Guest Speaker 2

No.

Literally, he just screams. He just screams.

Mom, I love you.

Okay?

Wait, what?

Okay?

And I said...

Yes.

And I think it was... And it works. What's so fun about this movie is that I think there's, like...

I know.

Yeah.

I still remember there was like a People Magazine article. It was like the return of Charlie Orsmo. It was just sort of like, here he is. You remember him from Hook?

He's a teenager now.

And then he was gone again. But he's great in this movie.

This is a Six Feet Under prequel.

You got Freddy Rodriguez here.

I love that you put Sarah Rue in that list. Jerry O'Connell.

Jenna Elfman.

Yeah.

I mean, it's just like you've got Seth Green out of Buffy. You've got Jenna Elfman out of Dharma and Greg. Like, yeah, the sort of like this is TV, but make it a movie vibe is here. And I think what I loved when they talked about casting this film, they said they knew so many actors who played teenagers. They weren't all teenagers themselves.

They were all in their 20s, but actors who could play teenagers. They knew so many of them who were out of work. And so they just had all of them come in and read. They threw all their headshots on the floor and were just sort of like picking and choosing. And if you didn't make a lead role, they just stuck you in one of these side roles and everyone said yes to it.

Debra Kaplan was dating Breckin Meyer at the time.

So he just like brought all his friends over. Seth Green's here, you know, all that sort of stuff. And it's just like...

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

No, it's perfect because when Lauren Ambrose's character calls him out later for it and he drops his black accent that he's adapted, and then when his friends drop the N-word in front of actual black people later in the movie, and they're just like, fuck. So the movie knows exactly what it's doing, I think, with this character.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The use of Mandy, the Barry Manilow piece inside of this. The use of the Guns N' Roses song. Yazoo, Only You, playing at the end. That's an 80s movie throwback track.

Yeah, exactly.

Oh, yeah. The Romeo and Juliet drop. Yeah.

When I read that, which I think was in the Ringer piece about this, it really clicked something in place to me. Because if you think about that scene in Say Anything with Lily Taylor singing about Joe. Joe Lies.

When he cries. Yeah, you're just dipping inside of all these different little groups inside that party. Yeah.

Yeah, it's like 15, 20 minutes, the whole movie. This movie also just goes and goes and goes.

Every scene, like, you're following a character out of a scene right into another character in the next scene, or there are these fascinating cuts, like...

Preston turns off the radio and as his hand blacks out the screen, Melissa Joan Hart like opens the trash can, you know, it's just sort of like it doesn't let you breathe in a way that doesn't feel panicky, but feels just sort of like it's a wild party night and we're just going to go from one scene to the next.

Hell yeah, that's where it belongs.

The Golden Popcorn.

I didn't look into it, but I can't wait to know what TRL had to do with Can't Hardly Wait.

Way too low.

Yeah. 20s at the lowest, I would say. And because, I mean, the 80s were just full of them. Yeah. The other thing is, Debra Kaplan and Harry Alphont, have you seen Josie and the Pussycats? No.

I think that this movie and that movie, which they also did, which also has Seth Green and Breckin Meyer and the foreign exchange student in this movie and stuff like that, Tara Reid, is just like a meatball right down the middle of, again, a specific generation, a specific sense of humor. And when you just see the Pussycats, a movie that a lot of people write off because it looks so dumb.

But as Alan Cumming and Parker Posey, which everyone loves right now, is like one of the funniest things I've ever seen. And it has this similar sort of joke per minute rate inside of that movie. So really underrated.

Which is not terrible, but not what they wanted.

We all wanted to be Denise, I think, watching this movie. You know? Like, the best.

Traffic's a good one.

Yeah, sure.

And the barrier is bad. But I think, well, I think because I've been coming to the office so much, I have an actual commute, which is not true when I'm back home. So, yeah.

We should.

This is hard because... So hard because they're all micro scenes that sort of bleed into each other.

Yeah. Boba Fett, Grand Moff Tarkin. I don't want to be Grand Moff Tarkin.

I do know that it's, it's funny because I'm not, I didn't put it in what's aged poorly or whatever, but they were all like, they all want to be Boba Fett because Boba Fett's so cool. And that was before Disney plus made a TV show about Boba Fett that made Boba Fett way less cool. Oh, so that's what's aged the worst. Yeah.

Yeah. Um, when he starts talking to her and she looks over at her friend, her friend's like, yeah, okay.

Speaking of which, you still with that Amanda chick?

Jerry is perfect.

And he's like, I think, 19 in this movie or something like that.

Yeah, yeah. She's a hip-hip lady.

You mean record scratches don't actually happen in real life?

No, this movie doesn't exist. I think, yeah, the closest you get recently, and it's not even that recent, is Netflix American Vandal, that TV series they did, or something like Booksmart, you know? But this being as mainstream as it is, having the soundtrack that it does, having the roster of talent that it does, we don't make this anymore. Right.

Yeah, his delivery of Amanda, you know, Amanda. Yeah, well, you're the one. Amanda is going to be embarrassed.

She's like, wow, you really got me there, Mike. Really good. Really good.

I would guess I would say Jenna Elfman Scott Baio monologue is really good it's really really good but yeah all of the Kenny and Denise if that were just one scene that's the most rewatchable scene like him dropping his whole thing him calling her out their history do those shoes serve an orthopedic function like everything that happens in the bathroom is great I agree this will be fun what's the most 1998 thing about this movie

I mean, we already talked about the soundtrack. I would say Smash Mouth very specifically.

The X-Files being so prevalent in here.

Yeah. From this light, you look a bit like David Duchovny is what they say to Charlie Korsmo. Also, one of the nerds claims to be dating Christy Turlington, has a girlfriend from the internet.

She has a photo shoot in Fiji. Everything Seth Green.

And the Brad and Gwyneth thing, which you already mentioned.

Not to a party, but to a rave, yeah. Yeah.

Fashion.

Yeah. And also like snowboarder culture sort of bleeding into fashion.

Oh my God.

What's aged the best? I think this is overall a very like sex positive movie. And I also like that Kenny and Denise's sex is very bad. Like their first time is very bad. I think that's great. I think the Trip McNeely stuff really, really plays. Like really plays. And what I mentioned before about the sort of like the blurring of social circles inside of this party, I really like.

That just feels like a step out of

the 80s like from i don't know porky's revenge of the nerds like all that sort of stuff really felt like stratified or or breakfast club which is which is supposed to be about common bonds but then you get those archetypes you know we are the nerd yeah you know the burnout the popular girl whatever it is and and that's just not how high school i thought growing up watching 80s teens movies i thought that's what high school was and it wasn't what high school was at all you know

And it's like, if you called my name, would you walk on by?

Yeah. Do you have a teen movie that's, like, exactly your micro... Oh, I have all the 80s. But, like, what's, like, your micro-generation, like, exactly right, if you had to pick one 80s teen movie?

And it's filmed. What is that? It's filmed at Torrance High School. Cause we only get like the little, the Amanda intro is really where we're at.

No, but Torrance High is where they filmed Buffy. It's where they filmed She's All That. All of the high school stuff was set at that high school.

All good.

Time is honey. Yeah, it's all good.

Breakfast Club.

Charlie Carson's character being like, I know this song. Some kid I tutored made me listen to it. I know all the words.

The weed brownie on Denise that gets licked off by Eric Balfour.

It's when he's driving.

I got to give it to Yazoo's Only You because Only You has that intro at the beginning that you can play underneath the dialogue and then it hits.

Oh, okay.

I love it.

Let's bring her back.

Well, we were going to do a movie and Mal said we couldn't because it was Amanda. Amanda would crucify you.

It's in Altadena, so.

I saw that it was an Altadena home and I was worried it burned down. I was like, oh. Yeah.

Well, it's Trick McNeely, but in terms of the rest of the cast having names that are just their archetype, there's Ready to Have Sex Girl and there's Ready to Have Sex's Friend is what they're called in the credits.

Well, the 80s teen movies can't be beat, but there's something about 1998 Can't Hardly Wait for a very specific, I think, micro generation, which is my generation, which is... the one between Millennials and Gen X, that Gap Generation, Generation Catalano, whatever, Generation Oregon Trail, whatever you want to call it. This is our teen movie.

Ready to Have Sex Girl? And Ready to Have Sex Girl's Friend, yeah.

I'm Ready to Have Sex Girl, yeah.

Would a cell phone ruin this movie? New category.

Yeah. Like, they talk about this all the time with X-Files. You couldn't do the X-Files with a cell phone because if you had a cell phone, you could take a photo of the weird stuff you see or, you know, that sort of stuff. Yeah. And horror movies. I think all the time about the way in which cell phones and the internet have ruined basic premises for movies is...

And so let's say Amanda has a smartphone in this movie and she picks up the letter. It's from Preston Myers. She's like, look, goes on social media. She's like, goes on his Insta. Who's Preston Myers? Nobody's streaming from this party. Nobody's TikToking from this party. Like nobody's down their phone. They're all sort of like here and having a good time. Yeah.

I would love that.

Yeah. Horror movies and thriller action movies... it's much harder to do those with everyone having a smartphone in their pocket. Diehard? Can you do Diehard the same way if you have a smartphone?

Does Preston even get to meet Jenna Elfman if he has a cell phone? No, he needs that payphone.

Oh, no.

Okay.

Oh, no. This is traumatic for me, though. I love Ethan Edwards.

It's funny because the way that I think people, women of your generation feel about Lloyd Dobler is how I feel about Preston Myers. And Lloyd Dobler is one that I don't really fully... I'm going to try to erase that from my mind. Really, Joanna? Yeah. The red suede jacket, the like, he's going to go study with Kurt Vonnegut for the summer.

Like, this is just such a right down the middle sensitive girl's guy. I knew this would get you. Yeah. Remember how you tried to provoke me on White Lotus last week?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This one got me.

And I have, like, if you asked me, based on my friends in high school, everyone I knew, and how often they quoted this movie, I would have said this was the biggest movie of 1998.

I don't know that this movie has a weak link. Because anyone who's even slightly wobbly, they're gone the next moment.

And I personally think the core cast is kind of perfect. The only one I would say is, because when we get to the casting what-ifs, I don't know if Peter Facinelli is perfect as Mike Dexter. Yeah.

They said they wanted Facinelli because he has, I think the word they use is like a streak of malice to him. And I agree. But I actually kind of wish Mike Dexter were like a little less evil than he is inside of this movie.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Or, like, Spader in Pretty in Pink. Yeah.

Yeah, but like, also has something, you know?

I feel like you need to understand, like Amanda has this whole speech about, I was thinking of Craig Sheffer in Some Kind of Wonderful. Yeah. You need to understand why Amanda was with him for so long. And she gives a speech about that, about how she was nobody or old school. Then Mike latches on and turns her into a somebody. But, like, you think a little. He's just so the worst.

Exactly.

The gay sex trap or the F slur drop.

And it wasn't at all. But like, that was what it felt like at the time.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Very Heathers.

This is before Twitter. This is before we knew what Scott Baio was capable of on Twitter.

Joni loves Chachi. Charles in Charge. Scott Baio meant something before he let us know who he was.

Well, they do now. Interview with the Vampire is back. Vampire-less dad.

Let's come back around. And then Breckenmire calls Donald Faison's character Hootie because he wants to wear a cowboy hat. It's great.

Amber Benson from Buffy Vampire Slayer.

Sean Patrick Thomas.

Something like that. Yeah.

He fucks the watermelon.

Before American Pie happened, Jason Segel fucks the watermelon.

When you know that and you rewatch this movie and you watch Jason Segel just like scooping the watermelon out of the rind, you're like, Jesus Christ.

Yeah. And he said that they also kind of neutered Empire Records as far as he's concerned. And I'm like, I guess there's like suicide attempts in that movie. Like there's stuff in that movie that I'm just like, what was the darker version of Empire Records?

there's two so there's two black characters who are like in the popular clique yeah right uh the aforementioned say the last dance star sean patrick thomas um i don't think brought him up from cruel intentions that's a great one donald fazan is here there's like reminiscing donald fazan all right there's yeah there's a reminiscing guy like remember that time that we did this then the other thing i think if you can count them on one hand though then they're not enough yeah

I think also when you have... Having Kenny and his friends in this movie, it would be great if we had a more substantial black character who was like, what the fuck? Yeah, exactly.

Sarah Rue. Earth Girl. Sheep, all of you? Baa? No? You love it?

Okay.

You're going back to Embry.

That's my sign. This is tough. This is tough for me. That's my sign. So do you like Ethan Embry in like Empire Records or that thing you do? Like have you liked him in other things?

Preston and Amanda should not wind up together at the end of this movie.

Herself. She should Kelly. She should Kelly choose herself. Oh, the Kelly Taylor.

She should choose herself because she gives this whole monologue about how she doesn't like when the opening and everyone knows where they're going to college and everyone's going to a good school, by the way. She knows they know where they're going to college.

That's what they said.

But Amanda's undecided. Yeah. She doesn't know where she's going to school. She doesn't know who she, and that's fine, but she doesn't know who she is. She gives this whole monologue to her creepy cousin about how she doesn't know who she is if she's not Mike Dexter's girlfriend. And then she immediately gets into her, like that day gets into a relationship with Preston.

Choose yourself. Get to know yourself, Amanda.

Watch Runaway Bride and figure out what kind of eggs you like.

Take a hike. Yeah.

Yeah.

I would just do these.

Maybe this is what Mikey Madison should do, post her Oscar win.

On the, like, Preston and Amanda should not have wound up together front, in the original conception of this, Preston winds up with Denise, which, of course, that's the 80s template, right?

But I, you know, Something Kind of Wonderful is one of my favorite movies of all time. And I just think that, like... Denise deserves better than Kenny. And Amanda deserves to, like, figure herself out. And Preston and Denise have this, like, really nice thing. So I'm pro that.

Yeah, and then get back together.

Because that freeze frame on her is so good. She's just like, it's like the end of The Graduate. She's, like, staring off, like, what have I done sort of moment. Yeah.

But making it just slightly tuned to the frequency of 1998. Yeah. But yeah, we're not reinventing the wheel with this movie at all. Except it's a weird bridge between those 80s movies, which were so about... Your social circles, right?

I'm going to watch the director's cut of hard to find.

Anyone order a love burger?

Women agree women love Preston. Men love Jennifer Love Hewitt.

He's coming back to the X-Men. Took him two decades.

Oh, 27 Dresses. He's great in that.

He never misses. Hairspray. He never misses. Marsden never misses.

And like a nice guy.

You can't... Unless you're like Lloyd Dobler, you can't move between social circles in the 80s unless you fall in love with someone and that's your way across to the popular kids or whatever it is. And then after this movie, Into the Odds, when you get movies like 21 Jump Street or Booksmart... The message is less like, hey, you're in a clique and you belong there.

Oh, definitely. She was on – she basically played this Denise character on the show Sybil. Like she played Sybil Shepard's daughter and she was basically doing exactly this down to like the red hair. And so I feel like they just wanted her to do that. She would have been great.

Yeah, Urban Legend.

Yeah. Two weeks notice.

She's in Dune.

Yeah, she's been around. She's in a season of Justified, which is not the best season of Justified, but that's not her fault.

I think they said he looked like too young. He's 15 years old and he just looked like a baby.

Are you a Little Man Tate? I'm not. I loved that movie. And this is a real moment for me. But not only Alicia Witt for Denise, but also Reese Witherspoon and Christina Ricci.

Well, fear.

But she was also doing... She was kind of doing edgy at this time. She did freeway. She was trying to do edge. And so I feel like... I don't know. I understand what you're saying. It's just.

Yeah, she did Fear and Freeway in 96. And then she doesn't have anything in 97. Pleasantville. Overnight Delivery. Pleasantville's 98. Yeah. Overnight Delivery in 98, which is her and Paul Rudd. I don't know if you've seen that.

It is good, but she's doing Edge. She liked to do Edge for a little while, and then she got into Pleasantville and Cruel Intentions and sort of like the good girl thing.

Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Oh, my God.

Yes.

I'm retiring, Craig. I would say Amber Benson from Buffy Vampire Slayer being in here is like a big one for me.

Tara, yeah.

Yeah.

Who went on to play Anya.

Yeah.

She's great on Buffy, though.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, she's amazing.

Yeah. You've got Seth Green, Sarah Michelle Gellar showing up in things, Allison Hannigan in American Pie. Yeah, the WB was just full of it.

Yeah.

And usually when you get to these like big party scenes, super bad or something like that, it's about how we're all just teenagers and friends together figuring it out.

Klepto Kid's a great one.

I think he shows up in American Pie, too.

He's really funny. He steals the gumball machine at the end. Brian Klugman, who plays Stoner Guy, who's not Jason Segel, with the, like, curly hair. Yeah. He's the one who's got the Velma from Scooby-Doo line. Yeah. He's the one who says Preston wears t-shirts sometimes. That's a good one. He says Prestone. Like, I just, I love him. He shows up with a dinosaur throughout the whole movie.

I really like him. All right.

I do have a Preston candidate here. Freddie Prinze Jr.

Because like Freddie, you know, and she's all that. Like he was often cast in the like cool, the popular kid role.

The jock role. But I think he would have really thrived in this sort of like sensitive kid role. I think this would have been a good moment for him. Yeah.

Okay.

Marsden for Mike Dexter?

Marsden for Preston.

You know, and this is just right on the cusp of that when you get –

Or is he too handsome? The thing about Preston is she rejects him when she just thinks he's a rando, and it's only because he wrote that letter.

No one says no to Preston.

No one puts Marston in a corner.

Okay, because he's already stoned. He's ready to fuck a watermelon.

scenes between like the nerd and the jock at the end of the movie where they have this bonding moment like it's not about can I get the popular girl though that is the spite of this movie but it's about we're all about to leave high school and none of this is gonna mean anything anyway once we're gone you know and also I'm stuck in this role that I became in high school and this is basically my last night to break out of it yeah exactly if I don't like where I've been pigeonholed or positioned

This is similar to his role in Freaks and Geeks. I think he really could have done it. All right, so I got you on board. You got me.

Yes. I needed another woman on this podcast. Guys don't get it.

Craig, what do you mean?

That's a great category. I really like it. I just fundamentally disagree with the premise, but I like it as a category going forward. Another casting option.

Because thinking about Ethan Embry, I don't know if he could have gotten away with playing a teenager, but Tom Everett Scott from That Thing You Do, right? Like in the Preston role. He's got that sort of like nerdy, cute sweetness going on. Yeah, that's solid. Okay. Yeah. But that's another one. Tom Everett Scott is another one where I was like, I really thought he was going to be a big deal.

And then he wasn't at all.

Okay.

Mark Wahlberg in his fear era? Yeah, just fear Mark Wahlberg.

I think for this movie to have stuck beyond the micro-generation that it hit, it needed one more person who stayed quite famous forever. to have been in one of the leading roles.

B12 vitamins?

Because, I mean, the interior was a set.

And then the exterior is the Altagena house that is no longer. Fun fact, Breckin Meyer married Debra Kaplan, and they had two kids.

He could have been Kenny, but he was the lead singer of Love Burger.

But Breckin Meyer had just come off of Clueless, and he's got that stoner energy off of Clueless. What about Justin Long?

This exact moment. I don't know that this and Dating Carson Daly, as you pointed out.

I don't know that this movie, like of those three things, I don't know that this movie.

The entrance she gets with the fan on her preposterously enormous hair and the sneaker pips are playing underneath is like an all-timer. Any actor in Hollywood wants that to have happened to them at some point in their career.

I also don't know Twilight that well, but he is a big deal in Twilight.

He's the patriarch of the vampire family.

He's got Twilight money.

Darma and Greg, yeah.

What was the... It was right there. Keeping the Faith? Is that what that's called? The one with Edward Norton?

Yeah.

Okay.

That's a good one. It might be Clueless.

Clueless is like right in the middle, you know what I mean? So, yeah.

American Pie might be $99.

Well, the question about... Yeah, it's $99.

But like the thing, I would say, yes, it spawned sequels. But I think the fact that it spawned sequels then like takes it out of the 90s. Whereas Clueless is just pure.

90s, you know.

He's great in Hook. Run Home Jack.

Yeah.

Superbad is... I love Superbad. I love Booksmart. Dazed and Confused.

Yeah.

Dazed and Confused is like the art house Superbad.

Yes. Smash Mouth, certainly. This is Smash Mouth's movie.

There's like no adults in this movie.

Baby Hanks as Preston Myers?

Yeah.

Yeah, Cruz as Mike Dexter is a really good one. You know who gave me risky business, Tom Cruz, is Korsmo when he's doing Paradise City. There's like this cruziness to him. That's really interesting.

No, wait, as Mike Dexter?

Definitely Spielberg. Spielberg. Can you imagine?

Can't really wait.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I would say Jenna Elfman's Angel Rule. Oh, interesting.

This is a perfect movie. I have no nits to pick. Okay.

Yeah.

This is the thing is like I was more wherewithal. I was reading the negative reviews. which I couldn't wholly disagree with. And they were like, there's no depth to these characters. I'm like, I think some of them have depth, except Amanda, who's just intentionally a blank slate, but then that's just not that interesting. So, yeah.

Yeah, not a single person tries the door.

But she doesn't, I mean, that's, I guess, Sarah Rue's point is, like, you don't know any of us. You know your shitty popular friends.

Absolute iconic Jamie Presley performance in this movie, by the way.

Yeah.

She's great in this.

And so she just hung out with, like, those four dudes and those three girls, and that was it.

And her cousin.

And had no other friends, then, yeah. But that just makes you think poorly of Amanda. Because at least Ione Skye's character in Say Anything had a reason she didn't know anyone, right? It was like she was sheltered and, you know, not homeschooled, but just sort of was on this track and stuff like that.

So when she shows up at the high school party in Say Anything and nobody knows her, but they're all like, we wish we had known you. We wanted to know you.

Yeah, yeah.

Right. This was originally rated R, and they cut a bunch of, like, drug use out.

Things were starting to flip, but... She had had... It wasn't her first time. No.

They like make out a bit, but they don't.

He does have the love kit.

It's unbelievable. In order to make it tamer, and that, I think, neutered it a bit. But there is, like, something then quite sweet about it. Right. Like, the stuff they cut out sounds, like, funny and fun, and we'll get to that. But, like, this is just a very sweet movie at the end of the day. Yeah. Despite all the other things that happened and some of the stuff that is aged.

That's kind of similar to what American Vandal tried to do with their breakdown of what happened one night at a party. But yeah, do it pit style. What is John Wells doing? Why not Can't Hardly Wait?

Yeah.

We could say nobody. I already said Philip Seymour Hoffman in the Jenna Elfman role, but what about Danny Trejo in the Jenna Elfman role? Just in terms of like, not in this, doesn't have to be an angel, but just in terms of like the one adult who wanders in and gives you advice and is Danny Trejo. Dressed like an angel?

Or not, but just like is there talking about Scott Baio or whatever he wants to talk about. Danny Trejo, I think could belongs in this universe.

Yeah, you can.

While Blink-182 plays in the background. What the fuck is going on at this party? You guys are crazy.

I have one.

I have two. Best editing.

Mark Bridges, who's the costume designer who went on to win an Oscar for The Phantom Thread.

I mean, Kenny's goggles, everything Kenny, everything 90s. What the popular girls are wearing, they're like bra and skirt set.

Can't Hardly Wait. Yeah.

And American Pie is cooking.

Great call.

But they might because it would be like, what are these people doing now? And it would be exciting to see them. We don't see Breckenmire that often. Do you know what I mean? It would be fun to see him. Donald Faison is making a lot of telephone commercials and has a podcast.

Maybe. Maybe she's grown in personality. Yeah, yeah.

No.

That or he met someone at his college who actually had a personality.

And when he's like, I'm going to do a summer internship with Kurt Vonnegut. And she's like, great. That's great for you. But he meets someone at his college who has read a Kurt Vonnegut book.

No, it's the Love Burger shirt from the band. Oh, that's a great one. Yeah, yeah.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

That's beautiful.

Here's mine. Always wear shoes in the dorm shower. Okay.

You don't want to get warts. No.

There was a kid in my dorm freshman year who got like something really gnarly happened to his foot in the dorm shower. And I was like, you clearly didn't see Can't Hardly Wait.

If you had, you would have known. You always got to wear shower shoes in the dorm shower.

Super bad. Super bad.

Generational thing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I love it.

The 90s? Did the 90s win the movie? Does it have to be a person?

It can be whatever I want. I would say for the time, in terms of like stock and recognizability out of the movie and all that sort of stuff, might be Seth Green. This was like a big Seth Green moment.

And then he does Robot Chicken.

I can do this. Airborne?

Airborne? Does that not count?

My Stepmother's an Alien?

Have you seen Airborne, though? The rollerblading movie?

Oh. Yeah? Oh. Okay. You should watch Airborne. Young Jack Black's in that movie. Really? Seth Green's in that movie. Lana Ubeck's in that movie. It's about a California surfer bro who moves to Minneapolis or something like that. It's snowing all the time. And... he discovers rollerblading and that's how they all like bond together. The hockey kids and the California kid.

Wow.

She gets Six Feet Under sort of off the back of this.

I think this cemented something for her moment.

But it didn't carry her beyond this.

He's the most quotable. Someone was just like always running around. Yeah. Dropping Kenny. Special K quotes.

I genuinely can't wait because I feel like I know. You can't hardly wait.

Yeah, exactly. And everyone I knew had it on DVD. This was like a huge DVD sale. I have this in my collection movie.

It's this incredible, like, mid-tier of success where, like, I can name check every single person in this movie. But Craig, who just, like, is, you know, like, a decade younger than me or whatever, is just sort of like, that guy, that guy, that guy. Like, they were never a thing.

And also, this is sort of exactly what I expected, Craig, because it's just like, it really is a you-had-to-be-there movie.

You definitely had to be there. And I didn't expect, I was like, Craig's not going to like this at all.

So you want the Mike Dexter, like, burns out of college.

I don't think it thought it was doing anything wrong. I think genuinely, and I don't see that as a negative. I think it was just sort of like, to your point, we have $2 to rub together and we know a bunch of young people are out of work and we want to stake our claim as directors because this writing duo had never directed anything before.

And so they're like, what's the lowest stake thing that we can put together? And it's funny throughout, which it is.

We've got Elijah for like one month.

I genuinely consider this a gift to me. Thank you so much, Bill.

You have to watch it because you have to see Bill's impression of Ethan Embry with your own two eyes.

Yeah.

Microbudget makes over $100 million.

Yeah.

I know. We're living in a bubble. We don't know.

And the WBs coming up.

Yeah, exactly.

Exactly, exactly.

It's perfect. The soundtrack to this movie is insane.

I was talking to a friend of mine in terms of that, that

ramp up that you just mentioned clueless and scream to this i was talking to a friend of mine who's just yeah just like two three years older than me and she's like oh this isn't my movie at all and i was like what's your movie she's like clueless you know and so there's just like right there's the clueless and then there's american pie and this is just like in that weird gap between i think because hollywood was still trying in the late 80s early 90s it's just the movies weren't that good but then like for there's a certain generation kind of between me and you where like adventures and babysitting is their movie

Six weeks.

And that's another, I mean, the movie that is just a teen party, there aren't as many as you would think there are, but they're all interesting to me. And then the One Crazy Night, which Adventures in Babysitting is, but like that One Crazy Night idea is always hits for me. I love that as a concept for a movie.

And you thought I deserved a reward today.

Yes.

You're like the only person who's ever talked about Disturbing Behavior.

Look at it, yeah.

Yeah.

It's an amazing time. What a time to be a teenager in America.

What are we doing with the cast of 7-Eleven?

Kevin Williamson's just running the game between Dawson's and all of the Scream movies and teaching Mrs. Tingle and everything else that comes out.

Because Joshua Jackson is in it, Pacey?

The Dawson's Creek cast is in almost every single one of those movies that you mentioned.

No.

Bailey's in Go.

Yeah, Mean Girls.

And she had just popped. She signed this before she did I Know What You Did Last Summer.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

We didn't have.

Time of your life.

Who's the guy from 90210 who dated Donna, who was the musician?

Who says no? Who says no?

Yeah, Jamie Walters. Is he in Time of Your Life?

Doesn't it sound like that's true?

Yeah, exactly.

Oh, wow. Claire Danes and Jennifer Love Hewitt.

Sabrina, Teenage Witch.

Um, Jennifer Love Hewitt was so big for such a concentrated period of time. There were just Coke commercials that were just Jennifer Love Hewitt. There was hair dye commercials that was just Jennifer Love Hewitt. It was just like, but it was such a flash. And I remember, do you remember, I don't know how much you watched Punk'd. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. movie that we want to do.

And they were trying to sort of freak her out by the premise of it. And at the end, it's one of the saddest punked reveals because she's like, oh, I'm not going to get to be in the cool movie, am I?

Devastated.

Like, didn't feel like a girl's girl to women? Lightning rod.

I would say the reason... Well, I mean... It's very clear what she has. But, like, I would say out of the Party 5 cast, there's, like, Neve Campbell, who's, like, the girl's girl. Like, the girl's, like, Neve Campbell. And there's Jennifer Love Hewitt. Yeah. For the boys.

Hundreds.

Hundreds.

She was very popular back then. She had dozens of boyfriends. Hundreds. Hundreds. Yeah, hundreds. I did not know that. Hundreds. Well, not that I didn't have a reputation myself, because, you know, I was considered, you know, by some to be quite the Casanova myself back at Ponce de Leon.

Right.

No.

Smoking cigs.

I won't be watching before midnight.

Yeah, it was shorter than most TV finales. It was fantastic. Oh, definitely.

You rarely see sub 90 these days. If you see an eight in front of the runtime, it's shocking. I know, it's astonishing.

I'm just going to look it up.

On a plane. Does that bother you that I saw these on a plane? No, I think that's actually perfect. Yeah, you were traveling. You didn't miss that game.

Okay. truly mesmerized by the first one beautiful movie sean mentioned in the first part about the dialogue kind of being that early 20s dorm room philosophizing i completely identified with that um i fell in love with celine who didn't she's very funny um i think the only thing so watching so i i love that entire movie i love that they i i my favorite quality about the movie is that

about both movies really is that they, they don't fully get along always. They don't, they're not, they are a perfect fit, but that's not a literal term. And I think a lot of times when they try to build relationships in movies, the perfect fitter, like you all like the same things and you have the same views about everything and they don't have that.

And it's messy sometimes, but you still know that they are, they should be together, but that doesn't always mean you agree. And so I thought that was really smart writing. Um, I really enjoyed the ending. I was, like you, Bill, hopeful.

I thought they were going to get back together, or at least I wanted to believe that, and you don't want to think about it too much, the possibility that they wouldn't get back together. I also was a little bit annoyed that she liked Ethan Hawke so much at the beginning of the movie, because I think he's not the best hang. He's a little bit...

smarmy and smug and I was almost jealous of Jesse I was just like this fucking guy I'm like he's really getting Celine right now but then I think that's I think it's part of it they kind of soften each other and their differences come together the movie doesn't work if she's not French also she has to have an accent honestly she has to be French I firmly believe that if she was Jennifer Connelly it wouldn't work and then before Sunset

I was terrified, didn't want to watch it, was upset that it even got made. Maybe I'm just burned out from sequels nowadays where I'm just like... Especially the delayed sequel where it's not immediately planned. Yeah, yeah. Where, you know, it's like when they put them together and they come out two years apart and it was like a part of a whole thing, it's fine. But I don't know.

It's like... Dumb and Dumber 2, 20 years later, you're like, God, this is going to suck. I knew obviously these movies were beloved, so whatever. But... Once again, I was, I was beautifully surprised. It was, I liked it. Their perspectives switched in many ways. And again, it was clunky and they took time to warm up to one another once again. Cause at first you're like, I don't know.

32, 33. I think that's too young now. To have like a kid and stuff. Yeah. I think the idea of like you're 32 and your life is over is no longer identifiable for people my age. Yeah. As a 30 year old myself now. I'm just like, they seem like a weathered 32 to me. He's got two kids and a wife. She's had a whole life.

It just feels like nowadays people are getting started so much later that they, in my head, they should be like 37 having this issue, not 32. Yeah.

I think that's accurate.

Yeah. Um... Yeah. I, it, it really feels like it, I can't believe it worked that the sequel came out and I ended it before midnight worked, but it really does feel like you're getting like a, it's kind of suspenseful. It's like, you can't believe that you get these 80 extra minutes with this couple that you have no idea what happened to.

And it's the most captivated I've ever been watching two people talk. It's like, you genuinely are like, I can't miss a word they're going to say.

A good review from Craig. I know where it's headed and I don't want to go there.

I'm happy where I am now with this franchise.

No.

Craig. At least, can I live with this for nine years like everybody else got to? Craig, don't watch it.

You've nailed that every time, by the way, like the phrasing of that, which is very impressive.

These movies are so good. Unbelievably good.

The listening booth is... When I heard you guys say it was the first take... You can tell.

It's good that if this movie were two and a half hours, it would feel... like overindulgent and sequelized. I actually love it.

100%.

Do we think they left on their own accord?

You don't think so?

You think they got fired?

Nick's a fan of runner-ups.

He loves an underdog.

Well, no longer Bennett.

You said, I- I still know two people. Oh. Who's the other person?

Mystery.

Not that big of a deal. Yeah.

It's what Brittany would have done in the Traitors finale.

Yeah. Well, speaking of Bachelor, we had Fantasy Suites episode this week.

Juliana. My girl.

With who? Oh my gosh.

Sorry, the remote start accidentally pressed in my pocket.

Oh, God. I gotta wash my cat.

100%.

Decision tree.

He made it seem like he wasn't having sex. Yeah. You know.

Sie ist sehr beruflich. Sie wusste, was sie in der Leben, sagen wir mal, wollte. Ich denke, von einer sehr frühen Zeit an wusste sie immer, was sie wollte. Ashley wurde gerade in ihrem Job promotiert. Sie war sehr gespannt auf ihre neue Promotion und sie wollte einfach, ich würde sagen, sich einig sein und ein normales Leben haben, um es besser zu sagen, sagen wir mal.

Wie wir von den Fotos und so gesehen haben, hat sie diesen Job in der Ökonomischen Gesundheit genommen. Sie ging durch Binnenschläge und so weiter. Das Job, das sie gemacht hat, war das kleinste Job, das wir je gemacht hätten. Wir hatten eine sehr gute Mutter-Vater-Verhältnis. Wir sprachen täglich auf dem Telefon.

Am meisten morgens trinke ich von ihr und sie trinkt von mir, als wir beide an der Arbeit begonnen haben. Und das ging immer weiter, als der Tag ging. Wir sprachen entweder via Social Media oder wir riefen einander oder wir texteten. Was auch immer es war, die Kommunikation ging immer weiter durch den Tag.

Kennt ihr auch diesen einen Freund, der morgens einfach so ruckzuck aus dem Bett und danach aus dem Grinsen gar nicht mehr rauskommt? Der sogar noch vor dem ersten Kaffee unverschämt gut gelaunt ist und mit der Morgensonne um die Wette strahlt? Furchtbar. Ekelhaft.

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