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Guillaume Verdon

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1026 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#407 โ€“ Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

Right. I think that an overall theme of my company is that we have folks that are, you know, there's a sort of exodus from quantum computing and we're going to broader physics-based AI that is not quantum. So that gives you a hint. So we should say the name of your company is Extropic. Extropic, that's right.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#407 โ€“ Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

And we do physics-based AI primarily based on thermodynamics rather than quantum mechanics. But essentially, a quantum computer is very difficult to build because you have to induce this sort of zero temperature subspace of information. And the way to do that is by encoding information. You encode a code within a code within a code within a code.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#407 โ€“ Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

And we do physics-based AI primarily based on thermodynamics rather than quantum mechanics. But essentially, a quantum computer is very difficult to build because you have to induce this sort of zero temperature subspace of information. And the way to do that is by encoding information. You encode a code within a code within a code within a code.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#407 โ€“ Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

And we do physics-based AI primarily based on thermodynamics rather than quantum mechanics. But essentially, a quantum computer is very difficult to build because you have to induce this sort of zero temperature subspace of information. And the way to do that is by encoding information. You encode a code within a code within a code within a code.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#407 โ€“ Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

And so there's a lot of redundancy needed to do this error correction. But ultimately, it's a sort of algorithmic refrigerator, really. It's just pumping out entropy out of the subsystem that is virtual and delocalized that represents your quote-unquote logical qubits, aka the payload quantum bits in which you actually want to run your quantum mechanical program.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#407 โ€“ Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

And so there's a lot of redundancy needed to do this error correction. But ultimately, it's a sort of algorithmic refrigerator, really. It's just pumping out entropy out of the subsystem that is virtual and delocalized that represents your quote-unquote logical qubits, aka the payload quantum bits in which you actually want to run your quantum mechanical program.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#407 โ€“ Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

And so there's a lot of redundancy needed to do this error correction. But ultimately, it's a sort of algorithmic refrigerator, really. It's just pumping out entropy out of the subsystem that is virtual and delocalized that represents your quote-unquote logical qubits, aka the payload quantum bits in which you actually want to run your quantum mechanical program.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#407 โ€“ Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

It's very difficult because in order to scale up your quantum computer, you need each component to be of sufficient quality for it to be worth it. Because if you try to do this error correction, this quantum error correction process in each quantum bit and your control over them, if it's insufficient, it's not worth scaling up. You're actually adding more errors than you remove.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#407 โ€“ Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

It's very difficult because in order to scale up your quantum computer, you need each component to be of sufficient quality for it to be worth it. Because if you try to do this error correction, this quantum error correction process in each quantum bit and your control over them, if it's insufficient, it's not worth scaling up. You're actually adding more errors than you remove.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#407 โ€“ Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

It's very difficult because in order to scale up your quantum computer, you need each component to be of sufficient quality for it to be worth it. Because if you try to do this error correction, this quantum error correction process in each quantum bit and your control over them, if it's insufficient, it's not worth scaling up. You're actually adding more errors than you remove.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#407 โ€“ Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

And so there's this notion of a threshold where if your quantum bits are of sufficient quality in terms of your control over them, it's actually worth scaling up. And actually, in recent years, people have been crossing the threshold, and it's starting to be worth it. And so it's just a very long slog of engineering.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#407 โ€“ Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

And so there's this notion of a threshold where if your quantum bits are of sufficient quality in terms of your control over them, it's actually worth scaling up. And actually, in recent years, people have been crossing the threshold, and it's starting to be worth it. And so it's just a very long slog of engineering.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#407 โ€“ Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

And so there's this notion of a threshold where if your quantum bits are of sufficient quality in terms of your control over them, it's actually worth scaling up. And actually, in recent years, people have been crossing the threshold, and it's starting to be worth it. And so it's just a very long slog of engineering.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#407 โ€“ Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

But ultimately, it's really crazy to me how much exquisite level of control we have over these systems. It's actually... Quite crazy. And people are crossing, you know, they're achieving milestones. It's just, you know, in general, the media always gets ahead, right, of where the technology is. There's a bit too much hype. It's good for fundraising, but sometimes...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#407 โ€“ Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

But ultimately, it's really crazy to me how much exquisite level of control we have over these systems. It's actually... Quite crazy. And people are crossing, you know, they're achieving milestones. It's just, you know, in general, the media always gets ahead, right, of where the technology is. There's a bit too much hype. It's good for fundraising, but sometimes...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#407 โ€“ Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

But ultimately, it's really crazy to me how much exquisite level of control we have over these systems. It's actually... Quite crazy. And people are crossing, you know, they're achieving milestones. It's just, you know, in general, the media always gets ahead, right, of where the technology is. There's a bit too much hype. It's good for fundraising, but sometimes...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#407 โ€“ Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

you know, it causes winters, right? It's the hype cycle. I'm bullish on quantum computing on a 10, 15 year timescale personally, but I think there's other quests that can be done in the meantime. I think it's in good hands right now.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#407 โ€“ Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

you know, it causes winters, right? It's the hype cycle. I'm bullish on quantum computing on a 10, 15 year timescale personally, but I think there's other quests that can be done in the meantime. I think it's in good hands right now.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#407 โ€“ Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

you know, it causes winters, right? It's the hype cycle. I'm bullish on quantum computing on a 10, 15 year timescale personally, but I think there's other quests that can be done in the meantime. I think it's in good hands right now.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#407 โ€“ Guillaume Verdon: Beff Jezos, E/acc Movement, Physics, Computation & AGI

Yeah, it's a D-state qubit. It's a multidimensional. Multidimensional. Multidimensional. So it's like, can you have a notion of an integer floating point that is quantum mechanical? That's something I've had to think about. I think that research was a precursor to later work on quantum analog digital conversion.