Hank Green

Like it's, it's like, it's like doing, it's like acting out activism in a way that is purely about like whether or not we're getting attention and not at all about whether or not you're changing anything.

And then, and then the other thing I'll say is that like, it's all stories.

Everything is stories.

We're made of stories.

Everything is storytelling.

And and those two ideas are very closely tied to each other.

So what is what is that?

What does that mean?

Like, how do we how do we use that knowledge to do better?

I don't know, but I'm trying to say that.

And that's what and that when I say I'm the chief strategy officer, that's what I mean.

I was going to say, I don't know that I've ever met the chairman of the board of a nonprofit educational foundation that's ever talked quite the way that you talk.

I'm glad it's getting shaken up.

Hank, as always, incredible pleasure talking to you about all this stuff.

I wish you well.

I'm excited for this next turn.

I feel like you're able to let loose in a different way now that you're a nonprofit.

I can feel that it's different.

Yeah, I mean, I probably should let loose a little less.

No, no, no.