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So I guess people now are worse at doing computation, like doing calculations by hand.

Mental arithmetic.

Yeah, writing very low-level code.

And so maybe we don't need this entry-level training anymore because everyone has now stepped up one level of abstraction because... Right, hardly anyone writes assembly code anymore.

Yeah, if we think about English as the next programming language or as the next prompting language, as the next way of expressing what you want from these models, it's true that we get that's much less precise.

It's much more high level.

It's also much more expressive.

So you can say much more in English than you can in Python, for example.

Is this a potential security issue where what you say in English can be understood in so many different ways that it's difficult to actually produce?

It's difficult for the model to produce the kind of code or the kind of legislation or whatever it is you're trying to achieve.

Actually, on that note, so if you have a system that recommends a decision, say it recommends a decision on what to do in a corporation, now you ask that system to explain why it came to that decision.

Do you think current models are good at explaining their own decision-making or are they sort of confabulating and hallucinating whatever actually led them to that decision?

A big question here, and I guess you get asked this a lot, is there demand for these tools?

Do people actually want to get better at thinking and get better at citing their sources and so on?

We could imagine right now a form of social media that works much better than what we have, where whenever you're making a claim, you're asked to support that claim.

But it seems that people are

interested in playing other games and maybe you're not optimizing for finding truth you're optimizing for what's most interesting what's most engaging and so on yeah is there a demand problem

And how important is trust for that?

It seems like if you don't trust a tool, you might not be inclined to use it.

And depending on where the tool is coming from.