Haley Sacks

Why I'm doing this.

Like, how long were you doing that for?

Oh, okay.

That's interesting.

What is value-based spending?

Come on.

A janitor his whole life?

With all the, I mean, I could imagine people in their 20s or 30s right now saying, that sounds nice that he had $8 million when he died, but he didn't live a full life because he didn't spend any of it.

And since I get 5,000 advertisements a day,

And every musical venue and Coachella and whatever travel and trip and adventure that's trying to sell me something right now, I'm going to go live my life to the fullest.

So what do you say to someone in their 20s and 30s who's like, I want to live my life full now and not die with a bunch of money in the bank?

Yeah.

I mean, it seems like a lot of people have shame that they carry around money.

It seems like it.

Why do you think so many people carry shame when they think about money, talk about money, don't talk about money?

And what is the process you have for them with the kind of judgment, free finance conversation you share?

Interesting.

They wanna show like they're more valuable than they are.

When someone shows that they're more valuable than they actually are internally, then what happens with that disconnect?

Yeah.