Hank Green

Yeah, yeah.

But wild.

And also, part of this is that you work with a lot of improv comedians, and so that's kind of the jam, that's the vibe.

It's like, we're going to play in this space together.

But it does seem like you're able to direct...

The future with the way that you write the shows.

It felt like it could have gone a number of ways that would have been much less satisfying than the way that it went.

Was that an illusion?

Did you create that illusion for me?

Was that like sort of a written thing or could it have gone differently?

Yeah, no, it didn't feel inevitable as a viewer.

All right.

You've ruined that for me now.

I mean, the game feature host I know would absolutely terrorize anybody in any way.

That's part of the character.

Yeah, I guess there was a lot of stuff that you would want to have happen.

Okay, turned out very well.

But back to the thing.

Why do you think that it is less likely and harder to have a creative person at the helm of a media company now than it once was?

Yeah, you do.