Hamish de Bretton Gordon

And without a resolution to that, I don't think we're going to get a resolution to anything.

And, you know, the nuclear thing, to me, is a sideline.

Obviously, he's got that completely focused in his mind and seems unable to look away from it.

But...

I and others don't think that there's any way that they can produce a nuclear weapon, certainly in the next few years.

Yeah, I mean, that seems to be the case.

But again, it is only going to harm the Iranian people.

And actually, earlier on this week, I was with the Kurdish foreign minister, who have a large border with Iran, and of course, the Iranian Kurds as well.

And, you know, they look through a slightly different optic.

They are a sort of area of stability.

And discussing with them and others, it's very difficult to know what could be struck

that would bring the regime or what's left of the regime back to the negotiation table.

Because in the end, he's talking about taking out their power supply and everything else.

Whoever is still running the place, no doubt will not, his lights won't go out.

So it's...

I think it is frustrating.

Maybe this is more sort of dancing around that Trump's doing, you know, hoping in the fact that they will see some sort of reason in Tehran or wherever they are.

But it just, you know, the offer from Iran, I understand, as you've said, is let's sort out the Straits of Hormuz and then go on to something else, which, you know, for everybody except perhaps Trump, that does seem to be a sensible approach.

Well, that's a really good question.

I think we know that Britain and France and some other predominantly European NATO navies have been looking at how they would perhaps patrol the Straits of Hormuz with an appropriate ceasefire because their mines and other things that need to be removed.