Guy Raz
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
Like what kind of reaction were you getting from people?
All right.
You're getting feedback from people and you're adjusting to it.
But here's the big picture, right?
You're working at REI.
You're waiting tables.
You're making peanut butter in Denver.
And you're demoing it at a farmer's market, at least one, farmers maybe two, on the weekends.
Like that's a grind of a life.
Like you're living off your other jobs.
Okay.
And when you say when the farmer's market ended, just seasonally, it ends.
It ends in November or whatever.
The idea was, and this is a time, 2005, 2006, when you could walk into a Whole Foods.
It's harder now because it's owned by Amazon, but you could walk in and get the store manager and you could get them to put a product in their store at that time.
You could have that conversation.
Did you do that in 2008?
Five or six?
I mean, or not quite yet.
But you can't get into 30 stores if you're not doing well in one store.