Hamilton Morris

complexity in all of this. It's a little bit hard where there's a bit of self-deception at play. Maybe they really believe what they're saying, whatever, whatever, whatever. But this is one of the reasons that MDMA was not approved was this group that was in part funded by an executive at USONA, but also funded, actually two executives at USONA, but also funded by a major anti-psychedelic

organization called the Sarlo family foundation. Oh yeah.

organization called the Sarlo family foundation. Oh yeah.

organization called the Sarlo family foundation. Oh yeah.

Yeah. So they, they fund like most of the anti-psychedelic, um,

Yeah. So they, they fund like most of the anti-psychedelic, um,

Yeah. So they, they fund like most of the anti-psychedelic, um,

people at the moment yeah travis was telling me about that family yeah it's a very interesting story actually behind all this shit is fascinating and it's kind of sad to me that no journalists have covered it that a lot of people that even dip a toe in the water get sued i might i hope you know it's it's like you have to be the people that how could they sue you if you dip your toe like just to talk just people talking about it or like they're saying they're being defamed or something

people at the moment yeah travis was telling me about that family yeah it's a very interesting story actually behind all this shit is fascinating and it's kind of sad to me that no journalists have covered it that a lot of people that even dip a toe in the water get sued i might i hope you know it's it's like you have to be the people that how could they sue you if you dip your toe like just to talk just people talking about it or like they're saying they're being defamed or something

people at the moment yeah travis was telling me about that family yeah it's a very interesting story actually behind all this shit is fascinating and it's kind of sad to me that no journalists have covered it that a lot of people that even dip a toe in the water get sued i might i hope you know it's it's like you have to be the people that how could they sue you if you dip your toe like just to talk just people talking about it or like they're saying they're being defamed or something

Yeah, yeah, I mean, you can just legally harass people very easily. Harass people with lawsuits. Yeah, yeah, and they know this. So, yeah, and this is all to say... I saw all this play out, and it was one of the most shocking things I've ever seen. It was mind-blowing. And you can see some of this stuff on YouTube, right?

Yeah, yeah, I mean, you can just legally harass people very easily. Harass people with lawsuits. Yeah, yeah, and they know this. So, yeah, and this is all to say... I saw all this play out, and it was one of the most shocking things I've ever seen. It was mind-blowing. And you can see some of this stuff on YouTube, right?

Yeah, yeah, I mean, you can just legally harass people very easily. Harass people with lawsuits. Yeah, yeah, and they know this. So, yeah, and this is all to say... I saw all this play out, and it was one of the most shocking things I've ever seen. It was mind-blowing. And you can see some of this stuff on YouTube, right?

So if you go to the YouTube MDMA Advisory Committee hearing, you can see some of these people who were being paid by the Sarlo family foundation to run an anti-MDMA campaign lying to the FDA and getting away with it. including the main person was this woman, Nishay Deveno, who was sort of the head of the anti-MDMA campaign.

So if you go to the YouTube MDMA Advisory Committee hearing, you can see some of these people who were being paid by the Sarlo family foundation to run an anti-MDMA campaign lying to the FDA and getting away with it. including the main person was this woman, Nishay Deveno, who was sort of the head of the anti-MDMA campaign.

So if you go to the YouTube MDMA Advisory Committee hearing, you can see some of these people who were being paid by the Sarlo family foundation to run an anti-MDMA campaign lying to the FDA and getting away with it. including the main person was this woman, Nishay Deveno, who was sort of the head of the anti-MDMA campaign.

And she just was firing off bullshit at a rate so fast that no one could even contend. She's saying that MAPS, the company that was developing MDMA as a treatment for PTSD, was a therapy cult company. She was saying that one of the therapists had pinned down a patient while the patient screamed, get your fucking hands off of me.

And she just was firing off bullshit at a rate so fast that no one could even contend. She's saying that MAPS, the company that was developing MDMA as a treatment for PTSD, was a therapy cult company. She was saying that one of the therapists had pinned down a patient while the patient screamed, get your fucking hands off of me.

And she just was firing off bullshit at a rate so fast that no one could even contend. She's saying that MAPS, the company that was developing MDMA as a treatment for PTSD, was a therapy cult company. She was saying that one of the therapists had pinned down a patient while the patient screamed, get your fucking hands off of me.

But this was like a completely decontextualized snippet of a account of a ketamine therapy session that had nothing to do with maps. That was not at all what she described. It was like, the patient was reliving the trauma of having been abused by their father and was speaking to the memory of their father saying, get your fucking hands off of me. So it's that kind of, anyway, this stuff is messy.