Yeah.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
So disgusting. Guys do that all the time. Who I am without my hole.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
When you're about the size 16. Yeah. That's good. That's good. Frederica Bimmel. She's a great big fat person. Oh, yeah. She goes, oh, she's a great big fat person. Oh.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
Which is terrible.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
It's a catastrophe.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
Could you stop sharing everything?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
Hey, Heather needs to trim this up for my socials. I got those Mother's Day stuff coming up.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
She looks great in Atomic Red.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
I love it. I don't care. She's so talented. Oh, she looks great in it. Kimberly. That was pretty great. Kimberly.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
Yeah.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
Yeah. I'll bet myself.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
You don't like your dog? I've collected my fingernails for six years, and here's why. Back in 2019, I decided to start fighting my fingernails. I'm gonna throw up. I've never once had a nail biting session where they didn't go into the jar. Every single nail is accounted for. Even when I've had to travel, I'd pack a small size.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
I'd return home. I'd add them to the jar. I'm going to fucking puke. And the answer is simple. As you can see, every single nail is very white and clean. Like bones. Like bones.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
There's absolutely never any dirt.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
garbage tickler or anything. I'm pretty hygienic. And as you can see, the jar is getting pretty full.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
This is what he shares.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
What?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
I'm going to throw up. That's the stupidest way anybody's ever eaten a bed of butter. I feel sick.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
It's okay. I won't take offense.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
Newey.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
You don't like animals?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
Oh, this one. This guy is my new favorite.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
I knew you liked this.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
How special. Synergy, Tom.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
He just whispers to the panties on his head. I don't want to see it again. I'm okay.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
Fisting is such a gigantic part of my identity that I feel like a part of me is gone. I feel like there's a big vacancy left where fisting, I don't know what to do with myself during most of the days. I spent so much time playing with my ass and sitting on toys and just playing on cam and just being a general pig with my butthole that trying to fill the days now is really kind of weird.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
Fuck yeah, dude.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
Wow.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
I don't have a lot of other hobbies, and so it's kind of forcing me to take a mirror to myself and look at myself and figure out who I am without my hole. because I don't really know who that is anymore because I've been kind of one with my hole for so long. It's been giving me purpose. And so now I have to kind of figure out what that looks like without it.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
What do I do?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
Yeah.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
It was his championship.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
That's correct. Yeah. He prolapsed real bad and he had to go to the hospital for a while. Fuck. He had to like shit into a colostomy bag.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
You don't want that.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
Yeah. Yeah. And now we host the bro lapse podcast, which is just about life after his asshole. Nope.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
Was fisting change at all during this experience or like the way you connect with it, like either emotionally or spiritually? Did it change after you went through this traumatic experience?
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
I'm just conscious, more conscious. Like before I knew there was like a risk, but like every risk you...
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Too Hot For The Gays | Your Mom's House Ep. 806
always think that that's not going to happen to me but i mean i'm a small guy i'm short so i'm i think in i'm five seven five five seven so i was like pushing myself too much because i wanted to be at the same level of other content creators that's the problem with content today that's what i think is like a big it's like this this is insane i love this with other creators
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Mike Birbiglia Cracked Up The Pope | Your Mom's House Ep. 810
You're like, what the... Which is really easy to happen after kids.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Mike Birbiglia Cracked Up The Pope | Your Mom's House Ep. 810
Yeah.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Mike Birbiglia Cracked Up The Pope | Your Mom's House Ep. 810
No, I know.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Mike Birbiglia Cracked Up The Pope | Your Mom's House Ep. 810
Whoa.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Mike Birbiglia Cracked Up The Pope | Your Mom's House Ep. 810
Yeah.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Mike Birbiglia Cracked Up The Pope | Your Mom's House Ep. 810
Oh, check it out!
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Mike Birbiglia Cracked Up The Pope | Your Mom's House Ep. 810
He kills. Yo, he kills.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Mike Birbiglia Cracked Up The Pope | Your Mom's House Ep. 810
It's so awful.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Mike Birbiglia Cracked Up The Pope | Your Mom's House Ep. 810
Oh, come on.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Mike Birbiglia Cracked Up The Pope | Your Mom's House Ep. 810
Oh boy.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Mike Birbiglia Cracked Up The Pope | Your Mom's House Ep. 810
Yes.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Mike Birbiglia Cracked Up The Pope | Your Mom's House Ep. 810
Aw.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Mike Birbiglia Cracked Up The Pope | Your Mom's House Ep. 810
So she's always telling them.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Mike Birbiglia Cracked Up The Pope | Your Mom's House Ep. 810
Yeah.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Christina Faces Her Deepest Fears (It's Puke) | Your Mom's House Ep. 796
Sure. I did a couple of dates with Burt Kirscher. Yeah, Burt. Yeah. And let me tell you, it was a dude who played the drums, the guitar, and the keyboard. And the thing was, he was good. He was good. They laughing at me? Well, you know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about right now when I say that.
Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura
Christina Faces Her Deepest Fears (It's Puke) | Your Mom's House Ep. 796
Wow.
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