Hal Puthoff

Even government people. In fact, I have a great example of that, and that is Edward Teller, father of the H-bomb, involved in the Manhattan Project. You'd think if anybody wanted to keep secrets about national security, it would be him. One of the strongest statements he made, which actually was kind of a driver in my shifting my viewpoint about, well, should we come out with this or not?

He said, you know, In exploring nuclear energy, we had the Manhattan Project, highly classified, but nonetheless, we and the Russians kind of marched along step by step. But in electronics, we didn't classify electronics, you know, circuit boards and all that kind of stuff. And we took off like a rocket and left Russia in the dust.

He said, you know, In exploring nuclear energy, we had the Manhattan Project, highly classified, but nonetheless, we and the Russians kind of marched along step by step. But in electronics, we didn't classify electronics, you know, circuit boards and all that kind of stuff. And we took off like a rocket and left Russia in the dust.

He said, you know, In exploring nuclear energy, we had the Manhattan Project, highly classified, but nonetheless, we and the Russians kind of marched along step by step. But in electronics, we didn't classify electronics, you know, circuit boards and all that kind of stuff. And we took off like a rocket and left Russia in the dust.

So his viewpoint was that having more openness, even in national security areas, is a better bet. And so that made me think, even though I've been part of, as it turns out, decades long highly classified, not for the street, UAP investigations, that sort of affected my thinking about it, and I became more open to the idea that we should do that.

So his viewpoint was that having more openness, even in national security areas, is a better bet. And so that made me think, even though I've been part of, as it turns out, decades long highly classified, not for the street, UAP investigations, that sort of affected my thinking about it, and I became more open to the idea that we should do that.

So his viewpoint was that having more openness, even in national security areas, is a better bet. And so that made me think, even though I've been part of, as it turns out, decades long highly classified, not for the street, UAP investigations, that sort of affected my thinking about it, and I became more open to the idea that we should do that.

But the way I got actually more officially involved was that, as it turns out, in 2008, I think it was, Harry Reid, who was at the time Senate Majority Leader, Daniel Inouye from Hawaii, Ted Stevens from Alaska. They're part of the Gang of Eight, so-called, so they get better briefings than most people on what's going on beyond the scenes. So at that point you might think,

But the way I got actually more officially involved was that, as it turns out, in 2008, I think it was, Harry Reid, who was at the time Senate Majority Leader, Daniel Inouye from Hawaii, Ted Stevens from Alaska. They're part of the Gang of Eight, so-called, so they get better briefings than most people on what's going on beyond the scenes. So at that point you might think,

But the way I got actually more officially involved was that, as it turns out, in 2008, I think it was, Harry Reid, who was at the time Senate Majority Leader, Daniel Inouye from Hawaii, Ted Stevens from Alaska. They're part of the Gang of Eight, so-called, so they get better briefings than most people on what's going on beyond the scenes. So at that point you might think,

Well, UFO stuff, I mean, that's all dead. Let me give you a little background first. And that is, you know, back in the 50s and 60s, we had Project Sign, Project Grudge, Project Blue Book. And then they had the Condon Committee at University of Colorado examine the area and say, he came out with this thing saying, but there's nothing here. It's not worth the Air Force spending any time on it.

Well, UFO stuff, I mean, that's all dead. Let me give you a little background first. And that is, you know, back in the 50s and 60s, we had Project Sign, Project Grudge, Project Blue Book. And then they had the Condon Committee at University of Colorado examine the area and say, he came out with this thing saying, but there's nothing here. It's not worth the Air Force spending any time on it.

Well, UFO stuff, I mean, that's all dead. Let me give you a little background first. And that is, you know, back in the 50s and 60s, we had Project Sign, Project Grudge, Project Blue Book. And then they had the Condon Committee at University of Colorado examine the area and say, he came out with this thing saying, but there's nothing here. It's not worth the Air Force spending any time on it.

Actually, the Condon Report, if you read it, There's a deep report showing all kinds of reasons why this is real. And then there's the foreword, which most media read, in which he said, oh, nothing here. Don't worry about it. So after 1969, which is when that report came out, if you called – Air Force Public Affairs Office said, well, what's going on with UFOs?

Actually, the Condon Report, if you read it, There's a deep report showing all kinds of reasons why this is real. And then there's the foreword, which most media read, in which he said, oh, nothing here. Don't worry about it. So after 1969, which is when that report came out, if you called – Air Force Public Affairs Office said, well, what's going on with UFOs?

Actually, the Condon Report, if you read it, There's a deep report showing all kinds of reasons why this is real. And then there's the foreword, which most media read, in which he said, oh, nothing here. Don't worry about it. So after 1969, which is when that report came out, if you called – Air Force Public Affairs Office said, well, what's going on with UFOs?

Oh, no, no, we give up all that stuff back in 1969. The truth of the matter is that the very memo that canceled Blue Book by General Bollander had down the fine print, but anything that might affect national security, we should keep track of. So now we come up to 2017. These senators who knew that there was still stuff going on decided there should be a new program.

Oh, no, no, we give up all that stuff back in 1969. The truth of the matter is that the very memo that canceled Blue Book by General Bollander had down the fine print, but anything that might affect national security, we should keep track of. So now we come up to 2017. These senators who knew that there was still stuff going on decided there should be a new program.

Oh, no, no, we give up all that stuff back in 1969. The truth of the matter is that the very memo that canceled Blue Book by General Bollander had down the fine print, but anything that might affect national security, we should keep track of. So now we come up to 2017. These senators who knew that there was still stuff going on decided there should be a new program.

And so they asked the top physicists at DIA, Jim Lukatsky, who was one of the top physicists on propulsion and rocketry and so on, to put out a request for a proposal. And so that went out. And so actually Robert Bigelow picked it up. And he said, okay, we'll do this. And so he then got the program. And since I had been involved with Bigelow, he asked me to be part of the program.