Hank Green

I think a lot of people would vote for you, Hank.

It's a compelling personal story.

But here's what I will say.

I won't give you what we should do, but I'll give you the way that I think about it.

Everything in a world of infinite content, everything is about how easy something is to pay attention to.

So how well it captures and holds attention.

That's everything.

And so any way that we can both in our own heads when we're making our own decisions and also when we're making things or when we're talking to people about how they consume stuff, anything we can do to be like, here are the good things that when you feel like those strings are being tugged on, you should go in that direction.

And they are like curiosity and like human interest and cute stuff and like the good ones.

And we can recognize them as being prosocial.

And which one are the antisocial ones?

where it's like, ah, you feel superior to someone else.

You feel like a victim.

You feel like, you know, you're being manipulated by nefarious things.

You're being told that something that everybody thinks is good is actually bad.

And like, oh, you thought vaccines were like one of the most amazing technologies that a physical manifestation of like the love that we have for each other as a species.

No, actually the government's poisoning your children.

Like those are antisocial and they are outrage bait and they are,

you know, like, can we program these platforms to distinguish between those things?

I don't know if we can, because then instead, like, it's wild.