Hal Puthoff

Not just the ones in the United States.

Actually, I don't know for sure in terms of data. I mean, we have our best data, of course, on our own retrievals.

Actually, I don't know for sure in terms of data. I mean, we have our best data, of course, on our own retrievals.

Actually, I don't know for sure in terms of data. I mean, we have our best data, of course, on our own retrievals.

More than 10 retrieved in the United States.

More than 10 retrieved in the United States.

More than 10 retrieved in the United States.

Well, we looked into the Bob Lazar story, but only from a certain relatively superficial level. We found out what his clearance levels supposedly were and so on, which came back saying it was not high enough to be doing what he says he was doing. On the other hand, it may just simply be, yeah, it was better than that, but we didn't have the access to see that.

Well, we looked into the Bob Lazar story, but only from a certain relatively superficial level. We found out what his clearance levels supposedly were and so on, which came back saying it was not high enough to be doing what he says he was doing. On the other hand, it may just simply be, yeah, it was better than that, but we didn't have the access to see that.

Well, we looked into the Bob Lazar story, but only from a certain relatively superficial level. We found out what his clearance levels supposedly were and so on, which came back saying it was not high enough to be doing what he says he was doing. On the other hand, it may just simply be, yeah, it was better than that, but we didn't have the access to see that.

So when I hear its physics descriptions, it's a puzzle. It seems... Not exactly as I would anticipate might be the technology behind the craft, but I can't absolutely write them off. So it's an enigma, and I don't have any hard data to prove one way or the other. So I know you've talked to them.

So when I hear its physics descriptions, it's a puzzle. It seems... Not exactly as I would anticipate might be the technology behind the craft, but I can't absolutely write them off. So it's an enigma, and I don't have any hard data to prove one way or the other. So I know you've talked to them.

So when I hear its physics descriptions, it's a puzzle. It seems... Not exactly as I would anticipate might be the technology behind the craft, but I can't absolutely write them off. So it's an enigma, and I don't have any hard data to prove one way or the other. So I know you've talked to them.

It is a fascinating puzzle.

It is a fascinating puzzle.

It is a fascinating puzzle.

So even when people that have high clearances go and say, well, tell me about this. What's behind this? Who knows? If it's a special access program, an SAP, it might be, say, no, we're going to tell you that, you know, he didn't do anything of significance here. In fact, he might have done something of significance. There's just no telling from the outside. Right.

So even when people that have high clearances go and say, well, tell me about this. What's behind this? Who knows? If it's a special access program, an SAP, it might be, say, no, we're going to tell you that, you know, he didn't do anything of significance here. In fact, he might have done something of significance. There's just no telling from the outside. Right.

So even when people that have high clearances go and say, well, tell me about this. What's behind this? Who knows? If it's a special access program, an SAP, it might be, say, no, we're going to tell you that, you know, he didn't do anything of significance here. In fact, he might have done something of significance. There's just no telling from the outside. Right.

Well, there are two aspects. One is, what is the material or mechanisms that generate the effects? Then the other is, are the effects being described reasonable descriptions of the kind of effects you think are associated with such craft? On the Element 115, as you know, in the general scientific community, we've seen Element 115, but it's very short-lived. So it's hard to evaluate that.